I have to say, that is shockingly impressive how quiet that bike is, especially for an ebike. Not to mention it seems like a great bike to ride as well. Well done Giant. And kudos to you guys for another great bike review!
Great review, I have been after a replacement for my 2019 Levo which sounds like a tank and watching this video makes me so happy that I am picking up one of these beauties in 4 days. I am stunned at how quiet it is, thanks for the video .
I was testing the 2021 Trance and I loved it but decided to wait for the 2022 model. This new one looks great with smaller motor and lots of upgrades. I really like what Giant did and I think this is the best Ebike on the market for 2022 and still way cheaper then Specialized. It has amazing integration on the bar not that huge Bosch integration. So my new bike for 2022 is that Trance.
Thanks for that great ride review! Your laughter says how much you enjoyed the bike. Based on your review (and Steve Jones on EMBN) I changed my pre-order from a 2022 Reign E+1 to this bike (Trance X E+1 with alloy frame, full XT, 750 wh, and Fox suspension) as its more suitable to my terrain in the foothills of the Rocky Mountains around Calgary, Bragg Creek, Banff, Canmore. Thanks for the first feedback on the PWX3 motor! It looks/sounds great!
I have the trance x E, and I would go with the 625 wh over the 750 unless it doesn't add to weight .. I have rode all day and not used all the 625 . I usually only ride 3 or 4 hours a day and usually have 60% or more battery left, if it was up to me I rather it be lighter and have a 400 wh battery , and then if you go on a really long ride just add the battery extension .
Your reviews do the best job of expressing what is going on while you are riding, add just enough of why that is happening to make sense of those tech features, and do it all in a very thoughtful manner. You deserve many more compliments than that, but that's the best I could think of except to say they are the reviews I respect the most. I am a 72 year old rider looking for his second ebike to ride the mountains in central PA. My first/current is a Schwinn Axum 29" hardtail with a Bafang BBSHD 160 nm drive, Rockshox 120mm 35 Gold RL fork, and a Box Three 9 speed drive group built by myself. The bike is completely silent except for tire noise and I really like it because it climbs anything. The reason I am looking for a new bike is because my wore out body is demanding suspension. This bike looks like a very good prospect but my question is how much will I notice the lower power of this motor. I climb 1200' in less than a mile on many of my rides. Should I be worried out less power?
Hey thanks for the kind words. I really appreciate that. I wouldn’t think that you’d need to be concerned about less power. This bike had plenty for all of my riding. I’m not sure about your e bike conversion but this bike is only pedal assist. No throttle.
@ Connor have had more time on the bike and its such a gem. It makes me want to try every steep trail that has scared me off in the past :). The suspension as you pointed it out, is so darn good whether climbing or descending, so plush and efficient. With the E+0, I was mulling about whether I would need the extender or a bigger battery, but at about 10-12% battery use, I'm averaging about 2K ft of climbing, 6-8 mi of distance with the auto mode on. I think the bike is more capable than I am :). I did shorten the stem and raise the stack with spacers. Thanks again for your review, I keep coming back and watching it.
Great demo review. I saw one at the local giant dealer with a ton of Spealized in stock. And we have 2 older Specialized RHrs here. I am going to have to go back and take a 2nd look! Thanks!
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I think Yamaha nailed it with the new motor and the bigger battery and how quiet it is...if only the Reign came in carbon as well, that would be awesome! But the Reign is an enduro bike and needs to be rigid and tough, so the aluminum was the way to go. However, both carbon and aluminum Giant bikes have lifetime warranty so they are pretty good value! Oh, and this new 85Nm motor from Yamaha with the 750 battery will equip the 2022 Haibike Enduro and Allmtn models! Great video as always!!!
@@bikersedge I was sold. I'm a fan of fast flow trails like that. I could imagine when it's dry be a lot of fun if you can get a little loose in the turns.
Yamaha makes great motors. I wish they were easier to swap into other bikes. Yeti 160e with the pwx3 would be a dream. Giants are great though and paired with a high quality Yamaha offering is tough to beat.
@@bikersedge Absolutely! Question; Have you ridden the Merida e160 8k or 9k or the Norco Sight VLT's? If so, how you compare them to the Trace here and also, maybe rank them if you could?
I have the Reign 2 E+ coming in this season as my personal bike and my boss has this bike (but the Advanced 0) coming in. Super pumped to try them both.
@@bikersedge as someone with a "normal bike" I figured if I was getting an ebike as a second bike I am going as big as possible. Mullet, big travel, big motor and battery ahah.
First off, brilliant review style. It’s challenging to narrate your thoughts while zipping through trails at speeds that could present problems if you get distracted. I enjoyed the review, am looking at a E+0 (found a pretty good deal on one). I think the E+0, 2 bikes are fantastic value for money. Sure, a Yeti 160E , Specialized Levo etc. might be superior all around, but at about 35-45% more, it’s arguable that you really get that much more performance at that price. I think Giant is making great strides here with these new line of bikes. Subbing your channel!
Hey thanks! Glad you liked it. I don’t think there’s anything inherently superior about the Yeti or Specialized. The Trance will give any ebike a run for is money. It’s easily in my top 3.
@@bikersedge Thanks for that perspective. I test rode in a parking lot and no kidding, it climbs like a cat. The power is crazy, I don’t see me in the overboost levels and the auto mode on the motor is pretty impressive. Coupled with live valve on the E+0, color me impressed on Giant’s new bikes. The rear stay length is longer than I expected though. Any thoughts on doing a mullet setup on these? Thanks again, appreciate any input!
I personally wouldn’t want to make a mullet out of a dedicated 29. I think it compromises the geometry too much without the added benefit of a shorter wheelbase. The chainstays are still the same length so the bike doesn’t get shorter.
@@bikersedge I got the E+0 this weekend and took it to a nearby trail today which has climbs that usually kill me on my acoustic trail bike. We finished the entire route in 40 min and the bike made me superhuman on those climbs. Your review and Steve’s (EMTB) really sold me on the bike. Downhill, it was as fast as my courage and the live valve ate everything up. Giant really has a winner here! Thanks again for doing the review (unfortunately I’m not in your neck of the woods).
excellent review, thanks. Especially like your comments on motor noise. I have kept away from ebikes because of that. btw, what trail is that? Looks awesome.
First I want to say your videos are one of the best in TH-cam, are spot on , without spend so much time for geo and components details.true Rider review...thank you!!! Also We waiting reign e+ review. Thoughts:I noticed that giant delivering medium frames bikes ( reign e+ and trance e+) with 125mm dropper post and 50mm stem, this doesn't make sense, it's stupid.also the rear hub that using on entry level models (giant tracker boost or SRAM 746 or formula are all the same), is awful.
Very nice review Connor. You and Zach are hitting it out of the park! I am curious- How does this bike compare with your Spur on the Downhill sections? Is the E- Trance as fun? Or does the weight hamper that fun downhill? I have never ridden an eBike or any bike heaver than 35 pounds.
Hey thanks! It's tough to compare them. They're not similar at all. The Trance E is fun in a different way. It's fast, smooth and motors through everything. The Spur is quick and zippy. They both have their merits.
Nice trail at 6:19! Nice bike. Amazing how quiet it is with no hub buzz or chain slap. Well done Giant. So was that the E+ 2 you were riding with the Starry Night color?
I have the E+2 reign, got it last jan. 2022. Sadly after 1.5k miles of riding, motor seized. I suspect it overheated. Waiting for giant to warranty the motor. I hope giant has good customer service🙏. LBS stated giant will try to fix the motor or if not fixable will send me a new motor. Waiting for 2 weeks now🙏
Last Thursday a shop in Sacramento had 3 or 4 of the 2022 carbon e pro2's. Pretty sure they're gone by now. Haven't been able to find much info until today. Funny they would be selling them before any kind of introduction.
Hey thanks for the kind words. I think they’re pretty different. This one is full power and heavy. Kinda nice for those really steep climbs and fast descents. The rise is nice because it feels way closer to a regular bike.
When are you guys going to review the 2022 Giant Reign E+2? I have one on order but not sure if I should go with that or the Trance X Advanced? I mostly ride steep, fast, and chunky SoCal terrain.
nice review. kind of weird if they managed to get the DPS to not feel like shit. I haven't been on a non XC bike where DPS felt good. props to giant for that. Also, the ONLY thing I dislike about my Rise is the sound. This bike not rattling "sounds" so incredible.
Hey thanks! I like the DPS on a lot of bikes. Usually it’s reserved for shorter travel hikes and maybe that’s why it feels a little harsh at times. Not so much the shock but the limitations of the bike and it’s travel. I personally think a shock makes only a small difference in how a bikes suspension feels.
Awesome review, love how quiet it is. Looked at one in shop today, 25kg Carbon makes it heavier than the new 2022 Alloy Reign? Not sure how that happened!
J'ai essayé un Giant reign e +0 je n'ai pas vraiment aimé malgré qu'il soit très bien équipé. Je suis passé au Trance e+2, qui est pourtant moins bien équipé, quel bonheur, ce vélo correspond mieux à mon usage. En plus j'ai la batterie 800wh dessus. Mon marchand de vélo me dit que la nouvelle suspension électronique disponible sur les versions supérieures e+1 et e+0 n'apporte pas grand chose, compliquée à régler et pas forcément intéressante à l'usage. Par contre je poserais les plaquettes ventilées à ailettes de shimano et peut-être mettre des meilleurs disques XT. En tout cas belle revue réaliste. Je suis passé d'un turbo levo Gen1 à celui-ci et j'adore. C'est vraiment un excellent vélo, je retrouve la souplesse et le silence du Specialized en mieux. Merci.
I have read a few other reviews that state the bike feels pretty planted to the ground likely due to the length of the chain stays and length overall. I have also read it has a very forward riding position keeping your weight forward. Can you comment on the playfulness of the bike?
I've watched both of your reviews of the Giant and the Yeti 160e. If both the Giant and the Yeti 160e are in the garage which gets more of your ride time attention? I realize there is a pretty good price difference, but it there wasn't which do you grab?? Thx
Man you’re going to make me choose? I think the Trance X is my favorite e bike of the year. You can beat the suspension and motor. But I wish it was a little more burly. So if I could have a Trance X with the travel and geo of the 160 I’d be writing a check right now.
Hi Connor, ordered this bike, XT Build in alloy frame, size X-LARGE. Thinking of putting a Wolftooth Geoshift headset in to slacken it 1 degree. What do you think?
An e bike like this would be great for multiple laps on that trail! The climb usually limits me to a single run. Curious did you climb up on BST from the south? Didn’t recognize the climb trail. But it sounds like it’s even more draining than the climbs I usually take up there.
Would you take this bike over the Canyon Spectral ON CF9? I’m trying to decide that very thing as I found a lightly used Canyon with XTR brakes, Fox factory suspension but has the Shimano EP8 motor. These new Giant looks dialed even though the components may not be as good.
I'm looking at the 2022 Giant site and see a Trance X Advanced E+ in an E+0 and an E+2. Does that mean there is no E+1? Is this the 2, and what's the weight on it?
I have trance x 3 e+ 2021, do you think I should update to a 2022 on aluminum? The devaluation of used ebike is only 10% here in Mexico I should take advantage of it, what do think? I was thinking on the new reign but I am more all mountain and trail rider, I do some easy Enduro with the trance x without issue
The 2022 has the new pwx3 motor with much higher ground clearance, and a new frame design, but all the geo is the same, except for a much lower standover height, and a 750 Wh battery. The 2022 also looks much better imo. Can’t go wrong with the new bike.
Did your motor housing made no noice at all?? I just bought the exact same bike that you are testing in this video and mine makes more noice then I would like. I am pretty sure it is coming from the motor.
You might want to get it looked at. This was the quietest e bike motor I've ridden. It's always going to make noise, but it's significantly quieter than the Shimano and Bosch motors I've ridden.
@@bikersedge I might not have explained it correctly. when in use, so pedaling or climbing its fine. Its just when I am coasting/descending when it rattles a little. I checked al bolts and the chain clutch is engaged. It sounds a little like how the other motors rattle but less, stil a lot more then the bike in your video...
@@bikersedge When I lift the back wheel up of the ground and let it fall down it makes this "clack" noice. My downhill bike falls back down and is dead quiet. Really hoped that this e bike would be quiet like that as well.. Did the bike you tested made a similar noice?
I didn’t really notice a rattle at all on this one. My full time e bike has a Shimano EP8 motor which rattles a ton. Maybe I’m just a little desensitized to rattles on e bikes.
that rattle u hear is when u hit a square edge bump. i do have that rattle on mine, but less now since i added a fox 38. so my guess that rattle is even more accentuated by a harsh fox 36. Rattle is always there, even with my older reign e, but more/louder if the front fork is not as plush.
Always real world tests, how Connor can talk while bombing down a hill is beyond me. Other reviews were mentioning the Automatic mode vs manually going from say 3 to 5 to boost as a way of saving total battery, wonder if you can comment on that in the future. Bikers Edge walks the talk, I've purchased a new Giant from them, steller service, well trained staff.
Most of the time I do a pretty poor job of riding and talking. it's surprisingly tough. I ran the automatic mode for a minute and I think the idea is solid. I liked having control of how much assist I got with the manual modes though.
@@bikersedge which one do you want the most? im thinking adding a trail oriented ebike in addition to my reign e or just replace the reign e with the 2022 model. tnx
I’d have to say right now I’d probably take the Trance. I’ve been riding the Rise for the last year and it’s nice to ride something new. It would be tough to give up the Rise though. There’s not an ebike quite like it on the DH.
@@archietamayo76 they’re fairly similar. I prefer the motor on the Giant over the SC. The SC felt a bit more maneuverable and a bit more like a trail bike. The Giant felt heavier and a bit burlier.
I'm waiting on a Trek Rail 9 as I didn't like the 2021 Trance E+, but man this year's Trance is looking like a great machine. What's you opinion? Trek Rail or Giant Trance?
nice video but I would have liked to have seen more off the bike instead off your face :D also too bad about the shortage of bikes! if the bike was in stock I would have bought it right away after seeing this video ;) also I wonder if maybe it would be possible to make it a MULLET to make the bike more agressive riding downhill?
A mullet doesn’t necessarily make the bike more aggressive downhill. Just makes the back where smaller is all. I would avoid it on this bike. Your BB is going to get pretty low and you won’t really gain too much benefit with the smaller back wheel. The chainstays won’t get shorter. Also what’s wrong with my face?
I try to keep these short and to the point. I like to focus more on how they feel on the trail. Builds, prices and components are a quick google search away.
I dunno, before 170/180 was strictly downhill. Now almost every bike is doing it, and traveling at faster speeds. need more suspension folks on run of the mill emtbs
Not sure I agree. Not every bike needs to be an ultra capable DH bike. It's nice to have some variety. Giant makes the Reign E if you want/need more travel.
19 miles for a adventure ride?!😅 that's a short ride for me, heck it's my long ride to one of the trail heads for a my all day ride. Long adventure rides in my book are 80-100 miles, so bring a extra battery if you ride with me.
@@bikersedge 😂🤣 I'm a big endurance rider so I'm all about the long days and big miles. This type of riding pays off big if your also into bike packing.
@@bikersedge those races aren't easy. I just love being out on the bike so I've really built up my riding endurance over the years. Now I'm good for 6-8 hour epic rides, loaded up with food and water.
They are great bikes but hopefully the controller doesn't go out. My Trance X has been down for 2 months waiting for a replacement 🤨 my bike shop said there are 6 more trance X waiting for the replacement.
I really hope they’ve pulled their head out their asses at Giant and sorted what was one of the most badly designed e-bikes. The suspension kinematics is still really good though. Their motor was strong and had a good feel to it, but the bike was poorly designed and it had such a lack of integration and a rats nets of cables inside the downtube. And holy hell were they heavy! Every bike that was sold, you just knew that it would be back in less than a month, and generally, they were. The wiring wasn’t waterproof enough, the controller wasn’t waterproof enough and to “fix” the controller, Giant just put a waterproof silicone inside, but it really didn’t do a good enough job. To combat this, owners used to put a plastic bag over it to help reduce the chances of water getting in… on a £5k bike! Crazy. I’ve had lots of Giant bikes over the years, and they were a great brand, but they really didn’t care or want to know when we asked what are they going to do to fix the issues, because many shops have tried. Hopefully, these new 2022 bikes will go some way to rectifying this. I hope so. Either way, I’m glad I no longer work for a Giant dealer anymore. Forgot to mention that your trails look incredible 👍
I have to say, that is shockingly impressive how quiet that bike is, especially for an ebike. Not to mention it seems like a great bike to ride as well. Well done Giant. And kudos to you guys for another great bike review!
Hey thanks! I’m pretty surprised by how amazing this thing is. Problem is I want one now.
Great review, I have been after a replacement for my 2019 Levo which sounds like a tank and watching this video makes me so happy that I am picking up one of these beauties in 4 days. I am stunned at how quiet it is, thanks for the video
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Hows the bike buddy are you loving it?👍🏻
@@Emtbwebb yeah mate I am very happy with it
Already brilliant in 2021, this 2022 one will be the King. Specialised need to slash prices.
Giant are selling out fast now! Specialized are way over priced
This review sold me on this bike. I picked mine up from you guys last week. Thank you so much for doing this!
So stoked we could help you find the right bike. You’re going to love it!
I was testing the 2021 Trance and I loved it but decided to wait for the 2022 model. This new one looks great with smaller motor and lots of upgrades. I really like what Giant did and I think this is the best Ebike on the market for 2022 and still way cheaper then Specialized. It has amazing integration on the bar not that huge Bosch integration. So my new bike for 2022 is that Trance.
Thanks for that great ride review! Your laughter says how much you enjoyed the bike. Based on your review (and Steve Jones on EMBN) I changed my pre-order from a 2022 Reign E+1 to this bike (Trance X E+1 with alloy frame, full XT, 750 wh, and Fox suspension) as its more suitable to my terrain in the foothills of the Rocky Mountains around Calgary, Bragg Creek, Banff, Canmore. Thanks for the first feedback on the PWX3 motor! It looks/sounds great!
I have the trance x E, and I would go with the 625 wh over the 750 unless it doesn't add to weight .. I have rode all day and not used all the 625 . I usually only ride 3 or 4 hours a day and usually have 60% or more battery left, if it was up to me I rather it be lighter and have a 400 wh battery , and then if you go on a really long ride just add the battery extension .
@@rickywoods3101 thanks for the input. I weigh 220, so my shop thought I’d be better off with the 750 in our terrain for big adventure rides.
@@RationalHuman-1 your welcome, i'm 230 lbs and ride for extra cardio for mma but I'm sure your going to love it either way .
Glad you enjoyed it! The bike is insane. You're going to love it. I have the Reign E on order. Can't wait to try that one too.
Your reviews do the best job of expressing what is going on while you are riding, add just enough of why that is happening to make sense of those tech features, and do it all in a very thoughtful manner. You deserve many more compliments than that, but that's the best I could think of except to say they are the reviews I respect the most.
I am a 72 year old rider looking for his second ebike to ride the mountains in central PA. My first/current is a Schwinn Axum 29" hardtail with a Bafang BBSHD 160 nm drive, Rockshox 120mm 35 Gold RL fork, and a Box Three 9 speed drive group built by myself. The bike is completely silent except for tire noise and I really like it because it climbs anything. The reason I am looking for a new bike is because my wore out body is demanding suspension. This bike looks like a very good prospect but my question is how much will I notice the lower power of this motor. I climb 1200' in less than a mile on many of my rides. Should I be worried out less power?
Hey thanks for the kind words. I really appreciate that.
I wouldn’t think that you’d need to be concerned about less power. This bike had plenty for all of my riding. I’m not sure about your e bike conversion but this bike is only pedal assist. No throttle.
Another excellent, thorough review with lots of killer scenery - thanks, Conor!
Thanks for the kind words!
@ Connor have had more time on the bike and its such a gem. It makes me want to try every steep trail that has scared me off in the past :). The suspension as you pointed it out, is so darn good whether climbing or descending, so plush and efficient. With the E+0, I was mulling about whether I would need the extender or a bigger battery, but at about 10-12% battery use, I'm averaging about 2K ft of climbing, 6-8 mi of distance with the auto mode on. I think the bike is more capable than I am :). I did shorten the stem and raise the stack with spacers. Thanks again for your review, I keep coming back and watching it.
Great demo review. I saw one at the local giant dealer with a ton of Spealized in stock. And we have 2 older Specialized RHrs here. I am going to have to go back and take a 2nd look! Thanks!
I think Yamaha nailed it with the new motor and the bigger battery and how quiet it is...if only the Reign came in carbon as well, that would be awesome! But the Reign is an enduro bike and needs to be rigid and tough, so the aluminum was the way to go. However, both carbon and aluminum Giant bikes have lifetime warranty so they are pretty good value! Oh, and this new 85Nm motor from Yamaha with the 750 battery will equip the 2022 Haibike Enduro and Allmtn models! Great video as always!!!
Thanks for the kind words. The new motor is awesome.
That trail looked super fun and flowy. Always loved giant bikes, guess that's cause they have been just bomb proof for me.
The trail is amazing. Big fan.
@@bikersedge I was sold. I'm a fan of fast flow trails like that. I could imagine when it's dry be a lot of fun if you can get a little loose in the turns.
Yamaha makes great motors. I wish they were easier to swap into other bikes. Yeti 160e with the pwx3 would be a dream. Giants are great though and paired with a high quality Yamaha offering is tough to beat.
This video sold a Trance E+ Kudos and amazing ride and camera work!
So stoked you like the video and the bike!
@@bikersedge Absolutely! Question; Have you ridden the Merida e160 8k or 9k or the Norco Sight VLT's? If so, how you compare them to the Trace here and also, maybe rank them if you could?
@@geethewhiz Haven't ridden those, unfortunately. Wouldn't be able to say.
Love your reviews and video's, keep up the great work
Hey thanks for the kind words!
I have the Reign 2 E+ coming in this season as my personal bike and my boss has this bike (but the Advanced 0) coming in. Super pumped to try them both.
I’ve got a Reign on the way too. Can’t wait to ride it.
@@bikersedge as someone with a "normal bike" I figured if I was getting an ebike as a second bike I am going as big as possible. Mullet, big travel, big motor and battery ahah.
@@NorthernSkiAndCycle not a bad way to go. I basically thought the same.
Wow the whole place is a real dream!
First off, brilliant review style. It’s challenging to narrate your thoughts while zipping through trails at speeds that could present problems if you get distracted. I enjoyed the review, am looking at a E+0 (found a pretty good deal on one). I think the E+0, 2 bikes are fantastic value for money. Sure, a Yeti 160E , Specialized Levo etc. might be superior all around, but at about 35-45% more, it’s arguable that you really get that much more performance at that price. I think Giant is making great strides here with these new line of bikes. Subbing your channel!
Hey thanks! Glad you liked it.
I don’t think there’s anything inherently superior about the Yeti or Specialized. The Trance will give any ebike a run for is money. It’s easily in my top 3.
@@bikersedge Thanks for that perspective. I test rode in a parking lot and no kidding, it climbs like a cat. The power is crazy, I don’t see me in the overboost levels and the auto mode on the motor is pretty impressive. Coupled with live valve on the E+0, color me impressed on Giant’s new bikes. The rear stay length is longer than I expected though. Any thoughts on doing a mullet setup on these? Thanks again, appreciate any input!
I personally wouldn’t want to make a mullet out of a dedicated 29. I think it compromises the geometry too much without the added benefit of a shorter wheelbase. The chainstays are still the same length so the bike doesn’t get shorter.
Thanks Connor, much appreciated!
@@bikersedge I got the E+0 this weekend and took it to a nearby trail today which has climbs that usually kill me on my acoustic trail bike. We finished the entire route in 40 min and the bike made me superhuman on those climbs. Your review and Steve’s (EMTB) really sold me on the bike. Downhill, it was as fast as my courage and the live valve ate everything up. Giant really has a winner here! Thanks again for doing the review (unfortunately I’m not in your neck of the woods).
Great review, becoming my fav mtb channel. Please can you test the new rocky powerplays.
Thanks for the kind words. We don’t currently carry Rocky Mountain at the shop. Who knows that might change.
excellent review, thanks. Especially like your comments on motor noise. I have kept away from ebikes because of that. btw, what trail is that? Looks awesome.
Great video and great riding skills 😊
Hey thanks!
First I want to say your videos are one of the best in TH-cam, are spot on , without spend so much time for geo and components details.true Rider review...thank you!!!
Also We waiting reign e+ review.
Thoughts:I noticed that giant delivering medium frames bikes ( reign e+ and trance e+) with 125mm dropper post and 50mm stem, this doesn't make sense, it's stupid.also the rear hub that using on entry level models (giant tracker boost or SRAM 746 or formula are all the same), is awful.
Hey thanks for there kind words!
Very nice review Connor. You and Zach are hitting it out of the park! I am curious- How does this bike compare with your Spur on the Downhill sections? Is the E- Trance as fun? Or does the weight hamper that fun downhill? I have never ridden an eBike or any bike heaver than 35 pounds.
Hey thanks! It's tough to compare them. They're not similar at all. The Trance E is fun in a different way. It's fast, smooth and motors through everything. The Spur is quick and zippy. They both have their merits.
@@bikersedge Thx! Again, great review and great shop! Happy Turkey Day!
Nice trail at 6:19! Nice bike. Amazing how quiet it is with no hub buzz or chain slap. Well done Giant. So was that the E+ 2 you were riding with the Starry Night color?
Very well done. It’s dead quiet. So nice.
I have the E+2 reign, got it last jan. 2022. Sadly after 1.5k miles of riding, motor seized. I suspect it overheated. Waiting for giant to warranty the motor. I hope giant has good customer service🙏.
LBS stated giant will try to fix the motor or if not fixable will send me a new motor. Waiting for 2 weeks now🙏
Last Thursday a shop in Sacramento had 3 or 4 of the 2022 carbon e pro2's. Pretty sure they're gone by now. Haven't been able to find much info until today. Funny they would be selling them before any kind of introduction.
Weird. The embargo date was today. Oops.
@ThejokerMachine1 what is the name of the shop so I can check it out? I live near Sacramento. Thanks!
Bought the aluminium E+1 and love it. 800wh battery life
Solid!
Another awesome review, thank you Connor! Seems like a great price. How do you like it compared to the Rise?
Hey thanks for the kind words. I think they’re pretty different. This one is full power and heavy. Kinda nice for those really steep climbs and fast descents. The rise is nice because it feels way closer to a regular bike.
When are you guys going to review the 2022 Giant Reign E+2? I have one on order but not sure if I should go with that or the Trance X Advanced? I mostly ride steep, fast, and chunky SoCal terrain.
Not sure if the Reign review is going to happen anymore. Tough times with trying to get one.
nice review. kind of weird if they managed to get the DPS to not feel like shit. I haven't been on a non XC bike where DPS felt good. props to giant for that. Also, the ONLY thing I dislike about my Rise is the sound. This bike not rattling "sounds" so incredible.
Hey thanks! I like the DPS on a lot of bikes. Usually it’s reserved for shorter travel hikes and maybe that’s why it feels a little harsh at times. Not so much the shock but the limitations of the bike and it’s travel. I personally think a shock makes only a small difference in how a bikes suspension feels.
You Guys should look into a podcast . Great stuff per usual
Great suggestion. Thanks!
Awesome review, love how quiet it is. Looked at one in shop today, 25kg Carbon makes it heavier than the new 2022 Alloy Reign? Not sure how that happened!
Not sure. Once you’re over 45ish pounds they all kind of start to feel the same - heavy.
Great review, can I ask how tall are you and how much is your seddle height using an XL size frame? Thanks!
Hey thanks! I’m 6’2” and I run my saddle at 80cm to the bb with 175mm cranks.
J'ai essayé un Giant reign e +0 je n'ai pas vraiment aimé malgré qu'il soit très bien équipé.
Je suis passé au Trance e+2, qui est pourtant moins bien équipé, quel bonheur, ce vélo correspond mieux à mon usage.
En plus j'ai la batterie 800wh dessus.
Mon marchand de vélo me dit que la nouvelle suspension électronique disponible sur les versions supérieures e+1 et e+0 n'apporte pas grand chose, compliquée à régler et pas forcément intéressante à l'usage.
Par contre je poserais les plaquettes ventilées à ailettes de shimano et peut-être mettre des meilleurs disques XT.
En tout cas belle revue réaliste. Je suis passé d'un turbo levo Gen1 à celui-ci et j'adore.
C'est vraiment un excellent vélo, je retrouve la souplesse et le silence du Specialized en mieux.
Merci.
thanks for posting
You bet!
Looks like a nice bike. I need to find a nice one since I’m an AK amputee
I have read a few other reviews that state the bike feels pretty planted to the ground likely due to the length of the chain stays and length overall. I have also read it has a very forward riding position keeping your weight forward. Can you comment on the playfulness of the bike?
I've watched both of your reviews of the Giant and the Yeti 160e. If both the Giant and the Yeti 160e are in the garage which gets more of your ride time attention? I realize there is a pretty good price difference, but it there wasn't which do you grab?? Thx
Man you’re going to make me choose? I think the Trance X is my favorite e bike of the year. You can beat the suspension and motor. But I wish it was a little more burly. So if I could have a Trance X with the travel and geo of the 160 I’d be writing a check right now.
Hi Connor, ordered this bike, XT Build in alloy frame, size X-LARGE. Thinking of putting a Wolftooth Geoshift headset in to slacken it 1 degree. What do you think?
Could be worth a shot. If you go for it, let us know how it goes.
there was chatter and bumps on that trail?
An e bike like this would be great for multiple laps on that trail! The climb usually limits me to a single run. Curious did you climb up on BST from the south? Didn’t recognize the climb trail. But it sounds like it’s even more draining than the climbs I usually take up there.
I climbed Wild Rose. It's steep and direct.
@@bikersedge awesome thanks for the reply, I do use that climb sometimes and it is definitely steep!
Brilliant review and video….new to your channel, and I’ll be back, thanks 👍
Hey thanks! Glad you liked it.
Would you take this bike over the Canyon Spectral ON CF9? I’m trying to decide that very thing as I found a lightly used Canyon with XTR brakes, Fox factory suspension but has the Shimano EP8 motor. These new Giant looks dialed even though the components may not be as good.
I haven’t ridden the Canyon. Wouldn’t be able to say. The EP8 is a great motor too. Not sure about the bike though.
How do you think this bike compares to the updated Turbo Levo? If it was your money which one would you buy?
Haven’t ridden the specialized. We don’t carry them at the shop so I’m contractually obligated to make fun of them relentlessly.
I'm looking at the 2022 Giant site and see a Trance X Advanced E+ in an E+0 and an E+2. Does that mean there is no E+1? Is this the 2, and what's the weight on it?
This is the 2. In the US there isn’t a 1.
I didn’t weigh it. I rarely weigh bikes unless it seems absolutely necessary for the review.
This trail looks fun. Up near Kaysville?
Yeah. Lost lad. So good.
I just got an aluminum version….it’s a tank but man it rides well. Forget hopping over logs😂
I can see that.
I have trance x 3 e+ 2021, do you think I should update to a 2022 on aluminum? The devaluation of used ebike is only 10% here in Mexico I should take advantage of it, what do think? I was thinking on the new reign but I am more all mountain and trail rider, I do some easy Enduro with the trance x without issue
The 2022 has the new pwx3 motor with much higher ground clearance, and a new frame design, but all the geo is the same, except for a much lower standover height, and a 750 Wh battery.
The 2022 also looks much better imo. Can’t go wrong with the new bike.
how about comparing to specialized levo? levo is 10mm longer travel on susoension. Can Trance passs all the technical terran?
We don’t carry specialized at the shop. Won’t be able to make it happen.
Did your motor housing made no noice at all?? I just bought the exact same bike that you are testing in this video and mine makes more noice then I would like. I am pretty sure it is coming from the motor.
You might want to get it looked at. This was the quietest e bike motor I've ridden. It's always going to make noise, but it's significantly quieter than the Shimano and Bosch motors I've ridden.
@@bikersedge I might not have explained it correctly. when in use, so pedaling or climbing its fine. Its just when I am coasting/descending when it rattles a little. I checked al bolts and the chain clutch is engaged. It sounds a little like how the other motors rattle but less, stil a lot more then the bike in your video...
@@bikersedge When I lift the back wheel up of the ground and let it fall down it makes this "clack" noice. My downhill bike falls back down and is dead quiet. Really hoped that this e bike would be quiet like that as well.. Did the bike you tested made a similar noice?
I didn’t really notice a rattle at all on this one. My full time e bike has a Shimano EP8 motor which rattles a ton. Maybe I’m just a little desensitized to rattles on e bikes.
that rattle u hear is when u hit a square edge bump. i do have that rattle on mine, but less now since i added a fox 38. so my guess that rattle is even more accentuated by a harsh fox 36. Rattle is always there, even with my older reign e, but more/louder if the front fork is not as plush.
Always real world tests, how Connor can talk while bombing down a hill is beyond me. Other reviews were mentioning the Automatic mode vs manually going from say 3 to 5 to boost as a way of saving total battery, wonder if you can comment on that in the future. Bikers Edge walks the talk, I've purchased a new Giant from them, steller service, well trained staff.
Most of the time I do a pretty poor job of riding and talking. it's surprisingly tough.
I ran the automatic mode for a minute and I think the idea is solid. I liked having control of how much assist I got with the manual modes though.
Does the bike compare to orbea rise? tnx
Not really. It’s tough to compre full power to mid size eMTBs
@@bikersedge which one do you want the most? im thinking adding a trail oriented ebike in addition to my reign e or just replace the reign e with the 2022 model. tnx
I’d have to say right now I’d probably take the Trance. I’ve been riding the Rise for the last year and it’s nice to ride something new. It would be tough to give up the Rise though. There’s not an ebike quite like it on the DH.
@@bikersedge sorry to bother again, i just have another question. how does the trance compare to a heckler mx? tnx
@@archietamayo76 they’re fairly similar. I prefer the motor on the Giant over the SC. The SC felt a bit more maneuverable and a bit more like a trail bike. The Giant felt heavier and a bit burlier.
What mode were you climbing in?
I went back and forth a bunch but usually ended up in 3
@@bikersedge Which is called?
@@steelgtr 3? Giant just has 5 levels.
@@bikersedge The name of level 3?
@@steelgtr didn’t have a name. Its just 3.
Can you please do a review on the giant reign E
As soon as I can get my hands on one I will.
Was this the cheaper 2 model that was reviewed?
Yes
That climb up to lost lad SUCKS on a normal bike hahah
Frankly it still sucks on an e bike. Just a little less. Ha.
I'm waiting on a Trek Rail 9 as I didn't like the 2021 Trance E+, but man this year's Trance is looking like a great machine.
What's you opinion? Trek Rail or Giant Trance?
Haven’t ridden the Trek. I will say the Trance is my favorite eMTB from the last year.
How does it compare to the Levo?
Can't say. We don't carry Specialized so I haven't ridden the Levo.
nice video but I would have liked to have seen more off the bike instead off your face :D
also too bad about the shortage of bikes!
if the bike was in stock I would have bought it right away after seeing this video ;)
also I wonder if maybe it would be possible to make it a MULLET to make the bike more agressive riding downhill?
A mullet doesn’t necessarily make the bike more aggressive downhill. Just makes the back where smaller is all. I would avoid it on this bike. Your BB is going to get pretty low and you won’t really gain too much benefit with the smaller back wheel. The chainstays won’t get shorter.
Also what’s wrong with my face?
@@bikersedge I say show that face! Great review!! I may get one of these thanx 2u!
It’s like the lost lad trail was designed for E-bikes haha
100% better on an ebike.
Does anyone else wish the yamahas made a hair more power. Im considering a front hub on my 23 stance E .
As far as peak torque goes the drive on this bike is with the best at 85Nm. The Sport motor is still a respectable 75Nm.
How about an overview of the models, prices, gear, a look over it? Too much GoPro footage.
I try to keep these short and to the point. I like to focus more on how they feel on the trail. Builds, prices and components are a quick google search away.
A big year for giant I think
They’ve been putting out some amazing stuff for the past few years. Like top notch. I wish they could get the credit they deserve.
@@bikersedge they will do now, they’ve some great bikes out
How much does it weigh?
50+ I have a habit of not weighing bikes. But this one was heavy.
@@bikersedge Okay, thanks for the reply 👍
I dunno, before 170/180 was strictly downhill. Now almost every bike is doing it, and traveling at faster speeds. need more suspension folks on run of the mill emtbs
Not sure I agree. Not every bike needs to be an ultra capable DH bike. It's nice to have some variety. Giant makes the Reign E if you want/need more travel.
19 miles for a adventure ride?!😅 that's a short ride for me, heck it's my long ride to one of the trail heads for a my all day ride. Long adventure rides in my book are 80-100 miles, so bring a extra battery if you ride with me.
Yeah.... I don't think I want to ride with you if you're going 80 miles. I choose fun.
@@bikersedge 😂🤣 I'm a big endurance rider so I'm all about the long days and big miles. This type of riding pays off big if your also into bike packing.
@@buckroger6456 I did a 50-mile endurance race and subsequently joined the "Death to Fitness" club shortly after.
@@bikersedge those races aren't easy. I just love being out on the bike so I've really built up my riding endurance over the years. Now I'm good for 6-8 hour epic rides, loaded up with food and water.
They are great bikes but hopefully the controller doesn't go out. My Trance X has been down for 2 months waiting for a replacement 🤨 my bike shop said there are 6 more trance X waiting for the replacement.
what year is yours ? put 750 miles on mine so far without an issue , I have the 2021 trance x e though .
Guess where it’s not sold. America
I live in Utah and have one so….
This model is available in the US. Can’t speak for Canada and Mexico but I’d assume it’s also available there.
Biker’s Edge is in Utah. This bike is already in shops in America.
Just saw one in Washington, that paint on the e2 is gorgeous. I was just about to pull the trigger on a fezzari, this review changed my mind!!
I really hope they’ve pulled their head out their asses at Giant and sorted what was one of the most badly designed e-bikes. The suspension kinematics is still really good though.
Their motor was strong and had a good feel to it, but the bike was poorly designed and it had such a lack of integration and a rats nets of cables inside the downtube. And holy hell were they heavy! Every bike that was sold, you just knew that it would be back in less than a month, and generally, they were. The wiring wasn’t waterproof enough, the controller wasn’t waterproof enough and to “fix” the controller, Giant just put a waterproof silicone inside, but it really didn’t do a good enough job. To combat this, owners used to put a plastic bag over it to help reduce the chances of water getting in… on a £5k bike! Crazy. I’ve had lots of Giant bikes over the years, and they were a great brand, but they really didn’t care or want to know when we asked what are they going to do to fix the issues, because many shops have tried. Hopefully, these new 2022 bikes will go some way to rectifying this. I hope so. Either way, I’m glad I no longer work for a Giant dealer anymore.
Forgot to mention that your trails look incredible 👍
nice motorcycle.
Where? I don’t see one.
People still say this?
Some day you will be 65 years old with sore knees and be glad for an ebike
Terrrific review.
Hey thanks for the kind words.