Yea even that 2Chainz example don’t work for him…. he was 35 when his solo career really started blowing up AND had mainstream group success when he was younger Math close to 50 years trying to go from battle rapper & podcaster to GOAT recording _artist?_ Any of those alone would be an uphill battle, but he got multiple strikes working against him
He made a grave mistake by mentioning the “backlash” being a reason why he wants to quit, giving the trolls what they want 😂 second mistake was saying he’s “one of the best rappers”, which is giving the trolls the fuel that they want
Qutting to do music is ass backwards. The music industry has NOTHING to do with skill. You have to sell your soul AND have talent in order to be successful
Hip hop don't support older artist either like that. I don't see anyone blowing up at his age for the first time. He couldn't do it coming off battle rap
And as a job, how many hours can it possibly cost him? 6 hours every week? Maybe another 6 doing some research? That’s a great job to have 😂 He got PLENTY time to focus on music, this just excuses.. “if only I had 100% of my time on music, I’d be the biggest artist worldwide!”
I said the same thing brotha math Hoffa keep your podcast going the rap shit you can do on your spare time but brotha math don't quit your bread and butter
What a lot of the new podcasters are realizing is that the money/profit is actually dwindling significantly and it isn't as good as used to be 5-6 years ago. People like VLAD actually built a business foundation which will allow for him and his business to continue on comfortably through the ebbs and flows of TH-cam decreasing peoples revenues; these newer people cant do that/dont have the time to because time is quickly running out.
Math you gotta dress better, market cleaner, because that “old man” “I’m better” “rapping about how good you rap” ain’t gone produce no hits. I’m not ageist at all and I think you can do it but you gotta broaden your vision, get fly and mob out. You can’t bring anything back, you gotta create the future. I’m nobody but my homie just said you the Rashad Mccants of rap and he’s nobody either😭
Vlad giving you the best advice you will ever Hear, don’t ignore that blessing……………. Double down on the show and really get to that next level. You can always make music for yourself, but if that’s not going to pay the bills it’s time to wake up and don’t let that dream become a nightmare Math. What you’ve accomplished with the podcast very few have, continue that outlet and let that rapping shit go/
Narcissistic… also he tried music already. He signed up to be controversial to get views now running from success to go back to what didn’t or don’t work smh
Math need to realize if his music didn't work out the first time, it won't work the next..first time impression is everything. Nobody wanna hear that shit bro😂😂
Alot of people in the comments clowning him but I understand where he's coming from, at this point the podcast is like a job for him and he's probably burned out and wants to try something different we've all felt like that before frfr
To be fair the same people that are clowning him really do support/love his podcast. So it's not like they are haters. I think if he was in his mid 20's or even in his early 30's they wouldn't clown him so much. But to focus on your rap career now in his mid 40's? Maybe he should find some young talent with a lot of potential start his own label.
Can’t stand Vlads takes!!! But idk, age comes into play when you are just coming out with a debut at 40. If he was jay Z or Nas who are older but been out for decades, that’s different. But looking to start in your 40s? Most start in their teens and 20s. Math may be too old to be STARTING. And battle rap isn’t the same as makin music
I believe the true hardship of being real to yourself in the podcast arena is weighing on Math. The business aspect of it financially and the coming and going of people he has built relationships with are taking a toll on him.
If you've never heard something you knew was above your pay grade you don't have an accurate assessment of yourself. Most of the greatest MCs talk about feeling like they'd never be able to do what some artist they revered did. It's called self-awareness, and it does a lot more to motivate you to be better than never having it cross your mind.
Math do realize we remember when he was broke battle rapper and seen how MEO came up and took off and leveled him up to now his hard work and effort got him mentioned with some of the top podcast and how those million subscribers paying well ..he dressing different getting body guards buying designer ..we as fans love to see the come up and success...If You dont put your all in something you will never know what you can reach..Gelo signed a 13 mil deal ..Math a real rapper he can he next ....We ain't feeling his music but who's to say he can make a hit to get him a bag like Gelo
Bro you better not quit podcasting. Nobody knows you for music. 99% of people know you from podcasting. If you got the money to last for the rest of your life, and to promote your music, go ahead. But don’t think the people will still be here for you when you come back. It don’t hit the same when you come back. You’re not 20. Not too many 40 year old rappers blowing up at 40
I hope he reads these comments! Math, NO ONE is checking for your music!!!! It's whack! Str8 up. No one is feeling it. In fact it's the opposite, it makes peoples skin crawl when we hear it because it's so trash. Stick with the podcasting.
Vlad, I wouldn’t waste my time trying to talk sense into Math. Math is too hard-headed to know that a 50 year old man ain’t gonna breakthrough in the industry.
Vlad was trying to convince him that your music is trash don't give up the podcast. Math is admitting that I'm too stupid to have my own podcast. Maybe he should stick to sucker punching other battle rappers🤷🏿
Math, i mean this wit all the respect in the world...Stick to the podcasting fam, thats what took you to the next level and solidified you as a household name...only a certain demographic knew you from battle rap, podcasting has given you a bigger platform than ever homie. A man gonna do what he gonna do regardless tho, hope its the right choice 💯
Boy ain't quitting, they higher ups ain't renewing that contract because his podcast number are horrendous now.. Don't believe me, take a look for yourself 😂
*Math Hoffa, instead of quitting your podcast, you would do much better, if you took all the criticism, and actually got your act together. AKA STOP CXXNING.*
Math dont quit podcasting bro, your music is terrible.
Got damn homie 🤣💀
😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fax
😂😂😂😂😂
+1…. I had to verify it first.
I skip all his intro music. Straight to the interview my guy.
The intro thing is corny af 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I agree, not sure why he raps before his interview. It's not GOOD
Rapping could work for him, he just needs to go to Dr Dre & Jimmy for the co sign and production 😂.
Honestly, Math's music really moves me. One time they were playing his music in my barbershop.... So I got up and went to another barbershop.
Lol
You won
Ouch
😂😂😂😂
They move me to the start of the podcast 😂😂😂 i always skip that shit
Math is delusional... music ain't hitting. Man is 45 or 46
Right fuck is he talkin bout.
He can probably reach Eminem status but idk about legendary status with Ja Rule and 2Pac and Big.
Yea even that 2Chainz example don’t work for him…. he was 35 when his solo career really started blowing up AND had mainstream group success when he was younger
Math close to 50 years trying to go from battle rapper & podcaster to GOAT recording _artist?_ Any of those alone would be an uphill battle, but he got multiple strikes working against him
@@BlackFaithProduction STOP the Cap🤣🤣🤣
@@BlackFaithProductionyour high. He’s not good. His voice and delivery are blah. If he thinks he’s gonna finally break thru at 47 years old….
I love that Vlad is basically telling math, “bro stick to your day job” the audience for math isn’t there.
Your username a play on The Wire?
@ good question. yes and no
@@SnoopWallace lol alright, if so that's a cool name.
Math gonna be eating top ramen like a struggling artist if he quits
well, its the best Top of the TOOP
Math can’t handle the hate ,he probably reads all the comments 😂😂
He made a grave mistake by mentioning the “backlash” being a reason why he wants to quit, giving the trolls what they want 😂 second mistake was saying he’s “one of the best rappers”, which is giving the trolls the fuel that they want
100% you see him replying to the hate under the videos
Nah quit rapping math 😂
Those intros are horrible. Math constantly trying to push his music. If you’re 44 and your rap career hasn’t taken off it’s time to let it go.
Battle rappers can battle but most can’t make a good song
some rare exceptions like Eminem who started off in the battle rap arena.
@@SoloDolo01most rappers started off battling jay z dmx Cassidy ll cool j takin krs one rakim busta rhymes etc
Math... we fast forward through those songs at the beginning of your podcast.
He's ruining his podcast with the wack music intros
Math gone be disappointed as hell when he see his music gets no traction
It's been almost 20 years with no traction; I think he'll be alright lol
😂 damn
Math if u quit u better start some other show cause everyone gonna forget about u
No hater shit i like math fr im just being honest
Math addicted to the glory
Nobody wanna hear Math rap plus everyone says it’s no money in music
@@HighroadShow FAX, real snake mans
@@Vann510exactly you don’t see gillie still trying to revive his rap career he making millions doing his podcast
Math was taking off the jacket like Vlad just dissed him in a battle and he took it personally 🥊
Qutting to do music is ass backwards. The music industry has NOTHING to do with skill. You have to sell your soul AND have talent in order to be successful
There are some huge independent artistis like $uicideboy$ who do huge world tours indy but math don't make good music
Hip hop don't support older artist either like that. I don't see anyone blowing up at his age for the first time. He couldn't do it coming off battle rap
You really don't even need talent, look at half the records out there
You don’t need to sell your soul you just need to have music that people wanna hear lol and Math ain’t got a single song anybody wants to hear
I thought Math was trolling us with those terrible intro songs.
I skipped that shit every time 😅
MATH THAT HOT COAT COOKING YOUR BRAIN 🤷🏾
Don’t stop the podcast if anything do both. Cause the rapping you can’t do 24/7 the podcast is like a job.
And as a job, how many hours can it possibly cost him? 6 hours every week? Maybe another 6 doing some research? That’s a great job to have 😂 He got PLENTY time to focus on music, this just excuses.. “if only I had 100% of my time on music, I’d be the biggest artist worldwide!”
@ that’s why I’m saying do both, cause rappers starting there own podcast now and he already got a base with them already so why stop.
Exactly...
I said the same thing brotha math Hoffa keep your podcast going the rap shit you can do on your spare time but brotha math don't quit your bread and butter
@@joojoobawwhy do I see you under every math comment section whether it’s vlad or his channel
When the comment section actually agreeing with vlad, thats saying something.
0:42 Nah don’t quit. I don’t thinking ninjas rock with your music. I know I don’t 😂😂😂
All the comments for his podcast says he should cut it out
MATH!!! For the LOOOVE OF GOOOD!! PLEASE DO NOT GO BACK TO RAPPING 😩 …. We all skip fast fwd on the intro’s of your podcast just don’t do it
Fat joe got Math to stop doing podcasts lol 😂
What a lot of the new podcasters are realizing is that the money/profit is actually dwindling significantly and it isn't as good as used to be 5-6 years ago. People like VLAD actually built a business foundation which will allow for him and his business to continue on comfortably through the ebbs and flows of TH-cam decreasing peoples revenues; these newer people cant do that/dont have the time to because time is quickly running out.
Math you gotta dress better, market cleaner, because that “old man” “I’m better” “rapping about how good you rap” ain’t gone produce no hits. I’m not ageist at all and I think you can do it but you gotta broaden your vision, get fly and mob out. You can’t bring anything back, you gotta create the future. I’m nobody but my homie just said you the Rashad Mccants of rap and he’s nobody either😭
I respect math for following his passion....but he just doesn't know, he's a much better podcaster than he is s rapper 🤷
I’m 46 and on God I only heard of Math for podcasts about a couple of years ago
If you weren't into battle rap, you wouldn't have.
I know him for fighting at rap battles 😅
@@12-Jewels The circle of battle rap is about as big as screw music in the south that’s just if you like it
Vlad giving you the best advice you will ever Hear, don’t ignore that blessing…………….
Double down on the show and really get to that next level.
You can always make music for yourself, but if that’s not going to pay the bills it’s time to wake up and don’t let that dream become a nightmare Math.
What you’ve accomplished with the podcast very few have, continue that outlet and let that rapping shit go/
Hollow da don is LOVING THIS 😂
If "don't quit your day job" was a person
He should do the analytics on how many watch the intros and outros to MEO vs the interviews then make a sound judgement.
Bro is super delusional, does he not read his comments? Trying to make it as a rapper after 45 is crazy, MEO should be the main focus 100%
Narcissistic… also he tried music already. He signed up to be controversial to get views now running from success to go back to what didn’t or don’t work smh
Bruh, Math Hoffa is 44 years old 😂 WTF?!
Is anybody gonna tell him or should we let him find out on his own 😂
Everybody always tells him on his comment section already 😂
Math wants peace.
Math need to realize if his music didn't work out the first time, it won't work the next..first time impression is everything. Nobody wanna hear that shit bro😂😂
2 THINGS MATH HOFFA IS NOT ONE OF THE BEST RAPPERS IN THE WORLD😂😂😂 ANOTHER HE SHOULDNT LEAVE PODCAST TO FOCUS ON HIS RAP CAREER
Please allow Mecca to keep the show going. He’s a pretty good interviewer.
Big Taurus energy. I feel exactly like math. Don't die with regrets.
Bro about to be 45. Aint nothing wrong with podcasting
Vlad is telling him in a nice way negua keep ur day job u not 2 chains
Being the best rapper doesn’t matter, it all marketing
Nah
@ you probably listen to lil baby
@@Shinobi-Xo 50% talent 50% marketing. You can put the shit in front of people, but if they’re not feeling it, they’re just not feeling it.
In the words of Math Hoffa, before Dizaster beat him up, “ DO IT!!!!! DO ITTT!!!” 😂😂😂🤧😴😵💫
6:30 math was bout to choke Vlad out 😂This the first video everyone agrees with Vlad
Math your music is terrible bro....stick to the podcast
😂facts
180 songs we never heard keep it that way
Math don't do it, u sound too monotone, ghost writing is better for you... don't do it!!!
SPITTING BARS AT 100 LOL
7:53 seconds of vlad telling Hoffa he can’t rap and he too old 😂
This is the Schaub moment when Rogan told him he cant fight😂
You know what Math? This would be a fantastic move! You should absolutely pursue a career in music!
I dont tune in to his podcast , i only tune in to Listen to the Music video in the beginning lol
Can someone tell homeboy his music is largely GARBAGE!
1 day podcasting+6 days making music=Success
Making fiends leave Earth you heard.
Trap star I don’t hang with the backpackers.
You spend more time regretting the things you didn't do than regretting the mistakes you actually do.
Alot of people in the comments clowning him but I understand where he's coming from, at this point the podcast is like a job for him and he's probably burned out and wants to try something different we've all felt like that before frfr
To be fair the same people that are clowning him really do support/love his podcast. So it's not like they are haters. I think if he was in his mid 20's or even in his early 30's they wouldn't clown him so much. But to focus on your rap career now in his mid 40's? Maybe he should find some young talent with a lot of potential start his own label.
Vlad stop with the age hate, I'm going to keep doing music no matter how old I get.
Not age hating it’s the truth
Truth is not hating
@@DeV_Rob only "true" for rappers but hey it takes someone to break the barrier right?
Can’t stand Vlads takes!!! But idk, age comes into play when you are just coming out with a debut at 40. If he was jay Z or Nas who are older but been out for decades, that’s different. But looking to start in your 40s? Most start in their teens and 20s. Math may be too old to be STARTING. And battle rap isn’t the same as makin music
You have to think of financial security when you get older.
I’ve heard your intro 180x and that shit ass🤦🏽♂️
“I wouldn’t write my battle until the week of”…I always thought that came off the top, don’t quit your day job
I believe the true hardship of being real to yourself in the podcast arena is weighing on Math. The business aspect of it financially and the coming and going of people he has built relationships with are taking a toll on him.
When Meg the Stallion tears you up in a battle you know u gotta give it up
If you've never heard something you knew was above your pay grade you don't have an accurate assessment of yourself. Most of the greatest MCs talk about feeling like they'd never be able to do what some artist they revered did. It's called self-awareness, and it does a lot more to motivate you to be better than never having it cross your mind.
This is one of the few times I 100% agree with Vlad.
Dont quit 1 do both lol plan A & plan B - can also work off each other 🤷😂🤣💯🎯
Its never too late Math , prove it to your self !
Math do realize we remember when he was broke battle rapper and seen how MEO came up and took off and leveled him up to now his hard work and effort got him mentioned with some of the top podcast and how those million subscribers paying well ..he dressing different getting body guards buying designer ..we as fans love to see the come up and success...If You dont put your all in something you will never know what you can reach..Gelo signed a 13 mil deal ..Math a real rapper he can he next ....We ain't feeling his music but who's to say he can make a hit to get him a bag like Gelo
MATH looks mad after VLAD basically told him he sucks lol... His even breathing hard.
His heart needs to tell him absolutely no one wants to hear his music
Bro you better not quit podcasting. Nobody knows you for music. 99% of people know you from podcasting. If you got the money to last for the rest of your life, and to promote your music, go ahead. But don’t think the people will still be here for you when you come back. It don’t hit the same when you come back. You’re not 20. Not too many 40 year old rappers blowing up at 40
Probably the only time I agree with vlad 😂
I hope he reads these comments! Math, NO ONE is checking for your music!!!! It's whack! Str8 up. No one is feeling it. In fact it's the opposite, it makes peoples skin crawl when we hear it because it's so trash. Stick with the podcasting.
Keep doing your thang Math and fuck the haters 💯
Math one of them people that can’t hear the word No.
Vlad, I wouldn’t waste my time trying to talk sense into Math. Math is too hard-headed to know that a 50 year old man ain’t gonna breakthrough in the industry.
Math Hoffa - "I'm single,can't have just one like a Pringle"
For the love of god stay podcasting. 😩
Bro you supposed to do both at the same time … you’re music is ok just keep the podcast
Vlad was trying to convince him that your music is trash don't give up the podcast. Math is admitting that I'm too stupid to have my own podcast. Maybe he should stick to sucker punching other battle rappers🤷🏿
Vlad: “I thought about quitting VladTV myself but I won’t because I’m not a QUITTER!”
The moment math realized vlad ain't his boy like he thought
Math tryin to restore the feelin
He minds we’ll battle dose and dizaster again 😂😂😂
Vlad talk too much! The host is not supposed to talk more than the guest!
My man Math jacked Waldo for his hat. Where's Waldo, Math? Where's Waldo?
Math ain't quittin.. he is way smarter.. he knows we all skip past his raps.. he needs to set himself up for life via poddin'..
Math your podcast is your platform you can push your music all day on there
Math, i mean this wit all the respect in the world...Stick to the podcasting fam, thats what took you to the next level and solidified you as a household name...only a certain demographic knew you from battle rap, podcasting has given you a bigger platform than ever homie. A man gonna do what he gonna do regardless tho, hope its the right choice 💯
This is like when an older dude wants to become a gang member at age 35😂😂
Now that people know your heart ain’t in podcasting, they might not even watch the show anymore
He can try to do the rap thing if it fails. He can always go back to the podcast.
How about quit both. The game don't need you on any level.
Mr. Math it is not adding up 46 yr old rapper signs a 360 deal and ends up as Security guard at ALDI'S 😂😂😂😂😂
Math gotta check his belief system 🤣🤣🤣
Naaa math thats not it, your music is light
Boy ain't quitting, they higher ups ain't renewing that contract because his podcast number are horrendous now.. Don't believe me, take a look for yourself 😂
He should go for it. Don’t spend your whole life wondering what if
*Math Hoffa, instead of quitting your podcast, you would do much better, if you took all the criticism, and actually got your act together. AKA STOP CXXNING.*
Man, gonna wait for six months and have to see an unemployment line
Math lost his mind.. He gone be back battling in 5 years wishing he should’ve kept his original crew together
You can’t do nothing but respect it.🤷🏽♂️