I'd be curious to see the Intake air temp in the manifold vs the incoming air temp vs fuel temp. Latent heat of evaporation is widely discussed, but I'd love to see it documented. Might affect the MAD. Fuel temp would also be relevant in that calculation I would think.
Banks Power: *haha, look at this 1$ '66 Chevy POS we are tinkering with* Me, from eastern Canada, knowing fair well that truck would probably sell for 25 grand here: *CRIES PROFUSELY*
Heat riser crossover. It helps heat the manifold so it vaporizes better when it’s -25 outside (Canada). If you take it out the choke is on forever. An engine here lasted 80,000 miles.
After a moment of silence for glorious survivor - I wait for the good stuff to come. My suggestion would on the order of a resto-mod, more or less original looks, with all the modern goodies like suspension, brakes, AC, nicely appointed cab etc. a bow to its heritage means it should still be a good tow vehicle. The 66 Chevy pickup was my all time favorite. At one I was going to buy a new one, but got married instead, I know hard to believe!
Making a Data Monster work on a truck from 1966 is really cool! Makes me want an iDash DataMonster even more, unfortunately none of the OBD signal protocols pre-2008 are supported. This thing would be great to replace the ScanGaugeII I'm currently using in my SAE J1850 VPW protocol vehicles. I would definitely add an analog module to gather more data.
I feel like i had something to do with inspiring this project. By calling Banks 8 months ago and asking if the Idash Data Monster would work on an analog setup. That is about as analog as it gets. 😂
Haha yeah works for banks power and there’s harbor freight tools in their toolbox.... hmmmm makes one wonder.. Leaking gas after using torch where they shouldn’t have.... hmmm makes one wonder. Useful idiots at best.
Correct me if I'm too far away, but if you are gathering all of this data to measure the efficiency of the engine and intake system, does this ,mean you are going to do some upgrades whilst retaining the current engine? I mean intake density, coolant temp and EGT are hardly going to be comparable to a turbo diesel or something.
Great question. EGT is not part of the MAD equation. We simply wanted to keep an eye on EGT so we didn't burn up the engine during the dyno run. Also was also an opportunity to show off more of the iDash's feature set.
It's a sister engine to Jay Leno's Tank Car engine. When Gale helped Jay build his tank car, he bought a second unit for R&D. That way Gale didn't have to drive up to Jay's shop every day. You'll find more on the engine AV 1790 V12 here. official.bankspower.com/insider_news/turbocharging-jay-lenos-tank-car-episode-4/
It's a sister engine to Jay Leno's Tank Car engine. When Gale helped Jay build his tank car, he bought a second unit for R&D. That way Gale didn't have to drive up to Jay's shop every day. You'll find more on the engine AV 1790 V12 here. official.bankspower.com/insider_news/turbocharging-jay-lenos-tank-car-episode-4/
@@Ali-bz9gd Thanks, Ali. But please note, this series is different for us. It's designed to bridge the gap between Gale's long-form-deep-data-dive videos, which only come along every couple of weeks. This series is more "snackable".
Well, it will be interesting to see what upgrades you will do. Please don't do hi tech upgrades to it keep it simple for us old coots to keep up with, okay???
We simply wanted to keep an eye on EGT so we didn't burn up the engine during the dyno run. Also was also an opportunity to show off more of the iDash's feature set.
Banks Power it doesn’t look like it comes with the 4-5 channel cable +$359 +sensors whatever they cost and the non-obd like shown in this video is $419 so I’m looking at $1400 to get into a setup like that
Well, the coolant temp on the dashboard is interpreted and MANIPULATED by the ECU! Car makers learned long ago to NOT give very quick or very precise readings to drivers. The ECU does know the real actual values, but does not convey that info and simply follow the manufacturer’s algorithms. Reasons should be as obvious as knowing this much.
![กี่หมื่นฟ้า | Your Sky Series EP.1 [2/4]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qJbQs_nhjD4/mqdefault.jpg)
BANKS BUILT official partners and equipment list
bnks.pw/lokjaw
Oh hell yeah, totally watching this RIGHT NOW 😎🔥🇺🇸
Oh no they've given the engineers tools
I'd be curious to see the Intake air temp in the manifold vs the incoming air temp vs fuel temp. Latent heat of evaporation is widely discussed, but I'd love to see it documented. Might affect the MAD. Fuel temp would also be relevant in that calculation I would think.
Banks Power: *haha, look at this 1$ '66 Chevy POS we are tinkering with*
Me, from eastern Canada, knowing fair well that truck would probably sell for 25 grand here: *CRIES PROFUSELY*
I got a 66 C-20 i might part with for those prices, where can I find your local listings for examples?
He said eastern Canada so go to kijiji.ca and put your search area to a city in ontario and do like 500km radius
Dude even in the states that thing would catch 25 grand in the rust belt
Mt
That's literally the first factory exhaust thermostatic valve that I've seen still operate
Looking forward to next episode
Heat riser crossover. It helps heat the manifold so it vaporizes better when it’s -25 outside (Canada). If you take it out the choke is on forever. An engine here lasted 80,000 miles.
Kool as a fan Banks is the truth when it comes to precision!!
Can we have a walk through of that engine room?
This was a fun episode
Very cool to see this tech applied to something a little closer too what I typically have the pleasure of wrenching on 😂
That crescent wrench was the right tool for engineers 🧑💻
I want you to lie to me and tell me it's awesome. Sounds like my last relationship. 😆
I'm all in on this project, but you installed and EGT, but no O2 Sensor? Seems like that may be more relvant. Anyway, can't wait for the next one
Yes, I want the O2 sensor too! Let’s see how well that motor is being fueled.
The O2 sensor is part of our chassis dyno setup so we didn't need to install one. You'll see it in the next episode.
I love mr. Banks I love his knowledge
Someone get a stool for the short talking head.
We're going to buy him a pair of boots with thick soles.
After a moment of silence for glorious survivor - I wait for the good stuff to come. My suggestion would on the order of a resto-mod, more or less original looks, with all the modern goodies like suspension, brakes, AC, nicely appointed cab etc. a bow to its heritage means it should still be a good tow vehicle.
The 66 Chevy pickup was my all time favorite. At one I was going to buy a new one, but got married instead, I know hard to believe!
You should buy a used Colorado that has the small Duramax motor in it in put that in that truck it would be epic
Yeah that or the new 3.0 straight-six.
looks like the "new" Banks dyno mule! yes build it, put your Duramax, an allison with a Dana 60 rear then beat the snot out of it!!
Watching, taking notes.
1990 D350 12V. Need "data acquisition for clunkers"
Making a Data Monster work on a truck from 1966 is really cool! Makes me want an iDash DataMonster even more, unfortunately none of the OBD signal protocols pre-2008 are supported. This thing would be great to replace the ScanGaugeII I'm currently using in my SAE J1850 VPW protocol vehicles. I would definitely add an analog module to gather more data.
wow super cool brings a tech son to old school dad both injoy the out come 👌👍 sweet really cool to watch
Hi guys!
Would love a to see a list of the ”kit” used here and price on that all that stuff if possible.
Cheers /Dan
I feel like i had something to do with inspiring this project. By calling Banks 8 months ago and asking if the Idash Data Monster would work on an analog setup. That is about as analog as it gets. 😂
Bucky the Trucky is back 🤣😜🤗
Doing roadkill better than roadkill
That idash is awesome but damn it gets pricy fast !
Pretty sure the exhaust manifold had air injection plugs that would of made the egt easy
Nice job
Is Banks working on anything for the 7.3 godzilla motors? I noticed the Ford superduty in the background and by the look of the exhaust they are gas.
Actually, both of the Super Duties in the background are diesel trucks. We have not done any testing with the 7.3L.
Thank you
Kool Beans 👍
Yo this is what happens when diesel guys try to build a small block
Eh, not quite.
Haha yeah works for banks power and there’s harbor freight tools in their toolbox.... hmmmm makes one wonder..
Leaking gas after using torch where they shouldn’t have.... hmmm makes one wonder.
Useful idiots at best.
Correct me if I'm too far away, but if you are gathering all of this data to measure the efficiency of the engine and intake system, does this ,mean you are going to do some upgrades whilst retaining the current engine? I mean intake density, coolant temp and EGT are hardly going to be comparable to a turbo diesel or something.
Is EGT required for MAD calculation? Can't think of how/why that parameter would be needed for MAD.
Great question. EGT is not part of the MAD equation. We simply wanted to keep an eye on EGT so we didn't burn up the engine during the dyno run. Also was also an opportunity to show off more of the iDash's feature set.
LY6, single turbo, 4L80E, kill it!
Don't you need the temperature in the manifold? There is going to be a significant temperature drop across the carburetor...
No, we didn't really need EGT when all was said and done.
@@bankspower Ah, I should of been more clear. I meant for the intake air density. Thanks
Where's Gale going with this? I think 50% chance it gets a Duramax, 30% chance it gets a twin-turbo, and 20% chance of something really weird.
Would have made less mess just pulling the plug & quick popping in the coolant sensor..
We tried. Coolant started gushed out like a geyser.
@@bankspower lol
What’s that engine that’s casually sitting there at 1:00? It’s huge
Right!? I saw that monster too, do you think it’s for a boat?
@@tbthedozer zero clue. First glance I thought industrial vehicle like bulldozer. Maybe a big boat or something
Looks like a Continental AV1790. A tank engine from the 50's
It's a sister engine to Jay Leno's Tank Car engine. When Gale helped Jay build his tank car, he bought a second unit for R&D. That way Gale didn't have to drive up to Jay's shop every day. You'll find more on the engine AV 1790 V12 here. official.bankspower.com/insider_news/turbocharging-jay-lenos-tank-car-episode-4/
When you guys are finished with the project I would gladly buy it from you for $ 5.00
oil change first would have been a good idea???
Is that a V12 at the 60 second mark?
Wonder what that came out of and what they are going to do with it.
It's a sister engine to Jay Leno's Tank Car engine. When Gale helped Jay build his tank car, he bought a second unit for R&D. That way Gale didn't have to drive up to Jay's shop every day. You'll find more on the engine AV 1790 V12 here. official.bankspower.com/insider_news/turbocharging-jay-lenos-tank-car-episode-4/
What’s that V12 in the background?
That would be a WWII era Sherman M4 tank engine.
@@bankspower let’s get that in the dyno room!
@@bankspower Is that a leftover from Jay Leno's tank car?
@@aaronsmith4746 It's the sister engine. When Gale assisted Jay with the engine build, Gale bought an identical one for R&D.
Oh, speed holes. Make the car go faster 👌
So much speed, the power.
More more more !!!
i'm thinking show us the proper way to do compound turbos on an l5p
Exactly! Chances are 95% people will LS swap that truck in a NY minute. Show us the relevant stuff bruh...
I sense a twin turbo in your near future.
I want one of these units
I guess a dynamic pull of 96 hp.
No wideband?
The O2 sensor is part of our chassis dyno setup so we didn't need to install one. You'll see it in the next episode.
Guesses on power. Go!
I guess 150
115
87
turns out it was 169.6
What happen to the killing a Duramax series ?
Please put a duramax in that thing
🤔truckshow podcast 🤔
Not a fan of discovery channel style of filming.
Hang in there. The format will change as the guys find their footing.
@@bankspower will do that, not for the director no, for gale's style of full information videos
@@Ali-bz9gd Thanks, Ali. But please note, this series is different for us. It's designed to bridge the gap between Gale's long-form-deep-data-dive videos, which only come along every couple of weeks. This series is more "snackable".
@@bankspower i agree with you on that, all i need is to loss xzibit style of pimp my gals banks rides.
If this is a giveaway truck please post a link to get tickets. And please make it auto and with handcontrols please
We don't do give-away trucks.
@@bankspower cool besides a Hurst this would be my dream ride
Well, it will be interesting to see what upgrades you will do. Please don't do hi tech upgrades to it keep it simple for us old coots to keep up with, okay???
185hp 260 tq is my guess.
Why no O2 sensor?
The O2 sensor is part of our chassis dyno setup so we didn't need to install one. You'll see it in the next episode.
👍
Why an EGT sensor instead of an oxygen sensor?
And only on one side... no oil pressure, oil temperature and ignition timing..
We simply wanted to keep an eye on EGT so we didn't burn up the engine during the dyno run. Also was also an opportunity to show off more of the iDash's feature set.
mid engine , awd and a duramax!!!
Change this format , I love the idea of this series but this is just like those terrible shows on power block
Richard, please hang in there. You'll find the format changes as the guys find their footing.
Who’s guessing the horsepower?
Sell a lot more of them gauges if you priced them to a more reasonable price
$279 for the iDash Super Gauge is insanely low for the amount of data it will display. It'll display hundreds of parameters, many patented!
@@bankspower Got to say, that is a bargain.
You know what they said about iStuff... it's gonna cost you some iMoney! some iDiots willing to pay tho
Dude what? You can buy a single normal, good quality gauge for $50 to+$100. This one does ALL the gauges. How is that not reasonable?
Banks Power it doesn’t look like it comes with the 4-5 channel cable +$359 +sensors whatever they cost and the non-obd like shown in this video is $419 so I’m looking at $1400 to get into a setup like that
Let me gusee l5p swap
Well, the coolant temp on the dashboard is interpreted and MANIPULATED by the ECU!
Car makers learned long ago to NOT give very quick or very precise readings to drivers. The ECU does know the real actual values, but does not convey that info and simply follow the manufacturer’s algorithms.
Reasons should be as obvious as knowing this much.
First
Third!
Lose the annoying bobblehead host let the engineer do the talking
Give the guys time to adjust, they are finding their footing.
It's good to have more content
It’s time to restore this POS not showing how rusty it remains. Come on, move on. 😟😟😟
Hang in there. You may see a curveball or two.
wow!this is bad. please do not continue this project
The 2 useful idiots in this video are worse than the truck.