Thanks for this upload! Great! Came for over ten years to Maastricht once a month by car from Northern Germany. This was starting in 1996. Will have good memories forever! ps. song has been nicely choosen. Respect from the other side of the pond. SANDRA!!!
Four tunnels have been built. Two above the other two. The uppers are for local traffic, with turnings off; the lower is for through mainly international traffic. This is near international borders. Brian Oosterbeek Nederland. PS Built in a very confined area, heavily built up area. A masterpiece which has transformed the formally awful traffic situation through Maastricht.
Great to know about this tunnel - not a fan of tunnels myself, can't even stand the Mersey tunnels or the Welsh A55 tunnels as I get really claustrophobic in them. Going up to Amsterdam and checking the route for tunnels to try and avoid stress - as getting claustrophobic whilst trying to drive a car isn't a good idea! Already spotted the tunnels in Amsterdam and the alternate bridge nearly missed this one though, it's strange though 'cos if you look on Google maps it doesn't show these tunnels in the street map view only on the overhead view.
Thanks, anyway, what I didn't really add last time. The SAA project looks pretty good. It looks very natural, too (and that for a province like Flevoland). I googled Flevoland a couple of times on google and that only shows me perfect patches of farmland, but Almere and the area around it seems to be diferrent, and the new project has been very well done there so far in my opinion. Looking at the video, I can't help but think: why did they make it so complicated? though. If you are travelling with a navigation system or are well known in the area, then you might be fine with it. But I can see a stranger without navigation getting into trouble easily there. Also, I think they were supposed to make some exits at the upper tubes that weren't finished yet, but I don't see any of those finished. I'm not from there, so I wouldn't know the very specific details too. By the way, normally indeed the A79 does not carry much traffic, however, on peak hours, it can be more packed than you might think (seen it once or twice), on average, not so much though, I agree. I once went with a guy around 16 00 / 17 00 on a weekday, and he took another route, when we entered A79 at Valkenburg it was pretty busy (surprised me too). Though normally you can 'shoot a cannon on it' so to say and there's not much happening. On weekends it sometimes looks as if no one uses it at all. But at real peak hours it is sometimes good that it is 2x2. I'm more curious about the buitenring project now because I kinda live in that area, more to the east. I also think road projects are quite expensive in the Netherlands (or maybe that's just me). I think that tunnel almost costed like 1 billion, and the SAA project was 5 billion, but I expected it to be 2x6 everything or something, and that wasn't the case as far as I could see. Perhaps I'm underestimating costs, but with the buitenring project they were also going through city parts sometimes, through a protected nature area, and the height differences that were a difficulty sometimes, and that only costed 440 million, which I find to be quite cheapish in comparison, so I don't really get that.
@@StarmanFR Only the first 4 sentences, and a later half, are about Flevoland. This d#rKDragon is actually living in that same south-eastern part which is called South-Limburg. The Buitenring he talks about is in the eastern region of it, Parkstad / Oostelijke Mijnstreek, on the border with Germany / Region Aachen.
Construction work becomes expensive when the underground is weak as jelly pudding (veen), or when you dig below the natural water level, and certainly when you need to make a long stretched underground concrete building to support 3 levels of traffic like in Maastricht. That Parkstad Buitenring is by no means cheap, because it costs more than it will benefit society, the mandatory studies said, and those studies didn't even included the damage dealt to nature and other side effects like sound hinderance or extra crossing barriers to slow traffic. The plans were also adapted to keep things cheap. In Brunssum the cut into the polluted mine stone "mountain", was reduced so less material had to be hauled out. The mine stones that had to be moved, were dumped nearby across the street into the old settling basins of the mine Hendrik in the Brunssummerheide, saving a lot of km/miles, diesel, money.
2:27 Really hate this part, bad design as per my opinion. Traffic builds up on the exit and you have to check traffic coming from behind and move over to the right lane if you want to go right. It is asking for accidents, already saw multiple near accidents driving on this part and 1 actual crash in rush hour. For me it is a flaw in their design. They are aware of this as well as they close 1 lane of traffic entering the Tunnel having more buildup before the tunnel and reducing congestion on this traffic point. But if you have to apply these kinds of tricks daily you know you have a flawed design. They need to seriously consider redesigning this exit.
ideally there would be a partial cloverleaf where you exit after the viaduct and then make a turn on the ramp, but space is not available for that due to the parallel railroad. Interestingly there are already two free-flow right turns from A2 to MECC which is not all that common in the Netherlands.
European Roads Well I think this is a consequence of choices. You build 2 levels, good idea. Local and through traffic. Perfect nothing bad about that. I am the last one to want to burn them to the ground for this as it is much better than it was. This exit though not so much. However the right turn you speak off is now split in left and right where like 80% wants to go right. Hence you have heavy local traffic converging on this point and through traffic coming to this busy point as well. As I see it, asking for trouble. I do not understand why they made the choice to merge traffic back together on this obviously busy spot. It even kind of undermines their own concept of top level local traffic and lower level through traffic as you can still use through traffic tunnel to reach local destination and many do use it for that purpose.
It looks similar to the Wheeling Tunnel in Wheeling, West Virginia, USA. Since Transcontinental I-70 was reduced to 1-lane, a new bypass, I-470 was built around town without any tunnels, but I still love the old, outdated tunnel.
What interest to make a double tunnel for local and through traffic while there is only one exit in the upper tunnel? And only at 100m of the exit of the lower tunnel! Quel intérêt de faire un double tunnel local et traversant alors qu'il n'y a qu'une seule sortie dans le tunnel supérieur? A même pas 100m de la sortie du tunnel inférieur !
capacity. Not enough space, for for instance 2X3. Also, when one tunnel is closed for maintenance, you still can se the other. The road previously went through the city with intersections with traffic lights, and as a result a lot of traffic jams. Local traffic which needs to go to the other side of the city now goes in the upper tunnel (2x2) and through-traffic goes in the lower (2x2). Also there is still a city roadllane each side and some intersections in the newly developed area above the tunnel. Thus the road went from 2 lanes in each direction, to 5 lanes in each direction, divided among 3 layers!
I don't think they're that different (based on the Imperial system). anyways it was just a play on words. The mile was invented by the Romans along time ago, when the Roman Empire was building roads and needed a way to measure distances. Today one mile equals 5,280 feet.
Great video! The entrance to the tunnel is coordinated with the music. Very professional editing! Many thanks and blessings from Israel
Thanks for this upload! Great! Came for over ten years to Maastricht once a month by car from Northern Germany.
This was starting in 1996. Will have good memories forever! ps. song has been nicely choosen. Respect from the other side of the pond. SANDRA!!!
Four tunnels have been built. Two above the other two. The uppers are for local traffic, with turnings off; the lower is for through mainly international traffic. This is near international borders. Brian Oosterbeek Nederland. PS Built in a very confined area, heavily built up area. A masterpiece which has transformed the formally awful traffic situation through Maastricht.
i already drove through it just after it opened to the public.
In my opinion the name is way to long, i just call it the 'Willy'-tunnel.
Great to know about this tunnel - not a fan of tunnels myself, can't even stand the Mersey tunnels or the Welsh A55 tunnels as I get really claustrophobic in them. Going up to Amsterdam and checking the route for tunnels to try and avoid stress - as getting claustrophobic whilst trying to drive a car isn't a good idea! Already spotted the tunnels in Amsterdam and the alternate bridge nearly missed this one though, it's strange though 'cos if you look on Google maps it doesn't show these tunnels in the street map view only on the overhead view.
The tunnel is so new, that Google can't keep up with the changes and they still show the construction work. ^^
Great tunnel video! I love tunnels, and this one is a beauty!
The asphalt at 30 seconds in has a french look to it.
It's old asphalt, possibly over 20 years old. A79 doesn't carry much truck traffic so the pavement lasts a little longer than average.
Thanks, anyway, what I didn't really add last time. The SAA project looks pretty good. It looks very natural, too (and that for a province like Flevoland). I googled Flevoland a couple of times on google and that only shows me perfect patches of farmland, but Almere and the area around it seems to be diferrent, and the new project has been very well done there so far in my opinion. Looking at the video, I can't help but think: why did they make it so complicated? though. If you are travelling with a navigation system or are well known in the area, then you might be fine with it. But I can see a stranger without navigation getting into trouble easily there. Also, I think they were supposed to make some exits at the upper tubes that weren't finished yet, but I don't see any of those finished. I'm not from there, so I wouldn't know the very specific details too. By the way, normally indeed the A79 does not carry much traffic, however, on peak hours, it can be more packed than you might think (seen it once or twice), on average, not so much though, I agree. I once went with a guy around 16 00 / 17 00 on a weekday, and he took another route, when we entered A79 at Valkenburg it was pretty busy (surprised me too). Though normally you can 'shoot a cannon on it' so to say and there's not much happening. On weekends it sometimes looks as if no one uses it at all. But at real peak hours it is sometimes good that it is 2x2. I'm more curious about the buitenring project now because I kinda live in that area, more to the east. I also think road projects are quite expensive in the Netherlands (or maybe that's just me). I think that tunnel almost costed like 1 billion, and the SAA project was 5 billion, but I expected it to be 2x6 everything or something, and that wasn't the case as far as I could see. Perhaps I'm underestimating costs, but with the buitenring project they were also going through city parts sometimes, through a protected nature area, and the height differences that were a difficulty sometimes, and that only costed 440 million, which I find to be quite cheapish in comparison, so I don't really get that.
Ok but this video was filmed in the province of Limburg, not Flevoland. It's position is in the extreme South-East in The Netherlands.
@@StarmanFR Only the first 4 sentences, and a later half, are about Flevoland. This d#rKDragon is actually living in that same south-eastern part which is called South-Limburg. The Buitenring he talks about is in the eastern region of it, Parkstad / Oostelijke Mijnstreek, on the border with Germany / Region Aachen.
Construction work becomes expensive when the underground is weak as jelly pudding (veen), or when you dig below the natural water level, and certainly when you need to make a long stretched underground concrete building to support 3 levels of traffic like in Maastricht.
That Parkstad Buitenring is by no means cheap, because it costs more than it will benefit society, the mandatory studies said, and those studies didn't even included the damage dealt to nature and other side effects like sound hinderance or extra crossing barriers to slow traffic.
The plans were also adapted to keep things cheap. In Brunssum the cut into the polluted mine stone "mountain", was reduced so less material had to be hauled out. The mine stones that had to be moved, were dumped nearby across the street into the old settling basins of the mine Hendrik in the Brunssummerheide, saving a lot of km/miles, diesel, money.
Mooie, Dutch design...
First time I noticed the HUD. What car is it in?
It's not a HUD but the reflection of the radio. The camera has a wide angle and I forgot to turn the radio off.
2:27
Really hate this part, bad design as per my opinion. Traffic builds up on the exit and you have to check traffic coming from behind and move over to the right lane if you want to go right. It is asking for accidents, already saw multiple near accidents driving on this part and 1 actual crash in rush hour. For me it is a flaw in their design. They are aware of this as well as they close 1 lane of traffic entering the Tunnel having more buildup before the tunnel and reducing congestion on this traffic point.
But if you have to apply these kinds of tricks daily you know you have a flawed design.
They need to seriously consider redesigning this exit.
ideally there would be a partial cloverleaf where you exit after the viaduct and then make a turn on the ramp, but space is not available for that due to the parallel railroad. Interestingly there are already two free-flow right turns from A2 to MECC which is not all that common in the Netherlands.
European Roads
Well I think this is a consequence of choices. You build 2 levels, good idea. Local and through traffic. Perfect nothing bad about that. I am the last one to want to burn them to the ground for this as it is much better than it was. This exit though not so much. However the right turn you speak off is now split in left and right where like 80% wants to go right. Hence you have heavy local traffic converging on this point and through traffic coming to this busy point as well. As I see it, asking for trouble.
I do not understand why they made the choice to merge traffic back together on this obviously busy spot.
It even kind of undermines their own concept of top level local traffic and lower level through traffic as you can still use through traffic tunnel to reach local destination and many do use it for that purpose.
It looks similar to the Wheeling Tunnel in Wheeling, West Virginia, USA. Since Transcontinental I-70 was reduced to 1-lane, a new bypass, I-470 was built around town without any tunnels, but I still love the old, outdated tunnel.
Est-ce que c'est le tunnel en construction depuis 2012 ?
Oui, le tunnel a été ouvert à la circulation en décembre 2016
What interest to make a double tunnel for local and through traffic while there is only one exit in the upper tunnel? And only at 100m of the exit of the lower tunnel!
Quel intérêt de faire un double tunnel local et traversant alors qu'il n'y a qu'une seule sortie dans le tunnel supérieur? A même pas 100m de la sortie du tunnel inférieur !
capacity. Not enough space, for for instance 2X3. Also, when one tunnel is closed for maintenance, you still can se the other. The road previously went through the city with intersections with traffic lights, and as a result a lot of traffic jams. Local traffic which needs to go to the other side of the city now goes in the upper tunnel (2x2) and through-traffic goes in the lower (2x2). Also there is still a city roadllane each side and some intersections in the newly developed area above the tunnel. Thus the road went from 2 lanes in each direction, to 5 lanes in each direction, divided among 3 layers!
merci , je ne comprenais pas les cartes et les images satelite...
Ici a la même route en Google Maps: goo.gl/maps/Zs9jXxf9dXienuiu5
In U.S. miles it is about 1.5 miles long.
Is the U.S. Mile different from a British Mile?
I don't think they're that different (based on the Imperial system). anyways it was just a play on words. The mile was invented by the Romans along time ago, when the Roman Empire was building roads and needed a way to measure distances. Today one mile equals 5,280 feet.
Little bit conservative to build a two lane tunnel!They gonna regret it in the future!Better build a three lane tunnel from the start.
Computer Addic there are 4 tubes with 8 lanes overall