Teeqo! You’re a legend man! Thanks for introducing me to CS back when we were all just COD players. Level 10 now! Cheers man, the realest guy Faze has ever seen
Bro didn t you watch the video he isnt a scammer a guy sends messages from a fake acc and gets the money and make the deal then gives the %90 percent to ohne so he is not a scammer maybe kind of a scammer king mafia boss sth like that.
This is unbelievably shitty, but honestly, I have to admire the genius of this method. I would be so skeptical of anyone messaging me on discord for any skins though
I can't believe that people actually are selling a high tier skins without double-checking or say fuck it...just call the cash trader, than you would instantly know that it's a real human or not
Probably some third worlder that got lucky who doesn’t even know english, and thus, no research. They place themselves lower than the scammer who obv knows more English thinking they know more shit them they do.
honestly I'm also baffled that people send one sided trade offers AT ALL. Even if I knew I would deal with the real ohne (or any other reputable, well known trader) I still wouldn't send a one sided trade because you never know what could happen
@@TubeTurkey94 LooseCS he isnt a big buyer, i realised it was a fake account on discord after i went on a discord server which loose is partnered with and found out his username was something else than the scammer's
That seems a bit out of date. It's known as the three-way scam. I always add people on steam and talk to them before anytrade Scammers often utilize this in online commerce, not just CS. It is also widely used in crypto trading (the sale of crypto for dollars or other currencies), and a lot of people fell for it.
Tbh it is already a well known scam method outside of cs. I mean it is a typical triangle scam. There are also a lot of offers on ebay like apps that pretend to sell you a cheap iphone but instead you are sending the money to someone else with the real phone and they ship it to the scammer. That is why you should always ONLY ship to the shipping adress that is saved in paypal rather than the one they give you via chat.
This scam has been around for a long time and is super old in the clothing community done by people in the US it’s just that Indians and Russians on CS have found out about it.
and this is why you just should sell on float etc and eat the small fee if there is any. But to be honest while the method is clever you still need to be a clueless guy to fall for this, like how can you not do basic verification that you are contacting the real guy. And always suspect it to be a scammer if you as the seller get contacted first
Public awareness of scam methods is always the way. If scammers figure out some sort of method that has a decent success rate they’re just going to use it as much as possible, and share/sell the method to other bad actors. Leak the methods, make as many people aware as possible, that’s the best thing you can do to help others avoid this in the future. Comment for the algorithm, thanks for sharing
Great video bro. I had someone named like fish something try to add me on discord a couple weeks ago. I blocked him. Then another one of his accounts. Blocked again. THEN ANOTHER ONE. All 3 different accounts. Wild. I feel bad for people that fall for it because man me in cs source and early csgo days probably would’ve. I was so ignorant with tech and security and stuff back then compared to now.. stay safe! Thank you!
This is why. You always message the person on a different app. If they are talking to u on discord. Hit up who your suppose to be trading on Twitter also. Without telling who you are talking to currently. that will tell u if it's the real person. Always double message. People be faking but can't fake everyhting
if a scam is new and underground then thats EXACTLY why you make a video on it for awareness, if you dont then thats 10k people (as of now) who could have been scammed but now, because of you we wont so thank you but if you know of these its best to get it out asap and spread the word to other content creators too
This has been around for atleast 8 years in my country. Cash trading is very common here, so the scammer finds 1 buyer and 1 seller, then pretending that he wants to sell an item to the first victim, and then saying that he wants to buy an item for the same price from the second victim. The scammer then gives the bank details from from the second victim to the first victim, so the guy with the skin gets paid. The scammer then sends his own tradelink to the seller and get the item. The first victim who paid for nothing ends up getting scammed and accusing the other victim of scamming him. It's called triangle scam.
That's crazy. I wouldn't fall for it just because I ignore anyone contacting me first out of principle, but I definitely didn't see how they could scam with the real trade link until you revealed it. I think awareness is good for this. I don't think the cash traders should take the loss for this, but if they are aware of it they can certainly help stop it.
Scams are always so simple to understand, it's like a magic trick, once you know how it works it seems so obvious, but when the scammer messages you you gotta remember, this is what they do for a living, they are like pros at social engineering.
Best way to avoid getting scammed is to never add people on anything apart from steam, never click any chat links or trade links sent to you, and I always have them send me the trade offer, and if you don’t have them send the trade offer go directly to their profile from your friends list and send it that way so you know you’re actually offering the correct individual, at which time in this scam you would notice they aren’t who they claim to be. Steam discussions thread is flooded w this right now
That's actually next level... easy to fool a victim who already thinks youre the real one, and easy to get someone to make hella profit off of items they think are yours.
I would say to myself that I am cautious but i almost fell for a scam lately because i often use the "looking to play" function in cs2. Turns out that most people who invite you ( even with high steam level and 25k+ elo) try to scam you. But like in the video, they all ask for discord and as soon someone asks for your dc, you can be certain its a scam.
I’m surprised by how simple the idea of it is that it hasn’t been popularly done before. Social engineering really goes far no matter the barriers constantly built and upgraded throughout time
This might have become more and more common on a global scale lately. But this scam has been very common e. g. in Denmark for several years. I did a lot of trading and reselling etc. 3-4 years ago, and I remember this type of scam being on the rise. The scammers found a lot of clever ways of doing it, involving any stuff you can sell online really. It could be furniture, a pc, or even a car. Whereas the seller sends the item to the scammer, after having received money from a third-party, which the seller never knew was involved. I might remember incorrectly, but I think we just labeled it as "third-party scam" in the Danish community, and is a very known scam by now
yk i trade around 20k, used to have my steam connected. BIG MISTAKE, so many poeople add you for no reason but to scam you. amazing video, keep the community safe cheers man!
Why is it so hard for people to simply spend like 2 minutes to verify if they are texting with scammer/hacked account or not? If they did that 99% (if not 100%) of scams would be impossible to pull of.
Wow, this is next level social engineering. It's so simple that theres very minimal red flags and a fall guy to take the heat. I'm surprised it hasnt happened sooner.
the worst part with this scam is that there's not really anything anyone can do about it unless the bigger traders start doing like background checks and make you add them on steam which is a really annoying thing for them to have to do for each trade lol. and over time people will forget about this scam so it'll work again. not even sure if steam/valve could do anything to make this work either.
@@Sizzyl it beats me how you assume people dealing with thousands of cash shouldn't take the effort of verifying the person. most sales done on shady marketplaces always require verification due to scams like this being extremely comum. it was merely a failure of not verifying.
@@oooooba8343 this will work well for the larger established traders but I think it's a scam people will forget over time which isn't super obvious unless you've seen a video like this one.
NGL I almost fell for something very similar, except the guy was pretending to be a bot on a site where u can sell your rust/csgo skins. He even tried convincing me the bots are safe or whatever, by me completing an actual trade on the site, and getting my cheap skin back. (Rust skins are immediately tradable) Then he sent me an offer after i listed the items, and reaaally pushed on me accepting it, even tho i smelled how suspicious that shit was
I was thaught this scamm pretty recently in college, it's a neat scamm that happens quite often in my country, usually with cars or houses, things that are hard to sell, and sell for quite a lot
more like a 1% succes rate. This wont work 99% of times. The cash trader made a dumb mistake by sending the money to the wrong person and the other guy made the dumb mistake of believing he was talking to the right guy.
I see a guy in deathmatch asking me if i wanna play premier with him and hes asked the same thing in 4 different occasions, almost as if he is following me in deathmatch servers. And he keeps insisting for me to add him and play premier while also being excessively friendly. Definitely a scammer.
This is the most stupid way to get got, don't accept any friend requests, or if it is a big trader, ask to go into a voice chat with them, or video call.
this just called a 3 person scam. works in a few ways. i sold some speaskers a while back. the scammer sold something very cheap and made the buyer pay me and then picked up the speaker. a bit fucked.
In my life i was scamed once. One dude told me to trade some tf2 items and he will give me the money. It took me 3 days to realize i wont receive the money. Since then i always asked myself how stupid can you be to fall for this. You seriously trust a stranger to give you money later? Really?
Crazy how this is just being spoken about. I had this or something similar to this happen to me like 6 or seven years ago, back when opskins was still a thing.
If cash traders were held to any sort of professional accountability they should be verifying people’s identity in some way whether by messaging steam and asking them to confirm they’re the same person who is in contact on another platform
I mean, it all comes down - again - to someone being completely naive when they are being contacted on some platform without knowing who the other person is. The pretence of identity scamming shouldn't exist at that point anymore. People should know. Apparently, collective knowledge is - still - not high enough for people to know.
who would not confirm that this is the real person they are trading to? if Anomaly messaged me wanting to buy my skin i would automatically say "call me in person, please." or go to their stream and talk live. its that easy. never ever accept random trades.
Don't do a trafe via a tradelink unless it's giving someone skins for a video or something. If you're doing a cash trade with a famous person always add them on steam and speak to them. If they don't add you back and speak to you then it's not them and they have no idea what's going on.
Thats honestly stupid enough to be real basically always contact those people ur self THEY WILL NOT CONTACT YOU no idea why ppl fall for it i doubt these traders look for newly unboxed knives and stuff all day they literally say send us an offer we wont send it ourselves
thats actually insane
Teeqo! You’re a legend man! Thanks for introducing me to CS back when we were all just COD players. Level 10 now! Cheers man, the realest guy Faze has ever seen
No way teeqo
Hii teeqo ❤love you man
teeqo been watching you since 2018 can u give me a knife on cs please?
@@DoDDyMoCk lmao
What a silly and effective technique lmao
Bros alive 😮
@@卡里穆 yeah for the most part
damn, the scambaiting goattt
@@fvgi’ll find your ass anywhere bro 🤣
@@fvg for the most part?? you doin alright bro?
so what you are saying is that ohnepixel is a scammer right?
That's what I learnt from the video, don't trust Mark "Ohnepixel" Zimmermann
@@orioloop I always knew Mark "ohnePixel" Zimmermann (Coach of "DRILLAS") was a scanner. Everybody report.
😂😂
Bro didn t you watch the video he isnt a scammer a guy sends messages from a fake acc and gets the money and make the deal then gives the %90 percent to ohne so he is not a scammer maybe kind of a scammer king mafia boss sth like that.
Whoosh
This is unbelievably shitty, but honestly, I have to admire the genius of this method. I would be so skeptical of anyone messaging me on discord for any skins though
It’s not new this has been a thing in the clothing community just that Indians and Russians barely found out about it.
@@purpleranger5987 Same in Germany with Ebay, ppl been doing it for years with phones n stuff
Brotha, thanks for making this vid actually, Its a lot of help
no matter how safe your accounts are the weakest link can be social engineering
kudos to you man! this video is a HUGE help!!! that's why I never accept random dms on discord!
This scam is so old lmfao what
I've been playing cs for a year, I've never heard of this scam before. Isn't that the point of the video?
@@gaunito patrick?
I think its crazy to send such a big trade to someone while not having the person added on steam, but good video to put it out there non the less
you'd be surprised how many empty trade offers with thousands of skins that get sent to big cash traders daily!
@@FlareyCS Im sure ohne gets probably thousands inc ases and shit sent to him weekly.
thats actually so simple but so effective, surprised i didn't hear about anyone using it before
Thanks for making this public i had no idea about this and this will prevent this happening to people like me who didnt know
4:05 "if i can help ten scammers"
Remember, reputable traders will never add you out of the blue on discord.
the scam is fucked 😭
I can't believe that people actually are selling a high tier skins without double-checking or say fuck it...just call the cash trader, than you would instantly know that it's a real human or not
Probably some third worlder that got lucky who doesn’t even know english, and thus, no research. They place themselves lower than the scammer who obv knows more English thinking they know more shit them they do.
I remember this happening for like the first time a few months ago. Blew my mind. Definitely glad you made this vid flarey!
Thank you for giving the community a heads up on this deal bro.
honestly I'm also baffled that people send one sided trade offers AT ALL.
Even if I knew I would deal with the real ohne (or any other reputable, well known trader) I still wouldn't send a one sided trade because you never know what could happen
how to do trash cades then?
This is similar to the methods some telemarketer/tech support impersonation scammers use. There's gotta be a name for it.
I've heard it referred to as the ABC scam as it involves person A (legit buyer), B (scammer), C (legit seller)
basic social engineering
@@dakorone How is it different from a 2 way scam?
someone tried to scam me for a 30$ skin like that 2 weeks ago lol.
Which buyer did they use? Because I couldn't see any of these big dogs even entertain a $30 skin? Lol
@@TubeTurkey94 LooseCS he isnt a big buyer, i realised it was a fake account on discord after i went on a discord server which loose is partnered with and found out his username was something else than the scammer's
@bringsiphon true scumbags man. Glad you noticed though. I even get sketched out selling on float lol
try sell your cheap skins at skinport never had an issues there
Exactly why I refuse to do deals where they add and message me first. Can't trust anyone
4D chess type scamming method
That seems a bit out of date.
It's known as the three-way scam.
I always add people on steam and talk to them before anytrade
Scammers often utilize this in online commerce, not just CS.
It is also widely used in crypto trading (the sale of crypto for dollars or other currencies),
and a lot of people fell for it.
Thanks for sharing Flarey, always good to know what the current scams are
This is beyond scamming, this is hustling
Tbh it is already a well known scam method outside of cs. I mean it is a typical triangle scam. There are also a lot of offers on ebay like apps that pretend to sell you a cheap iphone but instead you are sending the money to someone else with the real phone and they ship it to the scammer. That is why you should always ONLY ship to the shipping adress that is saved in paypal rather than the one they give you via chat.
instead of giving the money just like that, verify if that's the guy who gave you the item 💀
anyway, great video, good explanation
This scam has been around for a long time and is super old in the clothing community done by people in the US it’s just that Indians and Russians on CS have found out about it.
and this is why you just should sell on float etc and eat the small fee if there is any. But to be honest while the method is clever you still need to be a clueless guy to fall for this, like how can you not do basic verification that you are contacting the real guy. And always suspect it to be a scammer if you as the seller get contacted first
Public awareness of scam methods is always the way. If scammers figure out some sort of method that has a decent success rate they’re just going to use it as much as possible, and share/sell the method to other bad actors. Leak the methods, make as many people aware as possible, that’s the best thing you can do to help others avoid this in the future. Comment for the algorithm, thanks for sharing
Great video bro. I had someone named like fish something try to add me on discord a couple weeks ago. I blocked him. Then another one of his accounts. Blocked again. THEN ANOTHER ONE. All 3 different accounts. Wild. I feel bad for people that fall for it because man me in cs source and early csgo days probably would’ve. I was so ignorant with tech and security and stuff back then compared to now.. stay safe! Thank you!
This is why. You always message the person on a different app. If they are talking to u on discord. Hit up who your suppose to be trading on Twitter also. Without telling who you are talking to currently. that will tell u if it's the real person. Always double message. People be faking but can't fake everyhting
I cannot believe Mark "Ohnepixel" Zimmerman would do this.
if a scam is new and underground then thats EXACTLY why you make a video on it for awareness, if you dont then thats 10k people (as of now) who could have been scammed but now, because of you we wont so thank you but if you know of these its best to get it out asap and spread the word to other content creators too
This has been around for atleast 8 years in my country. Cash trading is very common here, so the scammer finds 1 buyer and 1 seller, then pretending that he wants to sell an item to the first victim, and then saying that he wants to buy an item for the same price from the second victim. The scammer then gives the bank details from from the second victim to the first victim, so the guy with the skin gets paid. The scammer then sends his own tradelink to the seller and get the item. The first victim who paid for nothing ends up getting scammed and accusing the other victim of scamming him. It's called triangle scam.
That's crazy. I wouldn't fall for it just because I ignore anyone contacting me first out of principle, but I definitely didn't see how they could scam with the real trade link until you revealed it. I think awareness is good for this. I don't think the cash traders should take the loss for this, but if they are aware of it they can certainly help stop it.
Scams are always so simple to understand, it's like a magic trick, once you know how it works it seems so obvious, but when the scammer messages you you gotta remember, this is what they do for a living, they are like pros at social engineering.
Really good and short informative video gj!
Best way to avoid getting scammed is to never add people on anything apart from steam, never click any chat links or trade links sent to you, and I always have them send me the trade offer, and if you don’t have them send the trade offer go directly to their profile from your friends list and send it that way so you know you’re actually offering the correct individual, at which time in this scam you would notice they aren’t who they claim to be. Steam discussions thread is flooded w this right now
This is amazing! Thanks for the tip flarey!
Thanks for making this video i had no idea about this type of scam
That's actually next level... easy to fool a victim who already thinks youre the real one, and easy to get someone to make hella profit off of items they think are yours.
thanks for putting me on game
I would say to myself that I am cautious but i almost fell for a scam lately because i often use the "looking to play" function in cs2. Turns out that most people who invite you ( even with high steam level and 25k+ elo) try to scam you. But like in the video, they all ask for discord and as soon someone asks for your dc, you can be certain its a scam.
I’m surprised by how simple the idea of it is that it hasn’t been popularly done before. Social engineering really goes far no matter the barriers constantly built and upgraded throughout time
This might have become more and more common on a global scale lately. But this scam has been very common e. g. in Denmark for several years. I did a lot of trading and reselling etc. 3-4 years ago, and I remember this type of scam being on the rise.
The scammers found a lot of clever ways of doing it, involving any stuff you can sell online really. It could be furniture, a pc, or even a car. Whereas the seller sends the item to the scammer, after having received money from a third-party, which the seller never knew was involved. I might remember incorrectly, but I think we just labeled it as "third-party scam" in the Danish community, and is a very known scam by now
yk i trade around 20k, used to have my steam connected. BIG MISTAKE, so many poeople add you for no reason but to scam you.
amazing video, keep the community safe cheers man!
thats crazy damn, nice for putting this out there +rep
Why is it so hard for people to simply spend like 2 minutes to verify if they are texting with scammer/hacked account or not? If they did that 99% (if not 100%) of scams would be impossible to pull of.
You should make more content like this, that was dope
Wow, this is next level social engineering. It's so simple that theres very minimal red flags and a fall guy to take the heat. I'm surprised it hasnt happened sooner.
The middleman scam, very common stuff outside of games, typically involves social engineering
this scam tactic is so old its called triangle
That is such a high iQ scam and I bet the guy that came up with it made a bag. Good that you talked about it
Thanks for advice. been running out of ideas!
so victim loses MONEY, KNIFE, ohne loses money GETS KNIFE
My only worry is to open an emerald butterfly knife in the first place, when I only open blues....
the worst part with this scam is that there's not really anything anyone can do about it unless the bigger traders start doing like background checks and make you add them on steam which is a really annoying thing for them to have to do for each trade lol. and over time people will forget about this scam so it'll work again. not even sure if steam/valve could do anything to make this work either.
other bit would be verifying you're talking to the same guy but it's pretty easy to miss that detail when trading a bunch lol
@@Sizzyl it beats me how you assume people dealing with thousands of cash shouldn't take the effort of verifying the person. most sales done on shady marketplaces always require verification due to scams like this being extremely comum. it was merely a failure of not verifying.
@@KewaiiGamer cuz the nature of skins trading and crypto generally are scuffed/anonymous. that's just how these things generally work.
its pretty easy to deal with, just send the seller the profile of the person who sent the trade offer, and confirm that its them?
@@oooooba8343 this will work well for the larger established traders but I think it's a scam people will forget over time which isn't super obvious unless you've seen a video like this one.
This is so simple yet so effective, wonder how long scammers were doing this for
NGL I almost fell for something very similar, except the guy was pretending to be a bot on a site where u can sell your rust/csgo skins.
He even tried convincing me the bots are safe or whatever, by me completing an actual trade on the site, and getting my cheap skin back. (Rust skins are immediately tradable)
Then he sent me an offer after i listed the items, and reaaally pushed on me accepting it, even tho i smelled how suspicious that shit was
me watching this with my 15 dollar inventory to prevent from getting scammed
I was thaught this scamm pretty recently in college, it's a neat scamm that happens quite often in my country, usually with cars or houses, things that are hard to sell, and sell for quite a lot
The real scammers are Valve, because no one just opens 1 case and gets a knife.
YOU SHOULD GIVE ADVICE TO famous sellers too , not only for buyers , to help everyone to avoid the scam
Great Tutorial bro keep Up the Work
Damn that’s crazy I hope a lot of people will see that video and be careful more 🙏🏼
more like a 1% succes rate. This wont work 99% of times. The cash trader made a dumb mistake by sending the money to the wrong person and the other guy made the dumb mistake of believing he was talking to the right guy.
this happened before many times in the past. I think this situation happened to Sonic, if you are a trader you will know who he is
I see a guy in deathmatch asking me if i wanna play premier with him and hes asked the same thing in 4 different occasions, almost as if he is following me in deathmatch servers. And he keeps insisting for me to add him and play premier while also being excessively friendly.
Definitely a scammer.
poor guy just wants to play premier
this is the oldes scam :)) dude.. they did this scam from 2015.... they need to talk on steam, not on any other platforms..
This is the most stupid way to get got, don't accept any friend requests, or if it is a big trader, ask to go into a voice chat with them, or video call.
this just called a 3 person scam. works in a few ways. i sold some speaskers a while back. the scammer sold something very cheap and made the buyer pay me and then picked up the speaker.
a bit fucked.
This is so smart, crazy how smart scammers are sometimes :/
Nice vid. Ty for info.
Thankfully I don't have any item to be scammed lol
In my life i was scamed once. One dude told me to trade some tf2 items and he will give me the money. It took me 3 days to realize i wont receive the money.
Since then i always asked myself how stupid can you be to fall for this. You seriously trust a stranger to give you money later? Really?
Discord really should have stayed a chatting app instead of trying to become a social media platform.
BRO YOU GIVING THEM IDEASSS
Crazy how this is just being spoken about. I had this or something similar to this happen to me like 6 or seven years ago, back when opskins was still a thing.
Normally I hate when the cs2 twitter is in the thumbnail but this is valid. Get as many clicks as possible, like for algo
Thats crazy. The video is gonna help a lot of people
If cash traders were held to any sort of professional accountability they should be verifying people’s identity in some way whether by messaging steam and asking them to confirm they’re the same person who is in contact on another platform
First thing you should do after unboxing a rare is turn you profile private. then you have all the time to do things right and safely
I mean, it all comes down - again - to someone being completely naive when they are being contacted on some platform without knowing who the other person is. The pretence of identity scamming shouldn't exist at that point anymore. People should know. Apparently, collective knowledge is - still - not high enough for people to know.
who would not confirm that this is the real person they are trading to? if Anomaly messaged me wanting to buy my skin i would automatically say "call me in person, please." or go to their stream and talk live. its that easy. never ever accept random trades.
These triangle scams has been around for a while though! But always good with awareness..
this is pretty genius,ngl. i mod in anomaly's discord server and thx for telling us this
I actually got scammed like this few days ago
Kudos to you for sharing
Don't do a trafe via a tradelink unless it's giving someone skins for a video or something. If you're doing a cash trade with a famous person always add them on steam and speak to them. If they don't add you back and speak to you then it's not them and they have no idea what's going on.
Its easy and yet really effective. It surprises me, that this hasnt been discovered a long time ago.
This scam is just like a real life the method is just like this but the scammer is using phone to contact both parties
hahahaha bro got blinded at the end of the video
10 people saved from the scamm, 100 people getting scammed with this vid🔥🔥🔥
This is why I stopped buying skins. Shits so whack how easy it is to scam. No one’s scamming my stock portfolio though.
great video man , thanks for the tip
triangle scam, even it happen irl
Yea honestly there is no easy fix for this bar from making sure everything is happening on steam
Always on site, site is basically middleman.
this is actually old. a 3 way scam. happening not even in CS community.
Thats honestly stupid enough to be real basically always contact those people ur self THEY WILL NOT CONTACT YOU no idea why ppl fall for it i doubt these traders look for newly unboxed knives and stuff all day they literally say send us an offer we wont send it ourselves
damn, thanks for the lambo little bro
jk this is actually crazy tho , people that buy skins like anomaly they need to make their own websites with trusted bots for quicksell
hopefully the cash traders see this and start to verify the identity of these people since they can easily stop the scam from happening themselves