I am blessed that mine is still looking, working and sounding as if I just took it brand new out of the box yesterday but, in this case, yesterday was November 1993.
I used to sell Nakamichi decks in the late 70’s when they introduced the 58x , 48x, and 680, 670ZX’s and 1000ZXL, all good but the 1000ZXL was the GOAT of the time.
For me personally is the "Top Trump of Cassette Decks the ReVox B710, 2 capstan motors, 2 spooling motors all mounted on aluminum support, no belts for transmission, long capstan shafts in bronze canisters, easy to build out all PCBs. I've had it for over 40 years now, bought new in 1983, replaced all capacitors and trimpots a year ago, then complete adjustment. Fantastic sound. Nothing like this is made anymore, those days are over. Greetings Patrick.
Very well explained Tony. The Dragon is in a class by itself. You know, a lot of guys miss your "deep dives" into quality machines and various cassette types. I know you must be busy with RMR these days but it would be great to see a video once a month or even once every two months on a subject of your choosing. Best regards Tony!
I own a Nakamichi Dragon as of 2 weeks ago thanks to my local Goodwill store. I have used cassette decks since I was a kid in the 1980s but I had never calibrated a single deck myself. Thank you showing how to do such a procedure. In my opinion not only does it seem incredibly simple to do it also seems fun. Who wouldn't want to squeeze every bit of performance from a common type 1 cassette? I do.
That was very interesting, I enjoyed the video a lot. I have a reason behind writing this as I own a BX300E. I think it has an 'E'. For many years I could not use it as it had a fault, it would drop out on one channel intermittently. The place where I bought it went out of business years ago, so the device remained in its box. The device went faulty when it was returned to Nakamichi, it was returned back to me with the fault. I am a patient chap and I hoped its day would come. A couple of years ago, I found a shop and they fixed it. The problem is no more. It works just fine, better than just fine, it is amazing. However, when I took the device into the shop, I also took along all of the paperwork which consisted of everything and more on the device, I thought it would help. But, when I collected the device after the repair, no paperwork was returned. The thing about these machines is when one switches from Tape to Source and then switch back again, there is absolutely no decernable change/difference to the signal, just the minute time step because of the distance between the playback head and the record head. Stunning equipment!
I used my Dragon,back in the IP’s mainly for recording from vinyl onto cassettes,it was an amazing machine,sound quality was unmatched.Still kicking myself for selling it.
Wow! Flood of memories. Own a Dragon along with an RX505 and the complete Nakamichi 7 system (Minus the CR-7 which I traded for the Dragon). My speakers were a pair of black B&W CM1 & CM2, then later I purchased a pair of Apogee Centaurs. The Nakamichi system was purchase in the late 80’s while I served in the USAF stationed in Japan in my early 20’s. It took over two years to save up for and acquire it all using my E-3 (junior rank) pay grade. I bought the speakers ($1200) first, them amp($1500), pre-amp ($1800) and so on. 3-4 months would go by while I saved up for the next piece. I finally was able to speed up the process when I took a part-time job teaching English off base on the weekends. It literally took a year before I even heard my stereo! Lol! The RX505 ($800) was my first tape deck and daily driver. OMS-7 CD ($1200) player, ST-7 tuner ($600) and CR-7 ($1,100). I think the CR-7 was the better deck over the Dragon to live with and record with, but the Dragon was a sacred piece of equipment. It was truly special and a joy to own. I enjoyed watching you prep the tape for recording and to see the auto azimuth adjust with the blinking light. Put a smile on my face. I lived in the dormitories on base at the time and was known as the “Nakamichi guy”. Lol! Thank you for your video.
😄😄😆🤣😂😂🤣🤣 You guys crack me up. I learned the secret a long time ago, when I was shopping for a new player. I had trouble deciding between an NAD and a Nakamichi bx-125. Eventually bought the Nak. It was a very nice audio boutique, and no pressure to buy was in evidence. I spent quite a lot of time there just shooting the breeze & learning things. I was floored when the manager told me which which tape player had the best sound, and it wasn't the Dragon, which they carried. It was a Mitsubishi HQ HiFi vcr. Ran about $600 ok in early 80s dollars. After I picked my jaw off the floor, he explained why. Tape speed. Any cassette deck plays .15" wide tape at 1 7/8 inches per second. A typical reel to reel plays .25" tape at 2-4 times that speed. Videotape, on the other hand, plays a .5" tape at 25 inches per second. A cassette just can't match that Dragon ~$3,000 - $7,000 . HQ HiFi vcr, brand new ~$100 - $150. Do the math. 😆
I got to hear a Nakamichi tape deck when I was a kid....and I STILL can not believe compact cassette tapes could sound so good. That said, a friend's Kenwood system was really good as well, and Pioneer....but truth be told into the early and mid 1990s, we had hit peak analog tape quality in the consumer market and people were moving on to CD and later that new m-pee-3 thing....I do miss the cassette days. Also, subscribing after this, my first video.
I purchased a couple high-end Sony Walkmans recently and with modern headphones sounds incredible! It doesn’t sound that much different than my hi res dap. Now I’m on the hunt for a Dragon.
I have an old-timer : Akai GXC-760D. This uses a Nakamichi mechanism, 3 head, double cabstand 3 motor system. It uses the Glass Xtal heads that are un-wearable. Have to do some maintenance on it but it's still OK. Have it sins the late 80's. There was a studio version of this deck that had 2 speed and Dolby A compression. Can't find anything on it (my dad had one when I was little, he was a sound engineer). This is a bit other gear but was top of the line in the id 70's. Has no metal setting but I tried and it is working. Not optimal. I think I will make the remote for it. This is well documented in the service manual and easy to make. Have lots of other projects so ...
Love your work Tony. My Dragon is in the UK. Compared to my B215 from Revox which I know you have also and my Studer version of the same the A721, the Nak is a handraulick feast as well as an ergonomic delight. The Swiss stuff sounds extremely good but is a nightmare to use in practice. The Dragon and or CR7 are very hard acts to beat in the sonic department. If you love tape and have the means, the reward for the ear is immense. It remains long after the purchase pain has subsided. I love them all as they are able to exploit and extract the last drop of life from a substance that is more akin to rust than anything else. Long may the revival continue! Bw Mike.
Dude, it's not hipsters ruining this. They don't have that kind of money. Period. It's aging baby boomers that now have extra cash laying around because their kids have left their nests.
The real reason for fine azimuth adjustment is to get high frequencies of the left and right channel in phase so that the stereo image sounds correct and certain frequencies aren’t completely or partially cancelled out coming ~180 degrees out of phase between the left and right speaker. The tape head can’t be possibly mechanically turned enough to spill over other tracks, IMO. The gap in the head is quite narrow.
As someone who barely experienced cassettes (born in 1990), videos like these are such great troves of information of the amazing technologies my parents would have dreamed of. I've got myself a pretty decent retro-HiFi coming along now. Even managed to get back my pair of Technics MK1210s that were made in the 90s.
With the azimuth adjustment being a mechanical one (as you showed a clip of an earlier video), how does the NACC adjust that? And surely, when it does, it would need to do it after putting in an already recorded tape. I find I'm having to adjust the azimuth (manually, in my case) when copying my old 30+ year old tapes to cd, as they were recorded in other machines now since long gone. I find the best way (by ear) is to adjust it in mono as a bad azimuth alignment tape sounds worse in mono. Usually hear a "swishing" sound with the eq changing. In stereo, it's not as noticable.
I have a Nakamichi Dragon that I bought new in 1985 that is near mint (around 1,000 hours of run time) and planning to sell it. I paid $3,800.00 CDN and I think I can get around $3,000.00 CDN for it. It is the BEST auto reverse cassette deck ever made. The auto azimuth feature is simply incredible and it brings the best out of any cassette you can throw at it, you hear the improvement in sound quality as it adjust the heads.
One of the many features of this deck is that it does not rely on the cassette felt pressure to push the tape on the heads, it lift it and uses a slight difference in capstant speed to hold the tape on the head at always the same pressure with cheap or high quality cassettes, new or old.
I love your logic regarding prices of flagship items making the Dragon a HiFi bargain, I have tried this philosophy on my wife but I'm not sure she's convinced. One major problem with many cassette decks was poor setting up at the factory. Even some top of the range models were carelessly calibrated. A bit like expecting a badly calibrated clock to keep accurate time. This was an area Nakamichi were careful to get right ensuring good performance. I recently had both my original condition cassette decks set up by Armstrong Audio repairs in Walthamstow. I discovered they were in perfect mechanical condition, which I would have expected, but badly set up, which I didn't. If you buy a top quality secondhand machine allow a few hundred quid to have it serviced and set up correctly. Cheaper machines than mine will cost less obviously. The Sony TC-K81 and Akai GX95/2 were fully stripped, overhauled and tweaked, cost me the above but the difference in performance on both is little short of incredible, so good in fact that I recently parted with my open reel. The Akai now makes recordings on chrome tape, without Dolby, that easily equal those made at 7 1/2ips on the open reel, the affordable speed ;). What more could you ask from a cassette machine. Sadly got to let the Sony go at some point to make way for another turntable. Gonna be hard having owned her for 40 years.
Lucky enough to have owned one of these. Purchased it from a work colleague. When calibrated with a Maxell UDXL11 tape or similar quality. Recording CDs I could not detect any difference from the source to the recorded cassette. Amazing piece of technology.
very nice review and general chat :) I've recently jacked in amateur radio - now thats a hobby that can bleed money, it makes collecting HIFI look inexpensive. I'm buying up faulty Nakamichi and learning to service and repair with a reasonable success rate so far. Fortunately a lot of the test equipment and workshop equipment is transferable to the new hobby.
Hi Tony. A question if I may. I have read that the useable lifetime of a cassette is around 30 years or so, I have several tapes that no longer play properly and it’s not my deck (Teac Z6000) as they are jamming up due to age. Does this mean that eventually this will be the death of the hobby? What are your thoughts? 1990 is now 30 years or so… Tick tick. Will all tapes and decks end up useless due to this issue, and if so, when?
I have a brilliant pre-recorded tape from 1979 with no Dolby NR that has virtually no hiss to this day. To be fair, it is Japanese, but I believe care is more important than time as far as longevity is concerned
Hi. Where would you categorize Yamaha KX-300/400/500 series decks? By my understanding these are simple and do what most listeners need. I myself own KX-480 these days and coming from 90's boom box era, am quite satisfied with the playback and recording sound quality. Where do these stack up in quality line up?
what is a top tier playback cassette deck that is more reliable than the Nakamichi Dragon? I want HiFi Cassette play but I'm afraid to invest in a Dragon because like you said they're getting harder and more expensive to work on as time goes on. Great video, thank you
I had a 3 head cassette player and recorder there good you can see the high bias recordings ive still got the technics hi fi stack 950 model still golg good, system 150 watts per channel output ,very powerful ,cant get anything like this now ,that was away back in the late eighties or early nineties ,
Thanks to your videos bringing back cassette novelty, I've sold over $30K USD in cassettes. That $30K went into crypto and pot stocks and became $94K. That $94K went toward some high priced stuff like a Birkin's, Rolex, etc. and became $174K USD. Finally that $174K is in some mutual funds yielding ~6-9% dividend. Not bad for a guy in his late 20's eh ?
I played a Justin Bieber - Purpose Cassette in my 2006 mustang. And my friend was surprised when i popped out the cassette. Yes we ain't that old : P He was like all that bass was from that?????? He said it sounds amazing and clear and that the bass was a hell of a lot better than cd's. Had like a warmth to it in your ears. Record it from a high quality source and you'll get great recordings! If your making mixtapes on regular stereo's or the new Cassette players at Target/Walmart and not using Dolby B/C while recording. Turn Dolby off on your car or home stereo's. And it''ll be clear and boom. That's the main thing people get wrong. Hahaha yep. : )!
@@CassetteComeback Paramore just released riot on cassette. Ha. It’s catching on when big bands are all doing it. Silverstein, At the drive in, blink 182, taylor swift, Selena gomez, The weekend, machine gun Kelly are as-well. Metallica and Alice n chains just re-released some cassettes too.
Had a ZX-9, which was considered a Dragon Killer.. I blind tested 15 people 30 years ago listening through my old AKG150 Headphones, using the Nak, a Dual 604 turntable with a Shure V5 type3 cartridge and a Technics CD Player. I recorded the album 'White Winds' from Andreas Wollenweider to a metal cassette with dolby C, from vinyl. I also had the same material on CD as well.. Short story: no one was able to hear any difference predictably; including myself! Once calibration is done on a high-end Nak, any cassette's sound is indistinguishable from the original material.
Isn't it interesting to listen to hear 2010-2020 music from a cassette deck, where the source is FLAC, Mp3 or streaming ? Excessive loudness is mitigated, but the slight distortion due to its dynamics sounds is next to desireable. Even the latest tracks brings me back 20-30 years ago.
My Nakamichi Cassette Deck 2 has stopped playing. Everything else works fine like rewind, fast forward and all other functions. Can anyone please help to fix it myself?
I use the MDR 7506 for my studio work for decades, I used it before it was the "MDR 7506" but was the "MDR V7". (Actualy I still keep my old MDR V7 in a drawer, repaired with duck tape, pieces of wood and wire. I'm a sensible guy :-) ) I have other headphones obviously and I regularly swap between them and my monitor speakers during my work, but the MDR7506 is a real faithfull workhorse. It's an excellent choice.
I nearly cried when I saw an abused and beat up Nakamichi Dragon at a swap meet. It looked like it had been tossed into a garage, the front buttons were all scratched up, knobs missing, and it was all scratched up, moisture damaged and rusted. All I could think of was some idiot grandkids that had no respect or knowledge of what this was, and what it was worth. Of course the seller at the swap meet knew and wanted way too much for the hunk of junk it had become. Let us all pray for the high end gear that ends up as rusted hulks of ignorance.
Great video, Tony. I love the cards you made! Great stuff! I also think you make a very good point about how the Dragon may be expensive, but compared to the highest end stuff for all other types of HiFi equipment, it's peanuts. Having said that, I personally don't think I want to drop two grand on a Dragon precisely because of the maintenance costs and difficulties you explained. Going into the 2020s it's only going to be harder to find people that are really qualified to work on these things. Therefore, I'd like to know what kind of decks you think offer a good balance between quality/performance and long-term reliability and serviceability. Cheers.
I don’t know a lot about Audio and have been trying to get into it. Something tells me I should buy one of these is good condition before someone else does
Great great video. Thanks man. Such Nostalgia!!! I still have my Nak deck from the mid 90s. It was a basic model, sounded great, never had an issue with it, but when MiniDisc format came out, I switched over and never went back. My favorite Cassette deck that I owned was a three head, dual motor Denon that counted in minutes and seconds. That was a very reliable terrific sounding deck. I don't remember what happened to it. It probably needed a repair at some point after I had already moved on to MiniDisc...I still have 4 MiniDisc home decks and several walkman type. All Sony. I used them in my mobile DJ business for years recording my shows and Radio station programs. It was such a great invention.
From what they say it is a very good deck, but the truth is the external appearance doesn't tell me anything, I even notice it is very overloaded, in truth if I had to invest in Nakamichi I would do it in a 680ZX which is absolutely beautiful, thanks for the very interesting review
Tony, nice video as usual; what is your opinion on Sony 3 head, Dolby S decks? I'm on a budget and cannot afford a dragon, but I'm curious about the ES series decks from Sony and I would like to, at some point, get back to my tapes. I used to have a Nak 700 II long time ago and really enjoyed those years of mixed tapes.
Never had one. Their owners seem to like them, and the Aiwa I've had are superb. They seem to need maintenance now though if they haven't had their belts etc replaced at some point since new.
I was in high school in the early 90s and had dreamed of getting a Nak. I could only afford a basic Sony deck. Though that deck still made a lot better mix tapes than the usual boombox or mini systems most of my friends used.
Congratulations… a very good Video 👍🏼 I remember my first love… it wasn’t a girl… it was the Nakamichi Dragon 😅 Anyway Nakamichi always built unique and awesome Tapedecks. Every single one a masterpiece but the Dragon did smashed them all. Btw: Can you tell me the name of the track you’ve recorded and played on the Dragon? It’s a very good tune 👍🏼 Thank you very much and many greetings from Austria 🇦🇹
wouldnt you want to saturate the tape fully tho? as in say calibrate the type1 tape to +2-4db, type2 tape to +4-6db and metal tape to +8-10db? so it plays back louder on walkmans, and then you wont have to put the vol up as much on the walkman, so save battery ;) +12db is you really wanna push the type4 tapes
You new before I used to use couple of cassette decks akai from the 70s. Now I'm using a marantz 1820 mkII both stop working. Not very sure what it was . I thought probably is the bands because you can hear something rolling inside and now at the place where I leave it just to change the bands . Thinking that was the bands. After at least 3 months of waiting because of corona. They called and told me we cannot fix it the motor is broken . I'm take it and open it to look inside. Too see of something really happen to the motor. It's so strange. Those motors usually dont break that easy. I think. Maybe I'm wrong . In the worst case I would like to have some advice in my next cassette decks if a new one or old one is better and which model. I have always bought second hand models from 70s or beginnings of the 80s . I don't want to spend 1 thousand . But I would something with fair options for quality . I really like cassettes.
Thats not what azimuth does. Its about the alignment of the magnetic field on the tape perpendicular to the direction of travel for the maximum induced field
I don't think your explanation of azimuth is all correct. As I understand, the problem is the angle of the head gap in relation to the tape/track. If it is more than 0, it leads to cancellation in reading the shortest magnetic field changes stored to the tape. So it results in loss of high frequencies. This should happen way before the head moves too far out of the track as you've shown. But correct me, if i'm wrong.
Wow I never knew cassettes could sound this great, well at least if you had the money for this. Well, I only have a hand full of cassettes that I need to digitize, I guess buying a Dragon would be a tad overkill for me :D
I think a big reason why Tanashin and their mechanism is so hated is two fold: 1. Cassette newbs wanting a cheap option; knockoff decks for under $300 are trash that cannot even play type-1 prerecord at all. 2. Authentic ones from 1995-2005 have motors that obsolete anything upper market for newbs wanting just good playback. RIP ebay Xerxes sellers wanting mass market appeal, cassettes were always the enthusiasts versus the unwashed masses, but now the caste system has expanded. .
Pf, its ok, but it is not a Tandberg or Revox ,checked my Tandberg 3034 after ten years, 11 - 26,65 khz after ten years of service. -15db, Maxell UD XL II
Through TH-cam, it's impossible to truly hear this decks awesome power. Personally, I don't care about recording, I just want my tapes to sound beefy on some good speakers. Which is why I'm buying a refurbished and upgraded bx1.
क्या यह दिखाया जा रहा कैसेट देख भारत में भी उपलब्ध है है तो इसकी क्या कीमत और कहां उपलब्ध हो सकता है और इसके साथ में कुछ एक्स्ट्रा पार्ट से वह भी मिल सकते हैं जैसे हेड मोटर कंट्रोलर और बेल्ट और आईसी
@@CassetteComeback that's obvious, but if you want to make analogue copy a proper R2R is miles better. Also a lot of pros still use tape for a recordings, none use cassette though
Absolutelly agree that mediocre decks perform good with expensive cassettes and to do the same with poor cassettes you need Dragon class deck. Question : Why do You gonna spend tousends of bucks for expensive deck just to get savvy for cassettes ????😉
A good title for this video would have been "How to train your dragon."
*three heads dragon ☝️🥳
Both of you! Out!
I am blessed that mine is still looking, working and sounding as if I just took it brand new out of the box yesterday but, in this case, yesterday was November 1993.
PRAISE BE
I used to sell Nakamichi decks in the late 70’s when they introduced the 58x , 48x, and 680, 670ZX’s and 1000ZXL, all good but the 1000ZXL was the GOAT of the time.
I really missed NAKAMICHI. If they will reproduce again, I will definitely get one. Every piece is a classic
Sadly they have been takennover by the chinese
For me personally is the "Top Trump of Cassette Decks the ReVox B710, 2 capstan motors, 2 spooling motors all mounted on aluminum support, no belts for transmission, long capstan shafts in bronze canisters, easy to build out all PCBs. I've had it for over 40 years now, bought new in 1983, replaced all capacitors and trimpots a year ago, then complete adjustment. Fantastic sound. Nothing like this is made anymore, those days are over. Greetings Patrick.
Audio Masterclass's David Mellor brought me here. Great video, sir.
21:11 I hoped Clutch would start playing... 😁
Very well explained Tony. The Dragon is in a class by itself. You know, a lot of guys miss your "deep dives" into quality machines and various cassette types. I know you must be busy with RMR these days but it would be great to see a video once a month or even once every two months on a subject of your choosing. Best regards Tony!
Remember seeing this deck in the post exchange catalog back in the 80s, was around 5K back then! Was a status symbol.
I own a Nakamichi Dragon as of 2 weeks ago thanks to my local Goodwill store. I have used cassette decks since I was a kid in the 1980s but I had never calibrated a single deck myself. Thank you showing how to do such a procedure. In my opinion not only does it seem incredibly simple to do it also seems fun. Who wouldn't want to squeeze every bit of performance from a common type 1 cassette? I do.
you found a Dragon at a Goodwill store? Holy crap!
You're so lucky! 😭Those things go for used car money!
I need to do more thrift shopping...
@@LordSandwichII These decks usually go for 10-30% more than what I paid for my car, I guess it's a test of priorities in life
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That was very interesting, I enjoyed the video a lot. I have a reason behind writing this as I own a BX300E. I think it has an 'E'. For many years I could not use it as it had a fault, it would drop out on one channel intermittently. The place where I bought it went out of business years ago, so the device remained in its box. The device went faulty when it was returned to Nakamichi, it was returned back to me with the fault. I am a patient chap and I hoped its day would come. A couple of years ago, I found a shop and they fixed it. The problem is no more. It works just fine, better than just fine, it is amazing. However, when I took the device into the shop, I also took along all of the paperwork which consisted of everything and more on the device, I thought it would help. But, when I collected the device after the repair, no paperwork was returned. The thing about these machines is when one switches from Tape to Source and then switch back again, there is absolutely no decernable change/difference to the signal, just the minute time step because of the distance between the playback head and the record head. Stunning equipment!
Brilliant video Tony! Thank you for explaining it so well how it all works.
I used my Dragon,back in the IP’s mainly for recording from vinyl onto cassettes,it was an amazing machine,sound quality was unmatched.Still kicking myself for selling it.
Wow! Flood of memories. Own a Dragon along with an RX505 and the complete Nakamichi 7 system (Minus the CR-7 which I traded for the Dragon). My speakers were a pair of black B&W CM1 & CM2, then later I purchased a pair of Apogee Centaurs. The Nakamichi system was purchase in the late 80’s while I served in the USAF stationed in Japan in my early 20’s. It took over two years to save up for and acquire it all using my E-3 (junior rank) pay grade. I bought the speakers ($1200) first, them amp($1500), pre-amp ($1800) and so on. 3-4 months would go by while I saved up for the next piece. I finally was able to speed up the process when I took a part-time job teaching English off base on the weekends. It literally took a year before I even heard my stereo! Lol! The RX505 ($800) was my first tape deck and daily driver. OMS-7 CD ($1200) player, ST-7 tuner ($600) and CR-7 ($1,100). I think the CR-7 was the better deck over the Dragon to live with and record with, but the Dragon was a sacred piece of equipment. It was truly special and a joy to own. I enjoyed watching you prep the tape for recording and to see the auto azimuth adjust with the blinking light. Put a smile on my face. I lived in the dormitories on base at the time and was known as the “Nakamichi guy”. Lol! Thank you for your video.
Great story and you really earned that precious set, well done!
Я из того же теста что и вы . Купил драгон в Бельгии за 1050$ в 84 г.
😄😄😆🤣😂😂🤣🤣
You guys crack me up. I learned the secret a long time ago, when I was shopping for a new player. I had trouble deciding between an NAD and a Nakamichi bx-125. Eventually bought the Nak.
It was a very nice audio boutique, and no pressure to buy was in evidence. I spent quite a lot of time there just shooting the breeze & learning things. I was floored when the manager told me which which tape player had the best sound, and it wasn't the Dragon, which they carried. It was a Mitsubishi HQ HiFi vcr. Ran about $600 ok in early 80s dollars. After I picked my jaw off the floor, he explained why. Tape speed.
Any cassette deck plays .15" wide tape at 1 7/8 inches per second. A typical reel to reel plays .25" tape at 2-4 times that speed.
Videotape, on the other hand, plays a .5" tape at 25 inches per second. A cassette just can't match that
Dragon ~$3,000 - $7,000 . HQ HiFi vcr, brand new ~$100 - $150.
Do the math. 😆
I already did a video on VHS for audio. Shame you couldn't play hifi VHS in your car, or in a Walkman type device...
I got to hear a Nakamichi tape deck when I was a kid....and I STILL can not believe compact cassette tapes could sound so good. That said, a friend's Kenwood system was really good as well, and Pioneer....but truth be told into the early and mid 1990s, we had hit peak analog tape quality in the consumer market and people were moving on to CD and later that new m-pee-3 thing....I do miss the cassette days.
Also, subscribing after this, my first video.
I purchased a couple high-end Sony Walkmans recently and with modern headphones sounds incredible! It doesn’t sound that much different than my hi res dap. Now I’m on the hunt for a Dragon.
@@professorvoluck9311 What did you get? A DD model? I have an ex600 showing up this week
@Burke Johnson My last purchase was an FX888 which comes with a backlit remote and charging dock. Sounds just as good as my DD. Good luck with yours.
I had to pause the video at 0:50 to drool over your setup. Some keyboards I’ve been longing for are sitting in that room! ⭐️👍🏻
I have an old-timer : Akai GXC-760D. This uses a Nakamichi mechanism, 3 head, double cabstand 3 motor system.
It uses the Glass Xtal heads that are un-wearable.
Have to do some maintenance on it but it's still OK. Have it sins the late 80's. There was a studio version of this deck that had 2 speed and Dolby A compression. Can't find anything on it (my dad had one when I was little, he was a sound engineer).
This is a bit other gear but was top of the line in the id 70's.
Has no metal setting but I tried and it is working. Not optimal.
I think I will make the remote for it. This is well documented in the service manual and easy to make. Have lots of other projects so ...
All the other cassette videos not by tech moan are trash. Thanks for the great content.
Love your work Tony. My Dragon is in the UK. Compared to my B215 from Revox which I know you have also and my Studer version of the same the A721, the Nak is a handraulick feast as well as an ergonomic delight. The Swiss stuff sounds extremely good but is a nightmare to use in practice.
The Dragon and or CR7 are very hard acts to beat in the sonic department. If you love tape and have the means, the reward for the ear is immense. It remains long after the purchase pain has subsided. I love them all as they are able to exploit and extract the last drop of life from a substance that is more akin to rust than anything else. Long may the revival continue! Bw Mike.
What a machine - it has such a defined and fast-responding sound! Very well done video of it, and the track choice also works very well I think :)
Amazing sound quality!!
The ridiculous amount of money people are selling these for is insulting. Hipsters ruined everything...
That's why is good to not bend over and not buy them until their prices drop greatly
supply and demand,.dude.
Agree about the hipster comment they suck
Dude, it's not hipsters ruining this. They don't have that kind of money. Period. It's aging baby boomers that now have extra cash laying around because their kids have left their nests.
Why did you think it is hipster?
The real reason for fine azimuth adjustment is to get high frequencies of the left and right channel in phase so that the stereo image sounds correct and certain frequencies aren’t completely or partially cancelled out coming ~180 degrees out of phase between the left and right speaker. The tape head can’t be possibly mechanically turned enough to spill over other tracks, IMO. The gap in the head is quite narrow.
Interesting to think about
Amazed at how good it sounds... Wow.
Thank you for the informstion. I don't know why high quality cassette decks are no longer made.
No demand coupled with the fact that if someone did, they'd be too expensive for the die hards.
I repaired my technics bx 747 for 160,- Euro now. One weak ago i ordered a tascam mk vii for my studio. I love this pieces for my dark cassettes
One of the tape decks I would love to hear do it's thing, I would be happy to even just get to see one as don't think I've ever seen one in the wild
As someone who barely experienced cassettes (born in 1990), videos like these are such great troves of information of the amazing technologies my parents would have dreamed of. I've got myself a pretty decent retro-HiFi coming along now. Even managed to get back my pair of Technics MK1210s that were made in the 90s.
With the azimuth adjustment being a mechanical one (as you showed a clip of an earlier video), how does the NACC adjust that? And surely, when it does, it would need to do it after putting in an already recorded tape. I find I'm having to adjust the azimuth (manually, in my case) when copying my old 30+ year old tapes to cd, as they were recorded in other machines now since long gone. I find the best way (by ear) is to adjust it in mono as a bad azimuth alignment tape sounds worse in mono. Usually hear a "swishing" sound with the eq changing. In stereo, it's not as noticable.
I have a Nakamichi Dragon that I bought new in 1985 that is near mint (around 1,000 hours of run time) and planning to sell it. I paid $3,800.00 CDN and I think I can get around $3,000.00 CDN for it.
It is the BEST auto reverse cassette deck ever made. The auto azimuth feature is simply incredible and it brings the best out of any cassette you can throw at it, you hear the improvement in sound quality as it adjust the heads.
One of the many features of this deck is that it does not rely on the cassette felt pressure to push the tape on the heads, it lift it and uses a slight difference in capstant speed to hold the tape on the head at always the same pressure with cheap or high quality cassettes, new or old.
Yeah, I never mentioned the pad lifter and it's is a great feature.
Do you want to Sell it ? Please call me
@@bennetjose666 Pickup only. Yes It is for sale
@@bennetjose666 I also have a TEAC X1000RBL that is for sale.
I love your logic regarding prices of flagship items making the Dragon a HiFi bargain, I have tried this philosophy on my wife but I'm not sure she's convinced.
One major problem with many cassette decks was poor setting up at the factory. Even some top of the range models were carelessly calibrated. A bit like expecting a badly calibrated clock to keep accurate time. This was an area Nakamichi were careful to get right ensuring good performance.
I recently had both my original condition cassette decks set up by Armstrong Audio repairs in Walthamstow. I discovered they were in perfect mechanical condition, which I would have expected, but badly set up, which I didn't. If you buy a top quality secondhand machine allow a few hundred quid to have it serviced and set up correctly. Cheaper machines than mine will cost less obviously.
The Sony TC-K81 and Akai GX95/2 were fully stripped, overhauled and tweaked, cost me the above but the difference in performance on both is little short of incredible, so good in fact that I recently parted with my open reel. The Akai now makes recordings on chrome tape, without Dolby, that easily equal those made at 7 1/2ips on the open reel, the affordable speed ;). What more could you ask from a cassette machine.
Sadly got to let the Sony go at some point to make way for another turntable. Gonna be hard having owned her for 40 years.
Adoro mi Dragon... recientemente volví a grabar un cassette y lo hizo con una calidad extraordinaria... gracias por tu video.
Lucky enough to have owned one of these. Purchased it from a work colleague. When calibrated with a Maxell UDXL11 tape or similar quality. Recording CDs I could not detect any difference from the source to the recorded cassette. Amazing piece of technology.
According to the Spectroid app on my phone, that 400 Hz tone was actually 393 Hz.
very nice review and general chat :) I've recently jacked in amateur radio - now thats a hobby that can bleed money, it makes collecting HIFI look inexpensive. I'm buying up faulty Nakamichi and learning to service and repair with a reasonable success rate so far. Fortunately a lot of the test equipment and workshop equipment is transferable to the new hobby.
Hi Tony. A question if I may. I have read that the useable lifetime of a cassette is around 30 years or so, I have several tapes that no longer play properly and it’s not my deck (Teac Z6000) as they are jamming up due to age. Does this mean that eventually this will be the death of the hobby? What are your thoughts? 1990 is now 30 years or so… Tick tick. Will all tapes and decks end up useless due to this issue, and if so, when?
I have a load of tapes from the early 80s that still play fine, if that's any reassurance.
new tapes are still manufactured to this day. Only type I ferrous and type II cobalt (no chrome), however
I have a brilliant pre-recorded tape from 1979 with no Dolby NR that has virtually no hiss to this day. To be fair, it is Japanese, but I believe care is more important than time as far as longevity is concerned
Hi. Where would you categorize Yamaha KX-300/400/500 series decks? By my understanding these are simple and do what most listeners need. I myself own KX-480 these days and coming from 90's boom box era, am quite satisfied with the playback and recording sound quality. Where do these stack up in quality line up?
what is a top tier playback cassette deck that is more reliable than the Nakamichi Dragon? I want HiFi Cassette play but I'm afraid to invest in a Dragon because like you said they're getting harder and more expensive to work on as time goes on. Great video, thank you
Get any good answers? I’m on the hunt as well.
Any 3 head Nakamichi would be a good choice...I really like my BX-300.
I had a 3 head cassette player and recorder there good you can see the high bias recordings ive still got the technics hi fi stack 950 model still golg good, system 150 watts per channel output ,very powerful ,cant get anything like this now ,that was away back in the late eighties or early nineties ,
Wow, the shown levels actually match what I'm hearing.
The Revox B215S was a dragon killer in my opinion.
Both they are the best cassette decks ever made, I personally prefer the Revox.
i’ve always thought, if the deck can make a good recording on the newer Maxell URs it can make a good recording on anything
It is EXACTLY 400hz!
I think you 'remember' the testtone of 440hz in your mind.
Of course it's not going to make a type 1 tape sound exactly like the source, but the degradation is graceful and extremely smooth.
Actually the Dragon brought up to spec will give 20 - 22 000 hz +-3db with ANY TAPE. You have a Nak need repairing you send it off to Willy Herman.
Thanks to your videos bringing back cassette novelty, I've sold over $30K USD in cassettes. That $30K went into crypto and pot stocks and became $94K. That $94K went toward some high priced stuff like a Birkin's, Rolex, etc. and became $174K USD. Finally that $174K is in some mutual funds yielding ~6-9% dividend. Not bad for a guy in his late 20's eh ?
Well, at least someone made some money from my videos 😆
@@CassetteComeback How are things going with Tony 2.0 in Canada ? It appears cassette tape novelty has passed since "pandemic" ?
I played a Justin Bieber - Purpose Cassette in my 2006 mustang.
And my friend was surprised when i popped out the cassette. Yes we ain't that old : P
He was like all that bass was from that?????? He said it sounds amazing and clear and that the bass was a hell of a lot better than cd's.
Had like a warmth to it in your ears. Record it from a high quality source and you'll get great recordings!
If your making mixtapes on regular stereo's or the new Cassette players at Target/Walmart and not using Dolby B/C while recording.
Turn Dolby off on your car or home stereo's. And it''ll be clear and boom. That's the main thing people get wrong.
Hahaha yep. : )!
Keep on fighting the cause!
@@CassetteComeback Paramore just released riot on cassette. Ha. It’s catching on when big bands are all doing it. Silverstein, At the drive in, blink 182, taylor swift, Selena gomez, The weekend, machine gun Kelly are as-well. Metallica and Alice n chains just re-released some cassettes too.
Had a ZX-9, which was considered a Dragon Killer.. I blind tested 15 people 30 years ago listening through my old AKG150 Headphones, using the Nak, a Dual 604 turntable with a Shure V5 type3 cartridge and a Technics CD Player. I recorded the album 'White Winds' from Andreas Wollenweider to a metal cassette with dolby C, from vinyl. I also had the same material on CD as well.. Short story: no one was able to hear any difference predictably; including myself! Once calibration is done on a high-end Nak, any cassette's sound is indistinguishable from the original material.
Isn't it interesting to listen to hear 2010-2020 music from a cassette deck, where the source is FLAC, Mp3 or streaming ? Excessive loudness is mitigated, but the slight distortion due to its dynamics sounds is next to desireable. Even the latest tracks brings me back 20-30 years ago.
I might not have that same deck, but I do have those headphones. My all time favourite model for working on electronic music.
Great video, as usual... except every time I see the formidable Dragon in your videos I get jealous again.
🙂
My Nakamichi Cassette Deck 2 has stopped playing. Everything else works fine like rewind, fast forward and all other functions. Can anyone please help to fix it myself?
not sure, but if you have the BX series, it could be idler and/or motor for reels
@@alexsicko Thanks, it was the motor, got it replaced and works fine now.👍
@Spooky Wurlitzer Thanks, it was the motor, got it replaced and works fine now.👍
I use the MDR 7506 for my studio work for decades, I used it before it was the "MDR 7506" but was the "MDR V7".
(Actualy I still keep my old MDR V7 in a drawer, repaired with duck tape, pieces of wood and wire. I'm a sensible guy :-) )
I have other headphones obviously and I regularly swap between them and my monitor speakers during my work, but the MDR7506 is a real faithfull workhorse.
It's an excellent choice.
May i ask where you Got this top trump card games with cassette tapes ?
I nearly cried when I saw an abused and beat up Nakamichi Dragon at a swap meet. It looked like it had been tossed into a garage, the front buttons were all scratched up, knobs missing, and it was all scratched up, moisture damaged and rusted. All I could think of was some idiot grandkids that had no respect or knowledge of what this was, and what it was worth. Of course the seller at the swap meet knew and wanted way too much for the hunk of junk it had become. Let us all pray for the high end gear that ends up as rusted hulks of ignorance.
Great video, Tony. I love the cards you made! Great stuff! I also think you make a very good point about how the Dragon may be expensive, but compared to the highest end stuff for all other types of HiFi equipment, it's peanuts. Having said that, I personally don't think I want to drop two grand on a Dragon precisely because of the maintenance costs and difficulties you explained. Going into the 2020s it's only going to be harder to find people that are really qualified to work on these things. Therefore, I'd like to know what kind of decks you think offer a good balance between quality/performance and long-term reliability and serviceability. Cheers.
Late Aiwa. Simple mech that even I can change the belts on. Simple modern electronics. Still great sound.
@@CassetteComeback thanks!
I love it! but I have a doubt, does this Nakamichi Dragón sounds better than my reel to reel Pioneer RT-2022?
No it doesn't
Can I drive drums through it and other sounds. Like should I grab this for my studio or should I look for something more colored?
Get one of the tape emulsifying vsts
I don’t know a lot about Audio and have been trying to get into it. Something tells me I should buy one of these is good condition before someone else does
Great great video. Thanks man. Such Nostalgia!!! I still have my Nak deck from the mid 90s. It was a basic model, sounded great, never had an issue with it, but when MiniDisc format came out, I switched over and never went back. My favorite Cassette deck that I owned was a three head, dual motor Denon that counted in minutes and seconds. That was a very reliable terrific sounding deck. I don't remember what happened to it. It probably needed a repair at some point after I had already moved on to MiniDisc...I still have 4 MiniDisc home decks and several walkman type. All Sony. I used them in my mobile DJ business for years recording my shows and Radio station programs. It was such a great invention.
From what they say it is a very good deck, but the truth is the external appearance doesn't tell me anything, I even notice it is very overloaded, in truth if I had to invest in Nakamichi I would do it in a 680ZX which is absolutely beautiful, thanks for the very interesting review
Tony, nice video as usual; what is your opinion on Sony 3 head, Dolby S decks? I'm on a budget and cannot afford a dragon, but I'm curious about the ES series decks from Sony and I would like to, at some point, get back to my tapes. I used to have a Nak 700 II long time ago and really enjoyed those years of mixed tapes.
Never had one. Their owners seem to like them, and the Aiwa I've had are superb. They seem to need maintenance now though if they haven't had their belts etc replaced at some point since new.
I was in high school in the early 90s and had dreamed of getting a Nak. I could only afford a basic Sony deck. Though that deck still made a lot better mix tapes than the usual boombox or mini systems most of my friends used.
Very nice Tapedeck. Where did you take New casettes?
id love to compare this machine against my Dual C830. They differ in price, how about sound?
I have a Nakamichi RX-202 do I need a receiver to set it up or can I just connect it to some Kali Audio LP 6 powered speakers?
If you just wanted to listen and the speakers are amplified you could just connect them to the headphone out of the deck...
@Spooky Wurlitzer I just want to play cassettes, thanks for the feedback.
@@CassetteComeback thank you 🙏🏾
Congratulations… a very good Video 👍🏼
I remember my first love… it wasn’t a girl… it was the Nakamichi Dragon 😅
Anyway Nakamichi always built unique and awesome Tapedecks. Every single one a masterpiece but the Dragon did smashed them all. Btw: Can you tell me the name of the track you’ve recorded and played on the Dragon? It’s a very good tune 👍🏼 Thank you very much and many greetings from Austria 🇦🇹
I have the RX-202. Put on new belts and idler tire it sounds great. People love the auto tape flip action! Sold my 580. Nakamichi for the win.
wouldnt you want to saturate the tape fully tho? as in say calibrate the type1 tape to +2-4db, type2 tape to +4-6db and metal tape to +8-10db? so it plays back louder on walkmans, and then you wont have to put the vol up as much on the walkman, so save battery ;) +12db is you really wanna push the type4 tapes
Your numbers are WAY too high.. No deck/tape combination will EVER saturate at +12db without distortion.
maxg/metalmaster?
... +10db is TEN TIMES the intensity. Check your numbers. Also that bit about saving battery is rubbish.
clearly you dont know how recording level effects playback volume
i love it. Great explanation. Nice sound!!
You new before I used to use couple of cassette decks akai from the 70s. Now I'm using a marantz 1820 mkII both stop working. Not very sure what it was . I thought probably is the bands because you can hear something rolling inside and now at the place where I leave it just to change the bands . Thinking that was the bands. After at least 3 months of waiting because of corona. They called and told me we cannot fix it the motor is broken . I'm take it and open it to look inside. Too see of something really happen to the motor. It's so strange. Those motors usually dont break that easy. I think. Maybe I'm wrong . In the worst case I would like to have some advice in my next cassette decks if a new one or old one is better and which model. I have always bought second hand models from 70s or beginnings of the 80s . I don't want to spend 1 thousand . But I would something with fair options for quality . I really like cassettes.
17:30 It is 400 Hz
i have a nacamichi mr1 cassette deck whats the difference in the sound quality? compared to a $1000 mr 1 cassette deck?
About 3 or 4.
🎵🎼 Thank you for the video! Cheers 🎼🎵
The Nakamichi sound is more than a slogan. It's a fact. All the way to their last DR series in the late 90s
Thats not what azimuth does. Its about the alignment of the magnetic field on the tape perpendicular to the direction of travel for the maximum induced field
I have a Nakamichi Dragon, it works perfectly only in the normal mode, but in the reverse mode, it simply destroys the tapes.
I don't think your explanation of azimuth is all correct. As I understand, the problem is the angle of the head gap in relation to the tape/track. If it is more than 0, it leads to cancellation in reading the shortest magnetic field changes stored to the tape. So it results in loss of high frequencies. This should happen way before the head moves too far out of the track as you've shown. But correct me, if i'm wrong.
still's sound's good like it did when it came out back in 1982, but like you said a lot of hard work and needs a lot of love
the best thing I got for the time was the Revox A77 MkIV for the money back in the 80's
I did the Nakamichi cr-7a back in 2017
Which do you prefer on the Dragon, Dolby B or C or no Dolby?
I never use NR on any deck
NR sucks
@@nutsackmania Agreed, but the professional Dolby A and newer Dolby SR are pretty good. But then a good ATR at 15ips does not need any NR.
I should pick up that Nakamichi decade ago!
Wow I never knew cassettes could sound this great, well at least if you had the money for this. Well, I only have a hand full of cassettes that I need to digitize, I guess buying a Dragon would be a tad overkill for me :D
I think a big reason why Tanashin and their mechanism is so hated is two fold:
1. Cassette newbs wanting a cheap option; knockoff decks for under $300 are trash that cannot even play type-1 prerecord at all.
2. Authentic ones from 1995-2005 have motors that obsolete anything upper market for newbs wanting just good playback.
RIP ebay Xerxes sellers wanting mass market appeal, cassettes were always the enthusiasts versus the unwashed masses, but now the caste system has expanded. .
US $12,548.99 used on ebay from japan
Nice.
I admit that this is the best deck ever made but thePRICE IS A LEG AND ARM!
Pf, its ok, but it is not a Tandberg or Revox ,checked my Tandberg 3034 after ten years, 11 - 26,65 khz after ten years of
service. -15db, Maxell UD XL II
😆
Through TH-cam, it's impossible to truly hear this decks awesome power. Personally, I don't care about recording, I just want my tapes to sound beefy on some good speakers. Which is why I'm buying a refurbished and upgraded bx1.
Second your video and perfect speech in the end
I feel lucky to own 3 of them 😂
The machine of dreams 😮
क्या यह दिखाया जा रहा कैसेट देख भारत में भी उपलब्ध है है तो इसकी क्या कीमत और कहां उपलब्ध हो सकता है और इसके साथ में कुछ एक्स्ट्रा पार्ट से वह भी मिल सकते हैं जैसे हेड मोटर कंट्रोलर और बेल्ट और आईसी
What about nagra?.
Great Cassette-Deck 👍👍👍
I just checked and that is 393Hz, not 400Hz.
Lovely vid many thanks.
Dragon was top. The best Tapedeck ever was Pioneer CT 95. Much better than all Nakas in Tests.
I have two of them, great machines.
now back to my budget 70e boombox
Dead killing this video!
THIS IS WHAT DREAMS ARE MADE OF. THE ULTIMATE CASSETTE DECK THE KING OF ALL CASSETTE DECKS. WISH I HAD ONE what hi fi magazine
I love my Aiwa's ❤❤❤ i never dreamt of a Naka.
sounds good but it's very noisy, for hobbyist and pro use I recommend real R2R machine
Pros today record digital. People who want to use cassettes can't play them on an R2R.
@@CassetteComeback that's obvious, but if you want to make analogue copy a proper R2R is miles better. Also a lot of pros still use tape for a recordings, none use cassette though
Absolutelly agree that mediocre decks perform good with expensive cassettes and to do the same with poor cassettes you need Dragon class deck.
Question :
Why do You gonna spend tousends of bucks for expensive deck just to get savvy for cassettes ????😉
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