I'm not sure that you are entirely correct about ping pong trademark here. There are officially ping pong championships since 2011 and it's a different game from table tennis with different rules regarding rackets which changes game process quite significantly
Finding out it's illegal to call this game ping-pong has me so distraught that I had to reach for a kleenex to wipe my tears and an asprin for my headache.
In Chinese, Ping Pong is written as 乒乓 and pronounced ping-pong. Even the Olympics website lists table tennis in Chinese as 乒乓. Yes, onomatopoeia in sound and look. 🙂
I thought maybe it was an anti-chinese racist exoticism. Like when people say "Ching-Chong" when mocking Chinese speakers. Apologies for repeating that.
@michaellee4276 yeah i also thought of that, but immediately dismissed it because, unlike Mandarin, table tennis always sounds like some form of "ping-pong" even if the table tennis community could say otherwise.
Dead trademarks should be recinded, but ping-pong was used in casual conversation before, and would not be able to be trademarked now. These 2 together should make an excellent case for revoking of trademark.
trademarks do not prevent you from using the term casually in everyday conversation. Trademarks prevent others from using that name when selling another product. I can make and sell my own table tennis set but I can't call it ping pong without the permission of the owner of that trademark.
So it's kinda like frisbee, where the word existed before the company that trademarked it came along and did so, but for some reason we're still not allowed to use it...
@@miniepicness not if someone else used it to refer to the type of good you want to trademark it for though. I can trademark the word "apple" for use in heavy machinery manufacturing (probably), but not for use in electronics, for example.
This video reminds me when I lived next to a disc golf course. People would get VERY upset if you called their areal discus a "Frisbee", or called any part of their course or activity "Frisbee golf".
video idea (if you haven’t already): i heard somewhere that the word “bear” comes from a germanic root meaning “brown”, because they would euphemistically call this animal “the brown one” rather than use its actual name and risk drawing its attention. i’d love to see a video about this, and if there are any other words with similar etymologies.
@@JohnDlugoszthat's what the ball is called. your translation equates to the "ping pong ball" that last character is just customary to attach to sports that are ball based. Basketball is 篮球 that last symbol is identical, it just means ball.
The names should be more obvious so Table Tennis makes more sense. That's why "murcan fOoTbAlL" is extremely wrong, it's ARMORED RUGBY. Othersports that could have a more fiting name: Teqball -> Table Football Lacrosse - > Handhockey Cricket -> Flat Baseball
this, finally someone brings attention to the fact that American football is just armored rugby, and not any variation of association football. we Americans have regular rugby too, just as the Aussies have Australian rules football: but I wish there was a better name to unite the similar games of AuFootball and AmFootball and to differentiate said footballs from unarmored rugby the best I've seen come up with is gridiron
Ping Pong Ping Pong Ping Pong Ping Pong Klop!Ping PongPing Pong Klop! Ping PongPing PongPing PongPing Pong Klop! Actually, maybe it should be called PikPok, as that's even more onomatopoeic than "ping pong"!
I once found a YT video showing a British Movietone News item on a man from Portland, Oregon playing a game named as "ping-pong" against his cat in 1951. I saved it as proof that cat videos pre-date The Internet from before there were even videos. Maybe it's also proof that "ping-pong" was a generic term at that time.
In Finland, the term used for the game is "pingis". The term "pöytätennis" was also suggested for the game, but it is usually considered to be too long word. However, it is unclear whether the Finnish name of the game comes from the original "ping pong" or that the ball bounces ("pingota" in Finnish) on the table.
Table tennis is what they play in the Olympics. What I played in high school, on an old wooden table in the school cafeteria using crappy wooden paddles, was ping pong, and it gave me a lot of fun.
Saying that it would be silly to call it Ping pong in the Olympics is in and of itself rather silly because at the last Olympics they had break dancing as a "sport". I wish I were joking. One of the competitors was so terrible that she gained infamy on the internet.
J-O Waldner. Legendary, to say the least. European, World and Olympic champion, ranked World number one, actively in the absolute top tier from early 1980's the noughties and a complete wizard with a ball. 🐐
7:35 how could they have invented crocket when crocket belongs to a family of games attested since the Middle Ages, to which not only do lawn games like crocket belong, but also all of the billiards family, and we have records of an early billiard-like game with rules very similar to crocket way BEFORE this guy was even born?
The Chinese name for table tennis is 乒乓球 (pīng pāng qiú). 球 (qiú) means "ball." According to ChatGPT, the ultimate language expert, the association of "Ping Pong" with the trademarked brand is mostly a Western phenomenon, and such trademark issues are irrelevant in Chinese linguistic and cultural contexts. My wife is Chinese, and I was curious that she called it "ping pong " and she explained that qiú meant "ball".
I guess it's not illegal to call it ping pong, it's just illegal to sell things with this name. But do I want to make free advertisement for this company which has the trade mark?
Ok but there are literally world ping pong championships and no one gives organisers any trouble for using the name, so you are clearly wrong there. And the reason there are separate ping pong championships is because it has different set of rules. Players are not allowed to pick their own rubbers and blades for the racket so the game is very different with much less speed and spin. And that the reason pro table tennis would never call the game they play ping pong, it's just not the same
Came here to post about how thats not how trademark law works, and how ping pong is bing bang in chinese and written cutely, but I see other beat me to the punch on both fronts. Darn
the west is awful. how the hell do you think you got the rights to legally own an onomatopoeia? how the hell do you see more likely to patent the word "bark" but can't possibly fathom the idea of the private ownership of a word being stripped?
Suggest a topic for next Monday's video!
I know what kayfabe is (wrestling term) but where did the word itself come from, like why those specific sounds to describe this practice!
I'm not sure that you are entirely correct about ping pong trademark here. There are officially ping pong championships since 2011 and it's a different game from table tennis with different rules regarding rackets which changes game process quite significantly
Gym Leader names.
The 200+ different dialects of the Norwegian language
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Finding out it's illegal to call this game ping-pong has me so distraught that I had to reach for a kleenex to wipe my tears and an asprin for my headache.
And a bandaid
The headache was probably from an Adrenaline dump.
@@johnopalko5223 That one deserves to be trademarked about as much as the Gaelic word for "son." Some people are just out to make a selfish buck.
I googled it and took a few xeroxes to make sure you really wrote this.
I grabbed my crescent wrench and channel lock pliers to come after the people who copyrighted this
In Chinese, Ping Pong is written as 乒乓 and pronounced ping-pong. Even the Olympics website lists table tennis in Chinese as 乒乓. Yes, onomatopoeia in sound and look. 🙂
i never knew the name table tennis untill I was 10~
so shouldn’t the chinese national governing body be called “ching chong ping pong”
Shouldn't it list it as 乒乓球, not just 乒乓?
I thought maybe it was an anti-chinese racist exoticism. Like when people say "Ching-Chong" when mocking Chinese speakers. Apologies for repeating that.
@michaellee4276 yeah i also thought of that, but immediately dismissed it because, unlike Mandarin, table tennis always sounds like some form of "ping-pong" even if the table tennis community could say otherwise.
Dead trademarks should be recinded, but ping-pong was used in casual conversation before, and would not be able to be trademarked now. These 2 together should make an excellent case for revoking of trademark.
trademarks do not prevent you from using the term casually in everyday conversation. Trademarks prevent others from using that name when selling another product. I can make and sell my own table tennis set but I can't call it ping pong without the permission of the owner of that trademark.
"while definitely illegal, i don't think non-regulation ping pong is my third fear."
-homestar runner in 2019
So it's kinda like frisbee, where the word existed before the company that trademarked it came along and did so, but for some reason we're still not allowed to use it...
trademarks do not work like copyright. if a word exists you can trademark it
The Frisbee was originally a pie plate from the Frisbie Pie Company, used as a toy.
@@CAMacKenzieMighty strong words, runt. You man enough to back 'em up with more than just a pie plate?
@@miniepicness not if someone else used it to refer to the type of good you want to trademark it for though. I can trademark the word "apple" for use in heavy machinery manufacturing (probably), but not for use in electronics, for example.
This video reminds me when I lived next to a disc golf course. People would get VERY upset if you called their areal discus a "Frisbee", or called any part of their course or activity "Frisbee golf".
Nah, I’ll proceed to say Ping Pong too
Glad that Whiff Whaff got a mention.
Technically it's illegal to call Scrabble Scrabble; you must call it Scrabble™ Brand Crossword Game. Which nobody does.
Why is gossamer a weird word ? - what else would you call single threads of spider web with mist droplets on them that catch the sun in autumn ?
video idea (if you haven’t already):
i heard somewhere that the word “bear” comes from a germanic root meaning “brown”, because they would euphemistically call this animal “the brown one” rather than use its actual name and risk drawing its attention. i’d love to see a video about this, and if there are any other words with similar etymologies.
aww the replica looks so cute actuallyy!
Maybe a video about the Ainu (Aynu) peoples indigenous to Northern Japan?
In the Chinese speaking world, 乒乓 (ping pong) is the official name.
乒乓球, actually.
@@JohnDlugoszthat's what the ball is called. your translation equates to the "ping pong ball"
that last character is just customary to attach to sports that are ball based.
Basketball is 篮球
that last symbol is identical, it just means ball.
"Somehow he got away with it..." No doubt, it involved knowing the right people and greasing their palms.
Back in the 1970s there was a game called Gnip Gnop. I absolutely refuse to call it sinnet elbat.
The names should be more obvious so Table Tennis makes more sense.
That's why "murcan fOoTbAlL" is extremely wrong, it's ARMORED RUGBY.
Othersports that could have a more fiting name:
Teqball -> Table Football
Lacrosse - > Handhockey
Cricket -> Flat Baseball
this, finally someone brings attention to the fact that American football is just armored rugby, and not any variation of association football.
we Americans have regular rugby too, just as the Aussies have Australian rules football:
but I wish there was a better name to unite the similar games of AuFootball and AmFootball
and to differentiate said footballs from unarmored rugby
the best I've seen come up with is gridiron
I’d say the most famous ping-pong player is clearly Forrest, Forrest Gump. 🤣
Ping Pong Ping Pong Ping Pong Ping Pong Klop!Ping PongPing Pong Klop!
Ping PongPing PongPing PongPing Pong Klop!
Actually, maybe it should be called PikPok, as that's even more onomatopoeic than "ping pong"!
I once found a YT video showing a British Movietone News item on a man from Portland, Oregon playing a game named as "ping-pong" against his cat in 1951. I saved it as proof that cat videos pre-date The Internet from before there were even videos. Maybe it's also proof that "ping-pong" was a generic term at that time.
In Finland, the term used for the game is "pingis". The term "pöytätennis" was also suggested for the game, but it is usually considered to be too long word. However, it is unclear whether the Finnish name of the game comes from the original "ping pong" or that the ball bounces ("pingota" in Finnish) on the table.
Dr. Robotnik is from Finland?
@@doomsdayrabbit4398snooPINGAS usual i see sonic
Table tennis is what they play in the Olympics. What I played in high school, on an old wooden table in the school cafeteria using crappy wooden paddles, was ping pong, and it gave me a lot of fun.
Saying that it would be silly to call it Ping pong in the Olympics is in and of itself rather silly because at the last Olympics they had break dancing as a "sport". I wish I were joking. One of the competitors was so terrible that she gained infamy on the internet.
Patrick since I found on TH-cam several years ago, I've thought have a great sounding voice. I'm envious. Happy New Year from the USA.
It's been awhile since I've seen a Name Explain video. I enjoy this style 😊
Ma Long the goat of table tennis aka ping pong
i will still call it ping pong anyways
We got a badass over here!
J-O Waldner. Legendary, to say the least. European, World and Olympic champion, ranked World number one, actively in the absolute top tier from early 1980's the noughties and a complete wizard with a ball. 🐐
Back in school we used to play it with books on the teacher's desk (with proper ping-pong balls, that is).
It may be wrong, but not "illegal." At most, it is a civil-suit, not criminal.
funny, in chinese it is called 乒乓球 , basically "ping pong ball". That is the only name I am aware of
7:35 how could they have invented crocket when crocket belongs to a family of games attested since the Middle Ages, to which not only do lawn games like crocket belong, but also all of the billiards family, and we have records of an early billiard-like game with rules very similar to crocket way BEFORE this guy was even born?
Coming home from high school to this was a welcome surprise! Thanks Patrick!
We always just called it TT, and we were told that the bats and scoring were different.
TT ain't gonna pass here in philly
I wonder if the toy company pronounces the name the same way as Hattie Jacques of "Carry On..." film fame?
My science teachers committed a crime now, didn’t they?
Does trademark law not have a rule about prior art like patent law does‽
Gossamer is a sheer fabric. Maybe they made the net from it? 🤷🏽♀️
"Ping pong, or, as Chinese call it...ping pong."
In Chinese 乒乓求 ping pang qiu is the name of table tennis
Table tennis is ping-pong.
FIGHT ME!
The Chinese name for table tennis is 乒乓球 (pīng pāng qiú). 球 (qiú) means "ball."
According to ChatGPT, the ultimate language expert, the association of "Ping Pong" with the trademarked brand is mostly a Western phenomenon, and such trademark issues are irrelevant in Chinese linguistic and cultural contexts.
My wife is Chinese, and I was curious that she called it "ping pong " and she explained that qiú meant "ball".
Having just rewatched a Ferb compilation, he said ping pong is a lain man's term.
Whiff whaff sounds like an accusation of worthlessness, with a speech impediment. "Thew nothing but whiff whaff." Like from Isaac Arthur.
Forrest Gump, Ping Pong Champion 🏆
Just more evidence that copyrights, trade marks, and patents are out of control.
Be careful. Do you recall what Hasbro did to that one TH-camr whom they accidentally sent some MtG cards too early?
What did they do?
@beatrix1120 Hasbro sent Pinkertons to his house to "retrieve" the cards.
@@tomkerruish2982 wth is a bunch of Weezer albums gonna do?
I guess it's not illegal to call it ping pong, it's just illegal to sell things with this name.
But do I want to make free advertisement for this company which has the trade mark?
Ok but there are literally world ping pong championships and no one gives organisers any trouble for using the name, so you are clearly wrong there. And the reason there are separate ping pong championships is because it has different set of rules. Players are not allowed to pick their own rubbers and blades for the racket so the game is very different with much less speed and spin. And that the reason pro table tennis would never call the game they play ping pong, it's just not the same
Came here to post about how thats not how trademark law works, and how ping pong is bing bang in chinese and written cutely, but I see other beat me to the punch on both fronts. Darn
In Mandarin, it sounds like "ping pong". The Cantonese pronunciation is (bing bam) , and b for p is heard in Southern regional accents.
Didn't Boris Johnson refer to it as whiff whaff recently?
Surely gossamer must refer to the net?
Hamleys sell them for £55 its called ping pong
Or Table Top Sphairistiké which positively rolls off the tongue.
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So, why am I not in prison?
At 50 pounds, they should include the table!
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@@mingfanzhang4600 #amazing
The "nintendo" for all video game console
5:45 Forrest Gump lol
THANK YOU
the west is awful. how the hell do you think you got the rights to legally own an onomatopoeia? how the hell do you see more likely to patent the word "bark" but can't possibly fathom the idea of the private ownership of a word being stripped?
What about wif waf?
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