What a great question! I plotted the curve in desmos for you so you can see for yourself what it looks like. All I did was plot the (x0,y0) parametric equation from the formulas I derived at 2:00 www.desmos.com/calculator/lbvkjztsmd
@@virtually_passed Fantastic! I think we should call those curves megacycloids, as they seem to describe the trajectory of bouncing balls thrown at earth from deep space :-)
Thanks for this. Most videos on this topic just defined curvature by the formula and as 1/R without showing the connection. This video is the only one that explains why does it work, and not only shows 2 strange definitions with no connection between them
I was trying to do this myself a few months ago (though I only tried for a few hours), I didn't get too far. I believe I tried to find the circle with the lowest area difference when putting it over the curve, and then I tried with the lowest derivative difference - the problem I ran into was I had no idea where to set the bounds of the function when taking the derivative/integral (between which points do I want to minimise the difference in derivative) - but I left it soon after and forgot to ever go back to it.
thanks man, how did you animate the last part where the curve is tangent to the circle? I cant seem to configure how to make the center of the circle move in a why that would ensure tangential interactions.
found it, I make a line perpendicular to the first derivative. Then use the radius to find the center of the circle. I just need to plot the center now, Still dont know how
If the double derivative of y is zero then the radius is infinite. This makes sense intuitively because y''=0 has the solution y=ax+b which is a line. The radius of curvature of a line is +- infinity
Thanks for the feedback: in case you're curious I've made another video proving the same thing in a more intuitive way: th-cam.com/video/vyBkvGnPwJk/w-d-xo.html
Now I wonder what curve the centre of the approximating circles trace out?
What a great question! I plotted the curve in desmos for you so you can see for yourself what it looks like. All I did was plot the (x0,y0) parametric equation from the formulas I derived at 2:00
www.desmos.com/calculator/lbvkjztsmd
@@virtually_passed Fantastic! I think we should call those curves megacycloids, as they seem to describe the trajectory of bouncing balls thrown at earth from deep space :-)
@@Gauteamus Maybe hypercycloids? They seem very similar to hyperbolae to me
@Gauteamus That'd be the so-called evolute, see e.g. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolute
Thank you so much ❤. Amazing explanation
Thanks for this. Most videos on this topic just defined curvature by the formula and as 1/R without showing the connection. This video is the only one that explains why does it work, and not only shows 2 strange definitions with no connection between them
I agree. That was the motivation for making this video :)
Oh my god the music the feel... Everything makes a fresher cry
Wow, I see we make similar videos, but you've been at it for much longer than I have. Keep up the good work :)
dhanyavaad mere bade bhai, bahut hi sundar tarke se apne iss topic ko ujagar kiya "mai apka dilataht se thankwaad krta hu "
Came from your previous video on this glad to come thank you sir for amazing explanation
Great video! I love doing little diff eq curiosities like this
Me too! :)
Brillant. I did not make efforts to deduce this formula in exercises.
wow... this was awesome
Vert interesting. Good job man.
Amazing video!
Thanks so much for the amazing explaination!
Nicely explained 😊
Thanks a lot 😊
Taking differentiation assumes dr/dx=0 but r=radius of curvature and is dependent on how you move on the number line...
Very cleaver derivation, must I say!
Much to learn I sill have!
great video
thanks man it really helps.
Glad to hear it!
Amazing video
Glad you think so!
thanks
I am very much satisfied by this now
beautiful :3
I'm glad you like it :3
great man! helping me with my homework!
Happy to help!
just wow man
Thank you 😊😊👍🏿
You’re welcome 😊
I was trying to do this myself a few months ago (though I only tried for a few hours), I didn't get too far. I believe I tried to find the circle with the lowest area difference when putting it over the curve, and then I tried with the lowest derivative difference - the problem I ran into was I had no idea where to set the bounds of the function when taking the derivative/integral (between which points do I want to minimise the difference in derivative) - but I left it soon after and forgot to ever go back to it.
thanks!
thanks man, how did you animate the last part where the curve is tangent to the circle? I cant seem to configure how to make the center of the circle move in a why that would ensure tangential interactions.
found it, I make a line perpendicular to the first derivative. Then use the radius to find the center of the circle. I just need to plot the center now, Still dont know how
I coded this up for you. Hopefully it helps:
www.desmos.com/calculator/lbvkjztsmd
@@virtually_passed thanks buds
And if y-- = 0? How I can continue?
If the double derivative of y is zero then the radius is infinite. This makes sense intuitively because y''=0 has the solution y=ax+b which is a line. The radius of curvature of a line is +- infinity
what application are you using for the visualization. I would like to do the same for a catenary curve
In this case I used desmos and and some editing in filmora. Nowadays I'd recommend manimCE using python
@@virtually_passed thanks for the feedback
I solved this problem when I first discovered derivatives, 11th grade in highschool
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@@juhanjames2653 jealous
nice
Thanks 🙏
only mathematical proof given
I am surprised that this is not about April Fools
Or is it?
It's not an April fools joke :)
@@virtually_passed yeah I watched it entirely. Good video.
You're pulling rabits out of a hat with no consequential or motivational thought whatsoever. This is robotic, mechanical and unintuitive.
Thanks for the feedback: in case you're curious I've made another video proving the same thing in a more intuitive way: th-cam.com/video/vyBkvGnPwJk/w-d-xo.html
@@virtually_passed Oh, thank you! That's what I meant, Very intuitive, clear and convincing! beatuful, thank you
great video