As a paramedic I can honestly say that Zach was illegally transported to the hospital. If he was alert and oriented and didn't say he was suicidal, they couldn't take him to the hospital. A real medic would of been ecstatic that he didn't want to go to the hospital and would of had Zach sign a refusal form and been on his merry way.
@@JV-cw8pw probably not. Cops are assholes and most med staff at 8 am don't want to deal with a drunk angry man so they just ride him along through the process as fast as they can
Yeah, I'm employed with the Department of Criminal Justice and I used to worm security at a hospital. Those cops did not follow proper course of action. Granted they're New York cops, police from large metropolitan areas tend not to be reviewed and kept up with as much as in smaller towns because they don't have the time or resources the manage every officer and make sure they are actually using their training. So that's definitely why, but that does not excuse their actions. Though if this was brought to trial I guarantee you they'd get off spotless.
Also the guy in the back of the ambulance *does* have to give him his name, at least if he's an officer or security guard or anything like that. I don't know about hospital staff
Chris legitimately thought it would’ve been wise to run from the cops. He made it sound so simple by saying “you could’ve just ran between buildings and lost them”. It’s not fucking GTA, Chris!
deluded gamer brainrot moment wont lie and say if i were in zachs shoes i wouldn't intrusively think of something like chris did myself in the moment lol..
@@HazeLmao I mean we are talking about Zach here , who not the most physically fit guy and also pretty drunk. No way he gonna outrun the cops unless he black.
I am an EMT in California and I can say for certain that the EMT that told Zach to stfu and proceeded to threaten him acted unlawfully and was guilty of violating multiple guidelines that outline an EMT's scope of practice, by transporting Zach to the hospital after Zach tells him that he does not want to go, he does not have insurance, that EMT is guilty of kidnapping. Then with threatening to bash your skull in, he is then guilty of assault, he could've not only lost his job for those instances but lost his license and not been allowed to work as a first responder again
Don’t know about Cali but where I live assault means physical contact with intent to harm or physical threat with intent to harm like swinging an missing, so telling someone you’re going to bash their head isn’t assault. But get this, where I live communicating a threat like telling someone you’re going to hit them actually carries a harsher punishment than actually attempting to harm them.
Did ya miss the part where he said some of them give them all a bad rep? He clearly wouldn't have much respect for the pair of assholes who sent him to that psychotic EMT who threatened him
@@VikingPoodle why are you simping cops on this story of all places “Cops threatened to bash my head in when I got locked out” is a basic American cop experience
@@itsjayhIf it's a choice to be part of a group that statistically has been dogshit for ages then yes it's fine to generalize. You can choose whether or not to be a cop.
NYPD are the worst, the exact same thing has happened to me but they also confiscated clothes and lost my shoes/ shirt before turning me loose in the middle of bushwick with a dead cellphone and scrubs
@@A_Black_Sheep94 "pigs" Yeah, I can tell you're a total piece of shit. If you don't have the rationale to realize not all cops are bad it's you who should be called a pig.
It sucks to say. But they may have thought zack was drunker than he actually was because of his voice. Not saying what they did was in any way justifiable. But it is a possibility
I have a good friend in the police department. He agrees that the bad reputation is a problem when confronting people but he said he can't help but feel for those who were harmed in police brutality. They started a new training course to ensure nobody gets hurt. Basically just retreat from a suspect until you can take them down without using a gun. Back yourself up to more patrols and taser the suspect. If the suspect is unarmed just keep your distance. If no threat has been found approach them and pump them for information. He also said if a police officer is being friendly you must keep your guard up. They are trying to trap you in admitting you MIGHT have commited a crime.
A lot of cops bend or outright break laws for their own convenience most of those that do also cannot accept even the tiniest idea that they are in the wrong at all.
Because society hail's pigs as heroes and then they use that to feed their narcissism and ego. Also they know if they're caught breaking the law, even murder, they get a slap on the wrist at most.
I want more then anything for there to be a smiling friends episode that is just Charlie going through this. And he models the EMT exactly as he remembers the guy looking
Same thing happened to me when I was fucked up and lucid. Was forced to go to the hospital and told everyone I had no money or insurance and wasn't allowed to leave. They tried to force me to have several Iv's which would have been hundreds more of dollars. They made me stay for several hours and tried to make stay several more. I'm still fighting the bills right now.
@@Henryduckfan63 Imma thought he was not with friends, because why would friends allow him to have that happen to him. If you get really fucked up always do it with people you trust.
I feel my heart genuinely beating hard listening to this. I hate the types of people who if given any modicum of authority, think they are above their own rules, and get off on treating people like shit. I hope those two cops and (possible) EMT all later got fired for acting in a similar fashion. Like Zach I'm not a 'fuck the pigs' guy, but I am a 'fuck the pigs who act like pigs' guy.
here's the thing.WHY in any country should running from people who are in the wrong, who wrongly brought you to a hospital, expecting an an average civillian to pay medical bills which every US citizen knows is impossible, be a felony? i'd cheer for zach
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Running on foot is a class A misdemeanor. It's only a felony if by vehicle.
I’m willing to bet that multiple people in the NYC local government own shares of that hospital. Tell cops to grab random drunks, hire unqualified thugs as EMTs to intimidate people into compliance, and then put them through every unnecessary test and “treatment” to rack up their medical bill.
This EXACTLY what they're for. Even if the local precinct's detox box was full they still had no right to do what they did to Zach. As a matter of fact, what they did was illegal and the same goes for the shitbag EMT. Zach could fight the bill and also counter sue. However, I'm not a lawyer so take what I say with a grain of salt
Dude this sounds like such a dumb pointless incident. I got really drunk the night before thanksgiving and was literally hands and knees vomiting on the side of a hill at 130 in the morning. An ambulance showed up and cops because i was being so loud i guess. I just remember looking up. Seeing them they asked me if i needed to go to the hospital and the cops were like telling me to get in. And i just looked up said. "Nah im fine im going home just give me a minute" vomited once more. Stood up and stumbled down the hill and spent 3 hours to walk what should have been 10 minutes because i kept stopping to give my legs a break. Literally i think i was probably more pissed than zach here but i just refused the offer and went home and thats it. Maybe it has to do with the fact that im in canada but still this seems like a bullshit scenario. Feel bad for zach
I've been taken to the hospital for public drunkenness or some malarky once (basically I went home from a party visibly drunk, and had the rotten luck of tripping and falling on my face just when a police car went by, so it seemed like I was totally trashed), and while the policemen who "caught" me were almost friendly and had more like a "sorry man, rules are rules" kind of attitude, the EMT guy was very rude, abrasive and threatening. So yeah, there ARE medical professionals who act like total asshats.
The obvious lesson here, which I hope Zach absorbed, is that it doesn't matter how much you trust the police or take their side. There are officers who will wrong you and transport you against your will or worse everywhere no matter who you are.
Reminds me of that one twitter post asking if its illegal to stop past the stop bar, only to show a police car doing the exact thing Or my buddy who's parents are both cops and drive like maniacs when behind the wheel, off duty
Very similar thing happened to me. Cops told me if I went with them to the hospital I wouldn't be charged a thing and a doctor would see me. I sat around for 8 hours and no doctor came, they took my blood without my permission, and then told me the doctor forgot about me but he'd be in tomorrow. So sleep tight. No doctor ever showed up to talk to me and I signed myself out of the hospital. Then a couple weeks later the hospital billed me for several thousands of dollars. They also wouldn't let me use the bathroom to pee while I was there "Because Covid".
I appreciate that Zach and the rest of the gang still have respect for EMT's and the police after Zach's little adventure. Too often people take one example like this to justify their hatred of cops and EMT's. That said, every single cop and emt in this little story should be fired.
I think it should be common sense to just not trust law enforcement. Let them be to do their jobs but don't make the mistake of thinking they care about you or are your friends.
Zach should've drawn the EMT guy and sued the police for kidnapping him then showed the judge the drawing of the EMT guy so they can identify him so he can lose his job
This is old, but in the bay area of CA, i found our a 4 year relationship i was being cheated on while staying at her house, i walked out and went on a journey heavily drinking abd threw the bottle away in a can, and to finally calm myself; i laid myself down on a sidewalk thats not normally used, and listened to my music and look at the stars (calm neighborhood with near no lights) and after 20 mins i saq flashing lights and got quesriojes by ambukance for about 20 mins, and i was honest about my situation, and they said i could go back with them to the hospital or tell the police i was drunk in public
Had a very similar experience. The only difference was the emt in the back of the truck was decently cool. I looked at him and said “man... this blows” and all he said was “yeah... I know.”
I am an EMT in NYC and I can tell you that person who said that they’ll beat you up is likely true. Many EMT have this bs that they hate drunks and homless and treat them wrong.
Also in NYC intoxicated individuals no matter if alert and fully with it, can be taken to hospital under the discretion of of PD and EMS based on if the patient is a danger to self, such as an unsteady gait. EMS will advise the patient but if they run we can’t do anything but if PD is with us we will detain you.
this has legit happened to me several times, pulled it up again cause it just happened again. its the most infuriating thing. i was five minutes away from my house; ended up in the hospital the whole day, then had to walk home several miles from 9pm to midnight.
Is this something they charge you for? They ignored him about the insurance and the bill, and they didnt have his address, I really wonder if he could get charged for it
@@meggang9566 maybe public intoxication but I think they have guidelines for charging that like an officer has to get your BAC before they book you in a jail cell or police station.
I understand the cops line of thinking, but if i was there i would humor him, I would call the number like what’s he gonna do there’s two cops right there
@Crisbideioz so then wouldn't it be better spent on socialising health care? I swear y'all complain about this shit and have no alternative for where the money should go to
@@stevenwall2010 It's objectively not a shit country, we rank higher than most European countries in standard of living and we take in the most immigrants.
Sounds like the but from Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep where Deckard is taken to a police department run by the androids. I plan on going into law enforcement, and the officers were probably either power-tripping or were given some kind of mandate by their union to arrest a certain number of people. A lot of shitty cop behavior is due to union mandates, but I don't know if that PD enforced unionization.
Tacityoshi1234 there is no "union mandate". I hope you dont get into law enforcement because you are dumb. If anything police let stuff go sometimes to make their crime rates look lower than they actually are, giving the image that they are doing a good job.
CoolMan Caravan there are definitely quotas cops have to fill, because of the privatization of prisons and mandates. It’s the reason tickets given by cops increases exponentially in the last week of the month. I hope you don’t look at everything police do through rose tinted glasses
It’s messed up that people are defending the cops. He had a right to refuse the ambulance. Yes he was drunk and got sick but he wasn’t being violent. If they would’ve just checked with someone in the building about the address it would’ve easily been solved.
is there some kind of thing going on in the US where they force people into ambulances so that they can charge them? Seems like the only place where that would make a profit.
Myself and two friends got caught smoking weed in one of our parked cars. They tried to give the guy sitting in the driver’s seat a DUI. They tried to see if any of us were processing oil by straight up asking if we knew how to make oil. They tried to say I knowingly left out admitting to having a bowl on me after I gave up all my belongings to them. They had a dog come and check the car and they didn’t find the bowl, it was found days later by the owner of the car. They also started trying to be real friendly during our detainment; one of my friends started replying and I was worried my friend was gonna incriminate himself or all three of us. We each got slapped with a $150 possession ticket, not terrible but still was a ridiculous situation.
This is why you can't trust the police. Zach was in the wrong for throwing up all over an apartment lobby, but the police were also in the wrong. They didn't even try to help Zach besides throwing him into an ambulance. All he really needed was a glass of water and some bread to get his bearings. Or how about even a ride to his friends house, or try to call his friend or girlfriend? Nope, throw them into some kind of prison and move along
From a cops perspective I imagine his voice sounds like hes coming down from a weekend long coke bender not to mention that they thought his girlfriend kicked him out the apartment adds to that story. Still fucked up what happened to him, when I was in the drunk tank they stole my DL and my debit card and kept tryna argue with me while I was drunk asf I woke up later like wow these guys go to work to argue with drunks lmao
A public intoxication arrest doesn't require a breathalyzer. Going to the hospital to be sobered up is preferable to being arrested. Also, it sounds like he was considerably more drunk than he remembers.
Maybe in most other Country's that would be the case, but in lieu of the US' fucked up health care system I think Zach was completely in the right. Being drunk and disruptive in public, particularly in the day is one thing ( which definitely should be punishable), but Zach wasn't doing that, he was wandering home from a night out with friends. Something practically every young adult in the civilized world has done at some point or another. Besides, no matter how drunk Zach was I doubt he's misremembering the main details of how the night went down. The medical and security workers were being completely unprofessional and were 100% in the wrong.
But he was though. While he may not have been outside he was still in the public eye. He was in the lobby of his apartment vomiting and causing enough of a commotion for the police to be called. I'm not going to say the police and the medic weren't short and rude with Zach, but I wonder what his real behavior was that led them to it.
Jim L the police being called is not at all a point of contention with this story. their being called to the lobby was *perfectly reasonable*, as acknowledged by Zach and many others. the issue is that Zach refUSED an ambulance, which is entirely legal, after trying numerous other reasoning tactics (like giving them his license and other important and semi-private information), and was still FORCED into the ambulance regardless. this is a very clear example of someone being shafted for money. I don’t know what Zach did or did not have to pay to the hospital, but the fact that the police did not breathalyze him nor try any of his recommendations (calling his phone, etc), proceeded to call an ambulance and force him into it DESPITE Zach’s legal refusal due to a lack of health insurance is VERY questionable. the fact that he was disrespected by an ornery ambulance worker is just adding fuel to the fire. this story reeeeks of bullshit, and not on Zach’s end - in my opinion. regardless, this is an extremely simple situation for the police to defuse, and Zach still ended up being forced all the way to a hospital. the police had a *choice* here, Zach did not. sounds like bullshit.
Why does every story I've heard about American police usually involve them abusing their power? Like from an outsiders perspective they really come off as bullies at best. I've lived in Britain all my life and never once have I heard them be so bossy and aggressive. I'm not saying our cops are the best in the world or something, and I'm not saying other countries cops dont do bad things but this goes for many people from other countries I know also. Even thinking back to the BLM protests from a while ago, I remember seeing some really awful things that happened with them. Yet I see so many Americans always saying how much they respect their police and how they cant be judged for the actions of one bad cop. I feel pretty safe when seeing a cop passing me on the street here but I dont know if I would in America.
The main difference is probably because guns are more common here and so their training is always see civilizations as possible enemies. So basically they have a us back them mentality. Most cops in the states main insensitive to join is to have power over people. One time, my friend woke me up early and was saying there’s cops raiding the house and of course I thought he was messing with me so I went out his door and turned to corner and there was 5 cops guns drawn at me ready to shoot. They told me later they we’re about to shoot me be careful next time. (My friends mom supposedly stole a badge from a car) I was 16 why was I endanger over that. Happened a few other times where I’m completely innocent and cops are aggressive
Yeah, it doesn't help that a lot of people believe the police can do no wrong and say you should support them and cooperate with them even when it seems like they're not doing the right thing. Toxic attitude. No cop can be held accountable because they're all assumed to be saints even though a lot of them only choose that occupation because it gives them a gun and power over others
@@REDDAWNproject You would die of water intoxication before you drank enough water to affect your BAC. It might help you process the alcohol a little faster but that's about it.
No. At the jail i work at, if you get brought in for the drunk tank we just give you a shitload of peanut butter bags (bag nasties) and some suicide blankets.
EMT here, depends on the state but "implied consent" exists for people in altered consciousness. Police can determine this without a breathalyzer based on slurred speech, vomiting, stumbling, etc. Police don't like to transport intoxicated people in the back of their cars because they don't like cleaning vomit, so they make EMTs take them to hospital. Also, if they had just walked away like you wanted, they would then be liable for your care and no one wants to get sued.
I'm curious what might have happened if Zach *had* made a stink for this. Like he says, he's got quite a following, and that can go a long way; perhaps enough to at least lead to disciplinary action against that belligerent EMT. Not that there'd be any chance addressing the cops' part in this. They could have booted him up and down the street and they'd receive medals for bravery, and all stirring the pot would get you is police harassment.
The worst thing is that the American culture of hating the police has transferred to the UK despite the fact that the police in the UK is far better in virtually every way than American police. As a result British police get a lot of shit for no reason.
Yeah I'm sure nothing like this has ever happened in your country lol. Are you people for real? Some cops do stuff they're not supposed to do in every country. The overwhelming majority of police here aren't like this.
@@idot3331 First off, the overwhelming majority of American police are good. Second, the reason some US cops do bad stuff and are more aggressive here is that being a cop here is way more dangerous. Your cops don't have to worry about getting shot everyday.
@@jacobedwards4747 cops in the uk just have so much more and better training. a friend of mine once saw an arrest made by uk armed police, they were trying to get some guy who was a known pedo and the dude came running at them with knife, you would've thought running at multiple police armed with assault rifles is guaranteed death right? nope, they put him on the ground with one shot to the leg. Don't tell me that in the US that guy would've taken more than 2 steps before being riddled with bullets.
@@robinfiler8707 Yeah bs, if you knew anything about guns you'd know that if you have to use your firearm they aim for center mass because you're much more likely to miss if you aim for the legs or any other part of the body except the torso, then the bullet could possibly ricochet and hit someone else. Being a cop in your country is much easier and safer, you don't have to worry about getting shot like our cops do. Why do you think Northern Ireland is the exception where their police are armed? It's because of all the guns still in circulation from the troubles.
Chris suggesting Zach run from cops, I don’t know if that’s an Irish thing or like “oh it’s not me, so I can I say this” I don’t know, he doesn’t have that common sense
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As a paramedic I can honestly say that Zach was illegally transported to the hospital. If he was alert and oriented and didn't say he was suicidal, they couldn't take him to the hospital. A real medic would of been ecstatic that he didn't want to go to the hospital and would of had Zach sign a refusal form and been on his merry way.
Wing Eater it’s fake most likely then
@@JV-cw8pw probably not. Cops are assholes and most med staff at 8 am don't want to deal with a drunk angry man so they just ride him along through the process as fast as they can
Yeah, I'm employed with the Department of Criminal Justice and I used to worm security at a hospital. Those cops did not follow proper course of action. Granted they're New York cops, police from large metropolitan areas tend not to be reviewed and kept up with as much as in smaller towns because they don't have the time or resources the manage every officer and make sure they are actually using their training. So that's definitely why, but that does not excuse their actions. Though if this was brought to trial I guarantee you they'd get off spotless.
Also the guy in the back of the ambulance *does* have to give him his name, at least if he's an officer or security guard or anything like that. I don't know about hospital staff
I was looking to see if anyone else made this comment. I went through EMT basic schooling and I was thinking this doesn’t seem right or possibly true.
Chris legitimately thought it would’ve been wise to run from the cops. He made it sound so simple by saying “you could’ve just ran between buildings and lost them”. It’s not fucking GTA, Chris!
honestly if they were Garda (Irish police) it probably would've worked.
it’s pretty easy to run from cops in most scenarios. it’s not GTA, asslicker.
@@guitarmaniac004 lol
deluded gamer brainrot moment
wont lie and say if i were in zachs shoes i wouldn't intrusively think of something like chris did myself in the moment lol..
@@HazeLmao I mean we are talking about Zach here , who not the most physically fit guy and also pretty drunk. No way he gonna outrun the cops unless he black.
I am an EMT in California and I can say for certain that the EMT that told Zach to stfu and proceeded to threaten him acted unlawfully and was guilty of violating multiple guidelines that outline an EMT's scope of practice, by transporting Zach to the hospital after Zach tells him that he does not want to go, he does not have insurance, that EMT is guilty of kidnapping. Then with threatening to bash your skull in, he is then guilty of assault, he could've not only lost his job for those instances but lost his license and not been allowed to work as a first responder again
Don’t know about Cali but where I live assault means physical contact with intent to harm or physical threat with intent to harm like swinging an missing, so telling someone you’re going to bash their head isn’t assault. But get this, where I live communicating a threat like telling someone you’re going to hit them actually carries a harsher punishment than actually attempting to harm them.
@@calebbarlow9714 in medical terminology assault is verbal and battery is physical.
My theory is the emt was a fan and recognized Zach so he tried to give him a good story to tell
@@calebbarlow9714 In most US areas assault is limited to threats, both physical and verbal. Battery is the actual act of attacking someone.
@@PodreyJenkin138 Gotta love it when someone calls something stupid, then everything following is factually inaccurate.
Zach experienced some mild abuse of power
Mild is an understatement
@@Real_Kirbo nah def mild, medium is they steal ur shit while drunk and extreme is they beat u
@sometimeslol5578 still inexcusable but by American police standards yeah.
@@THECOSMONAUT100true, moderate abuses of power by them fuck up your day more. This was shitty but pretty minor by their standards
Zach has the best stories, I love him
"I respect cops greatly, but they did threaten to smash my head in because I was locked out of my apartment"
man, that is some serious respect
Did ya miss the part where he said some of them give them all a bad rep? He clearly wouldn't have much respect for the pair of assholes who sent him to that psychotic EMT who threatened him
@@VikingPoodle why are you simping cops on this story of all places
“Cops threatened to bash my head in when I got locked out” is a basic American cop experience
@@Lucifersfursona bro not even 🤣. Most cops are chill
@@Lucifersfursona"one bad experience means theyre all the same and i will generalize everyone of a group"
@@itsjayhIf it's a choice to be part of a group that statistically has been dogshit for ages then yes it's fine to generalize.
You can choose whether or not to be a cop.
NYPD are the worst, the exact same thing has happened to me but they also confiscated clothes and lost my shoes/ shirt before turning me loose in the middle of bushwick with a dead cellphone and scrubs
I think you got straight up jumped.
BFN Valley wooosh
@@burritomaster6000 epic reddit gold moment
@@assaultmarine1464 amogyus
lmao you got fucked and owned dude
One of the only reasons I listen to SleepCast is for Zach
Richez i always check if hes in a ep if not I don't watch
you are both lame
zach does make it a lot better, though
No zacc no sleepy
Oney and Zach make the show, without them the episodes are always underwhelming imo
This made me genuinely angry
Same lmao. Its fine knowing shitty people exist. But the fact that some get away with being shitty is frustating.
Pigs make me genuinely angry to begin with.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 "pigs"
Yeah, I can tell you're a total piece of shit. If you don't have the rationale to realize not all cops are bad it's you who should be called a pig.
He brought that on himself.
Psychobum91932 ok, statist
I wonder if the EMT laughs at Smiling Friends, not knowing the guy who he threatened to bash his face in was the guy who made it
Don't be silly, the moment Charlie speaks the guy'd know "That's the guy I harassed in an ambulance that one night"
It sucks to say. But they may have thought zack was drunker than he actually was because of his voice.
Not saying what they did was in any way justifiable. But it is a possibility
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@@kittykatz4448 oh heck oops-
@@ghostlymelody834 xD
That’s exactly what I was thinking
That's actually a really good point.
Zach going through all of this and still talking about how he respects cops is insane.
Some folks are tamed.
I have a good friend in the police department. He agrees that the bad reputation is a problem when confronting people but he said he can't help but feel for those who were harmed in police brutality. They started a new training course to ensure nobody gets hurt. Basically just retreat from a suspect until you can take them down without using a gun. Back yourself up to more patrols and taser the suspect. If the suspect is unarmed just keep your distance. If no threat has been found approach them and pump them for information.
He also said if a police officer is being friendly you must keep your guard up. They are trying to trap you in admitting you MIGHT have commited a crime.
Like tasers have never killed anyone...
@@cooldud7071statistically, what is the chance of getting killed by a taser vs getting killed by a gun?
Zach should actually animate this
A lot of cops bend or outright break laws for their own convenience most of those that do also cannot accept even the tiniest idea that they are in the wrong at all.
Narcissism, power and a weapon, the recipe for disaster if i've ever heard it
Because society hail's pigs as heroes and then they use that to feed their narcissism and ego. Also they know if they're caught breaking the law, even murder, they get a slap on the wrist at most.
Acab
i hope zach is an f the pigs guy now
*DRUNK ZACH ASSERTED DOMINANCE*
I work in the ER in NYS, you have no idea how common these incidents are...
im gonna draw you is something i never thought could be said as a threat
You have to add "pregnant" to the end of that phrase
I legitimately got angry listening to what they did to Zach here. The cops in Zach's case escalated the situation for NO GOOD REASON.
I want more then anything for there to be a smiling friends episode that is just Charlie going through this. And he models the EMT exactly as he remembers the guy looking
Same thing happened to me when I was fucked up and lucid. Was forced to go to the hospital and told everyone I had no money or insurance and wasn't allowed to leave. They tried to force me to have several Iv's which would have been hundreds more of dollars. They made me stay for several hours and tried to make stay several more. I'm still fighting the bills right now.
Sovereign Snorlax
I hope you learned your lesson and never get fucked up again
Unless you're with friends
ImmaLittlePip I was.
You didn't have to pay did you?
ImmaLittlePip Learned his lesson? He did nothing wrong, he was forced into the hospital dumbass.
@@Henryduckfan63 Imma thought he was not with friends, because why would friends allow him to have that happen to him.
If you get really fucked up always do it with people you trust.
I thought it said Cory put Zach in an ambulance, and I imagined sad imagery of Cory holding a dying Zach it was the funniest thing
Like Batman holding Joker at the end of Arkham City lmfao
I would have immediately got a lawyer and sued those cops the next day if it happened to me
Not being rude to zach, but if you can't afford 2k ambulance, I'm not sure suing them is any cheaper
@@PodreyJenkin138 Jenkins!
“You’re lucky you have this.”
The fact I saw your comment as he said it 😂
I feel my heart genuinely beating hard listening to this. I hate the types of people who if given any modicum of authority, think they are above their own rules, and get off on treating people like shit. I hope those two cops and (possible) EMT all later got fired for acting in a similar fashion. Like Zach I'm not a 'fuck the pigs' guy, but I am a 'fuck the pigs who act like pigs' guy.
Every time he says back take a shot
Yeah. That way we can go reenact the story
Zach made the right choice not running, evading would be a felony instead of being innocent and dealing with shit people
here's the thing.WHY in any country should running from people who are in the wrong, who wrongly brought you to a hospital, expecting an an average civillian to pay medical bills which every US citizen knows is impossible, be a felony? i'd cheer for zach
Running on foot is a class A misdemeanor. It's only a felony if by vehicle.
Not if you get away lol
3 years later, but legally wouldn't it not be evading if he wasn't detained in the first place?
I’m willing to bet that multiple people in the NYC local government own shares of that hospital.
Tell cops to grab random drunks, hire unqualified thugs as EMTs to intimidate people into compliance, and then put them through every unnecessary test and “treatment” to rack up their medical bill.
it's all over the place in America. hospitals are here to collect money, not to help people.
Oh yes! My favourite part of sleepy cabin, thank you soo much for the upload
Thanks dad.
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I DIED on the part where Zac wiped his ass on the bedsheets 😂
I feel like this is my first time hearing this and obviously I'm late. But isn't this 100% what drunk tanks are for?
This EXACTLY what they're for. Even if the local precinct's detox box was full they still had no right to do what they did to Zach. As a matter of fact, what they did was illegal and the same goes for the shitbag EMT. Zach could fight the bill and also counter sue. However, I'm not a lawyer so take what I say with a grain of salt
I’m sure Otis would have scooted over for Zach
Dude this sounds like such a dumb pointless incident. I got really drunk the night before thanksgiving and was literally hands and knees vomiting on the side of a hill at 130 in the morning. An ambulance showed up and cops because i was being so loud i guess. I just remember looking up. Seeing them they asked me if i needed to go to the hospital and the cops were like telling me to get in. And i just looked up said. "Nah im fine im going home just give me a minute" vomited once more. Stood up and stumbled down the hill and spent 3 hours to walk what should have been 10 minutes because i kept stopping to give my legs a break. Literally i think i was probably more pissed than zach here but i just refused the offer and went home and thats it. Maybe it has to do with the fact that im in canada but still this seems like a bullshit scenario. Feel bad for zach
It has to do with you being lucky, Canada's usually even worse about this kind of thing.
Canada's healthcare system isn't designed to make money, unlike the US
That EMT sounded very unprofessional, stunned he was allowed to be in the back of an ambulance with that attitude
I've been taken to the hospital for public drunkenness or some malarky once (basically I went home from a party visibly drunk, and had the rotten luck of tripping and falling on my face just when a police car went by, so it seemed like I was totally trashed), and while the policemen who "caught" me were almost friendly and had more like a "sorry man, rules are rules" kind of attitude, the EMT guy was very rude, abrasive and threatening. So yeah, there ARE medical professionals who act like total asshats.
My favorite part is when he wiped his ass on the hospital bedsheets
I wonder if those guys are watching this right now
The obvious lesson here, which I hope Zach absorbed, is that it doesn't matter how much you trust the police or take their side. There are officers who will wrong you and transport you against your will or worse everywhere no matter who you are.
A lot of Cops cut so many corners and don’t know the fucking laws
Reminds me of that one twitter post asking if its illegal to stop past the stop bar, only to show a police car doing the exact thing
Or my buddy who's parents are both cops and drive like maniacs when behind the wheel, off duty
Very similar thing happened to me. Cops told me if I went with them to the hospital I wouldn't be charged a thing and a doctor would see me. I sat around for 8 hours and no doctor came, they took my blood without my permission, and then told me the doctor forgot about me but he'd be in tomorrow. So sleep tight. No doctor ever showed up to talk to me and I signed myself out of the hospital. Then a couple weeks later the hospital billed me for several thousands of dollars. They also wouldn't let me use the bathroom to pee while I was there "Because Covid".
Zach taking medical bill advice from the school of sam hyde
Zach sounds kind of like when you plug your nose.
Yeah he has a fucked up nasal/ throat thing
Zach was born without sinuses. His nose is just a fleshy useless lump.
I had a middle* ear infection and they put 'FALL RISK' on me.
Well yeah, ear infections can fuck with your equilibrium and throw your balance off. That actually makes alot of sense.
Yeah the inner ear is really important for balance
John Stonik calm down
John Stonik ok intellectual lmao
Actually my balance was just fine that day since it was a middle ear infection, not an inner ear. I shoulda specified @@callmeblue6069
I appreciate that Zach and the rest of the gang still have respect for EMT's and the police after Zach's little adventure. Too often people take one example like this to justify their hatred of cops and EMT's. That said, every single cop and emt in this little story should be fired.
I think it should be common sense to just not trust law enforcement. Let them be to do their jobs but don't make the mistake of thinking they care about you or are your friends.
Who hates EMTs?
@@Opheliakami never really had an issue with any EMTs. Nurses though, oh boy I've had a lot of experiences with nurses who were assholes.
@@McFwoupson
Yeah, the medical system is genuinely worse than the legal system, especially if you’re an army veteran that needs some medical care,
@@codafett Don't fuck with law enforcement and normally they won't fuck with you?
Zach should've drawn the EMT guy and sued the police for kidnapping him then showed the judge the drawing of the EMT guy so they can identify him so he can lose his job
"Can you describe the suspect?"
"Yeah he looked like the gay dad from American Beauty."
This is old, but in the bay area of CA, i found our a 4 year relationship i was being cheated on while staying at her house, i walked out and went on a journey heavily drinking abd threw the bottle away in a can, and to finally calm myself; i laid myself down on a sidewalk thats not normally used, and listened to my music and look at the stars (calm neighborhood with near no lights) and after 20 mins i saq flashing lights and got quesriojes by ambukance for about 20 mins, and i was honest about my situation, and they said i could go back with them to the hospital or tell the police i was drunk in public
I get angry every time I listen to this story.
Jesus Christ, Chris’ terrible ideas
_JUST RUN FOR IT_
Irish.
This sounds like a fuckin scheme to steal Zach’s kidneys or some shit.
Imagine if those people were pretending to be actual officers and had a fake ambulance.
It’s genuinely scaring knowing that these people are supposed to keep the country orderly
Why do you think people don't trust cops anymore? Every day we find out how normal it is for men in uniform to do illegal shit like this for kicks.
Never going to drink out.
Not worth the risk.
Had a very similar experience. The only difference was the emt in the back of the truck was decently cool. I looked at him and said “man... this blows” and all he said was “yeah... I know.”
Between this and his “tar-black shit” hospital story, Zach really should work some of this into a future Smiling Friends episode.
Zach from Kansas? Beast mode
This background music sounds eerily similar to two girls one cup
Thanks for reminding us of that glimpse into Hell.
This story was very interesting but very anger inducing
This was making both laugh and get extremely pissed! This is literally one of the many reasons I don't trust cops
Make sure you remember the part where Zach says that the many good cops get a bad rep because of the few shit ones.
I am an EMT in NYC and I can tell you that person who said that they’ll beat you up is likely true. Many EMT have this bs that they hate drunks and homless and treat them wrong.
This is the best
how can you still have respect for cops after an experience like that
Zack needs to make Pim re-live these events
next on sleepy cabin, zach sues the city
Zach 'Copkiller' Hadel
Friendly reminder that cops are trained how to escalate and very rarely are trained how to de-escalate
Also in NYC intoxicated individuals no matter if alert and fully with it, can be taken to hospital under the discretion of of PD and EMS based on if the patient is a danger to self, such as an unsteady gait. EMS will advise the patient but if they run we can’t do anything but if PD is with us we will detain you.
That's gay
this has legit happened to me several times, pulled it up again cause it just happened again. its the most infuriating thing. i was five minutes away from my house; ended up in the hospital the whole day, then had to walk home several miles from 9pm to midnight.
Is this something they charge you for? They ignored him about the insurance and the bill, and they didnt have his address, I really wonder if he could get charged for it
@@meggang9566 maybe public intoxication but I think they have guidelines for charging that like an officer has to get your BAC before they book you in a jail cell or police station.
This is why you should always keep a spare key in your wallet.
I understand the cops line of thinking, but if i was there i would humor him, I would call the number like what’s he gonna do there’s two cops right there
Wait, in america they expect you to pay for the ambulance? What a hellhole. What the hell do your taxes even pay for?
Yeah america is a hell hole, good one my fellow iranian
Mecha Sonic 1994 America may not be the worst country, doesn’t mean it’s not shit
@Crisbideioz so then wouldn't it be better spent on socialising health care?
I swear y'all complain about this shit and have no alternative for where the money should go to
Democrat incompetence.
@@stevenwall2010 It's objectively not a shit country, we rank higher than most European countries in standard of living and we take in the most immigrants.
Fuck kinda grateful to be living in Australia and not worry about this shit, but then we do pay a fuck ton of taxes..
If the cops won’t kill you the taxes will
This is why you never talk to the police, ever, and you don't consent to any searches or seizures
Sounds like the but from Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep where Deckard is taken to a police department run by the androids. I plan on going into law enforcement, and the officers were probably either power-tripping or were given some kind of mandate by their union to arrest a certain number of people. A lot of shitty cop behavior is due to union mandates, but I don't know if that PD enforced unionization.
Tacityoshi1234 there is no "union mandate". I hope you dont get into law enforcement because you are dumb. If anything police let stuff go sometimes to make their crime rates look lower than they actually are, giving the image that they are doing a good job.
@DontListen ToMe I'm not listening to you.
CoolMan Caravan there are definitely quotas cops have to fill, because of the privatization of prisons and mandates. It’s the reason tickets given by cops increases exponentially in the last week of the month. I hope you don’t look at everything police do through rose tinted glasses
please don’t go into law enforcement
It’s messed up that people are defending the cops. He had a right to refuse the ambulance. Yes he was drunk and got sick but he wasn’t being violent. If they would’ve just checked with someone in the building about the address it would’ve easily been solved.
Cops are never ever looking out for you
ZACH IS FROM KANSAS!!!!!!!!
is there some kind of thing going on in the US where they force people into ambulances so that they can charge them? Seems like the only place where that would make a profit.
Yeah
Every time Zach goes to the hospital lol
Myself and two friends got caught smoking weed in one of our parked cars. They tried to give the guy sitting in the driver’s seat a DUI. They tried to see if any of us were processing oil by straight up asking if we knew how to make oil. They tried to say I knowingly left out admitting to having a bowl on me after I gave up all my belongings to them. They had a dog come and check the car and they didn’t find the bowl, it was found days later by the owner of the car. They also started trying to be real friendly during our detainment; one of my friends started replying and I was worried my friend was gonna incriminate himself or all three of us. We each got slapped with a $150 possession ticket, not terrible but still was a ridiculous situation.
Imagine needing insurance for healthcare
I am crazy and the Texas police have never ever talked to me this way or ambulance and I've done much much worse. NYPD is weird.
Zach is a blessing. Fucking ridiculous
I feel bad but this is fucking hilarious
Sleepycast boi jus wanna sleep
man as much as I dislike rent in Canada this sounds like a nightmare thank god I don't live there
This is why you can't trust the police. Zach was in the wrong for throwing up all over an apartment lobby, but the police were also in the wrong. They didn't even try to help Zach besides throwing him into an ambulance. All he really needed was a glass of water and some bread to get his bearings. Or how about even a ride to his friends house, or try to call his friend or girlfriend? Nope, throw them into some kind of prison and move along
this story made me so genuinely angry that i had to pause several times
From a cops perspective I imagine his voice sounds like hes coming down from a weekend long coke bender not to mention that they thought his girlfriend kicked him out the apartment adds to that story. Still fucked up what happened to him, when I was in the drunk tank they stole my DL and my debit card and kept tryna argue with me while I was drunk asf I woke up later like wow these guys go to work to argue with drunks lmao
Cops are great..........
Shoulda sued the shit outta PD and Medical
A public intoxication arrest doesn't require a breathalyzer. Going to the hospital to be sobered up is preferable to being arrested.
Also, it sounds like he was considerably more drunk than he remembers.
Maybe in most other Country's that would be the case, but in lieu of the US' fucked up health care system I think Zach was completely in the right. Being drunk and disruptive in public, particularly in the day is one thing ( which definitely should be punishable), but Zach wasn't doing that, he was wandering home from a night out with friends. Something practically every young adult in the civilized world has done at some point or another.
Besides, no matter how drunk Zach was I doubt he's misremembering the main details of how the night went down. The medical and security workers were being completely unprofessional and were 100% in the wrong.
But he was though. While he may not have been outside he was still in the public eye. He was in the lobby of his apartment vomiting and causing enough of a commotion for the police to be called.
I'm not going to say the police and the medic weren't short and rude with Zach, but I wonder what his real behavior was that led them to it.
They were also told about his address and his mobile number and they ignored all of these without a check
Jim L what the fuck is wrong with you
Jim L
the police being called is not at all a point of contention with this story. their being called to the lobby was *perfectly reasonable*, as acknowledged by Zach and many others.
the issue is that Zach refUSED an ambulance, which is entirely legal, after trying numerous other reasoning tactics (like giving them his license and other important and semi-private information), and was still FORCED into the ambulance regardless.
this is a very clear example of someone being shafted for money. I don’t know what Zach did or did not have to pay to the hospital, but the fact that the police did not breathalyze him nor try any of his recommendations (calling his phone, etc), proceeded to call an ambulance and force him into it DESPITE Zach’s legal refusal due to a lack of health insurance is VERY questionable. the fact that he was disrespected by an ornery ambulance worker is just adding fuel to the fire.
this story reeeeks of bullshit, and not on Zach’s end - in my opinion. regardless, this is an extremely simple situation for the police to defuse, and Zach still ended up being forced all the way to a hospital. the police had a *choice* here, Zach did not. sounds like bullshit.
I think he was MK'd lol
Why does every story I've heard about American police usually involve them abusing their power? Like from an outsiders perspective they really come off as bullies at best. I've lived in Britain all my life and never once have I heard them be so bossy and aggressive. I'm not saying our cops are the best in the world or something, and I'm not saying other countries cops dont do bad things but this goes for many people from other countries I know also. Even thinking back to the BLM protests from a while ago, I remember seeing some really awful things that happened with them. Yet I see so many Americans always saying how much they respect their police and how they cant be judged for the actions of one bad cop. I feel pretty safe when seeing a cop passing me on the street here but I dont know if I would in America.
The main difference is probably because guns are more common here and so their training is always see civilizations as possible enemies. So basically they have a us back them mentality.
Most cops in the states main insensitive to join is to have power over people.
One time, my friend woke me up early and was saying there’s cops raiding the house and of course I thought he was messing with me so I went out his door and turned to corner and there was 5 cops guns drawn at me ready to shoot. They told me later they we’re about to shoot me be careful next time. (My friends mom supposedly stole a badge from a car) I was 16 why was I endanger over that.
Happened a few other times where I’m completely innocent and cops are aggressive
Yeah, it doesn't help that a lot of people believe the police can do no wrong and say you should support them and cooperate with them even when it seems like they're not doing the right thing. Toxic attitude. No cop can be held accountable because they're all assumed to be saints even though a lot of them only choose that occupation because it gives them a gun and power over others
Any updates on this story?
That is crazy
Does ginger-ale sober you up? Never heard of that.
No. Technically nothing sobers you up because nothing can remove the alcohol from your blood. They give ginger ale obviously for nausea.
@@boomkablamo gallons of water to help dilute the alcohol
@@REDDAWNproject You would die of water intoxication before you drank enough water to affect your BAC. It might help you process the alcohol a little faster but that's about it.
@@boomkablamo fair enough. but speeding up the process will help you sober up faster
No. At the jail i work at, if you get brought in for the drunk tank we just give you a shitload of peanut butter bags (bag nasties) and some suicide blankets.
EMT here, depends on the state but "implied consent" exists for people in altered consciousness. Police can determine this without a breathalyzer based on slurred speech, vomiting, stumbling, etc. Police don't like to transport intoxicated people in the back of their cars because they don't like cleaning vomit, so they make EMTs take them to hospital. Also, if they had just walked away like you wanted, they would then be liable for your care and no one wants to get sued.
Yeah, then threaten to bash his skull in in the ambulance. Lol.
I'm curious what might have happened if Zach *had* made a stink for this. Like he says, he's got quite a following, and that can go a long way; perhaps enough to at least lead to disciplinary action against that belligerent EMT.
Not that there'd be any chance addressing the cops' part in this. They could have booted him up and down the street and they'd receive medals for bravery, and all stirring the pot would get you is police harassment.
I'm glad I live in the UK just because at least I know shit like this won't happen to me
The worst thing is that the American culture of hating the police has transferred to the UK despite the fact that the police in the UK is far better in virtually every way than American police. As a result British police get a lot of shit for no reason.
Yeah I'm sure nothing like this has ever happened in your country lol. Are you people for real? Some cops do stuff they're not supposed to do in every country. The overwhelming majority of police here aren't like this.
@@idot3331 First off, the overwhelming majority of American police are good. Second, the reason some US cops do bad stuff and are more aggressive here is that being a cop here is way more dangerous. Your cops don't have to worry about getting shot everyday.
@@jacobedwards4747 cops in the uk just have so much more and better training. a friend of mine once saw an arrest made by uk armed police, they were trying to get some guy who was a known pedo and the dude came running at them with knife, you would've thought running at multiple police armed with assault rifles is guaranteed death right? nope, they put him on the ground with one shot to the leg. Don't tell me that in the US that guy would've taken more than 2 steps before being riddled with bullets.
@@robinfiler8707 Yeah bs, if you knew anything about guns you'd know that if you have to use your firearm they aim for center mass because you're much more likely to miss if you aim for the legs or any other part of the body except the torso, then the bullet could possibly ricochet and hit someone else. Being a cop in your country is much easier and safer, you don't have to worry about getting shot like our cops do. Why do you think Northern Ireland is the exception where their police are armed? It's because of all the guns still in circulation from the troubles.
Chris suggesting Zach run from cops, I don’t know if that’s an Irish thing or like “oh it’s not me, so I can I say this” I don’t know, he doesn’t have that common sense