The oldest Welsh Lullaby: Dinogad's Smock (Pais Dinogad)

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  • @Knappa22
    @Knappa22 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2121

    Pais Dinogad is old... as in seriously old. It probably dates from the 7th century. The most interesting line historically is the one about the father fishing on Rayadyr Derwennyd which means the Waterfall of Derwent. This is Derwentwater in the Lake District of England, and the waterfall is thought to be the Lodore falls nearby. The poem is so old it dates from the period when Old Welsh was spoken throughout the whole of England, before the Anglo-Saxons came.

    • @malcfw9518
      @malcfw9518 9 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      +Knappa22 So, Brythonic then.

    • @malcfw9518
      @malcfw9518 9 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      I've got to agree with you - cool; and although the origin may be Brythonic, the words sung were current Welsh.

    • @nathanarcus8628
      @nathanarcus8628 8 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      +Knappa22 Anglo-Saxons were wide spread through out Mercia, Wessex, Kent etc. by the 7th century though? Though seeing as a lot of Britons just intergrated into the new culture I'm sure this language was still widely spoken across much of the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms

    • @LeinadEvans
      @LeinadEvans 8 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      +Knappa22 A lost culture for the British then

    • @minutescience7817
      @minutescience7817 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Isn't it thought to date from the 6th century?

  • @GwenCrysroxx
    @GwenCrysroxx 11 ปีที่แล้ว +793

    It's quite weird, being a welsh speaker, hearing words that sound similar to modern welsh even though the words are from the seventh century

    • @seniamax
      @seniamax  11 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      How interesting indeed, and were you able to understand something? (apart from the numbers and giff-gaff, that is:) Has the language changed much since? By the way, I've just been to Wales and was confronted with the problem of saying Llanelli. There was no way I could do that, however hard I tried!

    • @chrissyroberts1497
      @chrissyroberts1497 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      LL is putting your tongue on the roof of your mouth...lol I get you.

    • @drychaf
      @drychaf 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      It's easier than people think - just form an 'L' and instead of saying the L, just blow. That's an 'LL'.

    • @chrissyroberts1497
      @chrissyroberts1497 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It seems everything is an LL location where I am , LLay for one.

    • @drychaf
      @drychaf 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      gwych!

  • @gilyat
    @gilyat 7 ปีที่แล้ว +672

    She is counting. Yan tan tethra etc. I live in the Lakes close to Derwentwater and even today some of the old shepherds count this way. Yan Tan Tethera is a sheep-counting rhyme/system traditionally used by shepherds in Northern England and earlier in some other parts of England and the British Isles. Until the Industrial Revolution, the use of traditional number systems was common among shepherds, especially in the dales of the Lake District. The Yan Tan Tethera system was also used for counting stitches in knitting. The words derive from a Brythonic Celtic language.

    • @my2cents2u
      @my2cents2u 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thank you for that!

    • @flossie5432
      @flossie5432 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Jake Thackray wrote a song incorporating this counting system."Molly Metcalfe". on TH-cam (not actually related to him,but the counting system is real.)th-cam.com/video/TiXINuf5nbI/w-d-xo.html

    • @DivyaAgarwalDb105
      @DivyaAgarwalDb105 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      so informative... Thank you

    • @yoyoholck
      @yoyoholck 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      some of the numbers are the exact same as the irish language. it really shows the connection. celtic nations unite

    • @stoneageprude3021
      @stoneageprude3021 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      its a lullaby sung by sheepheards. are they counting sheep?

  • @nigelsheppard625
    @nigelsheppard625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    This is very old. Some of the animals that Dinogad's father hunts are not found in Europe let alone Wales or Cumbria. The only time they could've been in Britain was during the Roman Empire. This song might well have been sung by a Brythonic mother wife to a Roman who'd seen Lion's either as part of a Gladiator show or a managerie in Roman Gaul, Italy or Spain (or either further afield perhaps even Roman Asia or Egypt).

    • @alicequayle4625
      @alicequayle4625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'd guess she hadn't seen lions but people would still talk about them for a while after the romans left, eg they are talked about in the Bible.

    • @guywelsh9589
      @guywelsh9589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Or it could have just been made up for a song. Songs and stories are not historically accurate especially from preliterate societies. Modern rappers perform tracks about shooting people in clubs while shoving bundles of cash up women's arses but it's not necessarily true.

    • @thegreenmage6956
      @thegreenmage6956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      The song clearly mentions the Eurasian Lynx, which we had in Britain, up until the Middle Ages possibly, in Scotland.
      Like wolves, boars and bears, they were a part of this land, but much rarer.

    • @norfolkdragons866
      @norfolkdragons866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Lions were in europe until fairly recently - they probably were exterminated c200BC, which wouldn't be that long ago for whoever invented this song.
      All the other animals are still in Britain today.

    • @basedgod6016
      @basedgod6016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      she never says he has hunted lion, she just likens him to a lion in his hunting ability, all the rest of the animals were very present in the British Isles before Roman occupation began, and lions were known about by people who hadn't seen them (like another commenter mentioned, the bible)

  • @bcchiriac4512
    @bcchiriac4512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    I hope Welsh people preserve their identity and their culture and music. Beautiful tradition. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🤝🇷🇴

    • @AlysIThink101
      @AlysIThink101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why are you showing a romanian flag in this comment?

    • @jackieroberts7895
      @jackieroberts7895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@AlysIThink101 because they are Romanian

    • @romanianspy4277
      @romanianspy4277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      me too 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇷🇴

    • @stevie5100
      @stevie5100 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      We're trying, although westminster are making it hard for us

    • @jackdavid2898
      @jackdavid2898 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wales forever 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 the land of my father's

  • @sophiawilliams1408
    @sophiawilliams1408 8 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    My grandma used to sung it to me when I was a little girl... I truly love this music.

    • @jwon2889
      @jwon2889 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      My grandmother sung this to me aswell ...still brings tears to my eyes to hear this

    • @AnneandEddieMcKechnie
      @AnneandEddieMcKechnie ปีที่แล้ว +4

      so did my Mamgu

  • @imogencarney3421
    @imogencarney3421 5 ปีที่แล้ว +557

    if fairies had a language I imagine it being something like old welsh

    • @alienapple010x5
      @alienapple010x5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      it would be irish gaelic cause fairies are irish

    • @philldavies7940
      @philldavies7940 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@alienapple010x5 I hope you don't go down the the pub and shout that out, may well get black eye. But Leprechauns come from Irish tradition, I think folk tails of fairies are pretty much universal, probably dating back to the earliest humanity, certainty in European tradition. The name itself derives from old French.

    • @alienapple010x5
      @alienapple010x5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@philldavies7940 tuatha de danann are exclusively irish. But I see your point, it is sort of just a general mythos

    • @jacjolly8214
      @jacjolly8214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@alienapple010x5 fairies can be found in many Celtic countries. The tylwyth can be found everywhere in Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

    • @camerakitty8167
      @camerakitty8167 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I imagine faeries would speak the local language, with slang from their places of origin

  • @kellytostada8403
    @kellytostada8403 7 ปีที่แล้ว +591

    As an American, this is the most beautiful language I've ever heard in my life. It sounds like something straight out of a fairy tale.

    • @haitianboym
      @haitianboym 7 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Kelly Tostada I know right!!? I'm American too and people ask me why I'm learning Welsh and I say, well it's one of the most beautiful languages I've heard. They look at me in confusion. I don't get it. Sounds so dreamy.

    • @Castiwr
      @Castiwr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      JRR Tolkien thought so as well and based the Elvish language in Lord of the Rings on Welsh.

    • @scottemanuel-trinca1735
      @scottemanuel-trinca1735 6 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      The entire country is like a fairy tale (incredibly proud of my country. Cymru am byth!!)

    • @kirisuta8496
      @kirisuta8496 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Lol it's weird when you read most fantasy books and they have welsh names like they're all different. When you're welsh you kind of smile and roll your eyes a little haha.

    • @rajeangallagher5043
      @rajeangallagher5043 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Kelly Tostada i concur. A familiar childhood dream.

  • @lumis5896
    @lumis5896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Somehow this makes me want to cry each time I hear it, it's so touching. I can imagine a celtic mother singing it to her child all those centuries ago.

    • @jackryder-sw9rk
      @jackryder-sw9rk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They sing it to their children now.

  • @Gaia_blooooom
    @Gaia_blooooom ปีที่แล้ว +12

    First born Aussie of a welsh, Scottish and Scandinavian heritage here. Super happy to hear this. Some of my family speaks fluent welsh, and my relatives living in wales most certainly do. Between welsh and old Norse I feel amazingly empowered hearing things like this, and heilung and Wardruna. Much love

  • @jackcooper4998
    @jackcooper4998 6 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    As a Cumbrian this really hit me when I heard the “Yan Tan...” from the traditional counting system. I believe the song is set/ mentions Derwent Water which at the time was a (Old) Welsh/ Cumbric spearing area. (Hence CUMBERland)

    • @soledadosraige369
      @soledadosraige369 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I love that she incorporated that into the song. Its told as one might have imagined it being done at the time, as a piece of evening story telling, esp with the spoken parts. the melody, to me, depicts someone creeping through the forest while hunting. ..

  • @BeadsandFlowers
    @BeadsandFlowers 10 ปีที่แล้ว +440

    That... was the most beautiful thing I've ever heard.
    I'm Italian, and I find this language to be so musical. It may only be because it's so different from mine, but I truly believe there is something magical in it.

    • @seniamax
      @seniamax  10 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I agree - it sounds like some magical language of elves to me... and this wonderful music, so simple and yet so beautiful...

    • @ZazzilasArden
      @ZazzilasArden 9 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      +BeadsandFlowers The entire Welsh language is based on song. Every consonant and every syllable are meant to flow into each other seamlessly and musically. That's kind of why the written language looks so crazy.

    • @andikyte9751
      @andikyte9751 9 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      +Arseniy Maximov J.R.R Tolkien thought the same, so he created Elvish Sindarin by using Welsh sounds. ;]

    • @seniamax
      @seniamax  9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +Aja Void Did he actually? That explains it! ))

    • @andikyte9751
      @andikyte9751 9 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Arseniy Maximov Yep. ;] Tolkien spoke fluent welsh because he said it was 'pleasing to his ears' as the words flow so perfectly. Thats why if you listen to someone speaking welsh, and someone speaking sindarin in the movies, they sound extremely similar, infact Tolkien actually borrowed words from welsh and put them in sindarin and gave them a new meaning. ;] Osgiliad for example means oscillation in welsh, but it sounds extremely close to Osgiliath in Gondor, if you add another 'd' onto Osgilliad it becomes Osgiliadd and the 'dd' in welsh sounds the same as 'th' in english.

  • @seniamax
    @seniamax  11 ปีที่แล้ว +380

    He killed fish from his coracle
    Like the lion killing small animals.
    When your father went to the mountains
    He would bring back a roebuck, a boar, a stag,
    A speckled grouse from the mountain,
    And a fish from the Derwennydd falls.
    At whatever your father aimed his spear -
    Be it a boar, a wild cat, or a fox -
    None would escape but that had strong wings.

    • @Candlewick14
      @Candlewick14 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Arseniy Maximov so so beautiful..and I'm a vegetarian!

    • @Sojiebee
      @Sojiebee 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +1

    • @hannahrenay3057
      @hannahrenay3057 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you!!!

    • @soledadosraige369
      @soledadosraige369 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      is this the english translation?

    • @Luke_05
      @Luke_05 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Soledad Osraige yes..

  • @MegazoneMusic23
    @MegazoneMusic23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I think this is such a beautiful , heartfelt Lullaby. I started listening to it because I needed to get an example of Welsh music for a potential movie, and I ended up listeing to the whole thing and forgetting about everything else but the melody. This is such a stunningly serene piece. When the spoken word happens Im captivated
    Im a new fan of traditional Welsh music now

  • @angharad.9743
    @angharad.9743 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I'm Australian but my grandmother was from Wales. Though she died before I was born so I have sadly never had any connection to my Welsh heritage I've never even been to Wales but somehow I feel more Welsh than Australian

    • @alisonanthony1228
      @alisonanthony1228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      "All the water in the Wye cannot wash the Welsh blood out of your body". If you ever come home to Wales, we'll welcome you with open arms.

  • @welshpete12
    @welshpete12 7 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    I'm Welsh , there is something about the Welsh language that lends it's self to music .

    • @evilcommunistpicklerick3175
      @evilcommunistpicklerick3175 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      that's how the language was written

    • @venmis137
      @venmis137 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Well it's not a coincidence that Wales is well known for songs and poetry, the language practically demands it.

    • @eifionjones559
      @eifionjones559 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      it is all to do with the mutations and the way the pitch rises towards the end of a sentence

    • @guywelsh9589
      @guywelsh9589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah me too, could never master Welsh language but I always enjoy listening to songs in Welsh.

    • @arianbyw3819
      @arianbyw3819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's also because most old Welsh stories were not spoken but sung.

  • @jacobforreal5221
    @jacobforreal5221 9 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Oldest song I've ever heard in my life!!!!! Thank you for the upload my ancestors are Welsh.Love this!

    • @rachelmcdonough1506
      @rachelmcdonough1506 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jacob Prince if you wanna hear something even older, look up the Hurrian Hymn!

    • @myth0s307
      @myth0s307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ur ancestors are from wales? cool, do you live in wales or another country? i myself have never even seen any other country than wales before lmao

  • @angelduarte5569
    @angelduarte5569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    wow, amazing language. I´m not white or welsh and this is beyond my culture, yet i love old stuff. As an artist i try to mantain/pass on what my older generation did. I think it´s a pretty solid thing humans do.

    • @ariaxrose1
      @ariaxrose1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Thank you for appreciating my culture

  • @Kate_Alexander_06
    @Kate_Alexander_06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I’m Welsh and Scottish, and it is so beautiful to see so many people appreciating the language here.
    My Welsh lessons in school are incredibly dull, so this is amazing.
    I’m definitely passing this song onto my children (if I have them). Keeping some parts of our culture alive.

  • @quakeranne4116
    @quakeranne4116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I bet this song is the origin of people saying to “count sheep” to go to sleep, since it used the same counting as shepherds.

    • @robertevans8010
      @robertevans8010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      yes you are Correct. my Mam and Magu(grandmother) sang
      it to me when I was littleand now I am103.
      Prynhhawn da.

    • @nicolamastro9250
      @nicolamastro9250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow😲

    • @jakejw4769
      @jakejw4769 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cont gwirion

  • @alunevans380
    @alunevans380 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Welsh people are the most ancient people of the British Isles, Beautiful ancient song.

  • @rebeccamd7903
    @rebeccamd7903 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I now know my fathers Welsh family tree dating back to 300AD & can’t wait to learn the language. I’m an opera singer & learning songs helps my with linguistic inflection & historical significance! Thank you!

    • @kleojacques5494
      @kleojacques5494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Duolingo is a great free app u can learn Welsh on.. I recommend it ✌💗

  • @alganhar1
    @alganhar1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My mother used to sing this to me as a child, her mother to her, and so on. I sung it to both my daughters, unfortunately I do not own a particularly good sense of tune, as my wife would say, my singing is possibly a crime against humanity. Still, my daughters did not seem to mind, at least until they were older!
    Sospan fach and Hela'r Dryw were also staples of my childhood....

  • @DrumToTheBassWoop
    @DrumToTheBassWoop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Moving from Wales to where the old gododdin kingdom use to exist, is quite surreal. I feel like a Welshman returning to the ancient Hen Ogledd. Cymru am byth. :)

  • @virgosupercluster208
    @virgosupercluster208 9 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    This poem is encompassed in a body of work attributed to the bard Aneirin who was the court bard the Gododdin. The British Gododdin tribe's land was located where Lothian is in Scotland today and Dun Eidyn (today's Edinbrugh) was it's capital. I can recommend to anyone interested in the history of this period to read, 'The Men of the North' by Tim Clarkson.

    • @rhisiartmorgan3997
      @rhisiartmorgan3997 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Brythonig you mean British is an English construct.

    • @rajeangallagher5043
      @rajeangallagher5043 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Virgo supercluster thank you.

    • @taffyducks544
      @taffyducks544 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Marc Delaney yeah, Wallace was Norman for Welshman. Implying he was most likely of Welsh or maybe even Cumbrian descent.

    • @tannhasuervonhohenstein3728
      @tannhasuervonhohenstein3728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rhisiartmorgan3997 British is not an English construct.
      Britain was England, Wales and Scotland. The term British can refer to the Brythonic peoples before the Romans arrived.

    • @tannhasuervonhohenstein3728
      @tannhasuervonhohenstein3728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also you're slightly wrong, Gododdin also likely had Bryneich (Bernicia) (Northumberland today) inside of its borders before the Angles arrived.

  • @chrism3910
    @chrism3910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It's crazy to.think somewhere down my family line this was sung to them by their mothers. It speaks to my soul.

  • @bradleylloyd3872
    @bradleylloyd3872 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Proud Welshman listening to this beautiful piece of history..

    • @HoIIandC
      @HoIIandC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Celtic Revival / Adfywiad Celtaidd I don't know if you'll see this but could you tell me if my surname is Welsh? It's Hoyle. Different sources say its origins are Welsh, others say Northern English.

    • @philldavies7940
      @philldavies7940 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HoIIandC I live in South Wales, never heard of anybody with the surname Hoyle around here. It seems to derive from Northern England (eg Lindsay Hoyle the new speaker of the house of Commons) an anglo-saxon name for a hole or hollow. But you can be guaranteed to have welsh and Irish, Scottish, English, German, French etc blood if you're from Europe, every generation the number of your forefathers doubles, if you go back 1000 years (~50 generations) you theoretically have more than a thousand trillion predecessors (which is impossible): geneticists reckon every Caucasian European is related to a woman who lived in Germany in the 14th century.

  • @franjocorazon260
    @franjocorazon260 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wie schön das klingt. Obwohl ich kein Walisisch spreche hab ich das Gefühl, dass mich diese Musik und ihre Sprache trägt und mein Herz mehr berührt, als alles andere.
    Waliser gebt acht auf Eure wunderschöne Sprache und Euer wunderschönes Land.

  • @jenjenneration
    @jenjenneration 7 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    If you listen closely the chorus is counting up and down
    Un (een)
    Dwy (die)
    Tri (treem)
    Pedwar (pehd- wah)
    Pump (Peemp)
    Chwe (Wesch)
    Saith (s-eye-th)
    Wyth (oyth)

    • @robkenyon8786
      @robkenyon8786 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Un - Een.
      Dwy - Doo-ee.
      Tri - Tree
      Pedwar - Pedwar
      Pump - Pimp.
      Chwech - Chwech ( accent over 'e', no English approximate)
      Saith - Saeeth
      Wyth - Ooeeth
      Naw - NAhw (Not Noh-oo)
      Deg- Dehg.
      One letter one sound. And in Welsh the stress is more often on the first syllable, unlike English.

    • @LadypilotOlsonHilary
      @LadypilotOlsonHilary 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jenny Maridowe I have always tried to keep my Welsh language and when I listened to this song through tears I sang along

    • @guywelsh9589
      @guywelsh9589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I speak hardly any Welsh and even I caught the numbers :-)

    • @nataliyakravchenko4994
      @nataliyakravchenko4994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am not a Welsh speaking person. Even English is not my native language. But I understood this part too. Names of numbers have common roots in indoeuropean languages. It was interesting.

    • @teiloturner2760
      @teiloturner2760 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@nataliyakravchenko4994 :)

  • @GeorgiaGeorgette
    @GeorgiaGeorgette 6 ปีที่แล้ว +532

    EDIT
    Wow, thanks to all the people who ruined this(!)
    My son is named Seren in honour of my beloved Welsh Nanny. He is one month old today. He has been crying for hours and nothing we did stopped his wails. I had played different songs but none soothed him. The moment he heard this he immediately went quiet to hear it. Directly after it finished he gave a contended sigh. A minute later he seemed as though he was becoming restless again so I put it on a second time and he is now sleeping.
    Thank you 💖

    • @GeorgiaGeorgette
      @GeorgiaGeorgette 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @Owen Cradoc
      I can't thank you enough for your beautiful comment. It brought tears to my eyes.

    • @erikaannabosnyak9307
      @erikaannabosnyak9307 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      He carries the ancestors DNA and his name probably strengthen this heritage.

    • @larissastevenson3720
      @larissastevenson3720 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That is such a kind comment!!! God bless you and your son!!!!

    • @doc6904
      @doc6904 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Serena is a feminine name, definitely an interesting choice either way
      Edit Seren*

    • @guzimAntonova
      @guzimAntonova 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Mate seren is feminine here in Wales

  • @gwynwilliams4222
    @gwynwilliams4222 9 ปีที่แล้ว +395

    this is the lanuage that king Arthur and merlin and St Patrick spoke old welsh

    • @minutescience7817
      @minutescience7817 8 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      They spoke Late British, the ancestor to Old Welsh (and Cumbric, Cornish and Breton).

    • @randalphmiller82
      @randalphmiller82 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      king Arthur never existed. the story of King Arthur was the retelling of the biblical king David.

    • @gwynwilliams4222
      @gwynwilliams4222 8 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      No you are thinking about micky mouse he didn't exist

    • @HeatherDeweyPettet
      @HeatherDeweyPettet 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Actually, some scholars say the origin of the King Arthur story is some of the oldest mythology in the world, possibly from much further back, like 20 thousand years ago. Not approximately two thousand or three thousand.

    • @minutescience7817
      @minutescience7817 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Heather Dewey Pettet
      Nonsense. The first mention of Arthur is the seventh century.

  • @siontaliesin5213
    @siontaliesin5213 7 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I’m so proud to be welsh this makes me so happy

    • @eifionjones559
      @eifionjones559 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yfi hefyd

    • @rhodrillewelynpianto5347
      @rhodrillewelynpianto5347 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wi’n Cymrô yn unig🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

    • @teiloturner2760
      @teiloturner2760 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@rhodrillewelynpianto5347 di ni dy enw genedigol?

  • @lydiamorgan3860
    @lydiamorgan3860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have always wondered about my welsh heritage, my grandfather never talked much about it. I would like to visit someday, find out where my bloodline originated.

    • @towy-fisher
      @towy-fisher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lydia, you would be welcomed as a returning Sister. Hwyl Fawr.

    • @MrSpock..
      @MrSpock.. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is going to sound quite odd, but we have the same last name (and first initial) and both have grandfathers with welsh heritage! How coincidental :)

  • @cathblackfeather3084
    @cathblackfeather3084 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Lynne has such a talent for hearing the tune of these ancient songs - they always feel just right :)

  • @rogerdavies8586
    @rogerdavies8586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It sounds just about identical to modern Welsh. There's also a mountain in the area called Pen-y-ghent which sounds Welsh as does another local mountain, Helvellyn. I have heard there was a Celtic language spoken there as late as the time of William the Conqueror but can't confirm it. It is more like Welsh than Gaelic because it was home grown in Britain. Gaelic came from Ireland
    Marianee

    • @DrumToTheBassWoop
      @DrumToTheBassWoop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Anything with Pen, Aber, Llw, is heavily influenced from Brythonic place names. For example Pen, is top or head. So ‘Pen Y Fan’, is the highest peak in Brecon Beacons, translates to “Head/Top of There”.

    • @joshroberts2008
      @joshroberts2008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Welsh name for Lancashire is Caerhirfryn which translates as fort long hill, which refers to Pendle Hill( ,of hanging witch fame), which is a long hill which had a fort on it! Practical description eh?

    • @rogerdavies8586
      @rogerdavies8586 ปีที่แล้ว

      The comment is by my partner. But I agree! :)

  • @larissastevenson3720
    @larissastevenson3720 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just stunning!! I love old lullaby's like these, also this takes me back, as my mother used to sing this to me when I was little!!!

  • @jordanclark67
    @jordanclark67 9 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    this is so beautiful it made me tear up

  • @LEONINMusic
    @LEONINMusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    It talks to the soul

  • @izumikosuzuhara8651
    @izumikosuzuhara8651 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This is really beautiful. It's so full of emotions. I love it.

  • @oswaldthree
    @oswaldthree 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This has been one of my all-time favourites, since discovering it on YT some years ago - I never tire of listening to it!!
    If only I was able to sing along sometimes, but my Aussie mouth just won't mould into the right shapes, LoL!! ..... sigh ..... RjB

    • @jesseh.5223
      @jesseh.5223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too, respect to you from the states

  • @patois12
    @patois12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I'm American with Welsh and Irish ancestry and I believe that Welsh is the most beautiful of the British Isles music and language. It evokes absolutely fairytale magic and I could listen to it forever 💖

  • @cristinaisac7959
    @cristinaisac7959 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I absolutely love it!!

  • @alphalunamare
    @alphalunamare 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Not sure I know this song .. .but when I shut my eyes and go again with its words that appear from the mists in my mind ... I remember understanding.

    • @jesseh.5223
      @jesseh.5223 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's been two years but I feel the same way

  • @kcarter0265
    @kcarter0265 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My son loves this song, he’s only 10 months old. He reacts very well to the welsh language, and I feel that’s because we descend from the Bleddyn welsh lineage. I, myself am learning to speak welsh so I can converse natively when we finally travel to Wales.

    • @bleddynwolf8463
      @bleddynwolf8463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ty'n cael llawer o gwaith o flain ty, ond fy'n gwybod bydd ty gallu neid e.

    • @briton3851
      @briton3851 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the real royal blood

    • @kcarter0265
      @kcarter0265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@briton3851 what do you mean by the “real” royal blood?

  • @seniamax
    @seniamax  12 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks for your comment! To my mind, it's AMAZINGLY beautiful - it immediately struck me as one of the most touching lullabies ever.

  • @Lady_Barbara
    @Lady_Barbara 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Absolutely beautiful - thank you for sharing this treasure!

  • @melantha4331
    @melantha4331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    [Modern Welsh]
    Pais Dinogad, fraith, fraith,
    o grwyn balaod ban wraith.
    Chwid! Chwid! Chwidogaith.
    Gochanwn, gochenyn - wythgaith.
    Pais Dinogad, fraith, fraith,
    o grwyn balaod ban wraith.
    Chwid! Chwid! Chwidogaith.
    Gochanwn, gochenyn - saithgaith.
    Pais Dinogad, fraith, fraith,
    o grwyn balaod ban wraith.
    Chwid! Chwid! Chwidogaith.
    Gochanwn, gochenyn - chwechgaith.
    Pais Dinogad, fraith, fraith,
    o grwyn balaod ban wraith.
    Chwid! Chwid! Chwidogaith.
    Gochanwn, gochenyn - pimpgaith.
    Un, dau, tri, pedwar, pump, chwech, saith, wyth…1
    Pais Dinogad, fraith, fraith,
    o grwyn balaod ban wraith.
    Chwid! Chwid! Chwidogaith.
    Gochanwn, gochenyn - tairgaith.2
    Pais Dinogad, fraith, fraith,
    o grwyn balaod ban wraith.
    Chwid! Chwid! Chwidogaith.
    Gochanwn, gochenyn - dwygaith.3
    Yan, tan, tether, pedder, pimp, sether, hither, hother…4
    Pais Dinogad, fraith, fraith,
    o grwyn balaod ban wraith.
    Chwid! Chwid! Chwidogaith.
    Gochanwn, gochenyn - ungaith.
    [Old Welsh]
    Pan elei dy dat ty e helya;
    llath ar y ysgwyd llory eny law -
    ef gelwi gwn gogyhwc.
    Giff, gaff! Dhaly, dhaly! Dhwg, dhwg!
    ef lledi bysc yng corwc
    mal ban llad. llew llywywg!
    Pan elei dy dat ty e vynyd
    dydygai ef penn ywrch, penn gwythwch, pen hyd,
    penn grugyar vreith o venyd,
    penn pysc o rayadyr Derwennyd.
    Or sawl yt gyrhaedei dy dat ty ae gicwein -
    o wythwch, a llewyn, a llwyuein -
    nyt anghei oll ny uei oradein.
    [Modern Welsh]
    Pais Dinogad, fraith, fraith,
    o grwyn balaod ban wraith.
    Chwid! Chwid! Chwidogaith.
    Gochanwn, gochenyn - wythgaith.
    Pais Dinogad, fraith, fraith,
    o grwyn balaod ban wraith.
    Chwid! Chwid! Chwidogaith.
    Gochanwn, gochenyn - saithgaith.
    Pais Dinogad, fraith, fraith,
    o grwyn balaod ban wraith.
    Chwid! Chwid! Chwidogaith.
    Gochanwn, gochenyn - chwechgaith.
    Pais Dinogad, fraith, fraith,
    o grwyn balaod ban wraith.
    Chwid! Chwid! Chwidogaith.
    Gochanwn, gochenyn - pimpgaith.
    Un, dau, tri, pedwar, pump, chwech, saith, wyth…

  • @ratfrog
    @ratfrog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is my first time listening to this but it sounds like something I've heard in my dreams

  • @parsifalvonvaterland8510
    @parsifalvonvaterland8510 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Beautiful. It gave me goosebumps. It’s got to be genetic and a spiritual connection to my ancestors

    • @venmis137
      @venmis137 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @CAVKING19DELTA TEXAS It's in the lake district in England if you ever want to go, near keswick.

    • @Ewochable
      @Ewochable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Parsifal Von Vaterland nope, Got Them too and have no connection 2 Them bro

  • @adahannamusic
    @adahannamusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I learned this tune while walking the walls of Harlech; unforgettable.

  • @janetta98
    @janetta98 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The counting from 1-8, at least, is the same as today. Marvelous lullaby.

    • @rachaelstanley7986
      @rachaelstanley7986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's modern Welsh based on the original lyrics.

    • @kis4659
      @kis4659 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The song is Cumbric, some parts of the language still live on in Cumbria and other parts of the Northwest today, though close to dying out completely in the next few decades. For example counting system is still used by some. Yan, Tan Tethra, Methra Pimp.

  • @Green-bj1zx
    @Green-bj1zx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    From Spain a very sweet sound for my baby.
    This song does works to make her sleep...

  • @justushall9634
    @justushall9634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Notice how they count "Yan, tan, tether..." starting at 2:13? British sheep-counting, "yan tan...", still used in parts of Britain. From Cumbric, a Brythonic (or Brittonic) Celtic language once spoken in northern England and southern Scotland (Hen Ogledd [the Old North] / Kingdom of Strathclyde); unattested but known via indirect evidence such as this sheep-counting. Cumbric died out ~1100-1300. Extant Brythonic languages: Welsh, Cornish, Breton. The name Cumbric is reflected in Cumberland / Cumbria / Cymru (Welsh name for Wales) / Cambrian (after Cambria, poetic and Latin name for Wales).
    Other lost Brythonic language besides Cumbric: Pictish.

    • @peterforden5917
      @peterforden5917 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well done for pointing this out, ofcourse scots will call you a racist but as the Book says The truth will find you out, it might take a while though!

  • @Worldsbestcupofcoffee
    @Worldsbestcupofcoffee 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is so beautiful. Surreal.

  • @cliffhendon7668
    @cliffhendon7668 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I count myself to be Welsh because my dad wes born in Wales and my Great Grand Mother was made to wear the WelshNot. I don't speak Welsh but more of it seems to be coming up from my childhood memory. I love the music and the sound of Welsh and feel robbed that I have the WelshNot.

    • @kleojacques5494
      @kleojacques5494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I recommend Duolingo, a free app u can download. Its fun easy learning. ✌💗

  • @richardcarlyon241
    @richardcarlyon241 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    The original words are to be found in The Myvrian Archaiology (sic) of Wales, Vol 1, page 19, beginning on the left column on line 5. The work was first printed in 1801, my copy is the printing of 1870, a 'print on demand' copy off the volume held by Harvard. Anyone may obtain a copy through a good bookseller, just ask. If you fail try Queens Park Bookshop in London NW6. Words are in 'Gododin', 'The North', a poem dealing with a conflict at Catterick.It is subtitled 'Aneurin Gwawdrydd a'i Cant.'

    • @philldavies7940
      @philldavies7940 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I saw a documentary a while back, somebody had scribbled the lullaby in the margins of the Gododdin (the circa 7th century Welsh poem) , they were probably bored, distracted and doodling whilst having to recite the Gododdin. Thank goodness as otherwise it would have been lost to history.

  • @facilityhues
    @facilityhues ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does anyone know where the artwork from 2:20 is from? It's beautiful and I would love to look for more pieces in the style

  • @rateeightx
    @rateeightx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I Originally Heard This Song From History With Hilbert's Channel, And I Immediately Had To Listen To The Full Song (As Soon As His Video Was Over, Of Course!), And This Song Is Just​ Beautiful! I May ​​Not Speak Enough Welsh Yet To Understand Most Of It, But It's Still Probably My Favourite Song Not From The 20th Century.

  • @dianemickelson4384
    @dianemickelson4384 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is so beautiful and awesome. Trying to listen to music and such of my Welsh ancestors

  • @eifionwynwilliams-iffy1288
    @eifionwynwilliams-iffy1288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Staggeringly old, and staggeringly beautiful.....ah, hiraeth.

    • @kokobwild2413
      @kokobwild2413 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ......just like Angela Rippon.

  • @Emily-oz5cz
    @Emily-oz5cz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I heard about this ancient form sang oldest verse as from the beginning creation storyline as eves stoneaged Stonehenge lullaby

  • @DivyaAgarwalDb105
    @DivyaAgarwalDb105 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Even without understanding the essence word to word, you can still sort of figure out that it's something empowering, I feel..

  • @Dyadactic
    @Dyadactic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Really good quality recording, considering it being 7th century.

    • @bonzey1171
      @bonzey1171 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jocelyncooper1738
    @jocelyncooper1738 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Celtic languages are very musical

  • @shadow_hillsgrandma8224
    @shadow_hillsgrandma8224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gorgeous. So old that mama sings about daddy hunting!

  • @DesertWolfSurvival
    @DesertWolfSurvival 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Something stirs within me. Like the sweet kiss of a rightful mother to a lost child. 🔥❤️🔥

  • @iestynfoster6138
    @iestynfoster6138 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is so beautiful!

  • @zqxzqxzqx1
    @zqxzqxzqx1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wish I could save this to my favorites!

  • @rhisiartmorgan3997
    @rhisiartmorgan3997 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Y Gododdin. was 300 verses written by Aneurin who was at the battle the battle of Cattraeth in the 6th century. Some say he was not allowed to carry weapons so there for did not fight. Others think he fought by the side of he 300 men that went to fight the Saxons. Some Welsh sauces also say that Taliesin was with him. The most famous reference was at the end of the poem he wrote 'He fed the heads of is enemies to black ravens on the rampart of a fortress
    Though he was no Arthur

  • @abrahemsamander3967
    @abrahemsamander3967 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m 55 seconds in and it’s already so beautiful!

  • @chezlover21
    @chezlover21 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very beautiful.. Thank you for uploading

  • @elizabethlyons1066
    @elizabethlyons1066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    < of Welsh descent and in love with this!

  • @elisopantskhava2425
    @elisopantskhava2425 9 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    So beautiful

  • @karenrendell7369
    @karenrendell7369 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautiful song in a beautiful language, Cymru am Blythe!

  • @mizi_ivy
    @mizi_ivy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    não sei como ou quando eu achei essa música, só sei que ela trás um ar de mistério, amor e solidão que é de outro mundo

  • @dianavirginiairiarte9979
    @dianavirginiairiarte9979 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bella y mágica.

  • @brandydinsmore8214
    @brandydinsmore8214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the cello in this.

  • @miguelvictorkovacevich3843
    @miguelvictorkovacevich3843 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Federico García Lorca said that real folk music should be searched in lullabies. Guess he was right! Greetings from Argentina

  • @13rinslet
    @13rinslet 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The song is so beautiful. If I haven't read the the translation, I would think this was a spell for blessing or something.

    • @rachaelstanley7986
      @rachaelstanley7986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty much spot on - a spell to make children sleep!

  • @marquisdehoto1638
    @marquisdehoto1638 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It has something incredible soothing

  • @yuinurahilyon5711
    @yuinurahilyon5711 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wonderful it gives a unique feeling.

  • @jacobforreal5221
    @jacobforreal5221 9 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Wow my ancestors are Welsh and this is quite awesome to hear,not to mention it's from the 7th century OMG

    • @LucyGem98
      @LucyGem98 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Owain Glyndwr* good attempt though

    • @philldavies7940
      @philldavies7940 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @C Croft Was he related to the last true Prince of Wales and Wales greatest hero, Owain Glyndwr?
      He must have been well over 500 years old when he had your father.

  • @ジョンシナ420
    @ジョンシナ420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you wanna put that song into historical context, it's in the same date range as the legend of king Arthur and his roundtable. It's old as fuck.

  • @MarkHusey
    @MarkHusey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sublime: what a blessing.

  • @loganwynn2337
    @loganwynn2337 8 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    unfortunately, I do not come from a family that practices the traditions of our ancestors; of course, given that my most recent immigrant ancestor came when Prussia was still a country, it's not that surprising. But I LOVE everything that I've learned so far about my family and through it Wales! My wish is to one day visit the land of my ancestors, the Gwynedd's, and to visit the grave the Kings of Gwynedd. gorffwys mewn heddwch, fy Nhadau

  • @ChelseaH1
    @ChelseaH1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    So fascinating.

  • @seniamax
    @seniamax  11 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Dinogad's shift is speckled, speckled,
    It was made from the pelts of martens.
    `Wee! Wee!' Whistling.
    We call, they call, the eight in chains.
    When your father went out to hunt -
    A spear on his shoulder, a club in his hand -
    He called on his lively dogs,
    `Giff! Gaff! Take, take! Fetch, fetch!'

    • @glynnisthomas9165
      @glynnisthomas9165 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for translating. Even without knowing the language I was mesmerized, but now I am enthralled!!!

    • @bradleylloyd3872
      @bradleylloyd3872 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Diolch

  • @juliagresham400
    @juliagresham400 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is gorgeous.

  • @irishelk3
    @irishelk3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is what you hear when you fall down a rabbit hole.

  • @FelixHelixihare
    @FelixHelixihare 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have no idea what I'm listening. I can't follow it but it's very beautiful.

  • @lautarosolis208
    @lautarosolis208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Dwi'n byw yn Yr Ariannin, dwi'n 18 oedd a dwi wedi dechrau dysgu Cymraeg yn 2020.
    Anyway, great song, greetings for all from Argentina 🇦🇷

    • @odonkor989
      @odonkor989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Greetings from Germany to Argentina 💙🤍

    • @DesertWolfSurvival
      @DesertWolfSurvival 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ❤️

    • @evilcommunistpicklerick3175
      @evilcommunistpicklerick3175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cyfarchiadau!
      Diweddariad am 2022?

    • @lautarosolis208
      @lautarosolis208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@evilcommunistpicklerick3175 shwmae! dwi ddim wedi dysgu llawer yn diweddar... dwi ddim wedi cyrraed cyflawniad pwsig (am dysgu cymreag)
      dwi'n caru ieithoedd, dwin licio dysgu a dwi'n licio Cymreag, dwi'n dal yn cofio llawer o Gymreag hahahha gwna i ddychwelyd, dwi'n gwybod
      gobeithio dy fod di yn iawn

    • @evilcommunistpicklerick3175
      @evilcommunistpicklerick3175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lautarosolis208 Dawch! Diolch yn fawr iawn, gobeithio eich bod chi'n iawn hefyd! Mae eich Cymraeg chi yn hynod o dda yn barod, mae'n edrych fel bod dawn gennych chi am ieithoedd

  • @paulsoncain6615
    @paulsoncain6615 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The feeling i get from listening to this is the same as the feeling I got when I was six years old and saw The Last Unicorn for the first time. Anyone else?

  • @bloodandroses_jpg
    @bloodandroses_jpg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I’m not even joking, I heard the intro and felt like I knew this. I have welsh and Cherokee ancestry but when she started humming I hummed along with her and instinctively knew all the notes. I feel like I’m crazy

    • @jesseh.5223
      @jesseh.5223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've felt that with some 20s songs before. Idk genetic memory or someth. But youre not alone

  • @bardofely
    @bardofely 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have just discovered this and agree with everyone else who has said how beautiful it is!

  • @dasglasperlenspiel10
    @dasglasperlenspiel10 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very beautiful!

  • @jiminsbeautifulbratzdollli6916
    @jiminsbeautifulbratzdollli6916 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of my favourites! :)

  • @northernpianomusic
    @northernpianomusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is beautiful. Amazing.

  • @cpegg5840
    @cpegg5840 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To put the age of this song in perspective; Islam was in its infancy, The Iberian peninsula existed as the Visigothic Kingdom; Gregory the Great was a Pope in this century; The Christian Church had not yet had a schism and existed as one church; and Zoroastrianism was still one of the world's most prominent religions, to name just a few examples..

  • @zoejeffery3149
    @zoejeffery3149 7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I am welsh and so singing this to my sister

  • @ShyNarration
    @ShyNarration 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wish the Welsh lyrics were on the screen. I'd love to learn how to sing this song, and that would be helpful. Considering I don't know how to pronounce a thing just by looking.