Tapered Sliding Dovetail with Compound Angles
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This tapered sliding dovetail with compound angles took some head scratching to figure out! I thought I should share the knowledge for anyone else to give it a go. There could be a better way, this is just the way how I figured to make it. If you know of a better way then I would be very interested to know.
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I love how you collect all the clips from different days, even weeks apart and put it into one video instead of doing what everyone else does and uploading every time they do one thing, often leaving out the conclusion making it highly frustrating to watch. Your videos are complete.
Glad you're enjoying them Glenn! :)
Traditional german carpenter sawhorses are made with this joint, very nice to see them over the sea
Hi Neil
I am stuck working away and watching your videos from my hotel room , makes me itchy to get home and in the workshop to try some your ideas.
You should call it a Pask joint
Take the credit man, you deserve it.
Nice work
Will look great in a modern coffee table or end table
Way better than some of the same old same o joints
Looking forward to seeing a final piece
Thanks! Couldn't call it my joint as I saw a photo of it somewhere (not sure where now but probably on Instagram). :)
Wow! Amazing and confusing at the same time. Still trying to get my head around this. My brain is working overtime.
A beautiful crafted joint Neil.
Pretty confusing, but drop-dead gorgeous! Pls more of this!
Bloody BRILLIANT joint. Well done. I could see using this for any number of furniture leg designs. Sure would make knocking it down to move homes quite a bit easier. If the top has a built in drawer deep/long enough to hold the legs, then it can be shipped with the legs inside so they don't get lost in shipping. Plus the table, in this case, will take less room in the truck. Tusked tennons and these splayed sliding dovetails are great for the person who moves regularly like military families and such.
I'm looking forward to see what you make with it.
Great idea for sawhorses; I think I’ll give it a try!
All your videos are really helpful and you have given me heaps of ideas for when i have enough money to buy a few more materials and tools for my woodwork projects. You have helped and inspired me to start my own and unique creations i still need alot of practes though I'm lucky that i have a great woodwork teacher at school who helps me and supports my ideas. Thanks for all your great videos and when i get alot more skill and some more tools i may just try this thanks Pask
That's great to hear - I'm very glad the videos are helpful to you! Keep practising and you'll be knocking these joints out! :)
Pask Makes Thanks heaps 😃👍👍
Such a smart and powerful joint! Could be used for so many different purposes . Table legs without screws and perhaps not even glue. I’m gonna try it for the legs of a massage bed. Very enriching vid!!
Glad it was helpful to you! :)
Trying out new and complex joinery that you’re unsure of on a piece of furniture that supports a human in a vulnerable position. Brilliant!
Reminds me of Japanese joinery, very exacting. Nicely done Pask & I can't wait to see how you use this in a project............. :)
Many many thanks! I was just about to try n tackle these n here you've done all the legwork for me, awesome.
No worries Harry - glad to help! :)
Hehehe. Legwork
I believe you have the only video of a sliding tapered splayed raked (or slanted) dovetail joint. It seems to ME that you go about it backwards but your outcome suggests otherwise. I am trying a stool build in which I cut the "mortise" first and match the tenon to that. Even so, your techniques are well thought out and you have helped me in my build. Thank-you.
Very nice! Might use this for a coffee table.
Very nice! I love seeing how to make new (to me) and complicated joints being made and your step by step instructions will come in handy when I try it myself 😊 Thank you
Thanks Glen! Glad to hear you'll give it a go! :)
Nice job! By far the most complex joinery i've ever seen!
Beautiful joint Pask! My hands aren't nimble enough to cut that one.
Thanks for sharing.
No worries Felix! :)
Neat joint Sir. I am not very observant but I just noticed you are wearing heavy shirts - I forget that the seasons are reversed from mine in your hemisphere. 95 degrees here in Kentucky - Thanks for the video - I enjoy them all.
Glad you're enjoying the videos Jim! This is my favourite time of year, I struggle in the hotter months! :)
Holy crap, I’m gonna have to watch this video again tomorrow when I don’t have 4 beers in me. 🍻
XD
I would love to see you making table using this joinery.
Waiting...
I'll make something (probably a stool) very soon! :)
@@PaskMakes three or four legged stool would be awesome.
Very nice joint and great way to simplify the complexity, well done. Cheers.
Thanks! I couldn't actually think of another way to do it! :)
You are an amazing woodworker! All of your videos are interesting and informative.
Thank you Judy! :)
So many possibilities for knockdown furniture.
Awesome joinery. It's pure artistry.
Head scratcher is right! How cool though! Great skill, I need to come learn from you.
Glad you liked it Henry! :)
This would work awesome on a camping table!
Really looking forward to see what you can do with this joint. Great job!
If you are still interested, traditionally german carpenter's sawhorse are made with this joint for the legs
Nice. On a bench or a table I bet it would look cool to have the legs taper in both directions, so a wide bit just below the top, then tapering into the joint, and down to the feet, and maybe maintaining the dovetail angles all the way down. I might have to try that.
Thanks - glad you liked it! :)
very elegant joint. Think I'll have to watch the video a couple of times to get my head around it though. Excellent video. Thanks for sharing. Best wishes
Damn Pask, I might never get here.
You do a great job of making it look attainable though! Hats off to ya
Nice! Showcasing the joint in something like a table lamp would be cool.
With a second panel near the bottom for support? Or just do a left side joint on three or four sided plate near the top where the light fixture goes?
Really interesting joint and quite complex watching it come together, although I imagine with jigs and practice it would be pretty fast to do. Cant wait to see what you do with it. Thankyou 👍👍👍
Glad you liked it mate! It actually doesn't take that long, even the procedure to get the templates. I reckon I could make the tenons, the templates and cut the four mortises in around half an hour! :)
Crikey mate, you know how to make my head hurt with all those angles!!…🤯 lovely looking joint and can be used in so many builds, worth saving this video 🏆👍🏼😊
Yes, it made my head hurt too! ;)
Pask Makes ha ha ha...serves you right!…😉😊
Would be great legs for a knock-down shaving horse.
Neil, if you off set your top and bottom marks, on the template, to one side that would make it easy to determine which side of the template to use. This is a great tutorial. I have been wanting to make some travel furniture that breaks down for easy transport and a join like this will do nicely. Thank you!
Thanks, that would make it easier! Glad you liked it! :)
I was thinking adding an arrow to show which way the leg would be tilted. So that it is always correct upside down or right side up.
Beautiful joint, but my head hurts from trying to understand. LOL Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Don! You should give it a go, when you've made one it becomes pretty straightforward and makes more sense! :)
I love this joint! I watched your video over ten times so I'd be sure to get it right. Thank you!
I really like how it looks!
I really LOVE the joint .. a bit tricky is an understatement. The template is the only way those measurements could be captured. BUT it would make strong joints that only get stronger and tighter over time without glue. And still a light tap and the legs could be removed. Those angles are murder for me.
I think you're right Clyde, I couldn't think of another way to mark it out! :)
Tricky, but very attractive. Thanks for sharing !
Wow that was complex but you explained it clearly. Thanks for sharing. : )
That's some beautiful work! As usual! Keep it up!
PROPPA GORGEOUS job mate, um chuffed wish that design, as an Welter i got bonked , keep up the good work
Thanks mate! :)
Wow... that's really ingenious Neil! But I think it's worth it... it looks great! Cheers and congratulations!
Thanks very much - glad you like it mate! :)
So cool... I am becoming a 'Pask makes' fan these days...
I bet that joint would make for a great splayed leg mid-century modern style piece if you wanted exposed joinery
I was scratching my head a fair bit earlier today, now that I sit down to watch this, I guess I know why. That's really cool Neil! I guess it's some of the simpler thins in life that can often seem even more complicated, right?
Absolutely, at first look I wasn't sure how to go about this but now I can knock them out in only a few minutes! :)
Thank you for sharing this video. Very instructional.
No worries Sean! :)
Another easy way (for some) is doing it 3d in some program like Catia or solidworks or similar. Do a fancy shape. Subtract it from another solid thing (in any orientation you want). Look at both pieces, do some technical drawings for templates, or scribble some key measurements to ensure perfect geometry on the real pieces. Or go even further with some G-code and 3d route it, or 3d print it.
On long taper connection, a quick hack for perfect fit - wrap sandpaper on the tenon and use it to touch up the female side. Removing the sandpaper will make the tenon go further up but the surfaces will be perfectly aligned with respect to each other.
I actually started doing this in SketchUp I just haven't had time to finish it. I'm planning on making a pdf with examples at different angles. :)
here is a quick 5min catia design.. it's about the same as yours. 12degree dovetail, 3 degree draft angle, 10 degree to front and to the side as positioning (refference is the median plane of the tapered dovetail.. (my dovetail is angled in all directions including thickness)here is a link with some drawings and pictures and the actual model made in Catia V5 R21
drive.google.com/open?id=1fl9To-sz7HoCrDKcT3IXtbhpb3N2nNvV
if you need any other angles or shapes just contact me. I'm passionate about 3d design in Catia. I am an engineer in automotive and use this Catia to design everything i need from nuts and bolts to car parts, engines, etc.
Ps: Drawings are made in millimeters and with 1st angle projection (Europe style, not US style which is the "salad bowl" 3rd angle)
Simply amazing and complexly beautiful!😁 amazing work Neil!😊👍
Thanks very much Jed - glad you enjoyed it mate! :)
You’re welcome and I always 😉👍
that is a cute angle
Haha! :)
Dorian Bracht could make a whole addendum to his Joint Venture series by explaining his layout techniques
Awesome video. Thanks
super clever and very nice design🍀
Glad you like it Lukas! :)
Nicely done!...
Nice video Neil! Thanks for sharing.😎👍JP
Hello Neil, a good and stable connection ❗I like it very much. 👍 👍 👍
Great.
I think that I could just about do it if I used one of those compound angle mitre hand saws like a Nobex or something.
I really love the maths element to this
Need to keep a very clear head on this one. Great video.
Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls
Pure skill!
Nice!
Good job like always.
Very cool joint. Would be great for a stool
I love it!
Impressive! Thanks :)
Thanks, this was useful
Impressive
Thanks mate! :)
I'm wondering if this would be strong enough for a stool. Because I'm pretty sure you could get some amazing looking stools out of it if it is.
Who says you don’t need math? Great video!!!
Just fantastic! :)
Genius
Amazing
Really really cool... only a few dozen hundred watches and it’ll be easy as tying my shoe.
why use a plastic template if you already have the sacrificial piece?
great vid, thanks for sharing!
And this kids is the reason you should pay attention in math class
amazing 👍
nice job 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
How dare you, Neil?
You've said in your Bio: "(...) Not meant as tutorials (...)"
C'mon! Your videos are full classes!
Keep up with your great work, mate.
Great tips using the plastic sheet for templates, mate 👍
Looking forward to seeing your project that incorporates this.👌
How's Dodge doing?
Thanks Bill! Dodge is getting there, he has to stay in his cage for a few more weeks to stop him from running. But other than that he's good! :)
Pask Makes few more weeks... He'd be rife with cabin fever by now...
awesome geometry exercise!! congrats :)
Glad you liked it Carlos! :)
We had to do these joints in wood work at school to make saw horses I couldn't get my head around them then
My head hurts!
Man you are good you get all the cool wood to work with and get to ride kangaroos and chase crocodiles around to dammit man and I live in ohio usa in the cold great videos keep it up man
good video
Really cool
Glad you think so Jeff! :)
I do think that is cool. Really well explained.
If you write a book I will definitely buy. Charge me 10x its value, I will still buy.
A lot of work to get the first one done, but after that... And yes it does very attractive.
Glad you liked it Peter! Yes it does seem like a lot of work but it took much longer to show and explain, the cross section piece could be made in minutes. :)
Magnifique, cela paraît simple mais je vais devoir m'entraîner ( beaucoup).......
Merci! :)
Holy sh!t, amazebawlz...A compound STD.....lol
Haha! :)
This would be so cool as legs on a stool
I think that will be happening soon! :)
Couldn't you just make a jig to hold your top and bottom templates in place so the whole thing 'wraps' around the board and all you have to do is mark lines around it?
You could and I thought about that too. It would only be good for the same thickness top and the same angles of splay. If your next project differed you would need to make a new one. Also you would need to make two, one for left leg splay and one for the right. The templates aren't difficult to make and easy enough to use to layout the dovetails. :)
Can you please explain it again in another video?
Fair play to you Neil, that's some involved joinery there. Just become a patreon
Thanks very much James! :)
cool
Whoa!!! So nice!! I can't do complex stuff like this. Not yet anyway! Lol #WoodworkingGoals
Keep practising and you'll get there! :)
Amazing joint! Where do you find/call the plastic sheet that you made your templates from?
Amazing. But I feel like I'm back in geometry class. Hahaha!
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Rising tapered dovetail.