Thanks for the insights! Really looking forward to getting mine in the Advance Trim, only thing that I would've liked would've been ventilated seats. I ordered my new Civic back in October, and it was already obvious back then that it will take a while for it to be delivered (was told it would be March-June, but no word about it being delivered yet). I'm not in a rush though, I'm daily driving the new Civic's great grandfather for now, a 1985 Honda Civic Wagon, which will get some well deserved rest once the new Civic is here (will be keeping both of them). Not worried about road noise too much, as the old 85 Civic has the same noise level inside whether the window is up or down while driving, so it will be way better anyhow. I doubt the new Civic will last as long as the one I drive now, but we'll see.
Really good review, you picked up ok a lot that of areas that others did not. The only issues not covered in this but maybe you will in your long term review when that happens, is the back of the rear seats aren’t solid. Fabric covers some big gaps and this causes problems with loading boxes and the corners snagging on the gaps. Also the clever rear parcel cover doesn’t dampen road noise like a solid parcel shelf does.
The amount of times these so called motoring journalists get it wrong. I suggest they look up Kotaro Yamamoto explanation, then they maybe able to get it right.
Actually, it has a transmission, otherwise there’d be no way to ‘transmit’ the power of either the electric motor or the ICE to the wheels. BUT, it doesn’t have a gearbox. Call me a pedant but those are the facts.
@@Crosshead1 yes you are right. It doesn't have a gearbox, but that's what many reviewers are saying, that it has a CVT which is a gearbox. The best review I saw. th-cam.com/video/mJwRdOgKLZc/w-d-xo.html
But your local independent garage will hate the complexity compared to a normal petrol or diesel car. Buy one, run it for a couple of years and move it on.
@@quietenglishman4179what complexity do you mean? The drive train is really not that complicated, there is not even a gearbox. What is likely to break? EM and generators are really not likely to break, the petrol engine should also be pretty damn reliable, running in the sweetspot most time. The friction brakes will get less wear because of regen braking too. I assume that the battery will have to replaced at some time for long term users, but it seems to be well set to be very reliable for a long time apart from that. I plan on keeping mine for 15y +
Talking to the owners of two local independent garages I use (who can afford main dealer prices once their cars get a few years old?) they're having a torrid time with the new influx of hybrid vehicles which are very different to conventional diesel and petrol cars. Perhaps they'll get used to them in time, I don't know. I keep my cars for years as well, which was the plan when I bought an eight year old Civic diesel last year. All the best keeping yours on the road at reasonable cost.@@repit5014
A really good review, if i could ask Honda to add anything to the Civic in the next upgrade, it would be to add two usb points, one to the front interior mirror and the other at the back in the roof where it meets the rear screen, reason............... Dash-Cam ! Just how easy would it be to fit the cameras then, the Skoda Octavia has it, and i am sure Honda can do it very easily indeed.
Another good review. 2:19 Why the heck, on this Japanese car, is the indicator stalk on the left? I don't get it. Not so much of an issue for a car with an auto transmission, but it still irks me. Doesn't Hyundai switch them to the right hand side for the UK, and other RHD markets (e.g. Australia)?
Great review. Only problem is that I ordered an Advanced model last year in November and I am now being told I might see it in June.....................................
I have seen brand new ones advertised for sale here in England so I don't understand why you did not buy one of them have a look yourself on say Auto trader car wow etc.
Couldn't blame you. I ordered in November supposedly for delivery in March. Was then told by the dealer I wasn't getting it and they couldn't give me a delivery date. Therefore I went to directly to Honda and they gave me the September date. I'll maybe wait until then but if it doesn't come then I'll be looking elsewhere.
I never understand why people say "it doesn't need plugging in" as if having a tiny 1KWh battery is an advantage over the 30KWh battery you get in a Plug in hybrid which you can use for commuting every day and never use any petrol.
But 40% of people in the UK do not have home access to charging so that is a huge advantage with a car that self charges and in urban environments it runs mostly on the electric motor.
@@domi9577 I never said they don't just that the battery they carry is heavier and if you have nowhere of your own to charge them they are not as practical.
It is a weight advantage and weight is the enemy of efficiency, handling, wear and tear and cost. PHEV's save gas the same way plugging in an electric fire saves gas for for central heating.
Your which one should you buy segment was pointless, you basically said if you want the cheapest one get the cheapest one, if you want the most expensive one get the most expensive one. The type R is very different car to what you were reviewing too, as it is a 2.0L turbo that comes in manual only.
It won't sell well, this country is obsessed with German cars despite them being more expensive, less reliable and less tech for the money. I ordered mine in November, can't wait. I got 66 mpg with normal driving across a city
Completely agree with you. The Honda Civic is far better than unreliable and over rated German alternatives. If the British public think that they are getting mythical "German build quality" buying a MB BMW or VW group alternative then they are living in cloud cuckoo land. Enjoy your new Honda!
Oh god, there is no eCVT transmission, that is used in Toyota Hybrid. In fact, there is complete opposite in Civic and that is fix gear instead of transmission.
@@TheGU1T4RFR3AK Oh boy :D No, it isn't. eCVT is electronically controlled Continuous Variable Transmission, so infinite number of gears, opposite of one gear. It's a planetary transmission used in Toyota hybrid system. You will newer see Toyota transmission in Honda :D
@@TheGU1T4RFR3AK In fact, I know :) But you have no idea how e:HEV works :) Sooo lets hear it directly from Honda : th-cam.com/video/6glpZTRT6qE/w-d-xo.html
@@Hjorten93 Nope it absolutely doesn't. The review on the website is not LONG term, just a normal review. The long term review is for the tenth generation only. The presenter mentioned long term @ 2:52.
Holy crap! I drive an F20 118d now and I'm kind of glancing at the Civic and my other option is also a 330e!!! 330e is about 60k and the Civic is just under 50k here in Ireland so it's not a massive difference. I think the Civic defo beats the F40 in the looks department (only a mother would love the F40 lol). I rented an F40 118i this year on a trip and despite it being a FWD (vs the F20), a rough 1.5 three cylinder, and ugly as hell, I was quite impressed about how it drove. I wonder how Civic handles against the F40 on a twisty road... I'm really tempted by the Civic!!!
@@maris3562 i got the 330e touring mSport packet. Great car but the battery is not that great. If u dont mind the noise go for the civic. Here in Belgium would cost me 33k the advanced version 1 year ago and was 70% tax deductible. The 330e was second hand barely used and 100% tax deductible.
@@ParkersTV I stand corrected, didn't check the prices in the UK. In my country there's a 12.000 euros difference between the base model, which I think it's the one most people buy.
@@ParkersTV Exactly! I'm looking at this as an Octavia RS (diesel) competitor. Similar performance and price (in Ireland) and a much nicer drivetrain than the Octavia I'd say.
Just an OOT comment. In UK the driving seat is on the right (in EU it is on the left). Most of the people are right-handed and using the infotainment in the left with the right hand is very uncomfortable.. and to my eyes (I am from Italy), awkward.
I am shocked that this is the only option available for the new Civic!! They took away the last generation which was very good and affordable, which we could buy until a month ago, and replaced it with an automatic only hybrid, which costs nearly double the price here!! The 1.0L and 1.5L manual tenth generation were actually perfect for most people looking for a family car, but this isn't! The "old" Civic started at less than €25,000 here, but this one starts at €47,000!! - it's hardly an affordable family car anymore, when who wants to drive a stupid heavy hybrid automatic?! 😯😂🩲🦨🚗 . While of course the Type R is manual petrol and non hybrid, but it'll probably be €80,000 here if they even sell it, when the last one cost €60,000+, when the likes of Carwow already bemoaned the fact that it's £12,000 dearer than the old model... IF this new car was available with a non hybrid engine and a manual gearbox for less than €30,000, it might have a place in the market, but as it is no chance! And while I wouldn't touch an EV with a bargepole, the Tesla model 3 has come down in price twice recently, starting at around €60,000 a few months ago, but it now starts at €43,000, so if this one drives like an EV, why not buy a silly EV instead?! 😯 Wow, Honda have really screwed up with this! 😂🩲 .
Welcome to the retarded nanny state of Ireland? It makes me tear up when I see the car prices in the UK vs this kip over here... Welfare mums need their social housing and their handouts...
I got mine in october 2022. Best Civic I ve ever had and the fuel economy is awesome, around 4,7 liters/100 km. And that includes German Autobahns!
I've got the Sport trim and am very happy. Really good on fuel, yet great fun when you put your foot down.
What’s the road noise like at motorway speed? thinking of getting one, but this aspect is putting me off!
@@Colster1001 Not that bad to be fair, tolerable.
@@ant647448336 cheers for the quick reply!
What a review! Well done! Very informative and like the way you do it. Many greetings from The Netherlands.
Thank you! 🇳🇱
8:52 not mild hybrid, it’s a full hybrid
@@longmist6508 This is full Hybrid, mild is completely different and almost pointless.
Why are you just repeating what the other person already said? @@forsdykemontague1017
Well done Honda! 👏👏
Thanks for the insights! Really looking forward to getting mine in the Advance Trim, only thing that I would've liked would've been ventilated seats. I ordered my new Civic back in October, and it was already obvious back then that it will take a while for it to be delivered (was told it would be March-June, but no word about it being delivered yet). I'm not in a rush though, I'm daily driving the new Civic's great grandfather for now, a 1985 Honda Civic Wagon, which will get some well deserved rest once the new Civic is here (will be keeping both of them). Not worried about road noise too much, as the old 85 Civic has the same noise level inside whether the window is up or down while driving, so it will be way better anyhow. I doubt the new Civic will last as long as the one I drive now, but we'll see.
Really good review, you picked up ok a lot that of areas that others did not. The only issues not covered in this but maybe you will in your long term review when that happens, is the back of the rear seats aren’t solid. Fabric covers some big gaps and this causes problems with loading boxes and the corners snagging on the gaps. Also the clever rear parcel cover doesn’t dampen road noise like a solid parcel shelf does.
It doesn't have an automatic transmission. It doesn't have a transmission at all!!
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and it doesn't have a gear selector !
The amount of times these so called motoring journalists get it wrong. I suggest they look up Kotaro Yamamoto explanation, then they maybe able to get it right.
Actually, it has a transmission, otherwise there’d be no way to ‘transmit’ the power of either the electric motor or the ICE to the wheels. BUT, it doesn’t have a gearbox. Call me a pedant but those are the facts.
@@Crosshead1 yes you are right. It doesn't have a gearbox, but that's what many reviewers are saying, that it has a CVT which is a gearbox.
The best review I saw. th-cam.com/video/mJwRdOgKLZc/w-d-xo.html
Can't wait for the secondhand cars to get into my price range.
But your local independent garage will hate the complexity compared to a normal petrol or diesel car. Buy one, run it for a couple of years and move it on.
@@quietenglishman4179what complexity do you mean?
The drive train is really not that complicated, there is not even a gearbox. What is likely to break?
EM and generators are really not likely to break, the petrol engine should also be pretty damn reliable, running in the sweetspot most time. The friction brakes will get less wear because of regen braking too.
I assume that the battery will have to replaced at some time for long term users, but it seems to be well set to be very reliable for a long time apart from that. I plan on keeping mine for 15y +
Talking to the owners of two local independent garages I use (who can afford main dealer prices once their cars get a few years old?) they're having a torrid time with the new influx of hybrid vehicles which are very different to conventional diesel and petrol cars. Perhaps they'll get used to them in time, I don't know. I keep my cars for years as well, which was the plan when I bought an eight year old Civic diesel last year. All the best keeping yours on the road at reasonable cost.@@repit5014
A really good review, if i could ask Honda to add anything to the Civic in the next upgrade, it would be to add two usb points, one to the front interior mirror and the other at the back in the roof where it meets the rear screen, reason............... Dash-Cam ! Just how easy would it be to fit the cameras then, the Skoda Octavia has it, and i am sure Honda can do it very easily indeed.
Great review Hope well explained and agree the best car in the class as the Jazz is in the small car category.
Almost well explained.
There is not gears. It’s only we can said one. From start till the top speed.
We bought Civic Advance and yes because of that I know that.
Good review, and pleasantly presented.
Another good review. 2:19 Why the heck, on this Japanese car, is the indicator stalk on the left? I don't get it. Not so much of an issue for a car with an auto transmission, but it still irks me. Doesn't Hyundai switch them to the right hand side for the UK, and other RHD markets (e.g. Australia)?
I agree! I thought I was the only one getting annoyed about that 🙂
Great review. Only problem is that I ordered an Advanced model last year in November and I am now being told I might see it in June.....................................
I have seen brand new ones advertised for sale here in England so I don't understand why you did not buy one of them have a look yourself on say Auto trader car wow etc.
Ahh that’s a shame! Hopefully it’ll be worth the wait.
You won't see it until September at the earliest.
@@donaldarthur-jt4ih I gave up and went and bought a BMW 420i instead.
Couldn't blame you. I ordered in November supposedly for delivery in March. Was then told by the dealer I wasn't getting it and they couldn't give me a delivery date. Therefore I went to directly to Honda and they gave me the September date. I'll maybe wait until then but if it doesn't come then I'll be looking elsewhere.
Nope both is wirelles.
You can change both on wireless in hidden menu:)
I never understand why people say "it doesn't need plugging in" as if having a tiny 1KWh battery is an advantage over the 30KWh battery you get in a Plug in hybrid which you can use for commuting every day and never use any petrol.
But 40% of people in the UK do not have home access to charging so that is a huge advantage with a car that self charges and in urban environments it runs mostly on the electric motor.
@@pillred5974 you talk as if PHEVs don't self charge. They do. But they also have the option of charging at charging stations.
@@domi9577 I never said they don't just that the battery they carry is heavier and if you have nowhere of your own to charge them they are not as practical.
It is a weight advantage and weight is the enemy of efficiency, handling, wear and tear and cost. PHEV's save gas the same way plugging in an electric fire saves gas for for central heating.
@@jamescaley9942 So a fully EV car that weighs nearly twice as much as an equivalent ICE of the same model is somehow better?
I would like to ask if there is a problem with the fact that it is very low and when it is loaded it rests on the road (on something uphill) thanks
Your which one should you buy segment was pointless, you basically said if you want the cheapest one get the cheapest one, if you want the most expensive one get the most expensive one. The type R is very different car to what you were reviewing too, as it is a 2.0L turbo that comes in manual only.
Trouble is the long delivery date
It won't sell well, this country is obsessed with German cars despite them being more expensive, less reliable and less tech for the money. I ordered mine in November, can't wait. I got 66 mpg with normal driving across a city
Completely agree with you. The Honda Civic is far better than unreliable and over rated German alternatives. If the British public think that they are getting mythical "German build quality" buying a MB BMW or VW group alternative then they are living in cloud cuckoo land. Enjoy your new Honda!
@@bondjamesbond9041 Agreed.
The same thing in Romania. Japanese cars do not enjoy much appreciation. That's it. I can't wait for my Civic to arrive in October. I hope :)
No, automatic brake hold can be set permanetly in the menus. once again, read the f-ing manual.
Thanks for this comment. Don’t have this car yet and from watching multiple reviews, this has been incorrectly mentioned multiple times.
Oh god, there is no eCVT transmission, that is used in Toyota Hybrid. In fact, there is complete opposite in Civic and that is fix gear instead of transmission.
That’s what eCVT is, you donut.
@@TheGU1T4RFR3AK Oh boy :D No, it isn't. eCVT is electronically controlled Continuous Variable Transmission, so infinite number of gears, opposite of one gear. It's a planetary transmission used in Toyota hybrid system. You will newer see Toyota transmission in Honda :D
@@StanTrnik no. You dont know what you’re talking about. Go read up on honda’s i-mmd technology.
@@TheGU1T4RFR3AK In fact, I know :) But you have no idea how e:HEV works :) Sooo lets hear it directly from Honda : th-cam.com/video/6glpZTRT6qE/w-d-xo.html
Why do most car testers wave their hands around and keep looking at the camera ?
Not sure why you stated long term review on your website, when it doesn't exist yet.
It absolutely exists
@@Hjorten93 Nope it absolutely doesn't. The review on the website is not LONG term, just a normal review. The long term review is for the tenth generation only. The presenter mentioned long term @ 2:52.
@@greymark420 oh, my bad i thought you meant the car doesnt exist haha
@@Hjorten93 👍
Here it is: www.parkers.co.uk/honda/civic/review/long-term/
What do you think about the cabine noise? I found it a reason not to buy the car and go for a 330e in almost 70%over the price.
It could be better, but it’s not a deal breaker.
Holy crap! I drive an F20 118d now and I'm kind of glancing at the Civic and my other option is also a 330e!!! 330e is about 60k and the Civic is just under 50k here in Ireland so it's not a massive difference. I think the Civic defo beats the F40 in the looks department (only a mother would love the F40 lol). I rented an F40 118i this year on a trip and despite it being a FWD (vs the F20), a rough 1.5 three cylinder, and ugly as hell, I was quite impressed about how it drove. I wonder how Civic handles against the F40 on a twisty road... I'm really tempted by the Civic!!!
@@maris3562 i got the 330e touring mSport packet. Great car but the battery is not that great. If u dont mind the noise go for the civic. Here in Belgium would cost me 33k the advanced version 1 year ago and was 70% tax deductible. The 330e was second hand barely used and 100% tax deductible.
I mean, can you really call the Focus or Leon rivals when the price difference is so huge?
Spec for spec it’s about the same.
And quality difference is even bigger, lol comparing Seat and Ford with Honda.
@@ParkersTV I stand corrected, didn't check the prices in the UK. In my country there's a 12.000 euros difference between the base model, which I think it's the one most people buy.
@@ParkersTV Exactly! I'm looking at this as an Octavia RS (diesel) competitor. Similar performance and price (in Ireland) and a much nicer drivetrain than the Octavia I'd say.
Why did you not mention the VW A GOLF then.
Which Golf engine does this compete with? Definitely not anything that's 150 horses or less, so the GTD if they still make that...
Just an OOT comment. In UK the driving seat is on the right (in EU it is on the left). Most of the people are right-handed and using the infotainment in the left with the right hand is very uncomfortable.. and to my eyes (I am from Italy), awkward.
Ireland ,Malta and Cyprus are in the EU and drive on the same side of the road as the UK as of course does the place the car was made!
The same hybrid system is used in the Accord which gives 0-60 in 6.5 seconds, seems a shame that performance isn't available in the Civic.
The hybrid system is the same, but the thermal engine and the electric one?
Holy sheeit! 29 thousand pounds!? That would be so amazing!!! Here in the tax hungry, half-socialist welfare state of Ireland, it's like 46000+ euro 😢
No Magic seats which flip up like in a cinema or lie completely flat.
No that is where the battery is housed to power the wheels. Also aids its stability.
29000 quid in Uk, 40000 euro here 😢
50mpg! the petrol I.C.E Renault Clio i had used to give me 48mpg!!
Yeah but this is the size of an accord and has every extra going
Plus i get between 60mpg and 80mpg when in eco mode and use the regenerative breaking
@@wilsonroofer So drive like a saint, deadening response eco mode with added regen on top Vs a normal driven Clio.
Ditto my clio 1.6 hybrid clio 24 plate on 1100 miles now on 65.5 mpg...mild hybrid 1.2kwh battery superb motor
It does not have a CVT. It does not have a gearbox. Can't these reporters get even basic information right?
PS. I have on and it is a fantastic car.
Clarkson needed
Honda just make boring cars
I am shocked that this is the only option available for the new Civic!!
They took away the last generation which was very good and affordable, which we could buy until a month ago, and replaced it with an automatic only hybrid, which costs nearly double the price here!!
The 1.0L and 1.5L manual tenth generation were actually perfect for most people looking for a family car, but this isn't!
The "old" Civic started at less than €25,000 here, but this one starts at €47,000!! - it's hardly an affordable family car anymore, when who wants to drive a stupid heavy hybrid automatic?! 😯😂🩲🦨🚗 .
While of course the Type R is manual petrol and non hybrid, but it'll probably be €80,000 here if they even sell it, when the last one cost €60,000+, when the likes of Carwow already bemoaned the fact that it's £12,000 dearer than the old model...
IF this new car was available with a non hybrid engine and a manual gearbox for less than €30,000, it might have a place in the market, but as it is no chance!
And while I wouldn't touch an EV with a bargepole, the Tesla model 3 has come down in price twice recently, starting at around €60,000 a few months ago, but it now starts at €43,000, so if this one drives like an EV, why not buy a silly EV instead?! 😯
Wow, Honda have really screwed up with this! 😂🩲 .
Welcome to the retarded nanny state of Ireland? It makes me tear up when I see the car prices in the UK vs this kip over here... Welfare mums need their social housing and their handouts...