The Swedish Strv 74 you refered to was a 75mm gun in a turret that used armor sloping to compensate for armor thickness and complying with requirements determined by flatbed train car/tunnel width, and the turret ring size and weight restrictions of the, by then anemic Strv m/42 hull, drive train and suspension. The reds, in their contemporary T44s and IS-3s would have laughed themselves to death on seeing it if they had turned the cold war hot in the early-mid 50ies... Not long after the Strv 74 entered service, it was replaced by the far more competent Strv 81 (centurion mk3) followed by the Strv 101(Cent mk10) Strv 102 (upgraded Strv 81) and Strv 103 (S-tank). The centurions were further upgraded to Strv 104 and 105 while the Strv 103 was upgraded to B and C versions before both the S-tank and Centurions were phased out in the '90ies-'00s and replaced with Leopard 2A4s (Leased as Strv 121) and Strv122 (Leopard 2A5+ standard produced domestically under licence)
Oh, and the only American tank that's been purchased by the Swedish defence administration was a Sherman Firefly, for evaluation purposes, along with a King Tiger, the Sherman on display at the Swedish tank museum Arsenalen, and the latter litterally shot to slag by Bofors in the development of the Carl Gustaf recoilless rifle and other early cold war AT weapons once the non destructive evaluation was complete.
BAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEBLLLLLLLLAAAAADDDDEEEEE [i believe this is an actual line in a game i have seen to many memes on this] I have a feeling its not going to do good, just do to SHEER GIRTH though supposedly if i recall in lore those things are a pain in the god dam rear to destroy but idk the reasoning if its more armor or different type of armor. I don't think it has a void shield??? idk i subbed just to see that video.
Fun fact, in the lore tankers in the imperium tend to hate the Leman Russ. It is horribly unbearable to be inside it due to heat and cramped quarters (which get even smaller if you throw sponsons on it. And it being so tall means the only way to get cover from fire, is to hide behind another leman russ. The only saving grace (again in lore) is how cheap it is to produce, where you can churn out hundreds of the things in record time.
@@glandhound It is true that it is mentioned in several books by different authors that the inside of a Leman Russ is cramped and difficult to breathe in after prolonged fighting, but I do not recall it being hated by the crews.
@@MizantropMan it was hated by its crew, the novel: Warhawk has this quote from a tank commander. And of all the possible tanks to be stuck in, a Leman Russ was probably the worst. People spoke of it as the Pride of the Imperium, the greatest battle tank in human history, the mainstay of the Great Crusade. Was it shit. A Leman Russ was a rolling deathtrap. Its tall profile was so notoriously awful that no commander ever wanted to be squadron leader - the only thing big enough to shield a Leman Russ during operations was another Leman Russ, so better to keep the command unit ahead of you for as long as you could. Its fragile tracks were exposed and its armour was a mess of easy-to-hit vertical planes. The standard pattern sponson-bulges just presented another flat edge to destroy, another reason to be glad not to have them. The interior was noisy and prone to bursting into flames whenever a loader coughed too loudly. And, if you were truly unlucky enough to have those sponsons, there was only one escape hatch, right at the top of the main turret, and so the chances of getting out alive in case of all-too-likely disaster were practically zero. No, whoever had designed the Leman Russ - Kaska had always assumed it wasn’t actually the primarch of the VI - was a moron. Or a sadist. Or both. The only things it had going for it were cheapness, mechanical reliability and a certain rugged survivability in numbers. The design was so brutally simple that the Imperium was able to churn them out by the million. It mattered less that each individual unit was a study in self-harm when you could overwhelm a battlefield with hundreds of them. And a front-mounted lascannon at least could keep firing as long as its power packs held a charge, which made running out of shells somewhat less of a disaster.
I remember excitedly showing my father Sodaz Krieg animation. 34 years service (infantry) and unfamiliar with 40k, though he's the one who introduced me to all the sci-fi of my childhood. The Leman Russ is on screen for less then 2 seconds and the old man mutters, 'Is that riveted armor?'
Otherwise known as a 14 ft tall cluster munition. If the power pack goes up this thing will take out the enemy that's overrunning it fairly easily, at least if they were smart enough to not have allied infantry within about 25 or 30 ft of it.
@@leechowning2712 A lot of modern armor is also bolted on or riveted. Because how else you can mount it and then take it off as convenient? That being said they made up some high sci-fi BS to explain the bolted-on looks of the Mark V Heresy style power armor so mayhaps they use something similar on Imperial vehicles, as well.
Interestingly there was a model builder who made a "Leman Russ" using the hull of a Malcador tank from Forge World and the Vanquisher turret from the Death Korps of Krieg version of the Russ (which is probably the best proportioned turret variant) and made a model that has exactly the same basic layout as a Russ but looks WAY more realistic.
What I found a little interesting is this video made me think about the cut away drawings of the Russ and the original cut way of the Leman Russ Demolisher from 2nd Ed doesn't have a loader at all instead a tube that could be an auto loader unfortunately the crease of the page it was printed on makes it a bit distorted but as a layout it makes a tad more bit of sense (even if it's a very old style cartooney bit of art)
@@maddlarkin Yeah, there seems to be variants of the Russ both with and without auto-loaders. In reality, this is of course artist interpretation. In-universe, I expect it depends largely on which Forgeworld manufactured them. Most seem to have the human loader. Although it's fan-art, I think Grimskull's cut-away interpretation is probably one of the more reasonable ones.
@@wolfehoffmann2697 (okay this one got away from me, the TLDR is GW's 40k design philosphy radically shifted between 2nd and 3rd edition and that out of universe reason is more what shaped the Russ's spec's than the in-lore explanations and GreySkull's stuff is awesome) In this case I think it's more the out of universe explanation, the first cut away was done when the Russ released back in 2nd Ed, that's pre-Abnett and pre-Imerpial Armour and the Guard was a very different beast, it's really hard to express just how much Abnett's early books shaped the Imperial Guard as we know it, his depictions of the Guard in the Ghosts novels as a competent military with advanced tactics has such a huge impact, even the terms 40k specific terms like vox or auspex were first used there. GW re-wrote the 3rd codex (which was great as the previous Jervis codex had been shit) based on the Guard presented in the Sabbat Worlds. 3rd ed had a more grounded design philosohy, hence why squats disapearence and this lead to Imperial Armour books the nearest 40k ever came to a vehicle tech manual, but the guy making as was working in this more grounded (comparatively) setting he lifted the specs of Western MBT's probably an Abrams and applied them to the Russ, those specs just happened to include a loader (I mean the KPH speed is about the same as the MPH was listed on the Abrams at the time I'm pretty sure he just copied it across the number without noticing) In universe different patterns, eras and configurations all make perfect sense, especially as it's a Demolisher those shells are massive human loader would have issues, but I just think it's really intresting how the settings design philosophy effected thr configuration and listed specs of a vehicle over time (esp as ai don't remember any over races vehicles getting the same treatment) And absolutely GreySkull cutaways are the best depiction of the current accepted Russ specs, fanart or not, honestly every thing that guy does is amazing (I'm building a whole Warhawks army baed on one of his drawings)
The Vanq turret definitely looks the best. I put one on one of my two Russ's when I played more. Devastating and it looked awesome. On that same note you could kitbash a Chimera with some leftover Russ parts and it became a much more plausible loooking APC, as well. Moving the hull back slightly in the track pods.
I believe there is a mention in an old tau codex that they found out while taking one apart that there is a shield generator installed in the leman Russ. They tau were confused that they never encountered a single tank actually using it. They concluded that the crews never knew it was part of the tank or that they were forbidden from turning it on for some reason.
Considering that one of the last things the rogue AI did before being completely disconnected was to corrupt as much of the template designs as possible, and a shield generator would be one of those things that every human would turn on, I expect that at least part of the time the thing has a bad habit of turning the tank into a microwave. Between the actual Spirit component of the warp and the rogue AI issues they had during the collapse, almost every weapon has a instant fail mode. It's what keeps them from ever getting anywhere.
The GW writing staff suck rather badly at internal consistency, but the Imperium does have shield tech, vehicle power fields are rare and expensive but not unknown, so a tech-priest would know what he was looking at if he inspected it, only rational explanation I can conjure for such an incident is the tank was misappropriated by some administratum imbecile, to a crew that did in fact not know it was equipped with one, and possibly some general elsewhere wondering where the hell the top-tier tank he requisitioned went.
@@HighmageDerin Predator Tank isn't too complicated. They took Federation garbage transport and mini equipment and militarized it. The Imperium are basically orks against their own crippled society feedin' on the remnants of what was once a respectable human Galactic Nation. Which makes the Big E the Emperor King of the Techno Barbarians.
@@YuGiOhAbridgeFAN meh, i follow The Greater Good anyways. I may be xenos scum, but atleast we have modern comforts and our Etherial Leaders dont expect us to commit sucide working in the metal smelter..... AS its smelting........
I was always under the impression that the Baneblade was the MBT from the peak of the Dark Age of Technology and that the Leman Russ was a "jack of all trades" "one machine for multiple jobs" tractor for developing colonies where resources are limited, but you still need to respond to unexpected events. Get a base tractor unit. Stick a dozer on it to build roads. Stick a crane on it to lift stuff. Stick a turret on it to shoot stuff. Stick a plough behind it to farm. Etc.
Yep, that was how the developers presented the 'Russ originally. It was an excavator (think Caterpillar --> Bob Semple tank), a design available in the STC-colony-startup pack. The reason it's still around, is that the real tanks were (supposedly) crammed full of forbidden technology (think AI) and hence unavailable. Also, the completely moronic ban on actual technological development prohibits the evolution of anything even remotely looking like a real tank. As for the Baneblade-series tanks, it seems that the original patterns have gradually taken on a more gothic appearance. Just compare the current plastic kits to the first resin-kits made available by Forge-world (they are long-since discontinued). Those early designs looked high-tech and modern.
funnily enough in the dark age, current Terminator power armor was "suitable for mining purposes and not rated for combat", makes you wonder bout the baneblade/leman russ tanks
I'm glad the Leman Russ has kept it's goofy proportions, especially since the Land Raider lost it's original shape. It reminds me that I'm playing with toy soldiers and to have fun with the game.
Honestly, I wouldn't be as concerned about that since many of the anti-armour weapons the Guard face off against are energy weapons. If you're an infantryman accompanying the tanks though.... then worry about it, because one really good ammo cook-off is going to turn that Russ into a clusterbomb.
I now want to see your take on the Baneblade and its downright absurd variants like the Stormhammer or the Stormlord, and of course, the Legiones Astartes superheavies like the Falchion, Glaive and Fellblade
The size & make up of a Banenlade (even a standard one) depends entirely on who is writing the book. Sometimes it's a massive tank with 11 barrels of hell, other times it's a multi-story building sized behemoth with 36 barrels of Feth You. Then on top of that there are the variants, because the Guard can't have a proper milti-role heavy/super-heavy tank. No, they have to have mostly specialist variants that are skewed to take on one or two types of enemy units.
One idea that a lot of settings forget about, but which the Leman Russ gets right is that, when designing a faction's go-to battle tank, it's much less likely to represent the best technology that the faction can produce; rather, it's more likely to represent the best technology that the faction can standardise. When you're waging war light years away from your mustering zones, you either need to bring all your spare parts with you, use a design compatible with whatever spare parts are produced in the area where you intend to wage war, or (preferably) both.
The one thing that really bothers me about the Leman Russ is the top view, where the tank commander's hatch is positioned right above or just slightly behind where the breech of the main gun should be. The amount of faith that this would require in the Adeptus Mechanicus to ensure that the gun isn't going to recoil into the tank commander's groin would be significant, as well as the ergonomics of reloading the cannon with the tank commander in the way. Offsetting the commander's hatch to one side or the other would make more sense from a design perspective; unfortunately, with the design being functionally holy writ, there's essentially no chance that such a change would ever happen without some sort of divine revelation.
@@seanmalloy7249 lol. I wonder how many commanders have been cut off mid battle cry/speech when their tank fires the first shot and see their commander crumple over the front of the tank. Probably hearing a choked whimper through the Vox
@@seanmalloy7249 oh but I enjoy feeling the power between my legs... And yes what I would do is simply extend a shroud through the entire commanders deck, and he rides the thing like a pony.
I find it real interesting to see the take on scifi tanks from a real life perspective. Props on knowing all the 40k law and intertwining it well with real life physics/ideals.
As a note the reason the Russ makes sense is a lot of the specs were originally conceived for the Imperial Armour books which came out in a period where GW were trying to make the setting a bit more grounded (comparatively it's still 40k) and the guy writing it basically lifted a lot of the specs from mordern MBT's (circa 2003) then added sci-finess as needed, although the speed was a lot lower then at 35kmph, (I think someone for their KMPH and MPH mixed up) part of me wishes they'd adapted a few of the stats to fit the vehicle you see like the main guns breach looking a lot bigger than 120mm, but given how GW usually goes getting something that makes sense lorewise as well as practically I'll take that win.
You have to remember that Warhammer models are made to so called "heroic scale", where certian things like heads, hands and weapons are enlarged for better details. Some of this design choice is also affecting the vehicles.
In GW own words: Leman Russ was a rolling deathtrap. Its tall profile was so notoriously awful that no commander ever wanted to be squadron leader - the only thing big enough to shield a Leman Russ during operations was another Leman Russ, so better to keep the command unit ahead of you for as long as you could. Its fragile tracks were exposed and its armour was a mess of easy-to-hit vertical planes. The standard pattern sponson-bulges just presented another flat edge to destroy, another reason to be glad not to have them. The interior was noisy and prone to bursting into flames whenever a loader coughed too loudly. And, if you were truly unlucky enough to have those sponsons, there was only one escape hatch, right at the top of the main turret, and so the chances of getting out alive in case of all-too-likely disaster were practically zero. No, whoever had designed the Leman Russ - Kaska had always assumed it wasn't actually the primarch of the VI - was a moron. Or a sadist. Or both. The only things it had going for it were cheapness, mechanical reliability and a certain rugged survivability in numbers. The design was so brutally simple that the Imperium was able to churn them out by the million. It mattered less that each individual unit was a study in self-harm when you could overwhelm a battlefield with hundreds of them. Still, all in all, the crews had few illusions about the tanks they rode into war. Deathboxes, they were called, and homewreckers, and other, earthier, names too
One of the things to mention is how wildly different Leman Russ can be. One that is nailed together on a barely industrialized world is going to be very different to one that is produced by a Forge World. One of the main reasons why the tank is so popular is that it's easy to put together, easy to repair and will run on virtually everything from alcohol to coal.
Fun fact, according to some old lore it was in fact the wolves that named the tank as a bit of a playful insult to their primearch because it was small over gunned and just kinda derpy.
Liked hearing a real tanker's perspective on the Leman Russ. Could you look into the Demolisher MBT and others from BattleTech for a video? Not quite as insane as 40k but I would like to see someone cover the non-stompy-robot units of that universe.
"What the Imperium can do better...."! How dare you, sir! This magnificent piece of technology was gifted to you from the hard working s̵l̵a̵v̵e̵s̵ labor core and holy priest of the adeptus mechanicum. To even think that something so perfect can be made better is tech heresy! I have no choice but report you to the next commisar for s̵h̵o̵o̵t̵i̵n̵g̵ reeducation.
I would love to see the baneblade and malcadors analysis next, I feel as if those would be more entertaining to tear apart. On the hobby side, if you use a predator turret and the barrel from the imperial knight battle cannon, it reduces the profile and makes it look pretty cool. Also, the kromlech trench treads solve that squat profile look, making it again look a lot nicer.
This came up on my feed. You're right. Probably none of us are subscribed, but you know what, god damn it, this is the kind of content I'm here for. Subbed at 46 seconds in. Good luck on this trajectory my dude.
The Leman Russ Tank. The perfect example of what Warhammer 40k is, blunt, crude, ugly, yet very effective. Never underestimate the Leman Russ when they come in the numbers they do. The M4 Sherman of 40k, vast, variable weapons, easy for the Imperium to produce, and very reliable compared to its contemporaries. My personal favorite tank in 40k, inspite of all of its flaws. It takes the cool designs of the WW1 landships and brings them into the 41st, now 42nd, Millennium. Loving these videos, and I'll stay to watch more than catch my eye. Also that GuP x 40k fanart thumbnail really caught my eye since I love both GuP and 40k.
E651 Titan, ~25 meters long and has a main gun that sends the tank a VERY noticeable distance backwards (or whatever direction is opposite to where the gun points, and I have yet to see someone actually tackle EDF's vehicles and their realistic practicality on youtube. But aside from it's monstrously painful (in all aspects) main gun, that fires a round that travels so slowly, that the Tank itself can outpace it (once it stops sliding from the recoil), it has a Bow mounted Machinegun, and two secondary turrets ontop of the main one, that each contain a Smoothbore gun, and a Grenade Launcher or Missile Launcher. EDF also have the Epsilon, Gigantus and Naegling for more traditional ground vehicles, Gigantus being the only notable one since it has a variant that packs a Laser, one that packs acid in place of normal ammo, normally it has a main gun in 105mm but can be mounted with guns up to 140mm, and no MGs of any kind (unlike the Sceptrum III which has two MG turrets placed a bit under the main gun/above the tracks and one ontop of it), and the Blacker is more or less just a Gigantus with a different name, only differences, it can mount a grenade launcher instead of the main gun, and the smallest actual cannon/gun it has is a 90mm Smoothbore, and has no Laser alternate main gun. Also EDF calls a lot of things (namely Tank cannons/guns) "Howitzers" when they aren't in the slightest.
The Russ would suck today, but it's an excellent design for the universe of 40k. The shape of the tracks is ideal in a galaxy where trench warfare is the norm. The side sponsons are a godsend if you're fighting an enemy that shows up in the hundreds of millions. Very common in 40k. Given the number they shove out, it's likely very easy to train new crewmen on. Excellent adaptability, you can fit it with many different weapons for different situations. Overall, it fits in perfectly with the Astra Militarum's doctrine. Overwhelming firepower, shoved out of a forge-world in overwhelming numbers.
I dunno... It has more weapon coverage and angles than the modern tanks, plus dunno if its armor is stronger than what we use now... Plus these tanks can plow through buildings and not care... Plus from what I can tell... Easier assembly and not as many finely made parts.
I'd take my chances in the trenches with a lasgun sooner than I'd be willing to crew a Leman Russ. Sick video, looking forward to the Baneblade one, I'm sure you've gotten a ton of requests for other tank patterns too, and have no desire to become a "40k channel" but I am interested in hearing your thoughts on the Rogal Dorn, and Predator tanks. Figured I could throw it out there as an idea.
I'd love to hear his thoughts on the Dorn too. The first time I looked at that thing, I was like "Where the fuck does all the ammo go?" because there's 4-5 different kind of kinetic weapons systems to supply ammo for depending on variant of the tank. It's a quartermaster's nightmare. GW needs to learn that not everything needs to have heavy stubbers all over it. Laser weapons, especially multi-lasers, are okay too, and arguably make more sense.
@@wolfehoffmann2697 True. 40 rounds for the main cannon and then every other weapon being a laser would be far more effective and realistic to crew. As it stands the crew probably wraps the ammo around themselves.
Also helps to remember some or maybe many of the Imperiums manufacturing worlds are stuck trying to get out of the medieval ages. You just have to look at all that riveted armor (most countries on Earth used welded armor by WW2) to realize it's really about what Humanity can make with limited advancement and indeed, purposely regressed advancement (probably no coincidence the Mechancius keeps a lid on all new tech being developed and retains their monopoly as infinitum)
@Dustin Jones there is little to no difference for the general layout design, what technology to use for bringing armor in the shape of tank: you can cast whole tank hull if your level of technological culture allows that (and you know what you are doing), you can weld together lists of afmour, you can fix them with rivets. In the end, it doesn't matter for the shape and doesn't explain in the slightest why "repurposed colonial buldozer chassis" (most of standard technological templates, Mechanicus tend to hunt, are NOT for military use - for example space marine terminator armour is the former civilian exosceleton-hazmat suit of the Dark age of Technology) uses the most inefficient for that purpose chassis base of British "marks". It is equally bad for a combat vehicle just as for civilian chassis.
I like that the thumbnail is a picture of a Leman Russ battle tank with the paintjob of Ooarai Girls Academy's Anglerfish Team's Panzer IV H and Miho Nishizumi in the commander's cupola.
I really like your style of presentation and sense of humor. This gives me an idea to do a similar thing with the big guns of 40k from the perspective of an artilleryman.
There's a meme out there somewhere, showing the hull of British Mk4 romboid, combined with the turret of Krupp's panzer 4 and the ML-20 howitzer from an SU or ISU-152. That's pretty much a Leman Russ.
You should do a review of some of BattleTech's many tanks! The Patton, Demolisher, Scorpion and Merkava instantly spring to mind That and, of course, a tanker's view on vehicles such as Mass Effect's Mako, which is BasicallyAStryker
I know people hate on the Mako but I honestly had a lot of fun playing in that thing. And I really appreciated the lore reasons for how weapons functioned in ME1, it's a shame they threw that out for the sequels. Like, we've solved the ammo problem of combat, now let's just bring it back.
Got to respect anything able to point twin ac20's at someone. That's enough to wipe many mechs out in a single salvo, though it only really counts in a city where the range isnt an issue. Which is why there are ppc carriers, i guess.
@@silvercat18 It's the Urbie, but heavier and significantly funnier. Though, that doesn't mean I'm not scared even in 3150 of two AC/20 shots outta one vehicle
so what ive gathered from all this is that its basically an abrams but with better armor no blow outs and twice as tall and fat but again much better armor plus has way more guns heavier secondaries and can be upgraded to better cannons and it can run on any fuel...so yeah the rus is the best of what you already love with the abrams and then some more
Nice video! If you're doing more of these, please do the Merkava (latest mark) from real world and the Baneblade from 40K. Merkava always intrigued me because of the mortar. Thanks for doing what you do.
One thing I quite like about the Russ in-universe is the IoM *can* manufacture much fancier tanks (technologically speaking), but, due to how cheap/easy to manufacture they are, they’ll often just focus more on throwing out Leman Russes, given they also have no shortage of crews for them. Sure, you could make a crazy plasma-gun-equipped hover tank that moves at the speed of sound and needs several decades of crew training (plus said crew being heavily augmented), but for that price/opportunity cost you could just make several hundred Leman Russes. It’s also why they give their basic infantry lasguns rather than any of the more advanced weapons they have access to- they’re much more feasible to give to an entire absurdly sized army, can be maintained by one person with minimal training, don’t need ammunition (instead having rechargeable batteries).
I mean, aside from being an ATGM magnet with no suspension and only 150mm of plastic/steel hybrid armor on its front. I'm sure it's a match for any MBT. Jokes aside, great video. I was debating starting a video series like this, but I'm happy to see someone actually comit to it.
The Strv74 was the result of merging the chassis of an outdated tank, the Strv m/42, with a completely redesigned turret. The large turret was necessary to fit the substantially larger and more potent main gun on the small tank chassis. The gun, too, was re-purposed, originally being a pre-ww2 anti-air cannon. The Swedish armored brigades were gradually re-equipped after ww2 with a mix of different tanks. The most important one being the British Centurion. The Strv74 was a temporary solution that extended the service life of the Strv m/42 until it could, in turn, be replaced by the Strv103 (s-tank). The Strv74 ended it's career as a support asset for the infantry brigades, before having the turret and gun removed, for use in coastal fortifications and other strongpoints. The Strv74 had some advantages over larger tanks, as it could drive between trees, or poke its gun over crests without exposing its hull. It would have been effective when used with care, though with a 75 mm gun and relatively weak armor, it wasn't meant to go toe-to-toe with MBTs like the T55 and later models. Also, it rocked considerably when firing to the 3 and 9 o'clock positions, though not as badly as sometimes claimed. The Strv m/42 was a Swedish design, obviously predating the m48 Patton, and the Strv74 turret and gun were also Swedish designs.
Loved the video @A Tankers View! Can't wait for the next video man! My Introduction to Warhammer 40K was Alongside my Introduction to @Rimmy Downunder's Channel a few years ago in the ArmA 3 Community. Even I was Laughing my Head off at all the Different Ways to Arm this Behemoth of a Tank. Truth be told though, I am a Simple Guy, if I see The Ladies of Girls und Panzer or anything from 40K.... I'm clicking Faster than a Trench Charge by the Death Korps of Krieg LMAO!
Love the video, can't wait to see more! I'd love to see deeper dive into comparisons to current/historical tanks. Especially on the flaws part, I think it'd be interesting to know why fantasy tanks would fail based off of results we know.
In some editions, tanks have a scoot-and-shoot rule. If they race at top speed, they can't fire their big main gun. If they stand still, all the ludicrous little side sponsons and the driver's bow gun and the main gun and probably the commander's little pintle-mounted thing can shoot. The commander's stormbolter/heavy stubber is sometimes an extra option. I remember 40k crews being larger. Not just in superheavy tanks where a dozen dudes can sit inside, but every sort of vehicle always seems to have one or two dudes extra. I guess the commander doubles as the radio man in this thing, and the driver operates the little driver's bolter up front. Why 40k vehicles look the way they do sometimes comes down to how they could mold models back in the 80's. Everything has that stubby look to it. Models of troops, vehicles, space elfs, monsters, everything. The tanks too.
Today TH-cam was not terrible and recommended me a video and new channel that I actually liked. Subscribed, my dude. But, you know what you have to do now, right? ...You have to do a video on the Baneblade. It's humanity's most iconic tank, a super-heavy behemoth relic from the Dark Age of Technology (despite a lot of people saying it was a scout/light tank in the DAoT, I've never actually seen that stated - the closest reasoning I can find is that Epic minis once called the Baneblade a "Medium"-sized model/tank). Not quite on the same level as a Bolo tank (...then again, what is?), but it's design in-universe is generally well-thought out (the variants have issues with the turrets not being able to transverse due to sponsons or secondary turrets being in the way, but that isn't an issue for the original Baneblade). And, ironically, it isn't even the heaviest tank humanity seriously considered even in our own reality - the Baneblade is a hefty monster at 316 tons... but... that's still only about 1/3 the weight of a Landkreuzer P.1000 Ratte.
Great video! If you are planning on making more videos on sci-fi tanks, I suggest the Type 61 Tank & HT-01B Magella Attack from Gundam's Universal Century Timeline.
Oh, these would be fun ones. Especially the M61/Type 61. The tank that was designed to fight under very advanced modern conditions, satellite uplinks, constant battlefield awareness, an incredible amount of automation that made it almost feasible for one man to both command the tank and serve as gunner and communications (Personally I still think the TC is overworked though.) but thanks to the Minovsky particle/waste radiation from Zeon's microfusion reactors and the destruction of the satellite network in orbit after Zeon captured half of the moon, was forced to fight under the same kind of conditions that a 1960s era tanker would expect to deal with. At least the laser range finder still worked, and the 155mm guns were still sufficient for punching most Zeon mobile suit armor, and they did fix the crew workload issue later in the war by adding a third crewman. The Magella is an absurd design, but the Zeon did have other tank designs. A light airborne tank called the Magella Eins, and there's photos around of the another tank called an M1. I don't read Japanese so I don't know the name of it. But it's on the same general hull as the Magella, but it has a more reasonable sloped front and traditional turret arrangement with a missile launcher attached to the side. There seems to be a variant of it as well with a shorter main gun and coaxial machine-gun. I'll see if I can post photo links.
And there's the prototype Magella and another variant. cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/708959061902622741/1029407254966960159/mobilesuitvariation3_168.png
An actual quote from a Leman Russ Tank commander, on the Leman Russ, from one of the Novels. “The Leman Russ was a rolling deathtrap. Its tall profile was so notoriously awful that no commander ever wanted to be squadron leader - the only thing big enough to shield a Leman Russ during operations was another Leman Russ, so better to keep the command unit ahead of you for as long as you could. Its fragile tracks were exposed and its armour was a mess of easy-to-hit vertical planes. The standard pattern sponson-bulges just presented another flat edge to destroy, another reason to be glad not to have them. The interior was noisy and prone to bursting into flames whenever a loader coughed too loudly. And, if you were truly unlucky enough to have those sponsons, there was only one escape hatch, right at the top of the main turret, and so the chances of getting out alive in case of all-too-likely disaster were practically zero. No, whoever had designed the Leman Russ - Kaska had always assumed it wasn't actually the primarch of the VI - was a moron. Or a sadist. Or both. The only things it had going for it were cheapness, mechanical reliability and a certain rugged survivability in numbers. The design was so brutally simple that the Imperium was able to churn them out by the million. It mattered less that each individual unit was a study in self-harm when you could overwhelm a battlefield with hundreds of them. Still, all in all, the crews had few illusions about the tanks they rode into war. Deathboxes, they were called, and homewreckers, and other, earthier, names too”
"Nothing gets the algorithm off more than a 40k vid" True, and it worked. It's been bugging me to watch this for almost a week and I've never seen your channel before. Well done dude! Now I'm off to watch your Abrams x video
The lack of hatches for the crew and tiny turret are serious issues that I'm surprised you didn't point out. As well as the bow gun, which we abandoned in the late 40s to early 50s, which introduces a weak point in the armor. Also, sponson guns were never good.
1:50 Hitting the nail on the head. 40k tanks are built for real-life model production first (it's interesting to see what design innovations they come up with when needing to design plastic toy kits), style second, and realism basically not at all. And that's what we love about it
The very idea that in the 41 millennium they are still using riveted hull construction, just demonstrates how technically FUBAR a lot of the tech is at its core.
the Strv74 is based on the frame of the Stridsvagn m/42 (the 42 standing for the year of aproved for production) so if somebody is based on somebody it would be the patton based of the Strv xD
I think you should do a video on Titanfall's Titans (both gen 1 and/or 2) from the perspective of them as Infantry support platforms in the same vein as the US Army's new MPF vehicle.
If you wonder why the Leman Russ is designed so badly, it's because originally it was designed as a farming vehicle which colonists on planets converted into a weapon to fight off innumerable invasions from the many threats in the galaxy
One of the things i love about the imperium in 40k is the insane sane diversity of style of technology when it comes to weapons and warmachines. Leman russ as mentioned looks like a mix of ww1/ww2 era tanks, but made with magic sifi materials, all the way to fancy hover tanks with laser weapons that can be dropped from orbit and just use the anti grav propulsion to control their decent. (Repulsors) And then you have everything in between
I came across these videos a year late, but it appears to me that some of the earlier Warhammer tanks were designed after the british Mark I tank, invented 1915. The male, female and herm variants of the tank up to Mark V had the exposed upper treads and sponsons fitted to the sides. The sponsons had to be removed for transport because they were too wide to be sent by train. Even the interior was similar to a command centre in that the entrance and exits to the tank were from the backside of the sponsons (on the Mark I at least) They could fit 7 people at peak operational capacity, etc. Considering that Games Workshop is a british company, it would not surprise me if they looked at various british and german tank designs and combined whatever looked cool.
Cool video. Some of the editing is off with text being blocked by your body, but this was pretty informative and interesting. I subbed and am looking forward to watching your other stuff.
One thing I do like about the Leman Russ is the diversity of weapon options. We've designed our tanks to fight other tanks and modern human armies. Something like an Abrams would be a lot less effective against many xenos threats the galaxy throws at the Imperium. If you're fighting Orks or Tyranids, those sponsons suddenly become a lot more attractive. Manufacturing dozens of different variants makes the logistics harder, but increases the chance of having the right tool for the right job when you don't know who you're fighting next. The absurd Imperial regimental system (only being tanks, infantry, artillery etc) also forces the Leman Russ to attempt to fill more battlefield roles. A real possibility is that a commander might only have tank regiments on hand to fight a war with. If you don't have infantry support, you'd best hope you have a few Punisher variants on hand, and those sponsons at least give some coverage on the flanks. Although if our real world had to face a similar diversity of threats we'd probably just make a modular MBT that we could add different turrets and armour types to. Which is essentially what the Eldar and T'au empire does with their Falcon and Devilfish chassis. And seeing as we believe in combined arms over hamstringing our own army due to political failures, no tank design would ever need to be quite as crazy as a Leman Russ.
As a former U.S. Army turret mechanic, I agree with you. The Leman Russ is to "tall" but otherwise not a bad tank; and would destroy ANYTHING in WW1, maybe even WW2. Only 40k tech would let it beat an M1A2 Abrahams. I would rather be in an Adeptus Astartes "Predator" That's more like a modern tank. However, I would prefer being in an M1A2 Abrahams over almost anything in 40k.
Would love to see follow-up video on Rogal Dorn tank, mainly with the idea of "is it upgrade over Leman Russ" in practical sense? Where it's better, where it makes no sense and even is it worse in some way?
To my understanding, Leman Russ Vanquisher is the closest equivalent to main battle tanks of Leman Russ variants. Vanquisher cannon is practically an anti-tank gun. Battle cannon is closer to an infantry gun or a howitzer on tank turret. Compare with Sherman tank guns 17-pounder (76,2 mm) and howitzer M4 (105 mm). Even without a blast radius, Vanquisher can be armed with plenty of dakka. That gives it versatility enough to give a finger at near anything that may come to cross its path.
Some of the design and development crew of 40k were known to friends of mine who even helped with early playtests (a LOT of alcohol and Hawkwind was involved if you catch my drift). They were heavily into inter war and ww2 vehicles, the Jankier the better. TOG, Char 2C, Char B, the multi turreted monsters like the T-35. You can see the lineage in the visual design.
Kind of "fluff" bits, but another thing fun to consider about the height of the russ', I believe this has actually been said at some point in the lore to be intentional, because the russ' was meant to be, and is, the absolutely massed produced general purpose tank meant to fight against whatever threat, but more importantly, with whatever imperium forces any battle calls for, key point here, space marines. The russ' is tall enough the main cannons can fire over space marines that will of course be fighting in front of them, this is why actually nearly every frontline combat vehicle of the imperium, from tanks, to transports, to even the smallest imperial guard walkers like sentinels are all quite tall, they're meant to be able to fire over everything from the swarms of guardsman, to towering space marines, wreckage of enemy vehicles, destroyed piles of structures, whatever it may be. In a funny way this actually makes the russ' quite tactical in its proportions and design, funny as that is lol.
@@atankersview Yup! Even though a fan vid, you actually see the practicality shown in the SODAZ Krieg vid you had in the background playing in this vid! The Russ' in that were more than tall enough to easily fire over the Dark Angel's that were with them, who were of course fighting in front of the tanks exactly like they do in lore. Even more than that, the side sponson heavy bolters are even high enough up to fire over the head of the standard guardsman, nearly enough to fire over the Dark Angel that was fighting next to one of the sponsons in one of the scenes. That's what the Russ is designed to do, just pure simple get the job done and easy to mass produce. You can fight with those things, around them, next to them, under them, whatever you want, the Russ don't give a damn either way lol, it is unleashing its firepower on the enemies of the emperor without issue in any case! It's one of the funny things about the imperium when it comes to their aesthetics. Yeah they have the whole neo gothic / WW1 imperial industrial aesthetic for most things, but, when you really dive head first into the endless abyss that is the lore, but in a funny way counting in the technological regression, imperial equipment tends to be actually pretty well practical in just a raw "just get the job done" kind of sense. Hell, look at the humble lasgun, those things you can literally recharge the mags by just throwing the things into a campfire and leaving them there overnight, hard to get more practical than all you need is some kind of fire to recharge your ammo and keep fighting LOL. That's the great thing about 40k, no matter how crazy, completely over the top and way over the edge it is, in its own very funny way it still all kinda goes together and makes sense lol, that's what makes it so fun!
I had someone criticize the various tanks/APCs from 40k a while back with the old "the sponsons are ridiculous, nobody uses them anymore." To which I had to inform him that a contemporary MBT wouldn't fair well against most of the Imperiums enemies because they don't have enough guns. Just going down the list, most of Mankind's enemies either have human (or worse) wave tactics of things that could shrug off a few .50s, or utilize more modern skirmish style infantry with space ninja magic that stand a decent chance of dodging a well aimed burst, or have fancy sci-fi protections. Or any combination therein. So you kinda have to rely on volume of fire either way. It's interwar American tank design writ large. More machine guns = more better. It's also cool in that inner child way. It would look more menacing if they scaled it out better. A slightly less than full sized Mk IV hull with a slightly larger than full size modern(ish) Nato style(ish) turret. Be a pig of a model to move around the table, so I get why they proportioned it oddly for the original wargame.
Thank you all so much for your support! The Baneblade video is coming. Sunday Jan 8
The Swedish Strv 74 you refered to was a 75mm gun in a turret that used armor sloping to compensate for armor thickness and complying with requirements determined by flatbed train car/tunnel width, and the turret ring size and weight restrictions of the, by then anemic Strv m/42 hull, drive train and suspension.
The reds, in their contemporary T44s and IS-3s would have laughed themselves to death on seeing it if they had turned the cold war hot in the early-mid 50ies...
Not long after the Strv 74 entered service, it was replaced by the far more competent Strv 81 (centurion mk3) followed by the Strv 101(Cent mk10) Strv 102 (upgraded Strv 81) and Strv 103 (S-tank).
The centurions were further upgraded to Strv 104 and 105 while the Strv 103 was upgraded to B and C versions before both the S-tank and Centurions were phased out in the '90ies-'00s and replaced with Leopard 2A4s (Leased as Strv 121) and Strv122 (Leopard 2A5+ standard produced domestically under licence)
Oh, and the only American tank that's been purchased by the Swedish defence administration was a Sherman Firefly, for evaluation purposes, along with a King Tiger, the Sherman on display at the Swedish tank museum Arsenalen, and the latter litterally shot to slag by Bofors in the development of the Carl Gustaf recoilless rifle and other early cold war AT weapons once the non destructive evaluation was complete.
BAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEBLLLLLLLLAAAAADDDDEEEEE
[i believe this is an actual line in a game i have seen to many memes on this]
I have a feeling its not going to do good, just do to SHEER GIRTH though supposedly if i recall in lore those things are a pain in the god dam rear to destroy but idk the reasoning if its more armor or different type of armor. I don't think it has a void shield??? idk i subbed just to see that video.
Oh good, I was about to comment that I didn't really see much point in the Leman Russ when you can just get a Baneblade instead /laugh
Do I smell a "It takes 6 Predators to kill a Baneblade" myth coming on? 😂
Fun fact, in the lore tankers in the imperium tend to hate the Leman Russ. It is horribly unbearable to be inside it due to heat and cramped quarters (which get even smaller if you throw sponsons on it. And it being so tall means the only way to get cover from fire, is to hide behind another leman russ. The only saving grace (again in lore) is how cheap it is to produce, where you can churn out hundreds of the things in record time.
This is neither fun or a fact.
@@glandhound It is true that it is mentioned in several books by different authors that the inside of a Leman Russ is cramped and difficult to breathe in after prolonged fighting, but I do not recall it being hated by the crews.
@@MizantropMan it was hated by its crew, the novel: Warhawk has this quote from a tank commander.
And of all the possible tanks to be stuck in, a Leman Russ was probably the worst. People spoke of it as the Pride of the Imperium, the greatest battle tank in human history, the mainstay of the Great Crusade. Was it shit. A Leman Russ was a rolling deathtrap. Its tall profile was so notoriously awful that no commander ever wanted to be squadron leader - the only thing big enough to shield a Leman Russ during operations was another Leman Russ, so better to keep the command unit ahead of you for as long as you could. Its fragile tracks were exposed and its armour was a mess of easy-to-hit vertical planes. The standard pattern sponson-bulges just presented another flat edge to destroy, another reason to be glad not to have them. The interior was noisy and prone to bursting into flames whenever a loader coughed too loudly. And, if you were truly unlucky enough to have those sponsons, there was only one escape hatch, right at the top of the main turret, and so the chances of getting out alive in case of all-too-likely disaster were practically zero.
No, whoever had designed the Leman Russ - Kaska had always assumed it wasn’t actually the primarch of the VI - was a moron. Or a sadist. Or both. The only things it had going for it were cheapness, mechanical reliability and a certain rugged survivability in numbers. The design was so brutally simple that the Imperium was able to churn them out by the million. It mattered less that each individual unit was a study in self-harm when you could overwhelm a battlefield with hundreds of them. And a front-mounted lascannon at least could keep firing as long as its power packs held a charge, which made running out of shells somewhat less of a disaster.
Pretty sure they took this uncomfortable interior idea from the british MK V from WW1, which it takes alot of it's design from. Checks out.
Baneblade is a 2 storey building on a track
I remember excitedly showing my father Sodaz Krieg animation. 34 years service (infantry) and unfamiliar with 40k, though he's the one who introduced me to all the sci-fi of my childhood.
The Leman Russ is on screen for less then 2 seconds and the old man mutters, 'Is that riveted armor?'
Otherwise known as a 14 ft tall cluster munition. If the power pack goes up this thing will take out the enemy that's overrunning it fairly easily, at least if they were smart enough to not have allied infantry within about 25 or 30 ft of it.
@Andrew Wiggins Well assuming Leman Russ armour is made of the same stuff today's tanks.
@@leechowning2712 A lot of modern armor is also bolted on or riveted. Because how else you can mount it and then take it off as convenient?
That being said they made up some high sci-fi BS to explain the bolted-on looks of the Mark V Heresy style power armor so mayhaps they use something similar on Imperial vehicles, as well.
Lol x)
Interestingly there was a model builder who made a "Leman Russ" using the hull of a Malcador tank from Forge World and the Vanquisher turret from the Death Korps of Krieg version of the Russ (which is probably the best proportioned turret variant) and made a model that has exactly the same basic layout as a Russ but looks WAY more realistic.
What I found a little interesting is this video made me think about the cut away drawings of the Russ and the original cut way of the Leman Russ Demolisher from 2nd Ed doesn't have a loader at all instead a tube that could be an auto loader unfortunately the crease of the page it was printed on makes it a bit distorted but as a layout it makes a tad more bit of sense (even if it's a very old style cartooney bit of art)
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@@maddlarkin Yeah, there seems to be variants of the Russ both with and without auto-loaders. In reality, this is of course artist interpretation. In-universe, I expect it depends largely on which Forgeworld manufactured them. Most seem to have the human loader. Although it's fan-art, I think Grimskull's cut-away interpretation is probably one of the more reasonable ones.
@@wolfehoffmann2697 (okay this one got away from me, the TLDR is GW's 40k design philosphy radically shifted between 2nd and 3rd edition and that out of universe reason is more what shaped the Russ's spec's than the in-lore explanations and GreySkull's stuff is awesome)
In this case I think it's more the out of universe explanation, the first cut away was done when the Russ released back in 2nd Ed, that's pre-Abnett and pre-Imerpial Armour and the Guard was a very different beast, it's really hard to express just how much Abnett's early books shaped the Imperial Guard as we know it, his depictions of the Guard in the Ghosts novels as a competent military with advanced tactics has such a huge impact, even the terms 40k specific terms like vox or auspex were first used there. GW re-wrote the 3rd codex (which was great as the previous Jervis codex had been shit) based on the Guard presented in the Sabbat Worlds.
3rd ed had a more grounded design philosohy, hence why squats disapearence and this lead to Imperial Armour books the nearest 40k ever came to a vehicle tech manual, but the guy making as was working in this more grounded (comparatively) setting he lifted the specs of Western MBT's probably an Abrams and applied them to the Russ, those specs just happened to include a loader (I mean the KPH speed is about the same as the MPH was listed on the Abrams at the time I'm pretty sure he just copied it across the number without noticing)
In universe different patterns, eras and configurations all make perfect sense, especially as it's a Demolisher those shells are massive human loader would have issues, but I just think it's really intresting how the settings design philosophy effected thr configuration and listed specs of a vehicle over time (esp as ai don't remember any over races vehicles getting the same treatment)
And absolutely GreySkull cutaways are the best depiction of the current accepted Russ specs, fanart or not, honestly every thing that guy does is amazing (I'm building a whole Warhawks army baed on one of his drawings)
The Vanq turret definitely looks the best. I put one on one of my two Russ's when I played more. Devastating and it looked awesome. On that same note you could kitbash a Chimera with some leftover Russ parts and it became a much more plausible loooking APC, as well. Moving the hull back slightly in the track pods.
I believe there is a mention in an old tau codex that they found out while taking one apart that there is a shield generator installed in the leman Russ. They tau were confused that they never encountered a single tank actually using it. They concluded that the crews never knew it was part of the tank or that they were forbidden from turning it on for some reason.
Considering that one of the last things the rogue AI did before being completely disconnected was to corrupt as much of the template designs as possible, and a shield generator would be one of those things that every human would turn on, I expect that at least part of the time the thing has a bad habit of turning the tank into a microwave. Between the actual Spirit component of the warp and the rogue AI issues they had during the collapse, almost every weapon has a instant fail mode. It's what keeps them from ever getting anywhere.
I'm guessing it doesn't actually work or not worth the resources to make it work
@@Aniyah-CHG but its still there....imagine the rogue AI's glee wasting extra resources to produce a non functioning but fully built shield generator
@@someguyontheinternet1093 at this point the 3D files are just black boxes, nobody has the faintest idea what actually is in them.
The GW writing staff suck rather badly at internal consistency, but the Imperium does have shield tech, vehicle power fields are rare and expensive but not unknown, so a tech-priest would know what he was looking at if he inspected it, only rational explanation I can conjure for such an incident is the tank was misappropriated by some administratum imbecile, to a crew that did in fact not know it was equipped with one, and possibly some general elsewhere wondering where the hell the top-tier tank he requisitioned went.
You gotta talk about the ridiculous baneblade now
They're still the space marine Predator
Storm blade shits on it
The BAAAAAAAAAAANE
BLAAAAAAAAAAAAADE!
@@HighmageDerin Predator Tank isn't too complicated. They took Federation garbage transport and mini equipment and militarized it.
The Imperium are basically orks against their own crippled society feedin' on the remnants of what was once a respectable human Galactic Nation.
Which makes the Big E the Emperor King of the Techno Barbarians.
@@YuGiOhAbridgeFAN meh, i follow The Greater Good anyways. I may be xenos scum, but atleast we have modern comforts and our Etherial Leaders dont expect us to commit sucide working in the metal smelter..... AS its smelting........
I was always under the impression that the Baneblade was the MBT from the peak of the Dark Age of Technology and that the Leman Russ was a "jack of all trades" "one machine for multiple jobs" tractor for developing colonies where resources are limited, but you still need to respond to unexpected events. Get a base tractor unit. Stick a dozer on it to build roads. Stick a crane on it to lift stuff. Stick a turret on it to shoot stuff. Stick a plough behind it to farm. Etc.
Im currently editing the baneblade video
Most Imperial vehicles are colonial transports someone stuck some guns on.
Yep, that was how the developers presented the 'Russ originally. It was an excavator (think Caterpillar --> Bob Semple tank), a design available in the STC-colony-startup pack. The reason it's still around, is that the real tanks were (supposedly) crammed full of forbidden technology (think AI) and hence unavailable. Also, the completely moronic ban on actual technological development prohibits the evolution of anything even remotely looking like a real tank.
As for the Baneblade-series tanks, it seems that the original patterns have gradually taken on a more gothic appearance. Just compare the current plastic kits to the first resin-kits made available by Forge-world (they are long-since discontinued). Those early designs looked high-tech and modern.
The Baneblade was, according to some source, the -don't laugh- _light scout tank_ of the Dark Age.
Which is stupid from many angles, but 40k.
funnily enough in the dark age, current Terminator power armor was "suitable for mining purposes and not rated for combat", makes you wonder bout the baneblade/leman russ tanks
I'm glad the Leman Russ has kept it's goofy proportions, especially since the Land Raider lost it's original shape. It reminds me that I'm playing with toy soldiers and to have fun with the game.
For the Emperor!
Big issue with the Russ is the rivets. Those things will sheer off and bounce around the crew compartment, even if the armour withstands the hit.
the imperium of man does not value human life
@@wafflestcattash4818 like does it even matter in Warhammer 40k? Shit always happen
They are blessed rivets.
Fortunately, "survival" is not a concept that the Astra Militarum cares about.
Honestly, I wouldn't be as concerned about that since many of the anti-armour weapons the Guard face off against are energy weapons. If you're an infantryman accompanying the tanks though.... then worry about it, because one really good ammo cook-off is going to turn that Russ into a clusterbomb.
I now want to see your take on the Baneblade and its downright absurd variants like the Stormhammer or the Stormlord, and of course, the Legiones Astartes superheavies like the Falchion, Glaive and Fellblade
I think you missed the salient point.
Yes
Why do they name tanks after melee weapons anyway?
In a way, I half expect one to actually be mounting one, but as far as I know, they don't.
@@leslieandrews9208 they have a commisar in the turret with a sword, and he wants you to drive him closer.
The size & make up of a Banenlade (even a standard one) depends entirely on who is writing the book. Sometimes it's a massive tank with 11 barrels of hell, other times it's a multi-story building sized behemoth with 36 barrels of Feth You.
Then on top of that there are the variants, because the Guard can't have a proper milti-role heavy/super-heavy tank. No, they have to have mostly specialist variants that are skewed to take on one or two types of enemy units.
One idea that a lot of settings forget about, but which the Leman Russ gets right is that, when designing a faction's go-to battle tank, it's much less likely to represent the best technology that the faction can produce; rather, it's more likely to represent the best technology that the faction can standardise. When you're waging war light years away from your mustering zones, you either need to bring all your spare parts with you, use a design compatible with whatever spare parts are produced in the area where you intend to wage war, or (preferably) both.
As an old tanker and a 40K fan, I appreciate this video. I'm sure it would be a bitch if a Russ were to throw a track
I think its much more likely that the russ would have its tracks destroyed than it slipping, atleast based on how the model goes together
The one thing that really bothers me about the Leman Russ is the top view, where the tank commander's hatch is positioned right above or just slightly behind where the breech of the main gun should be. The amount of faith that this would require in the Adeptus Mechanicus to ensure that the gun isn't going to recoil into the tank commander's groin would be significant, as well as the ergonomics of reloading the cannon with the tank commander in the way. Offsetting the commander's hatch to one side or the other would make more sense from a design perspective; unfortunately, with the design being functionally holy writ, there's essentially no chance that such a change would ever happen without some sort of divine revelation.
Chant the Linty of End Connectors. May your BII have still the grease gun in thy sponson box.
@@seanmalloy7249 lol. I wonder how many commanders have been cut off mid battle cry/speech when their tank fires the first shot and see their commander crumple over the front of the tank. Probably hearing a choked whimper through the Vox
@@seanmalloy7249 oh but I enjoy feeling the power between my legs... And yes what I would do is simply extend a shroud through the entire commanders deck, and he rides the thing like a pony.
I find it real interesting to see the take on scifi tanks from a real life perspective. Props on knowing all the 40k law and intertwining it well with real life physics/ideals.
40k is surprisingly good at the yeah close enough with the practically of most of the imperial tech other than scale
As a note the reason the Russ makes sense is a lot of the specs were originally conceived for the Imperial Armour books which came out in a period where GW were trying to make the setting a bit more grounded (comparatively it's still 40k) and the guy writing it basically lifted a lot of the specs from mordern MBT's (circa 2003) then added sci-finess as needed, although the speed was a lot lower then at 35kmph, (I think someone for their KMPH and MPH mixed up) part of me wishes they'd adapted a few of the stats to fit the vehicle you see like the main guns breach looking a lot bigger than 120mm, but given how GW usually goes getting something that makes sense lorewise as well as practically I'll take that win.
I do imagine if they put proper proportioned pieces on the models, painters everywhere might just finally say eff it lol.
@@atankersview As someone with a lot of Leman Russ's in various stages of construction and painting I can confirm this is correct 😀
You have to remember that Warhammer models are made to so called "heroic scale", where certian things like heads, hands and weapons are enlarged for better details. Some of this design choice is also affecting the vehicles.
In GW own words:
Leman Russ was a rolling deathtrap. Its tall profile was so notoriously awful that no commander ever wanted to be squadron leader - the only thing big enough to shield a Leman Russ during operations was another Leman Russ, so better to keep the command unit ahead of you for as long as you could. Its fragile tracks were exposed and its armour was a mess of easy-to-hit vertical planes. The standard pattern sponson-bulges just presented another flat edge to destroy, another reason to be glad not to have them. The interior was noisy and prone to bursting into flames whenever a loader coughed too loudly. And, if you were truly unlucky enough to have those sponsons, there was only one escape hatch, right at the top of the main turret, and so the chances of getting out alive in case of all-too-likely disaster were practically zero. No, whoever had designed the Leman Russ - Kaska had always assumed it wasn't actually the primarch of the VI - was a moron. Or a sadist. Or both. The only things it had going for it were cheapness, mechanical reliability and a certain rugged survivability in numbers. The design was so brutally simple that the Imperium was able to churn them out by the million. It mattered less that each individual unit was a study in self-harm when you could overwhelm a battlefield with hundreds of them. Still, all in all, the crews had few illusions about the tanks they rode into war. Deathboxes, they were called, and homewreckers, and other, earthier, names too
41st Millennium: "We have the Baneblade!"
BOLO Mk. XXXVIII: "That's cute."
My other channel is the only channel on youtube the covers bolos.
@@atankersview Ah, so as I suspected, you are a truly civilized Human Being then.😁
I think that just jumps to the next level of absurdity which are Titans
I just love how versed you are in 40K memes
One of the things to mention is how wildly different Leman Russ can be. One that is nailed together on a barely industrialized world is going to be very different to one that is produced by a Forge World. One of the main reasons why the tank is so popular is that it's easy to put together, easy to repair and will run on virtually everything from alcohol to coal.
Fun fact, according to some old lore it was in fact the wolves that named the tank as a bit of a playful insult to their primearch because it was small over gunned and just kinda derpy.
Liked hearing a real tanker's perspective on the Leman Russ. Could you look into the Demolisher MBT and others from BattleTech for a video? Not quite as insane as 40k but I would like to see someone cover the non-stompy-robot units of that universe.
Here's one tanker's opinion- most BattleTech tanks are damn silly too. The Manticore is a favorite of mine though.
"What the Imperium can do better...."!
How dare you, sir! This magnificent piece of technology was gifted to you from the hard working s̵l̵a̵v̵e̵s̵ labor core and holy priest of the adeptus mechanicum. To even think that something so perfect can be made better is tech heresy!
I have no choice but report you to the next commisar for s̵h̵o̵o̵t̵i̵n̵g̵ reeducation.
I would love to see the baneblade and malcadors analysis next, I feel as if those would be more entertaining to tear apart. On the hobby side, if you use a predator turret and the barrel from the imperial knight battle cannon, it reduces the profile and makes it look pretty cool. Also, the kromlech trench treads solve that squat profile look, making it again look a lot nicer.
This came up on my feed. You're right. Probably none of us are subscribed, but you know what, god damn it, this is the kind of content I'm here for. Subbed at 46 seconds in. Good luck on this trajectory my dude.
The Leman Russ Tank. The perfect example of what Warhammer 40k is, blunt, crude, ugly, yet very effective. Never underestimate the Leman Russ when they come in the numbers they do. The M4 Sherman of 40k, vast, variable weapons, easy for the Imperium to produce, and very reliable compared to its contemporaries. My personal favorite tank in 40k, inspite of all of its flaws. It takes the cool designs of the WW1 landships and brings them into the 41st, now 42nd, Millennium.
Loving these videos, and I'll stay to watch more than catch my eye. Also that GuP x 40k fanart thumbnail really caught my eye since I love both GuP and 40k.
E651 Titan, ~25 meters long and has a main gun that sends the tank a VERY noticeable distance backwards (or whatever direction is opposite to where the gun points, and I have yet to see someone actually tackle EDF's vehicles and their realistic practicality on youtube.
But aside from it's monstrously painful (in all aspects) main gun, that fires a round that travels so slowly, that the Tank itself can outpace it (once it stops sliding from the recoil), it has a Bow mounted Machinegun, and two secondary turrets ontop of the main one, that each contain a Smoothbore gun, and a Grenade Launcher or Missile Launcher.
EDF also have the Epsilon, Gigantus and Naegling for more traditional ground vehicles, Gigantus being the only notable one since it has a variant that packs a Laser, one that packs acid in place of normal ammo, normally it has a main gun in 105mm but can be mounted with guns up to 140mm,
and no MGs of any kind (unlike the Sceptrum III which has two MG turrets placed a bit under the main gun/above the tracks and one ontop of it), and the Blacker is more or less just a Gigantus with a different name, only differences, it can mount a grenade launcher instead of the main gun, and the smallest actual cannon/gun it has is a 90mm Smoothbore, and has no Laser alternate main gun.
Also EDF calls a lot of things (namely Tank cannons/guns) "Howitzers" when they aren't in the slightest.
The Russ would suck today, but it's an excellent design for the universe of 40k.
The shape of the tracks is ideal in a galaxy where trench warfare is the norm.
The side sponsons are a godsend if you're fighting an enemy that shows up in the hundreds of millions. Very common in 40k.
Given the number they shove out, it's likely very easy to train new crewmen on.
Excellent adaptability, you can fit it with many different weapons for different situations.
Overall, it fits in perfectly with the Astra Militarum's doctrine. Overwhelming firepower, shoved out of a forge-world in overwhelming numbers.
I dunno... It has more weapon coverage and angles than the modern tanks, plus dunno if its armor is stronger than what we use now... Plus these tanks can plow through buildings and not care... Plus from what I can tell... Easier assembly and not as many finely made parts.
check out "Hammer's Slammers" if you haven't already, tank design is pretty well thought out, and I'm pretty sure the author was a tanker himself.
He was in Vietnam, im familiar with his works. Been years since ive read them though
Leman Russ was a tractor originally. They adjusted the design by adding weapons
That was Siegfried. Leman Russ was purely a Battle Tank
I thought the land raider was originally a tractor. At least if i remember that line in master of mankind correctly
@@atankersview Land Raider was purely a Combat Vehicle. For Space Marines, it's essentially what M2 Bradley or BMP is to us
@@atankersview I could be wrong it's been a moment since I have read the book that explains it.
@@pixythegunner ah right my bad.
I'd take my chances in the trenches with a lasgun sooner than I'd be willing to crew a Leman Russ.
Sick video, looking forward to the Baneblade one, I'm sure you've gotten a ton of requests for other tank patterns too, and have no desire to become a "40k channel" but I am interested in hearing your thoughts on the Rogal Dorn, and Predator tanks. Figured I could throw it out there as an idea.
I'd love to hear his thoughts on the Dorn too. The first time I looked at that thing, I was like "Where the fuck does all the ammo go?" because there's 4-5 different kind of kinetic weapons systems to supply ammo for depending on variant of the tank. It's a quartermaster's nightmare. GW needs to learn that not everything needs to have heavy stubbers all over it. Laser weapons, especially multi-lasers, are okay too, and arguably make more sense.
@@wolfehoffmann2697 True. 40 rounds for the main cannon and then every other weapon being a laser would be far more effective and realistic to crew. As it stands the crew probably wraps the ammo around themselves.
"Have u try not to built it like shit?"
-guardsmen
juxtaposing yourself upon the face of the holy emperor is heresy Tanker.
Good job with the research and presentation. This is the first video of yours that I have seen.
Tanks a lot.
Cool video. Well done man. Merry Christmas. Legend
Jimmy's rightfully simmered, you may continue.
Who needs 100k state of the art high speed low drag fancy shmancy tanks when you can spam 1 billion gazillion meh tanks?
Also helps to remember some or maybe many of the Imperiums manufacturing worlds are stuck trying to get out of the medieval ages. You just have to look at all that riveted armor (most countries on Earth used welded armor by WW2) to realize it's really about what Humanity can make with limited advancement and indeed, purposely regressed advancement (probably no coincidence the Mechancius keeps a lid on all new tech being developed and retains their monopoly as infinitum)
@Dustin Jones there is little to no difference for the general layout design, what technology to use for bringing armor in the shape of tank: you can cast whole tank hull if your level of technological culture allows that (and you know what you are doing), you can weld together lists of afmour, you can fix them with rivets. In the end, it doesn't matter for the shape and doesn't explain in the slightest why "repurposed colonial buldozer chassis" (most of standard technological templates, Mechanicus tend to hunt, are NOT for military use - for example space marine terminator armour is the former civilian exosceleton-hazmat suit of the Dark age of Technology) uses the most inefficient for that purpose chassis base of British "marks". It is equally bad for a combat vehicle just as for civilian chassis.
I like that the thumbnail is a picture of a Leman Russ battle tank with the paintjob of Ooarai Girls Academy's Anglerfish Team's Panzer IV H and Miho Nishizumi in the commander's cupola.
Phew im not the only one
Subscribed, I was a tank mechanic in the army
I really like your style of presentation and sense of humor. This gives me an idea to do a similar thing with the big guns of 40k from the perspective of an artilleryman.
Giver hell and dont let anyone tell you no!
There's a meme out there somewhere, showing the hull of British Mk4 romboid, combined with the turret of Krupp's panzer 4 and the ML-20 howitzer from an SU or ISU-152. That's pretty much a Leman Russ.
You should do a review of some of BattleTech's many tanks! The Patton, Demolisher, Scorpion and Merkava instantly spring to mind
That and, of course, a tanker's view on vehicles such as Mass Effect's Mako, which is BasicallyAStryker
That and also cover maybe some BattleMechs too
I know people hate on the Mako but I honestly had a lot of fun playing in that thing. And I really appreciated the lore reasons for how weapons functioned in ME1, it's a shame they threw that out for the sequels. Like, we've solved the ammo problem of combat, now let's just bring it back.
The Mako is the answer to "What if we made a Styker that has jump jets and handles like a tipsy ballerina?"
Got to respect anything able to point twin ac20's at someone. That's enough to wipe many mechs out in a single salvo, though it only really counts in a city where the range isnt an issue. Which is why there are ppc carriers, i guess.
@@silvercat18 It's the Urbie, but heavier and significantly funnier. Though, that doesn't mean I'm not scared even in 3150 of two AC/20 shots outta one vehicle
so what ive gathered from all this is that its basically an abrams but with better armor no blow outs and twice as tall and fat but again much better armor plus has way more guns heavier secondaries and can be upgraded to better cannons and it can run on any fuel...so yeah the rus is the best of what you already love with the abrams and then some more
So long as the tech adept does his one fucking job correctly yes.
I’d like to see more of these, be it Imperium or Xeno design.
Trust the Space Wolves to find a tank that can run on booze.
With the multiple guns, the Imperial Guard is not concerned with collateral damage.
Bonus points for the Blood Angels hoodie.
Nice video! If you're doing more of these, please do the Merkava (latest mark) from real world and the Baneblade from 40K. Merkava always intrigued me because of the mortar. Thanks for doing what you do.
One thing I quite like about the Russ in-universe is the IoM *can* manufacture much fancier tanks (technologically speaking), but, due to how cheap/easy to manufacture they are, they’ll often just focus more on throwing out Leman Russes, given they also have no shortage of crews for them. Sure, you could make a crazy plasma-gun-equipped hover tank that moves at the speed of sound and needs several decades of crew training (plus said crew being heavily augmented), but for that price/opportunity cost you could just make several hundred Leman Russes.
It’s also why they give their basic infantry lasguns rather than any of the more advanced weapons they have access to- they’re much more feasible to give to an entire absurdly sized army, can be maintained by one person with minimal training, don’t need ammunition (instead having rechargeable batteries).
I mean, aside from being an ATGM magnet with no suspension and only 150mm of plastic/steel hybrid armor on its front. I'm sure it's a match for any MBT.
Jokes aside, great video. I was debating starting a video series like this, but I'm happy to see someone actually comit to it.
Rogal Dorn or Baneblade has to be next
The Strv74 was the result of merging the chassis of an outdated tank, the Strv m/42, with a completely redesigned turret. The large turret was necessary to fit the substantially larger and more potent main gun on the small tank chassis. The gun, too, was re-purposed, originally being a pre-ww2 anti-air cannon.
The Swedish armored brigades were gradually re-equipped after ww2 with a mix of different tanks. The most important one being the British Centurion. The Strv74 was a temporary solution that extended the service life of the Strv m/42 until it could, in turn, be replaced by the Strv103 (s-tank). The Strv74 ended it's career as a support asset for the infantry brigades, before having the turret and gun removed, for use in coastal fortifications and other strongpoints.
The Strv74 had some advantages over larger tanks, as it could drive between trees, or poke its gun over crests without exposing its hull. It would have been effective when used with care, though with a 75 mm gun and relatively weak armor, it wasn't meant to go toe-to-toe with MBTs like the T55 and later models. Also, it rocked considerably when firing to the 3 and 9 o'clock positions, though not as badly as sometimes claimed.
The Strv m/42 was a Swedish design, obviously predating the m48 Patton, and the Strv74 turret and gun were also Swedish designs.
Regarding the suspiciously absent crew commander gun. Said crew commander often has a sword, just need to get closer.
Loved the video @A Tankers View! Can't wait for the next video man! My Introduction to Warhammer 40K was Alongside my Introduction to @Rimmy Downunder's Channel a few years ago in the ArmA 3 Community. Even I was Laughing my Head off at all the Different Ways to Arm this Behemoth of a Tank. Truth be told though, I am a Simple Guy, if I see The Ladies of Girls und Panzer or anything from 40K.... I'm clicking Faster than a Trench Charge by the Death Korps of Krieg LMAO!
Love the video, can't wait to see more! I'd love to see deeper dive into comparisons to current/historical tanks. Especially on the flaws part, I think it'd be interesting to know why fantasy tanks would fail based off of results we know.
Aw the space equivalent of the ww2 comment wealth m3 grant tank.
In some editions, tanks have a scoot-and-shoot rule. If they race at top speed, they can't fire their big main gun. If they stand still, all the ludicrous little side sponsons and the driver's bow gun and the main gun and probably the commander's little pintle-mounted thing can shoot. The commander's stormbolter/heavy stubber is sometimes an extra option.
I remember 40k crews being larger. Not just in superheavy tanks where a dozen dudes can sit inside, but every sort of vehicle always seems to have one or two dudes extra. I guess the commander doubles as the radio man in this thing, and the driver operates the little driver's bolter up front.
Why 40k vehicles look the way they do sometimes comes down to how they could mold models back in the 80's. Everything has that stubby look to it. Models of troops, vehicles, space elfs, monsters, everything. The tanks too.
Space Marines ..?
THE GUARD IS HERE, FOR THE EMPEROR!
Today TH-cam was not terrible and recommended me a video and new channel that I actually liked. Subscribed, my dude.
But, you know what you have to do now, right? ...You have to do a video on the Baneblade. It's humanity's most iconic tank, a super-heavy behemoth relic from the Dark Age of Technology (despite a lot of people saying it was a scout/light tank in the DAoT, I've never actually seen that stated - the closest reasoning I can find is that Epic minis once called the Baneblade a "Medium"-sized model/tank). Not quite on the same level as a Bolo tank (...then again, what is?), but it's design in-universe is generally well-thought out (the variants have issues with the turrets not being able to transverse due to sponsons or secondary turrets being in the way, but that isn't an issue for the original Baneblade). And, ironically, it isn't even the heaviest tank humanity seriously considered even in our own reality - the Baneblade is a hefty monster at 316 tons... but... that's still only about 1/3 the weight of a Landkreuzer P.1000 Ratte.
Its on the list right after i do the merkava. The baneblade will up in about. 2- 2.5 weeks.
Your toaster joke got a chuckle from me. You got a new subscriber sir.
Kick ass. Well done, broski.
For The Emperor and Sanguinius!
Great video! If you are planning on making more videos on sci-fi tanks, I suggest the Type 61 Tank & HT-01B Magella Attack from Gundam's Universal Century Timeline.
Oh, these would be fun ones. Especially the M61/Type 61. The tank that was designed to fight under very advanced modern conditions, satellite uplinks, constant battlefield awareness, an incredible amount of automation that made it almost feasible for one man to both command the tank and serve as gunner and communications (Personally I still think the TC is overworked though.) but thanks to the Minovsky particle/waste radiation from Zeon's microfusion reactors and the destruction of the satellite network in orbit after Zeon captured half of the moon, was forced to fight under the same kind of conditions that a 1960s era tanker would expect to deal with. At least the laser range finder still worked, and the 155mm guns were still sufficient for punching most Zeon mobile suit armor, and they did fix the crew workload issue later in the war by adding a third crewman.
The Magella is an absurd design, but the Zeon did have other tank designs. A light airborne tank called the Magella Eins, and there's photos around of the another tank called an M1. I don't read Japanese so I don't know the name of it. But it's on the same general hull as the Magella, but it has a more reasonable sloped front and traditional turret arrangement with a missile launcher attached to the side. There seems to be a variant of it as well with a shorter main gun and coaxial machine-gun. I'll see if I can post photo links.
And there's the prototype Magella and another variant.
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An actual quote from a Leman Russ Tank commander, on the Leman Russ, from one of the Novels.
“The Leman Russ was a rolling deathtrap. Its tall profile was so notoriously awful that no commander ever wanted to be squadron leader - the only thing big enough to shield a Leman Russ during operations was another Leman Russ, so better to keep the command unit ahead of you for as long as you could. Its fragile tracks were exposed and its armour was a mess of easy-to-hit vertical planes. The standard pattern sponson-bulges just presented another flat edge to destroy, another reason to be glad not to have them. The interior was noisy and prone to bursting into flames whenever a loader coughed too loudly. And, if you were truly unlucky enough to have those sponsons, there was only one escape hatch, right at the top of the main turret, and so the chances of getting out alive in case of all-too-likely disaster were practically zero. No, whoever had designed the Leman Russ - Kaska had always assumed it wasn't actually the primarch of the VI - was a moron. Or a sadist. Or both. The only things it had going for it were cheapness, mechanical reliability and a certain rugged survivability in numbers. The design was so brutally simple that the Imperium was able to churn them out by the million. It mattered less that each individual unit was a study in self-harm when you could overwhelm a battlefield with hundreds of them. Still, all in all, the crews had few illusions about the tanks they rode into war. Deathboxes, they were called, and homewreckers, and other, earthier, names too”
Jimmy Space approves
Pretty much every tank in Warhammer 40,000 draws inspiration from the earliest and most primitive tanks.
"Nothing gets the algorithm off more than a 40k vid"
True, and it worked. It's been bugging me to watch this for almost a week and I've never seen your channel before. Well done dude! Now I'm off to watch your Abrams x video
The lack of hatches for the crew and tiny turret are serious issues that I'm surprised you didn't point out. As well as the bow gun, which we abandoned in the late 40s to early 50s, which introduces a weak point in the armor. Also, sponson guns were never good.
1:50
Hitting the nail on the head. 40k tanks are built for real-life model production first (it's interesting to see what design innovations they come up with when needing to design plastic toy kits), style second, and realism basically not at all. And that's what we love about it
That was a good vid. Keep them coming.
The very idea that in the 41 millennium they are still using riveted hull construction, just demonstrates how technically FUBAR a lot of the tech is at its core.
the Strv74 is based on the frame of the Stridsvagn m/42 (the 42 standing for the year of aproved for production) so if somebody is based on somebody it would be the patton based of the Strv xD
I think you should do a video on Titanfall's Titans (both gen 1 and/or 2) from the perspective of them as Infantry support platforms in the same vein as the US Army's new MPF vehicle.
5:08 Because that was exactly what the original modeler of the Leman Russ did back in the 1980's.
IIRC the Leman Russ's STC was originally a tractor that the Admech modified.
If you wonder why the Leman Russ is designed so badly, it's because originally it was designed as a farming vehicle which colonists on planets converted into a weapon to fight off innumerable invasions from the many threats in the galaxy
Impressive review on Leman Russ tank! Astra Militarum vehicles are weirdly proportioned and also aesthetic at the same time.
Me loves tanks . Only find your channel due to 40k in title haha
One of the things i love about the imperium in 40k is the insane sane diversity of style of technology when it comes to weapons and warmachines. Leman russ as mentioned looks like a mix of ww1/ww2 era tanks, but made with magic sifi materials, all the way to fancy hover tanks with laser weapons that can be dropped from orbit and just use the anti grav propulsion to control their decent. (Repulsors)
And then you have everything in between
I came across these videos a year late, but it appears to me that some of the earlier Warhammer tanks were designed after the british Mark I tank, invented 1915.
The male, female and herm variants of the tank up to Mark V had the exposed upper treads and sponsons fitted to the sides.
The sponsons had to be removed for transport because they were too wide to be sent by train.
Even the interior was similar to a command centre in that the entrance and exits to the tank were from the backside of the sponsons (on the Mark I at least)
They could fit 7 people at peak operational capacity, etc.
Considering that Games Workshop is a british company, it would not surprise me if they looked at various british and german tank designs and combined whatever looked cool.
Cool video. Some of the editing is off with text being blocked by your body, but this was pretty informative and interesting.
I subbed and am looking forward to watching your other stuff.
"They're plastic toys for Pete's sake." Gave me a chuckle. 😁
You are right about the algorithm liking 40k.
fun fact, it was the space wolves who found the blueprint for the leman russ tank. They named it after their primarch as a joke at his expense.
One thing I do like about the Leman Russ is the diversity of weapon options. We've designed our tanks to fight other tanks and modern human armies. Something like an Abrams would be a lot less effective against many xenos threats the galaxy throws at the Imperium. If you're fighting Orks or Tyranids, those sponsons suddenly become a lot more attractive. Manufacturing dozens of different variants makes the logistics harder, but increases the chance of having the right tool for the right job when you don't know who you're fighting next.
The absurd Imperial regimental system (only being tanks, infantry, artillery etc) also forces the Leman Russ to attempt to fill more battlefield roles. A real possibility is that a commander might only have tank regiments on hand to fight a war with. If you don't have infantry support, you'd best hope you have a few Punisher variants on hand, and those sponsons at least give some coverage on the flanks.
Although if our real world had to face a similar diversity of threats we'd probably just make a modular MBT that we could add different turrets and armour types to. Which is essentially what the Eldar and T'au empire does with their Falcon and Devilfish chassis. And seeing as we believe in combined arms over hamstringing our own army due to political failures, no tank design would ever need to be quite as crazy as a Leman Russ.
Aside from the one with the nova cannon my fave variant is the bombard, a russ chassis with a with a big ole howitzer mounted inside.
As a former U.S. Army turret mechanic, I agree with you.
The Leman Russ is to "tall" but otherwise not a bad tank; and would destroy ANYTHING in WW1, maybe even WW2.
Only 40k tech would let it beat an M1A2 Abrahams.
I would rather be in an Adeptus Astartes "Predator"
That's more like a modern tank.
However, I would prefer being in an M1A2 Abrahams over almost anything in 40k.
Ohhh, ohhhh! Okay three guesses of the Space Wolves Primarch.
Was it Phillip C. Preslington?
The worst part of the Leman Russ is the main gun recoiling into the commanders crutch.
6:50 the crew commander gun is often substituted with a chainsword.
Would love to see follow-up video on Rogal Dorn tank, mainly with the idea of "is it upgrade over Leman Russ" in practical sense? Where it's better, where it makes no sense and even is it worse in some way?
As soon as the models released im going to do a follow up
Well, guess next either Chimera or Rogal Dorn battletank
great video!! I hope your channel continues to grow! 👍👍
Memory serves, the first Russ tabletop models were actually kitbashed from a mk4 chassis and a panzer... 3 or 4 turret, don't recall which right now
To my understanding, Leman Russ Vanquisher is the closest equivalent to main battle tanks of Leman Russ variants. Vanquisher cannon is practically an anti-tank gun. Battle cannon is closer to an infantry gun or a howitzer on tank turret. Compare with Sherman tank guns 17-pounder (76,2 mm) and howitzer M4 (105 mm). Even without a blast radius, Vanquisher can be armed with plenty of dakka. That gives it versatility enough to give a finger at near anything that may come to cross its path.
Some of the design and development crew of 40k were known to friends of mine who even helped with early playtests (a LOT of alcohol and Hawkwind was involved if you catch my drift). They were heavily into inter war and ww2 vehicles, the Jankier the better. TOG, Char 2C, Char B, the multi turreted monsters like the T-35. You can see the lineage in the visual design.
Kind of "fluff" bits, but another thing fun to consider about the height of the russ', I believe this has actually been said at some point in the lore to be intentional, because the russ' was meant to be, and is, the absolutely massed produced general purpose tank meant to fight against whatever threat, but more importantly, with whatever imperium forces any battle calls for, key point here, space marines. The russ' is tall enough the main cannons can fire over space marines that will of course be fighting in front of them, this is why actually nearly every frontline combat vehicle of the imperium, from tanks, to transports, to even the smallest imperial guard walkers like sentinels are all quite tall, they're meant to be able to fire over everything from the swarms of guardsman, to towering space marines, wreckage of enemy vehicles, destroyed piles of structures, whatever it may be. In a funny way this actually makes the russ' quite tactical in its proportions and design, funny as that is lol.
Excellent point. I hadn't considered that.
@@atankersview Yup! Even though a fan vid, you actually see the practicality shown in the SODAZ Krieg vid you had in the background playing in this vid! The Russ' in that were more than tall enough to easily fire over the Dark Angel's that were with them, who were of course fighting in front of the tanks exactly like they do in lore. Even more than that, the side sponson heavy bolters are even high enough up to fire over the head of the standard guardsman, nearly enough to fire over the Dark Angel that was fighting next to one of the sponsons in one of the scenes. That's what the Russ is designed to do, just pure simple get the job done and easy to mass produce. You can fight with those things, around them, next to them, under them, whatever you want, the Russ don't give a damn either way lol, it is unleashing its firepower on the enemies of the emperor without issue in any case!
It's one of the funny things about the imperium when it comes to their aesthetics. Yeah they have the whole neo gothic / WW1 imperial industrial aesthetic for most things, but, when you really dive head first into the endless abyss that is the lore, but in a funny way counting in the technological regression, imperial equipment tends to be actually pretty well practical in just a raw "just get the job done" kind of sense. Hell, look at the humble lasgun, those things you can literally recharge the mags by just throwing the things into a campfire and leaving them there overnight, hard to get more practical than all you need is some kind of fire to recharge your ammo and keep fighting LOL.
That's the great thing about 40k, no matter how crazy, completely over the top and way over the edge it is, in its own very funny way it still all kinda goes together and makes sense lol, that's what makes it so fun!
I had someone criticize the various tanks/APCs from 40k a while back with the old "the sponsons are ridiculous, nobody uses them anymore." To which I had to inform him that a contemporary MBT wouldn't fair well against most of the Imperiums enemies because they don't have enough guns. Just going down the list, most of Mankind's enemies either have human (or worse) wave tactics of things that could shrug off a few .50s, or utilize more modern skirmish style infantry with space ninja magic that stand a decent chance of dodging a well aimed burst, or have fancy sci-fi protections. Or any combination therein. So you kinda have to rely on volume of fire either way. It's interwar American tank design writ large. More machine guns = more better. It's also cool in that inner child way.
It would look more menacing if they scaled it out better. A slightly less than full sized Mk IV hull with a slightly larger than full size modern(ish) Nato style(ish) turret. Be a pig of a model to move around the table, so I get why they proportioned it oddly for the original wargame.
"They're plastic toys"
Or tin, if you've been into it long enough. ^^
Also resin if you have a big enough wallet.
Thanks for the Vid man! Have a happy New Years!
And all that info from you and in the end my tanks still kill stuff on the table top.
I like to keep my jimmies at a good simmering 6 out of 10 thank you very much
Nice blood angel hoody. Preditor variant for chapter verse regular preditor would be interesting.