we pay a National insurance that should be funding NHS and pensions, we pay road tax that should cover roads, we pay council tax that should cover police, fire and bins etc. We pay income tax that should cover functions such as military. So we then elect MP's who claim massive amounts of expenses, eat subsidised meals and drinks where is the money going ? We give it away in foreign aid that is not traceable.
@@FattyOn2Wheels The WFA was created by a Labour PM and has not increased with inflation. It needed to be updated and not scraped. As for free money the vast majority of the pensioners paid tax and national insurance that they were told would cover their health and pension costs. now run along and when you grow up region the debate
@@Skygrey2943 That very much depends on what the policies of the government are. As a % of your tax paid more went on overseas aid than went to the EU where at least we got some back as training grants and large building projects. So run along and study where the money goes because at the moment you have les idea then the foreign secretary who thinks the EU fought in WW 2
@@time4advancement244what does privatising have to do with filling vacancies? If the staff are there, they are there, if they aren’t then they arent. The cost will come back to the government ie the taxpayer either way if wages meed to increase to attract staff. Privatizing is the stupidest idea
this is not the same as Boris who received a loan from the person who he gave a role in the BBC and getting money to wallpaper his house. Please, this is not the same thing. Kier Starmer declared this. I'm not a fan of politician taking any of this money, but this has been happening for decades.
He says it would cost thousands in protection to watch an Arsenal game without a private box. WRONG - why can’t he watch the highlights for free on TV like the rest of us. Correction, as the rest of us have to pay for a TV licence.
Gallbladder removal waiting time in the Belfast Trust is 3 years if you are on the emergency list and 5 years if you are considered not to be an emergency.
@@frankyyaggabot6222 it felt like it. Had I not made a complaint I’d still be waiting. Thankfully got the surgery on Monday and now recovering. The service provided was exceptional.
From my experience of nhs, it is very patchy. I use the nhs mental health services. Cmht are terrible. Plus, their is a lack of long term community services, such as home help, preventative care, voluntary sectors, etc.
As a lifelong Gooner I'm ashamed that they actually let him in, let alone for free....There are so many deserving people who could have benefited from that ticket.......
He's a season ticket holder this is widespread knowledge They invited him to go for free one maybe two games I was a season ticket holder at luton many years everytime I was invited ( Iv been corporate 3 times) I took it up nothing wrong with it It comes down a security issues and tbh I would rather he go corporate for nothing than have my tax money spent on his securite He as every right to go to football if he wants its certainly no business of mine or of yours
Im 74 I can honestly say that I have never had a problem with them. Maybe I've just been lucky. However if we take on a hospital service where everyone has to pay in. What about all the immigrants who get everything and dont pay in ?
@elizabethdavis9119 absolutely. I also think there are other factors, such as poor management. Poor communication between different services. I know from working from within the NHS on the front line.
Yes Starmer, must be SOOOOO difficult to exist on your meagre pay. Have you discussed it with any U.K. pensioners to see how they manage WITHOUT their fuel payment?
If the Monarchy says nothing and the citizens don't demand thier MP take action then why would he not? This is the part of government that requires citizens to participate. If you don't make him serve you then he will make you serve him. Its looking a lot like the latter.
Why are they being deceiving saying a lot of money going into the NHS when it's not. Austerity was the reason the NHS crumbled plus leaving the EU, making most of the NHS staff return to their country.
its not the football box its the amount of free stuff when pensioneers have had there winter fuel allowance but also does the 8x over subscribed to gov bonds mean that the economy was not as bad as labour were telling us
Politicians shouldn't be accepting gifts period. Accepting any gift can be construed as taking a bribe or consideration for something in return, however innocent it may be. Politicians should be setting an example, above reproach
I couldn’t agree more in regards to people with ongoing health conditions how are we going to be catered for. Also I’m due to have kidney stone surgery performed by a top surgeon on the NHS. Where else would you get that in the rest of the world.
I’ve seen high profile politicians at premier league games. Arsenal has many areas where just season ticket holders sit, that’s the same people game after game. To say he can’t sit with the plebs, the working class, is ridiculous!
He's pm for him to sit in a, normal seat would cause a potential security problems because some people just can't behave It's nothing personal and would also save our tax money paying for his security
How do these people avoid PAYE ,,,, why are they classed as self employed when us prolls are paying their "RISK FREE" wages ??? what is HMRC doing about it ??
It bothers me how insecure Kei Starmer feels. If he is concerned about his safety why does remove himself from public office as it's obvious he feels he's not fit for the role. Or is he having the illusion of grandeur as no other Prime Minister has had to have a private box given to him so he's not fit to govern.
Charge the ones that have not put into the system. I have not had any problems with the NHS. Say goodbye to Labour they are ruining our Country. The prisoners we are paying for that are not British citizens send them home. The country would save a lot of money. Kier is just looking after himself end of. Will the prime minister pay for funerals of the pensioners who will not be putting heating on or even eating this winter??? Don't care what football team Kier supports come on start supporting the pensioners.
He spoke in the house while taking £107k of freebies. The biggest sponger by far. And still this presenter still tries to make it less of an issue. Any chance of balanced reporting and questioning and in fact doing some journalism? No? Didn’t think so.
If they take away the 25%from Council tax and the Bus pass many pensioners won’t be able to pay their bills and they will need to accept the Pension is too low .
Starmer and Reeves Should Be Sacked Immediately,Going Back On Everything,Starmer already On the Make taking Backhanders from anyone Giving Access to A Lobbyist to Parliament, Get Rid Of This Ponce.
If you want to look at Europe as the better option, look no farther that the OAP, it speak for itself, if we where payed the OAP, that they get, we would not need this £300.00 winters money, would we. So don’t go there.
If more people in the UK took more responsibility for their health - eating less, less often and healthier foods, drinking less, giving up smoking and exercising more - we wouldn't have so many long waits for those who become ill through no fault of their own! That's the reason why the NHS is broken - because of too many people who think they can live like pigs and then get their self inflicted health problems sorted out at taxpayers expense. As for private health insurance - it costs a pittance each month compared to the amount some people spend on cigarettes and alcohol. Which is worse - someone who keeps healthy and has private health insurance that they are less likely to use because they have a healthier lifestyle or someone who thinks private health care is a sin because they are committed to the NHS - but smokes like a chimney and eats like a pig and ends up adding to the NHS queue because they haven't taken responsibility for their own health?
sorry but Kate garraway is being a bit annoying… all of the people discussing this topic don’t have a clue and can all afford to pay more people don’t choose poverty and illy and unemployment . Why is it every time there is a discussion about the mess the government have made the most vulnerable get blamed . People hdd as be health issues in the uk because of poverty and the rich and poor gap :. Sort out equality for all and we would see better physical and mental health . Meantime bore off Kate thought you would of stood up for the other side the vulnerable
Get rid of the NHS make it private.. it served a purpose back in the time but the world is very very different now and the system just doesn't work its too expensive .
Good luck with that. Privatised health doesn't work. Do some research into America. Most people can't afford essential medications and treatments. A lot of medical insurances do not cover people fully. They will try and get out of paying for a lot and people have to remortgage their houses. Also medications do not have a price cap and you can pay a lot of money that shouldn't cost that much.
You have no idea what a private health care system would be like! In the US, the biggest reason for people going bankrupt is because of unpaid medical bills. Privatising healthcare would introduce huge amount of fraud. In the US, there are billions wasted every year in medical fraud.
Can I pick up arsenal ticket u will not be using on 26th Oct day of March and can u get my dad an overcoat and can u give pensioners without saving £300 for winter fuel please not much to ask for u given 9 billion away well ed did and one last thing stop them boats that's it for now prime your only good if do not get my ticket will not vote for u again see u soon 26 th Oct keep well
we pay a National insurance that should be funding NHS and pensions, we pay road tax that should cover roads, we pay council tax that should cover police, fire and bins etc. We pay income tax that should cover functions such as military. So we then elect MP's who claim massive amounts of expenses, eat subsidised meals and drinks where is the money going ? We give it away in foreign aid that is not traceable.
dont forget the greedy pensioners who want free money because they didnt save enough when they worked.
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Thing is British people want low taxation and first class public services. You can't really have both.
@@FattyOn2Wheels The WFA was created by a Labour PM and has not increased with inflation. It needed to be updated and not scraped. As for free money the vast majority of the pensioners paid tax and national insurance that they were told would cover their health and pension costs. now run along and when you grow up region the debate
@@Skygrey2943 That very much depends on what the policies of the government are. As a % of your tax paid more went on overseas aid than went to the EU where at least we got some back as training grants and large building projects. So run along and study where the money goes because at the moment you have les idea then the foreign secretary who thinks the EU fought in WW 2
Keir and Victoria Sponge, would like to wish all our sponsors a Happy Christmas. Donations from Pensioners highly appreciated.
Just as expected Labour will continue to privatise the NHS…
And so they should.
Mass vacancies in the NHS and you Brits REFUSE to fill those jobs.
@@time4advancement244what does privatising have to do with filling vacancies?
If the staff are there, they are there, if they aren’t then they arent. The cost will come back to the government ie the taxpayer either way if wages meed to increase to attract staff.
Privatizing is the stupidest idea
Kate Garraway trying to take the moral high ground - priceless!
Different puppet,same puppeteer.
this is not the same as Boris who received a loan from the person who he gave a role in the BBC and getting money to wallpaper his house. Please, this is not the same thing. Kier Starmer declared this. I'm not a fan of politician taking any of this money, but this has been happening for decades.
He says it would cost thousands in protection to watch an Arsenal game without a private box. WRONG - why can’t he watch the highlights for free on TV like the rest of us. Correction, as the rest of us have to pay for a TV licence.
Gallbladder removal waiting time in the Belfast Trust is 3 years if you are on the emergency list and 5 years if you are considered not to be an emergency.
So ... they're counting on you dying first.
@@frankyyaggabot6222 it felt like it. Had I not made a complaint I’d still be waiting. Thankfully got the surgery on Monday and now recovering. The service provided was exceptional.
If you think people can afford private you're proving how far out of touch you are
It’s funny that, the future 2 Kings of the UK just sit at the back when they come to Aston Villa
Thanos was right. It’s an endless cycle of utter uselessness.
The other Arsenal supporters should ask for a refund
Far too many managers on a shocking high pay
From my experience of nhs, it is very patchy. I use the nhs mental health services. Cmht are terrible. Plus, their is a lack of long term community services, such as home help, preventative care, voluntary sectors, etc.
well said and yes preventative care is much needed
As a lifelong Gooner I'm ashamed that they actually let him in, let alone for free....There are so many deserving people who could have benefited from that ticket.......
He's a season ticket holder this is widespread knowledge
They invited him to go for free one maybe two games
I was a season ticket holder at luton many years everytime I was invited ( Iv been corporate 3 times) I took it up nothing wrong with it
It comes down a security issues and tbh I would rather he go corporate for nothing than have my tax money spent on his securite
He as every right to go to football if he wants its certainly no business of mine or of yours
Im 74 I can honestly say that I have never had a problem with them. Maybe I've just been lucky. However if we take on a hospital service where everyone has to pay in. What about all the immigrants who get everything and dont pay in ?
Starmer and his wife, King and Queen of Sleeze
They are well on their way but not near bojo or Blair levels yet
7% of gdp in 2019 to 11% today, NHS has money, throwing more money at a problem does not solve it😱
Starmer....integrity......two words in conflict.
Realistically we do not pay that much for the NHS compared to other countries. Look this up.
@@megullett1
The problems are caused by the wastefulness of the NHS
@elizabethdavis9119 absolutely. I also think there are other factors, such as poor management. Poor communication between different services. I know from working from within the NHS on the front line.
Everyone has to pay into health insurance. Tax?
Starmer is corrupt.
Yes Starmer, must be SOOOOO difficult to exist on your meagre pay. Have you discussed it with any U.K. pensioners to see how they manage WITHOUT their fuel payment?
Government sewer is the same as the last Government sewer.
Kier is not a poor man. I'm sure he could have paid even just partially at least for it in order to signal he's not like the Tories, but he didn't.
If the Monarchy says nothing and the citizens don't demand thier MP take action then why would he not? This is the part of government that requires citizens to participate. If you don't make him serve you then he will make you serve him. Its looking a lot like the latter.
Tories just as bad
Tories didn't cut winter fuel allowance for pensioners
@@HughJannus-vw4om no they just allowed the fuel companies to charge what they want so they could give the shareholders huge dividens
Oh well then, let's just give Labour a free pass.
The Tories aren't the ones in power accepting the backhanders now though are they?
Very nice
OAP'S just under threshold wont get "winter fuel payment" contact your LABOUR MP....email/Telephone/meeting..😡
If you have a private pension then you will not get anything.
@@collier8931 Try having served over 20 years in our Armed Forces. Even that means you get nowt
Why are they being deceiving saying a lot of money going into the NHS when it's not. Austerity was the reason the NHS crumbled plus leaving the EU, making most of the NHS staff return to their country.
Hey it's Ian Dale who tried to stand as a Tory candidate for Tunbridge Wells but forgot that he previously slagged off the place
Indeed.🤭
Defund then scrap or sell off, this was the plan all along.
its not the football box its the amount of free stuff when pensioneers have had there winter fuel allowance but also does the 8x over subscribed to gov bonds mean that the economy was not as bad as labour were telling us
Few things in life are free. A gift is in return for influence.
Meet the old boss, same as the old boss.
Vote Green
Vote green 😂😂😂😂Nice one! Not poorly managed situation just outright hypocrisy
Politicians shouldn't be accepting gifts period. Accepting any gift can be construed as taking a bribe or consideration for something in return, however innocent it may be. Politicians should be setting an example, above reproach
I couldn’t agree more in regards to people with ongoing health conditions how are we going to be catered for. Also I’m due to have kidney stone surgery performed by a top surgeon on the NHS. Where else would you get that in the rest of the world.
No do not get rid of it
I’ve seen high profile politicians at premier league games. Arsenal has many areas where just season ticket holders sit, that’s the same people game after game. To say he can’t sit with the plebs, the working class, is ridiculous!
He's pm for him to sit in a, normal seat would cause a potential security problems because some people just can't behave
It's nothing personal and would also save our tax money paying for his security
Free gear starmer the granny harmer.
Prince William and Prince George didn’t sit in a box while watching the football
Incompetent Starmer leave the NHS alone. Shut the borders simple
You're far right!
@@HughJannus-vw4om and proud of it. Keep Britain British
@@Andrew-wq3tu Define British ??
2TierKier must have an Arsenal shirt. The one with Visit Rwanda on the sleeve. I kid you not.
How do these people avoid PAYE ,,,, why are they classed as self employed when us prolls are paying their "RISK FREE" wages ??? what is HMRC doing about it ??
It bothers me how insecure Kei Starmer feels. If he is concerned about his safety why does remove himself from public office as it's obvious he feels he's not fit for the role. Or is he having the illusion of grandeur as no other Prime Minister has had to have a private box given to him so he's not fit to govern.
If the box is warm, perhaps they could put some OAP in it ?
How is this Evan being debated absolutely disgusting
Propaganda for the masses, they are not even attempting to hide it,that aside they are talking tripe.
Charge the ones that have not put into the system. I have not had any problems with the NHS. Say goodbye to Labour they are ruining our Country. The prisoners we are paying for that are not British citizens send them home. The country would save a lot of money. Kier is just looking after himself end of. Will the prime minister pay for funerals of the pensioners who will not be putting heating on or even eating this winter???
Don't care what football team Kier supports come on start supporting the pensioners.
If only the man of the sunny uplands Boris was still PM.
Is Ransack Reeves on the scrounge as well 🤔
He spoke in the house while taking £107k of freebies. The biggest sponger by far. And still this presenter still tries to make it less of an issue. Any chance of balanced reporting and questioning and in fact doing some journalism? No? Didn’t think so.
Why would anyone want to hurt him he’s letting all the criminals out
Get shut of the managers for this and that,many of them get more than direct medical staff
The NHS is a waste of money.
If they take away the 25%from Council tax and the Bus pass many pensioners won’t be able to pay their bills and they will need to accept the Pension is too low .
Good stuff Iain
Get the lettuce out!!!
Freebie Keir.
Hardly a debate.
Privateer talking shop.
The elites have decided the nhs must be privatised. Other opinions don’t matter.
Yet again it seems the young will inherit the consequences of the questionable decisions made by their elders.
just a change of management - vote Reform
Deform failed.
So did Brexit.
They want US style Health Insurance.
Green*
Farage claimed £2 million in expenses in 2009 when he was an MEP.
I wonder if he will be required to pay tax on the cost of this ticket ?
The nhs is done. Its been dead for 20 years
That is a laugh coming from Ian Dale
Maybe just not go see some grownups kicking a ball
The people should boo starmar at arsenal today boycott
Does kier Starmer really believe what comes out ofhismouth
7,51 listen.
It’s ok for working class politicians to accept freebies.
Starmer and Reeves Should Be Sacked Immediately,Going Back On Everything,Starmer already On the Make taking Backhanders from anyone Giving Access to A Lobbyist to Parliament, Get Rid Of This Ponce.
If you want to look at Europe as the better option, look no farther that the OAP, it speak for itself, if we where payed the OAP, that they get, we would not need this £300.00 winters money, would we. So don’t go there.
If more people in the UK took more responsibility for their health - eating less, less often and healthier foods, drinking less, giving up smoking and exercising more - we wouldn't have so many long waits for those who become ill through no fault of their own! That's the reason why the NHS is broken - because of too many people who think they can live like pigs and then get their self inflicted health problems sorted out at taxpayers expense. As for private health insurance - it costs a pittance each month compared to the amount some people spend on cigarettes and alcohol. Which is worse - someone who keeps healthy and has private health insurance that they are less likely to use because they have a healthier lifestyle or someone who thinks private health care is a sin because they are committed to the NHS - but smokes like a chimney and eats like a pig and ends up adding to the NHS queue because they haven't taken responsibility for their own health?
sorry but Kate garraway is being a bit annoying… all of the people discussing this topic don’t have a clue and can all afford to pay more people don’t choose poverty and illy and unemployment . Why is it every time there is a discussion about the mess the government have made the most vulnerable get blamed . People hdd as be health issues in the uk because of poverty and the rich and poor gap :. Sort out equality for all and we would see better physical and mental health . Meantime bore off Kate thought you would of stood up for the other side the vulnerable
The end game is in the bible. Jesus returns and Israel enemies will be defeated.
Nobody likes him
Two terrible presenters. Almost as amateur as the Labour Party
Get rid of the NHS make it private.. it served a purpose back in the time but the world is very very different now and the system just doesn't work its too expensive .
Good luck with that. Privatised health doesn't work. Do some research into America. Most people can't afford essential medications and treatments. A lot of medical insurances do not cover people fully. They will try and get out of paying for a lot and people have to remortgage their houses. Also medications do not have a price cap and you can pay a lot of money that shouldn't cost that much.
It's not too expensive. The Tories just refused to properly fund and invest for over 10 years.
@@NotoriousEKB No money left 2010....Broken Britain Bankrupt.
You have no idea what a private health care system would be like! In the US, the biggest reason for people going bankrupt is because of unpaid medical bills. Privatising healthcare would introduce huge amount of fraud. In the US, there are billions wasted every year in medical fraud.
It was ranked as the number 1 healthcare system in the world back in 2010. I wonder what happened around then…🧐
Can I pick up arsenal ticket u will not be using on 26th Oct day of March and can u get my dad an overcoat and can u give pensioners without saving £300 for winter fuel please not much to ask for u given 9 billion away well ed did and one last thing stop them boats that's it for now prime your only good if do not get my ticket will not vote for u again see u soon 26 th Oct keep well