obviously he doesn't have a lot of achievements because we all know the story. but in term of individual level...he is among the best in the history of the game. there is no doubt for those who saw him play...
Penny had better vision and was a more gifted /imaginative / flair passer than all the players praised today for their playmaking skills. That includes lebron and doncic.
Kobe had great career and had his historic moments! It took him while though to finish flourishing and blossom! Hardaway was there from time he entered nba but hardships and injuries ruined his career! He was in top three players until that happened and hardaway you should be proud of where you at today and accomplished overall In your life!
@anthonylockhart6120 yeah so let's play this game. Penny at his peak (96 season) vs Kobe at the same age, which would be his 2003 season. 2003 Kobe wipes the floor with 96 Penny. He averaged 30/7/6 against the same defense and rules as Penny. Yall dudes are terrible for real.
A lot of people underestimated Orlando thinking they were a lottery team or something after Shaq left. They obviously weren't the same without him but they still had enough talent to compete with anyone when healthy.
daripper4u That Miami team was never as dominant in the playoffs as they were in the regular season they kept getting knocked out the playoffs by the Knicks and they only got past them that year because Ewing and Houston were suspended in G6.
I remember watching this live in Orlando. I was a huge Penny fan. To me this was his best rythm I've seen him in. He was on fire through those games. It's to bad he got hurt that next year he was becoming one of the leagues elite.
T-Mac didnt have the footwork or court vision of Penny and sure didnt have the moves Penny had and didnt have the post up game Penny had only think they had were siimilar builds but thats where the comparisons end Penny was more of Magic/Iceman Gervin/Jordan hybrid he was so explosive and smooth with it and was extremely bouncy with a next level basketball IQ
1:50-1:55 "He had a three, and he decided to be aggressive and take it to the basket, and he's being rewarded." Words you will never hear in today's NBA, which is sad.
it was a previlege to have watched Penny played when he was in Orlando. what could've been if he didn't get hurt OR if the medical technology was better at that time. He was quicker and more explosive than Kobe in his prime for sure and stronger than TMac.
FrankW1029 wtf.... penny was tmac level.. but not kobe..lol go watch prime Kobe, his first step is quicker than mj.. Kobe fried top elite defenders.. penny was very good way better than lebron.. but he ain't on Kobe level
Charles Berry lol go watch their prime.. u gotta be stupid..kobe had streetball, point guard like handles bruh.. penny had exceptional handles but he ain't never crossed like Kobe, .. or had quickness like kobe, kobe dropped players and broke ankles with his moves... y'all smoking some real shit, the hate is real... but I'll give u that penny had more moves and stuff than tmac.. Kobe was able to out play tmac by pure skills alone.. bcuz tmac had all the physical advantage over Kobe
Vang Xiong you the one stupid thinking that! Hardaway was better and was great right off the bat and more impactful than Kobe! There more i can say, but I not going to waste my breath on u
Charles Berry lol ur fkin dumb... u can't say that.. bcuz Kobe as a rookie played garbage minute.. so by ur standard everybody was better than Kobe???? Cuz Kobe played 3min garbage times first 2 season... Ur fkin dumb bruh... different situations
The next season without shaq without the nagging injuries I could’ve seen a leap for penny something like 24.8ppg 5.5rpg 8.3apg He’d carried Orlando and eventually someone would have been not worried if he had to bad of a injury problem to sign and we’d put something together around penny
Kobe good player and all, but did not here the full package right it is the gate and also was not a player who made his teammates better, penny hardaway was
This has happened many times, nothing new... I remember when James Toney beat John Ruiz for the WBA Heavyweight title, and then popped for PED's... The win was turned to a No Contest & Ruiz was once again the WBA Champion..
@Domini478 still not on that level? i'm not talking about jordan,but he is better than today's superstars for example. who was better than him at the time at his positions from 95 to 98?
@0:50 Its be nice if Penny finished his career a 25 pt 10 ast guy. He had potential for both and he would have been the first of that kind If Orlando keeps Shaq through 2004 like LA.... I think Penny matures into a 25 and 10 guy by 97 or 98
@Domini478 lol man,you annoyed me at first but now you make me laugh. all nba first team is an individual award,it means that you are the best at your position in the whole league...you're welcome...
Shaq & Penny Era 1993 Orlando Magic 41-41, 9th seed in the East.... 1993 first round #1 New York vs #8 Indiana [Knicks win 3-1] #2 Chicago vs #7 Atlanta [Bulls win 3-0] 1994 Orlando Magic 50-32, 4th seed in the East.... 1994 first round #4 Orlando vs #5 Indiana [Pacers win 3-0] Indiana wins next round 4-2 over #1 Atlanta 1995 Orlando Magic 57-25, 1st seed in the East.... 1995 first round #1 Orlando vs #8 Boston [Magic win 3-1] Orlando 1-1 @ home, 2-0 @ Boston Garden, Game 1 Orlando defeats Boston 124-77 greatest ass whooping ever given to a Celtics team , at least up until 1995. The Magic win the last two games played in Boston Garden history. 1995 ECSF SHAQ vs AIR #1 Orlando vs #5 Chicago [Magic win 4-2] Orlando 1-1 @ home in first two, Nick Andersen is hero and strips Air Jordan out of the no.45 then splits 1-1 in Chicago's United Center. Magic win games 5 and 6 and Horace Grant walks away champion in Chicago @ Jordan and Pippens expense. 1995 ECF SHAQ vs REGGIE #1 Orlando vs #2 Indiana [Magic win 4-3] Orlando goes 4-0 @ home and 0-3 on the road vs Indiana. Orlando gets revenge on '94 Pacers. Magic are 1995 Eastern Conference Champions. 1995 NBA Finals SHAQ vs HAKEEM the DREAM #1 Orlando vs #6 Houston [Rockets win 4-0] Orlando jumps out to 20 point lead in first half vs Houston. Then Houston chips away to 11 point deficit @ halftime. Then game is see saw and high scoring and tight until 4th qtr and overtime. Nick Andersen plays goat before G.O.A.T meant "greatest of all time." Anderson misses 4 straight free throws, Kenny Smith hits a three in Penny's eye, Drexler makes last second drive in Overtime , he misses, Hakeem tips in buzzer beater, Houston steals Game 1 and shocks and overwhelms Orlando to win 4 straight and back to back titles. Orlando goes 0-2 @ home and 0-2 in Houston. 1996 Orlando Magic 60-22, 2nd seed in the East.... 1996 first round SHAQ & PENNY vs G. HILL #2 Orlando vs #7 Detroit [Magic win 3-0] first series sweep for Orlando. 1996 ECSF SHAQ & PENNY vs Laettner/S. Smith/Mookie #2 Orlando vs #6 Atlanta [Magic win 4-1] Orlando is up 3-0 before splitting game 4 and 5. 3-0 @ home' 1-1 on the road in Atlanta. 1996 ECF ☆ SHAQ & PENNY ☆ vs ☆ AIR JORDAN & AIR PIPPEN & RODMAN'S WORM ☆ #2 Orlando vs #1 Chicago [Bulls sweep 4-0] Jordan and the 72-10 Bulls take back their 1993 EC crown and keep it until 1998. Chicago finishes 87-13 to win their 4th NBA crown in 6 years. Orlando loses SHAQ to Los Angeles in free agency and their own front office stupidity as they insult SHAQ , one of the three to five best players of the mid to late 90's. 1997 Orlando is Penny Hardaway's team and their are down 0-2 in the 1997 EC first round and on the cusp of being swept out of the playoffs for the fourth straight postseason. #7 Orlando vs #2 Miami. PENNY vs ZO MOURNING. Magic 88 - Heat 75 Penny 42 pts, 8 rebs, 2 ast, 16/30 shooting, 1/4 from three, 9/10 FT's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Penny is THE BEST ! He is my all time favorite.
AGREED... Didn't have the best career but Thee BEST I've EVER saw...
@@alanduff1054 You are DAMN Right!
@@alanduff1054 I still have several Basket Ball Card that I collected about 25 years ago and it is one of my treasure.
@@juckrain01 Congrats bro...
@@juckrain01 I get it wrong SOME times but this one I'm CERTAIN....
obviously he doesn't have a lot of achievements because we all know the story.
but in term of individual level...he is among the best in the history of the game.
there is no doubt for those who saw him play...
Penny had better vision and was a more gifted /imaginative / flair passer than all the players praised today for their playmaking skills. That includes lebron and doncic.
No him and lebron is neck to neck I’d edge it to penny but barley
@@Jags4Life Penny's passes were way more imaginative/artistic/flashy
@@chickhearn4ever779 This for sure.
The way he viciously destroyed opposing players should be considered cruel and unusual punishment, penny had such amazing talent.
Kobe had great career and had his historic moments! It took him while though to finish flourishing and blossom! Hardaway was there from time he entered nba but hardships and injuries ruined his career! He was in top three players until that happened and hardaway you should be proud of where you at today and accomplished overall In your life!
Kobe was also 18 in 96-97. He was hella younger than Penny
@@alecsanderhamilton9224 does not matter
@@alecsanderhamilton9224penny was only 25-26 in 96-97
@anthonylockhart6120 yeah so let's play this game. Penny at his peak (96 season) vs Kobe at the same age, which would be his 2003 season. 2003 Kobe wipes the floor with 96 Penny. He averaged 30/7/6 against the same defense and rules as Penny. Yall dudes are terrible for real.
@@elbowgang9715no lies detected here.
Wow, score-first Penny was scary. Literally unguardable. Too fast for most defenders, too skilled.
Without their starting PF or C, Penny took that team to Game 5 against a championship level Heat.
A lot of people underestimated Orlando thinking they were a lottery team or something after Shaq left. They obviously weren't the same without him but they still had enough talent to compete with anyone when healthy.
Chris M Chris M This Orlando team could not have competed against Miami with:
Tim Hardaway
Alonzo Mourning
Jamaal Mashburn
PJ Brown
daripper4u That Miami team was never as dominant in the playoffs as they were in the regular season they kept getting knocked out the playoffs by the Knicks and they only got past them that year because Ewing and Houston were suspended in G6.
Chris M correct only reason they won the 97 series NY was up 3-1 before the brawl game.
@@ChrisM07 true and exactly! And with hardaway at the helm, they took it to the hear! He makes his surrounding players better!
I remember watching this live in Orlando. I was a huge Penny fan. To me this was his best rythm I've seen him in. He was on fire through those games. It's to bad he got hurt that next year he was becoming one of the leagues elite.
Anfernee was always outstanding in the battles of the Hardaways.
Imagine if they played together in Golden State. Could have been the Splash Brothers before Steph and Klay
Michael Eyob GS blew that one big time
The Florida Hardaways.
@@supervegito8513 Lol, but if would have been the Crossover Hardaway brothas.
The BEST basketball player I ever saw...
Penny is a mix of Magic and TMac!
AND Jordan...
Penny idolize his game after Magic and TMac idolize his game after Penny.
T-Mac didnt have the footwork or court vision of Penny and sure didnt have the moves Penny had and didnt have the post up game Penny had only think they had were siimilar builds but thats where the comparisons end Penny was more of Magic/Iceman Gervin/Jordan hybrid he was so explosive and smooth with it and was extremely bouncy with a next level basketball IQ
thank you.good to see someone who knows what he is talking about.
1:50-1:55 "He had a three, and he decided to be aggressive and take it to the basket, and he's being rewarded."
Words you will never hear in today's NBA, which is sad.
Penny was sooooooooooo gifted . I wish he would've stayed healthy . I'd choose him over Kobe any day .
Me too
Same here.
I'm satisfied cuz of mournings 17 pt 17 reb stats n this game
It's always crazy to hear Doc Rivers old voice
So unbelievable!!
it was a previlege to have watched Penny played when he was in Orlando. what could've been if he didn't get hurt OR if the medical technology was better at that time. He was quicker and more explosive than Kobe in his prime for sure and stronger than TMac.
FrankW1029 wtf.... penny was tmac level.. but not kobe..lol go watch prime Kobe, his first step is quicker than mj.. Kobe fried top elite defenders.. penny was very good way better than lebron.. but he ain't on Kobe level
Vang Xiong idiot hardaway was better than Kobe before injuries messed up his career!
Charles Berry lol go watch their prime.. u gotta be stupid..kobe had streetball, point guard like handles bruh.. penny had exceptional handles but he ain't never crossed like Kobe, .. or had quickness like kobe, kobe dropped players and broke ankles with his moves... y'all smoking some real shit, the hate is real... but I'll give u that penny had more moves and stuff than tmac.. Kobe was able to out play tmac by pure skills alone.. bcuz tmac had all the physical advantage over Kobe
Vang Xiong you the one stupid thinking that! Hardaway was better and was great right off the bat and more impactful than Kobe! There more i can say, but I not going to waste my breath on u
Charles Berry lol ur fkin dumb... u can't say that.. bcuz Kobe as a rookie played garbage minute.. so by ur standard everybody was better than Kobe???? Cuz Kobe played 3min garbage times first 2 season... Ur fkin dumb bruh... different situations
Anyone watch game 4? Was it Tim Hardaway that got his ankles broken again?
Toomba43 yes he did and more than once
Wow Tim Hardaway shot by a sniper at 1:35
Hahahaha yeah
kingbooty 🤣🤣
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That was just Penny bustin that bitches kankles up
what a talent~!!
@Domini478
i'am not talking about achievement,i'm talking about his game level.
the BEST
The next season without shaq without the nagging injuries I could’ve seen a leap for penny something like
24.8ppg
5.5rpg
8.3apg
He’d carried Orlando and eventually someone would have been not worried if he had to bad of a injury problem to sign and we’d put something together around penny
my all time best PG package，only player Jersey i bought. thats a shame not even see his full potential yet till the down side hit us hard.
Penny was TMac before TMac
Tmac, Magic AND Jordan..
T-Mac idolized his game after Penny.
Kobe good player and all, but did not here the full package right it is the gate and also was not a player who made his teammates better, penny hardaway was
How did u actually edit this comment ? Lmao
Pennnnnnnnnnnny.................
Pennnyyyyyyyyyyyyy......
Damn, he fucked Timmy up...
Timmy still won the series.
penny best after jordan
This has happened many times, nothing new...
I remember when James Toney beat John Ruiz for the WBA Heavyweight title, and then popped for PED's... The win was turned to a No Contest & Ruiz was once again the WBA Champion..
Penny was something special… injuries unfortunately slowed him down, sometimes I wonder what could’ve been
*The changing of the guards when Miami Heat became the basketball team of Florida.*
He was the greatest player for the Magic. He played really good, without Shaq.
*The battle of the Florida Hardaways.*
@Domini478
still not on that level?
i'm not talking about jordan,but he is better than today's superstars for example.
who was better than him at the time at his positions from 95 to 98?
@0:50
Its be nice if Penny finished his career a 25 pt 10 ast guy. He had potential for both and he would have been the first of that kind
If Orlando keeps Shaq through 2004 like LA.... I think Penny matures into a 25 and 10 guy by 97 or 98
He should’ve gotten more rebounds and bulked up a bit. Then he would’ve been a triple double guy
He played like Memphis state Penny!
He can put 42 points. He had lots of 40 point games.
@Domini478
lol man,you annoyed me at first but now you make me laugh.
all nba first team is an individual award,it means that you are the best at your position in the whole league...you're welcome...
He really needed Shaq to help him in the playoffs. They wish Shaq was still with the Magic.
His career was just peaking, but was dogged by injuries. Sad and unfortunate.
@ Isaiah Hawkes: but he is not.
Shaq & Penny Era
1993 Orlando Magic 41-41, 9th seed in the East.... 1993 first round #1 New York vs #8 Indiana [Knicks win 3-1] #2 Chicago vs #7 Atlanta [Bulls win 3-0]
1994 Orlando Magic 50-32, 4th seed in the East.... 1994 first round
#4 Orlando vs #5 Indiana [Pacers win 3-0] Indiana wins next round 4-2 over #1 Atlanta
1995 Orlando Magic 57-25, 1st seed in the East.... 1995 first round
#1 Orlando vs #8 Boston [Magic win 3-1] Orlando 1-1 @ home, 2-0 @ Boston Garden, Game 1 Orlando defeats Boston 124-77 greatest ass whooping ever given to a Celtics team , at least up until 1995. The Magic win the last two games played in Boston Garden history. 1995 ECSF SHAQ vs AIR #1 Orlando vs #5 Chicago [Magic win 4-2] Orlando 1-1 @ home in first two, Nick Andersen is hero and strips Air Jordan out of the no.45 then splits 1-1 in Chicago's United Center. Magic win games 5 and 6 and Horace Grant walks away champion in Chicago @ Jordan and Pippens expense. 1995 ECF SHAQ vs REGGIE #1 Orlando vs #2 Indiana [Magic win 4-3] Orlando goes 4-0 @ home and 0-3 on the road vs Indiana. Orlando gets revenge on '94 Pacers. Magic are 1995 Eastern Conference Champions. 1995 NBA Finals SHAQ vs HAKEEM the DREAM #1 Orlando vs #6 Houston [Rockets win 4-0] Orlando jumps out to 20 point lead in first half vs Houston. Then Houston chips away to 11 point deficit @ halftime. Then game is see saw and high scoring and tight until 4th qtr and overtime. Nick Andersen plays goat before G.O.A.T meant "greatest of all time." Anderson misses 4 straight free throws, Kenny Smith hits a three in Penny's eye, Drexler makes last second drive in Overtime , he misses, Hakeem tips in buzzer beater, Houston steals Game 1 and shocks and overwhelms Orlando to win 4 straight and back to back titles. Orlando goes 0-2 @ home and 0-2 in Houston.
1996 Orlando Magic 60-22, 2nd seed in the East.... 1996 first round SHAQ & PENNY vs G. HILL
#2 Orlando vs #7 Detroit [Magic win 3-0] first series sweep for Orlando. 1996 ECSF SHAQ & PENNY vs Laettner/S. Smith/Mookie #2 Orlando vs #6 Atlanta [Magic win 4-1]
Orlando is up 3-0 before splitting game 4 and 5. 3-0 @ home' 1-1 on the road in Atlanta.
1996 ECF ☆ SHAQ & PENNY ☆ vs ☆ AIR JORDAN & AIR PIPPEN & RODMAN'S WORM ☆ #2 Orlando vs #1 Chicago [Bulls sweep 4-0] Jordan and the 72-10 Bulls take back their 1993 EC crown and keep it until 1998. Chicago finishes 87-13 to win their 4th NBA crown in 6 years. Orlando loses SHAQ to Los Angeles in free agency and their own front office stupidity as they insult SHAQ , one of the three to five best players of the mid to late 90's. 1997 Orlando is Penny Hardaway's team and their are down 0-2 in the 1997 EC first round and on the cusp of being swept out of the playoffs for the fourth straight postseason. #7 Orlando vs #2 Miami. PENNY vs ZO MOURNING.
Magic 88 - Heat 75
Penny 42 pts, 8 rebs, 2 ast, 16/30 shooting, 1/4 from three, 9/10 FT's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He could of been better than kobe.
Isaiah Hawkes he was better than Kobe
Isaiah Hawkes he would have but cause things happen they way they did, did not happen! Just a shame
Prime Penny > prime Kobe.
@@eboooo facts
You could have taken basic grammar lessons