Really appreciate the connection you drew between Frankl's book and The Pianist. Id always thought similarly. And the sister scene is my absolute favorite of the film will always make me cry if I watch it
A subtle point in this scene that won’t be noticed by a non-German speaker is that Hosenfeld addressed him using the polite “Sie.” Every other time Germans address Jews in the movie, it’s always with the familiar “du,” which is disrespectful and condescending when used to address someone with whom you’re not close with (or how one would address a child).
I've read this film was shown to German teens and it wasn't a great hit bc the pianist was so passive. Never fought back, witnessed the ghetto uprising from behind the wall. Helpless, depending on others. My memory of this film is the pianist's friend who jeered at the Germans who were incarcerated by the Soviets, then regreted it.
Everyone should read “Man’s Search For Meaning” it’s the only book in high school I’ve read more than once. It really sticks with you. I went to an all boy catholic high school, so it’s not just for Jewish people. It’s for men. All men.
Cannot watch as it’s so utterly disturbing that evil was perpetrated so casually & so regimented to millions of innocent children women & men+ elderly. The mentality was unprecedented cruelty & evil.
I found this scene very troubling. Would the German officer turn him in if he wasn't a piano player? Send him to his death? Let him starve to death if he didn't play well? If he lied about being a artist and was merely, say, a salesman, should the officer abandon him? Is the life of an artist more valuable than a waiter?
Yes, it is more valuable. By the very definition artist is rarer and harder and requires more time to make the skill.. So it is more valuable, it has more value. Same way someone making a boat from a tree has more value than the skill of counting up to 3.
Wilm Hosenfeld was a good man and has been reincarnated. He will be a great man in this life too, you watch. I'll come back one day and update this page.
does it matter if you as a individual are good if the people you support or work for commits a lot of horrible actions doesn't mean we should hate a group of people but you can definitely condemn them and what they stand for or their actions for example not all southerners supported slavery but most did so you can rightly judge and condemn them for slavery not hate but condemn.
and youre forgetting the most important issue of all - the fact that had you lived in the south back in those days you likely would have behaved the same way as they did - maybe a bit worse, maybe a bit better. that is the danger of virtue signaling in the modern age. in fact you may have been a really bad person had you been born in the 20s in germany. it may make you feel better believing the comforting lies you tell yourself but its not the truth.
@@swann433 well put, my thoughts exactly. I’ve tried to explain this to people and it’s surprising how many people say “not me!” “ I would never!”.. How can you know that if you’ve never been tested in this way? How do you know what you would choose, where you would draw the line, what you might’ve become? We can only hope we’d be courageous enough to defend the innocent but the truth is we shall never know, unless god forbid we live to experience such horror. Most of us would fall short of heroism
@@rayflintmunny4799 if growing up means watching movies made by convicted child rapists and supporting the actors who worked with him knowing what he did I’ll pass
@@chase1bandz Erwin Shrodinger was a nonce, does that mean we throw quantum physics out as well? Motorways are a result of the Nazis, shall we do away with them? I think it's a questionable worldview where throwing the baby out with the bathwater seems valid. You can just stream the movie without giving Polanski a penny, also how do you know that they knew what he was up to? I used to be in a band with someone I later found out was a rapist, naturally I severed all ties with him but does this mean no one should work with me again because we were once associated? He is an undeniably reprehensible part of the telling of this story, but it's a true story that should be heard out of deference to the real people affected by it and it illuminates aspects of humanity that should be illuminated. The writer, actors and real people from history still deserve respect and ultimately good art is good art. And I honestly say if you can't make that distinction between art and artist, especially a movie where hundreds are involved then I think I'm fairly right in saying, grow up. Your attitude seems emblematic of a worldview I find troubling hence the barbed comment.
@@chase1bandz - I understand your dilemma, it's much easier to separate the art from the artist when they're no longer alive and profiting from our money... for instance, I'll never give one more cent to JK Rowling, but HP Lovecraft (who was a white supremacist) is still a genius in my eyes and I own most of his bibliographie.
the scene is subjective, but you're review acts as if it's objective. you make a lot of assumptions. certain scenes mean different things to different people. Harwood and Polanski created those scenes to be subjective.
@@9isxllx it's invalid because the N-zis at least had the decency to shame fully hide the existence of their conc. camps and try to hide the evidence of what they were doing to their victims from the rest of the world. Whereas the zios are actually broadcasting their crimes on tiktok and bragging openly about doing similar things. Also palestinians actually fought back and gave their oppressors a black eye on Oct 7. Whereas the victims of the N-zis managed no such rebellion against THEIR oppressors.
Y'all will not humanise Nazi for the complexities of cinema, eff that fantastic film thoe made be respectful for the Jewish culture before I saw the film I dint know the history I used to post Hitler memes nw I cringe at my younger self , also free Palestine!
Remember the director Roman Polanski is a Polish Jew and survived the Krakow ghetto. Heck, at one point some Germans tried to use him as target practice. If anyone would portray Nazis as one dimensional bad guys it would be Polanski, yet he went the complex route. Maybe something worth looking into.
@@SEAZNDragon I saw zone of interest, fantastic film you can be a complex and 3 dimensional character but still be an evil piece of shit , I hate that the pianist had to be exceptional to be treated like a human being by that Nazi officer also the audacity for him to ask for help at the end what of the countless lives he contributed in destroying, I think film nerds like videos essays get so lost in the romance and idealism of cinema they overlook maybe intentionally the realistic morality of the character yes well written but bad is still bad
you're asking for a political analysis. this guy deals with film and literature. ask for an analysis of a film of the region. like Lebanon. Gaza, Exodus, Paradise Now, etc.
Whilst in times of darkness, even the smallest acts of good can shine the brightest
Just watched this for the first time yesterday. Incredible timing.
Really appreciate the connection you drew between Frankl's book and The Pianist. Id always thought similarly. And the sister scene is my absolute favorite of the film will always make me cry if I watch it
A subtle point in this scene that won’t be noticed by a non-German speaker is that Hosenfeld addressed him using the polite “Sie.” Every other time Germans address Jews in the movie, it’s always with the familiar “du,” which is disrespectful and condescending when used to address someone with whom you’re not close with (or how one would address a child).
Good point .
When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.
Glossing over your videos, I like most of these movies.
Great wording and work from you.
Subscribed.
This movie blasted me
I've read this film was shown to German teens and it wasn't a great hit bc the pianist was so passive. Never fought back, witnessed the ghetto uprising from behind the wall. Helpless, depending on others. My memory of this film is the pianist's friend who jeered at the Germans who were incarcerated by the Soviets, then regreted it.
My fav actor!
THIS GUY is Luca Changretta. What an actor.
Enjoyed the video, had me drawn in and gave me new perspectives here. Deserves more attention.
Oh boy, here they come
Oh yeah, they come in force.
Fr they all come when these types of videos are made
Roman Polanski raped a child.
Everyone should read “Man’s Search For Meaning” it’s the only book in high school I’ve read more than once. It really sticks with you. I went to an all boy catholic high school, so it’s not just for Jewish people. It’s for men. All men.
Read that book in my late teens and many times since. It changed my life.
You reminded me of this gem after so many years .Many thanks.
What is the beautiful piano ambient music in the background you used?
My favorite movie
This movie is grim
He needed a glass of fresh milk.
Cannot watch as it’s so utterly disturbing that evil was perpetrated so casually & so regimented to millions of innocent children women & men+ elderly. The mentality was unprecedented cruelty & evil.
Sadly, not unprecedented.
Only S tier pianists survive. They kill all mediocre pianists.
Schindler's list, the Pianist, these are easy shots. Munich, now thats a masterpiece.
I found this scene very troubling. Would the German officer turn him in if he wasn't a piano player? Send him to his death? Let him starve to death if he didn't play well? If he lied about being a artist and was merely, say, a salesman, should the officer abandon him? Is the life of an artist more valuable than a waiter?
Yes, it is more valuable. By the very definition artist is rarer and harder and requires more time to make the skill.. So it is more valuable, it has more value. Same way someone making a boat from a tree has more value than the skill of counting up to 3.
@@philmcclenaghan7056 I hope your children are talented.
@@MrElliotc02 there are no talented people, just people who have resolve.
Wilm Hosenfeld was a good man and has been reincarnated. He will be a great man in this life too, you watch. I'll come back one day and update this page.
This officer saved many people during the war.
does it matter if you as a individual are good if the people you support or work for commits a lot of horrible actions doesn't mean we should
hate a group of people but you can definitely condemn them and what they stand for or their actions for example not all southerners supported slavery but most did so you can rightly judge and condemn them for slavery not hate but condemn.
and youre forgetting the most important issue of all - the fact that had you lived in the south back in those days you likely would have behaved the same way as they did - maybe a bit worse, maybe a bit better. that is the danger of virtue signaling in the modern age. in fact you may have been a really bad person had you been born in the 20s in germany. it may make you feel better believing the comforting lies you tell yourself but its not the truth.
My family in Arkansas served in the Confederate army but we did not own any slaves.
@@swann433 well put, my thoughts exactly. I’ve tried to explain this to people and it’s surprising how many people say “not me!” “ I would never!”.. How can you know that if you’ve never been tested in this way? How do you know what you would choose, where you would draw the line, what you might’ve become? We can only hope we’d be courageous enough to defend the innocent but the truth is we shall never know, unless god forbid we live to experience such horror. Most of us would fall short of heroism
and you had been born in the right time and place you would most likely be in his shoes too...easy to virtue signal away but its not honest...
the pianist, come and see, Schindler's lists are all great (:
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Open borders to Israel.
Ok based
I can’t bring myself to watch this movie because of Roman Polanski
grow up
@@rayflintmunny4799 growing up means supporting movies by convicted ped0files? No thanks
@@rayflintmunny4799 if growing up means watching movies made by convicted child rapists and supporting the actors who worked with him knowing what he did I’ll pass
@@chase1bandz Erwin Shrodinger was a nonce, does that mean we throw quantum physics out as well? Motorways are a result of the Nazis, shall we do away with them? I think it's a questionable worldview where throwing the baby out with the bathwater seems valid. You can just stream the movie without giving Polanski a penny, also how do you know that they knew what he was up to? I used to be in a band with someone I later found out was a rapist, naturally I severed all ties with him but does this mean no one should work with me again because we were once associated? He is an undeniably reprehensible part of the telling of this story, but it's a true story that should be heard out of deference to the real people affected by it and it illuminates aspects of humanity that should be illuminated. The writer, actors and real people from history still deserve respect and ultimately good art is good art. And I honestly say if you can't make that distinction between art and artist, especially a movie where hundreds are involved then I think I'm fairly right in saying, grow up. Your attitude seems emblematic of a worldview I find troubling hence the barbed comment.
@@chase1bandz - I understand your dilemma, it's much easier to separate the art from the artist when they're no longer alive and profiting from our money... for instance, I'll never give one more cent to JK Rowling, but HP Lovecraft (who was a white supremacist) is still a genius in my eyes and I own most of his bibliographie.
the scene is subjective, but you're review acts as if it's objective. you make a lot of assumptions. certain scenes mean different things to different people. Harwood and Polanski created those scenes to be subjective.
I'm tired of all these "pianists" taking interest on my loans.
Stick up your Jew hating rectum,
Sounds like what’s happening in Gaza
the comparison is invalid on many levels that it would be futile to try to convince you.
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Hey, can you explain how the comparison is invalid?
@@9isxllx it's invalid because the N-zis at least had the decency to shame fully hide the existence of their conc. camps and try to hide the evidence of what they were doing to their victims from the rest of the world. Whereas the zios are actually broadcasting their crimes on tiktok and bragging openly about doing similar things. Also palestinians actually fought back and gave their oppressors a black eye on Oct 7. Whereas the victims of the N-zis managed no such rebellion against THEIR oppressors.
Y'all will not humanise Nazi for the complexities of cinema, eff that fantastic film thoe made be respectful for the Jewish culture before I saw the film I dint know the history I used to post Hitler memes nw I cringe at my younger self , also free Palestine!
Remember the director Roman Polanski is a Polish Jew and survived the Krakow ghetto. Heck, at one point some Germans tried to use him as target practice. If anyone would portray Nazis as one dimensional bad guys it would be Polanski, yet he went the complex route. Maybe something worth looking into.
@@SEAZNDragon I saw zone of interest, fantastic film you can be a complex and 3 dimensional character but still be an evil piece of shit , I hate that the pianist had to be exceptional to be treated like a human being by that Nazi officer also the audacity for him to ask for help at the end what of the countless lives he contributed in destroying, I think film nerds like videos essays get so lost in the romance and idealism of cinema they overlook maybe intentionally the realistic morality of the character yes well written but bad is still bad
@@SEAZNDragon He raped a child.
@@haroldbalzac6336 She forgave him.
@@windycityliz7711 And? He is still a child rapist.
can you make a analysis over Palastiner-Isreali war ?, Its a realy important event that needs to be analysed while its happening not after it.
you're asking for a political analysis. this guy deals with film and literature. ask for an analysis of a film of the region. like Lebanon. Gaza, Exodus, Paradise Now, etc.
I get you might care deeply about the war, but this channel analyses films so it would be largely unwelcomed to start covering ongoing current events
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA
What does this have to do with the video
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