Besson Sovereign BE955 Review | Compensating 3v Baritone
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ม.ค. 2025
- For today's delight and enjoyment, I present a review of the Besson Sovereign BE955 3v compensating baritone.
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You should make a Video comparing Student grade instruments and other higher grade instruments
"Good evening ladies and gent... Who am I kidding? Good evening Gentlemen"
Well, I WAS going to send some of Trent's videos to my former-oboeist mom, but...
I probably still will.
@Helios5868 While reading, my brain autocorrected to "former obese mom". Sorry.
Same, I had to read it 4 times to realize she play oboe, not a massive belly bass drum
How sexist was that?! Holy moley!!!!
@@mambojazz1 He did mean it as a joke. it is not a very clear or good joke but he does tend to make these risky jokes.
Yes I am a lady (she says) and a dang fine baritone player. My first true love❤️ Started on Baritone and graduated to Euphonium. Started at 14 and still playing 48 years later. Man am I old🙄
Ladies are here too, I'm playing the euphonium. Great review man! I love your channel and especially the livestreams
Trent you absolute legend never give up your craft
Another one of your videos to make my day, Trent! Love your content.
I’d add one more bugaboo about the 955 - it’s 2/3 valve combination is around 40 cents flat, requiring significant embouchure compensation to bring closer in tune.
I gave mine a clean out. It helped but maybe psychosomatic lol.
Have a competent brass repair person solder in a water key on the lower hoop. I had one installed on my compensating bari and it was the best decision I ever made.
Trent, I play baritone in the SFBB, or did until I retired. I have both a BE2056 and an '80's Globe Sovereign 955. The older 955's are hard to beat, metal valve guides, better intonation than the new ones. I enjoyed your solos, beautiful playing.
I'm a little late to the party, I know, but I do love your interpretation of "Fly or Die" at the beginning of this video
I know what you mean about the valve guide, I was on a what I think was a 90s sovereign baritone which had a built into the valve. I just moved to a 90s or early 2000s 4 valved sovereign, yes that's right, and it has those stupid plastic ones, but it's such a nicer instrument. Also what would you recommend for a constant sticking sometimes valve no matter when I oil or wash it. A good baritone solo is Donegal bay. I've only been playing baritone for about a year and was a cornet player before that.
I've had my plastic valveguards on my B&H Souvereign (roundstamp) replaced with metal ones that are fixed to the valve (and not to the stem). Much better!
I would love to see you cover “Fly or Die” on trombone.
Cristian Coolio his arm would die
Yeah its likes the hardest thing ever.
Quite a beautiful baritone horn. It has a great tone, best sounding compared to the other baritones you've showcased.
That opening fly or die was very pleasing
Your playing of Harlequin at the end is great, I would have loved to hear all of it.
This is the same make and model that I play and I have the same issues. When I was first loaned the horn, I changed the springs, felts and valve guides. I also do the "rotate" manoeuvre to get rid of the water. Another fault I find is that the valves tend to drip water onto my trousers during a long performance and it looks like I've pee'd myself when the band takes the final bow!
Yeah, that's what I tend to do :-)
One of my band teachers in school was primarily a pianist but she knows her way around baritones and euphs pretty well. She brought her baritone in (a normal 3 + 1 compensating) and it had this plastic cup that would slide onto the bottoms of the 3 valves to catch spit. Not sure what it's called but I've seen some decent trumpet players with similar accessories.
Well I finally took the plunge and purchased this horn. Compared to the knock-off copies it wins hands down on every level. The first thing apparent is it weights significantly more than those Chinese copy empty soda can feeling instruments. The second thing is everything feels solid, smooth, and the compression is first rate. Lastly it is very responsive and easy to change the color of the sound.
Love the sound!
That first piece you played absolutely slaps.
i love the tone and timber of this horn i had a 1978 olds marching trombone and thiis sounds much more
crisp and clean
brokenwrench1 cause its a baritone
No no marching trombones are a lot more cylindrical than marching baritones
Hi my name's Andrew Im 11 I play tenor sax and I have been watching you for about a week and I love your vids
I have exactly the same spit problem with my soverign baritone. Other than that its a lovely instrument
My school has a besson 3v compensating recording tuba, though I forgot the exact model of it.
My experience with plastic valve guides is pretty bad too. In my high school band we had Yamaha euphoniums and in my freshman year one of those little plastic valve guides got rotated somehow. It took me a while to figure that out. So there’s a little hole in the top of the valve where a little notch on the valve guide fits into. But there just happened to be another larger hole on another part of the top of the valve that the guide somehow got stuck into. It was a pain to fix.
Trent-Forgive an ignorant American, if you can, but here in the land upover baritone and euph are treated interchangeably in community bands such as mine. I know the difference between the two (conical bore=euphonium), but what does the baritone do in British band mix that the euphonium and trombone don’t?
The lighter timbre mixes better with the tenor horn (alto horn as it’s called in the US), where as the eupho is more of a colouring instrument.
The Prestige baritone is the same with the plastic guides.
Harlequin is such a good piece!!
Maybe you could ask a repairer to fit an extra water key. I got an extra key put on a Yamaha tenor horn -'it saved me a lot of fiddlearsing about (and some unwelcome gurgling).
Agree with both of your criticisms. It makes floods of water, especially if the instrument cools for any length of time (tea break during rehersals LOL). One thing I've noticed is that any 2/3 valve combinations seem a nightmare to play in tune (very, very flat). Is that just my bari technique or might it be the instrument?
I have discovered both of your points to be the case for me too. A flat, mid range, is particularly grating and difficult to make sing.
They make the Guides plastic so you can replace them to suit your color. Most professional baritones and euphoniums make their valve guides out of plastic. My John Packer came with extra valve guides
To suit your colour?? They're hidden components that you only see when you disassemble the valve...
You should do more videos on the pocket trumpet
By any chance could you make a video in which you compare a B flat trumpet with a B flat soprano bugle
lol! lady here ;)
Yeah, all of a sudden it felt like 1952.
Gretchen Maculo: ohh who am i kidding...honestly, me
Oof this is a rare creature we should approach with caution.
@@FrankDudgeon I mean, it was just a joke
What can I get the music for this????
Please do a video on a piccolo French horn
Baritone squad yeet
Would you want me to send you a vidoe of a drum core level yamaha marching baritone
I started laughing when you said yamaha lol.
@@braydenheadrick260 Why
Christopher Alvarado bc they make motorcycles and boats
@@braydenheadrick260 Oh yeah it's funny when you find out a company is also in a completely different industry
Christopher Alvarado dude they make decent instruments for high schoolers
I like the barbershop tag brass intro
Ethan Hayden who wouldn’t
Is that a Denis wick 3ay or sm5 mouthpiece?
6BY
Yamaha use replaceable plastic valve guides on their Euphononiums. More annoyingly, they can be fitted in more than one orientation, and render the instrument completely useless until corrected. Those who like to fidget with the valve caps and buttons during a break are either already very familiar with this problem, or will soon discover it.
Is that fly or die that I hear?
Most beautiful.
What mouthpiece do you use with the Baritone?
A baritone mouthpiece
Trent. I recently took a class on world culture and not band. So now I do not have a tuba. I'm sure you know that they cost about as much as your first car. And since I'm getting my licence I need something cheaper that's not going to be part Chineseium. So where can I get a cheap good quality tuba? Maybe make a video?
I hear Wessex, Eastman, and John Packer are pretty good budget options. They're chinese-made but go through a lot more quality control than other importers. Also I know that Wessex has a really good return/refund policy - there's a 3 year warranty on manufacturer error and also you get 2 weeks to try the instrument once it gets to you and decide if you like it (of course you have to pay shipping though). I also tried a 4v Eastman BBb and liked it, never would've guessed its Chinese. Don't know much about JP brass but Trent likes their Eb Bass. I'm mostly just going off what I've seen on reviews and forum posts though. If you really want non-Chinese and affordable you basically have to go second hand.
trent would you be willing to trade for a besson 3v compensating eupho? bell is forward facing.
This baritone doesn’t belong to me
I WILL WRITE A BARITONE SOLO FOR YOU TRENT
Are you no longer the bandmaster?
This is a different band.
What band do you play for?
There is a $113 flugelhorn on ebay i want you to review
But i dont have one
People are talking about the fly or die cover
I’m the one talking about how the instrument sounds good
Do u think one of these is worth picking up
Do try not to drop it.
I’m literally holding baritone in my lap right now lol
Cornel Botnaru Sir, there are ladies present...
Ha you didn't need to correct yourself, one more lady here watching you!
uh oh! Girls!
wow at 0:42
One does run across female brass players (to include baritonists and euphonists) fairly often, so "Ladies and Gentlemen" is completely appropriate.
Definitely deserved the zero dislikes
cool cool
It sounds better on bass trombone
Hey so right, trombone player here, so fucking uhhhhhhhh DCI..... do I learn euph?
That opening line sounds so defeated.
I love you
I. Play. The baritone
You’re like the Gordon Ramsey if instruments🤣
I thought that one bass trombone cover was good
In. Band
FLY OR DIIIIEEEE
OMG FLY OR DIE
I am a girl. ;-;
did you just assume my gender what if i were to identify myself as a toaster
Then you wouldn't be on here. Toasters can't type. Duh.
I play baritone and I’m a girl lmao
Me too haha!
Why play brass when you can just play sax?
Jokes on you I perform with both
Areet Sheth: ey...same, and offensive (multi-instrumentalist)
Sherlock gamer: same