The magnets work because as the anvil vibrates, the magnet has to accelerate towards the anvil since it isn't physically bonded, this lag is out of phase with the vibration so it has the effect of dampening it.
Looks like you have a nicely appointed shop. A much simpler way to "deaden" an anvil is to attach a ring (2- 3") to a spring from a "bangety bang" screen door, and attach the other end of the spring, to the base of the anvil block. Then just slip the ring over the horn of the anvil. If you need to use the horn for a particular operation, then just slide off the ring. This kept my anvil quiet for more than 20 years.
@@BlackBearForge Do you happen to be familiar with sand underground for anvil or a sheet (2-3 mm, guess that's about 1/10 inch thick) of lead between the block and the anvil to reduce clinging noise? Anyhow mounting it on silicone seems to work awesome too, and with the extra metal clamps it will probably hold.
Excellent way to lock down an anvil! What you did would be considered "tornado-proofing" your anvil here in Mississippi. Th' shop might be gone, but the anvil didn't budge.
Reminds me of one of the smiths north of here after flooding a few years ago. A friend was helping to clean up scooping mud out with a skid loader. The loader came to an abrupt stop, he had found the 400 pound anvil.
TH-cam, the place where I can learn to lock pick, blacksmith, cook, probably make lock picks, make it through prison, beat a game, learn about games, watch games, and do things with just my bare hands.
Awesome ! My anvil rings my hearing aids so much that I have to cut them off when using it - this system you developed should be the perfect answer to my problem . THANKS !!!
Whoa, that worked way better than I would have expected. Damn, the difference is amazing. The anvil is practically silent compared to the ring it had before!
hey mate i wanted to say thank you so much i spent 3 weeks straight trying to change my mic and audio to stop the shattering anvil ring. it never ever occurred to me to fix (or that you even could) fix the anvil. thank you so so so much
@@Anon_Omis some people describe my voice as frog like shrill and my face as a bad face to beard ratio. I do have the best windows media player trasitions money didnt buy tho. People love them dont they?
Growing up the grandfather's were still alive & well. I would be included in any trip to another tradesman's shop. I clearly remember grandda giving any anvil he walked by a firm but gentle slap to listen to the bell ring. Although the opportunity is not very common; I walk in their shoes and will give an anvil a spank. It surprises me how many people who own an anvil don't know about the bell inside of it. Thank you for allowing us to visit with you at your shop.
I miss blacksmithing... As a child i was often at my godfather. He is art smith and makes realy cool things out of metal. Most of the time i made small items such as nails or small animals (a snail is realy easy, great for beginners). There was a history festival one time while i was visiting him and we where showing kids how small and easy things are made (again small animals, small metal smiley for the key and such things). That was great because that was exactly what i used to make and i had a great time while making everyone exactly what they wanted :D Good old times... I wish there where a bigger market for blacksmithing here in germany. I would love to work as one but you cant life from what you get paid because not many people want something handmade anymore. I like this channel, i will stay a while and listen ;)
My Grandpas anvil was mounted on leather to a tree stump buried in his shop floor. He had home made U clamps at angles that crisscrossed and fit into notches in the stump. It had a dull thumpy ring to it but didn't hurt your ears even after hours of use. Good vid, try the leather
As a longtime 'maker' and 'handy' type, but blacksmithing noob, I always learn so many additional little tricks from your videos, like for example those simple but cool custom-made clamps, and your general overall 'approach'... plus you're also a great teacher, thx!
Hey Black bear. Use leather friend. It helps drastically and also looks good. Best place to wrap it would be around the neck of the anvil. Also, the ring helps with metal working anyhow. Take care and keep up the craft. Hopefully you can pass your craft off to a grand kid or child. These are crafts that need to always exist. I personally have been working with extracting iron from what most would just a call a rock. Cool stuff.
Enjoyed that. Just bought my first anvil at 54 off a retired craftsman. It came on a big solid oak block of wood. I noticed that was bolted down onto the wood with plasticine underneath it. Now I know why. The anvil is pretty quiet tbh. It obviously works.
Hi John! I just wanted to tell you how much this video helped me! I just started blacksmithing a short time ago and have a small piece of railroad track for an anvil. The first time I struck it, the sound was so loud, high pitched, and piercing that dogs 2 blocks away started barking. It was absolutely not going to work. But, a little silicone and strapped it down tight with some pipe strap and now it sings much more beautifully. Thanks for the video! It really helped.
I like your style!! I did nothing more than to make clamps to secure my hay budden to the block. It is solid and quiet. Other anvils have a rubber mat or chain wrapped waist with forged nails to secure in place. The clamps perform best. They serve to hold secure and quiets the ring to a thwack!
Another suggestion for those who are on a budget. You can go to either a scrap yard or local tire shop and get you an old tire, and cut out the tread section. Lay them flat on your stump. Then secure your anvil on top. That too will help quieten down your anvil as well. My Grandpa Smith have done it many of time. Oh how it works wonders.
This was in my recommended box because I watched a music video with the band Anvil, and I don't regret clicking on it. You're doing good work, algorithm.
Thank you for this. I finally got around to doing some of this and it made a world of a difference my neighbors are probably just as grateful for you than I am now. ❤
Thank you for explaining how to get Mt anvil quiet. It's about a 180 pounder. Curved horn, with a hardy and Pritchett. I think my grand father bought it around 1914.
Spent many an hour listening to my dad’s anvil and my brother’s when they were shoeing horses and making things. I liked the ring then and I like it now.
WoW! John, That really did the trick. I built a stand for my new to me 300lb Henery Wright last week and set it on a piece of belting. It helped but your clamp system is next. Thanks
My 308lb Soderfors rings loud I'm using a big tow chain and it helps a lot. That's the same way i put mine on the stump with a 2x8 ramp. I think I'm going to mount mine this way. Great idea.👍
That animal is strong as an OX !! He has been lifting and moving heavy stuff since he was in pampers i bet ! LOL He dont need help with that little steel toy ....
There are thin sheets of elastomer vibration damping material available. Some have adhesive on one side. These sheets are very thin, and don’t look like they will do much, but they do. They’re also cheap. The aluminum 2 x 4 foot version from McMasterCarr, is about $30. I haven’t tried it on an anvil, but putting it on the bottom surfaces of the horn and rear, could help a lot.
thumbs up for you john! another instructive video. I will do the same thing as soon as I can get a real anvil. I got a notebook to take note and wear my safety glasses! lol hello from Belgium
When your welding magnets get completely wrecked with that iron dust, a lit oxy acetylene torch works well. Hammer the oxygen thumb valve wide open like you are about to start cutting. It blows and burns the fuzz right off the magnets without heating them up too badly at all. Old millwright trick.
Silicone was one of the most important parts of this build! If there is air between the anvil and the stand, the sound is going to bounce from the wood back to the anvil and make more noise. Now that the whole anvil block is solid, the sound will move trough the block 3 meters to the ground and make noise there and it wont bother anybody! Great job and looks really clean too!
Finally YT sent me to a type of channel I actually like, when I was 13 I experienced Blacksmithing for the first time and I've wanted my own forge and anvil ever since! Cool video especially how you figured out how to move the anvil by hand haha, I would've used an motor crane!
I dont own an anvil
I've never done any smithing
Shit I've never even seen an anvil in person
And yet here I am
Thanks youtube
EZ Darren Robson not seeing an anvil in person is so true lmao
yup lmao
EZ Darren Robson same
Not even in minecraft?
@@seongho37 😂
And now he can finally get his sharpness 5 he's been wanting to
Now he can enchant his bow with *silencer III*
He can now finally name his horse "Dinnerbone"
He can finally name his watersheep "Jeb_"
He can finally enchant to mending V
Oh no here they come!! Fellow minecrafters!! Rruuuunnnn before it's too late!
lets see what the youtube algorithm has pulled out today
not bad
Its your lucky day
@@BlackBearForge You, sir, just earned a subscribe. Love the accent and love smithing vids.
I agree
Nice profile pic and name, very good!
@@aleksanderlenartowicz5659 what accent?
Never had an interest in smithing.... EVER.
But for some reason. I have to watch the whole thing. I need to witness this man defeat the noisy anvil.
Proud Boyz ikr I literally watched the whole thing
Yep watched the whole thing, was not disappointed
19:30
Tutorial HQ ?
Top 10 anime boss battles
Not sure how I got here but now I want an anvil
same, how much do they cost though?
Around 500 for one that size
@@mdmdnndndn4824 huh, surprisingly not as much as I thought one would be.
Try a grand.
@@StormWidgeon that seems more reasonable lol
Thanks youtube
Now I can finally kill the road-runner with my new stealth anvil
Meep meep
@@gregoryashton I'm operating under the assumption that it muffles the slide whistle as it's falling
Yes
Meep Meep Very good.
Meep meep?
My jaw dropped to the floor when I heard the difference, it's time to update my anvil stand. Great video.
Mr4nt0ni0 dude!!!! My reaction EXACTLY!! My anvil sucks with the sound and I did this after i saw it and boom NOTHING....
@@hardknocktacticsllc2935 wait....yall actually got an anvil
@@uraverageskeleton6480 fr that's what I'm thinking
@@SAMMYTIME11 CREEPER
Sᴋᴇʟᴇᴛᴏʀ The boy awwwww man
I grew up without a grandfather, but I would imagine the perfect grandpa would sound a little like you.
same but in spanish
same here :)
I thought I watching my dad. But he don't blacksmith.....that I know of
I know next to nothing about blacksmithing but this really cool to witness.
yeah I have no idea why this was recommended to me but I know someone who may appreciate this.
Same.
QuinnSucksAtVideogames I was literally just watching fortnite and I somehow got here?
@@CausingChaos. dead game
It’s amazing how this guy knows his main audience are smiths, and his outro is the best outro i’ve seen in a while
Obviously his main audience are smiths 😂
It's amazing how gamers know that their main audiences are gamers
I think I've found Jamie hyneman's dad
His Dad was a Walrus.
tbh
Why is this too accurate
The magnets work because as the anvil vibrates, the magnet has to accelerate towards the anvil since it isn't physically bonded, this lag is out of phase with the vibration so it has the effect of dampening it.
isn't it crazy how magnets work?
@@ototo4508 its magic
Thanks dad.
@@SilvaaFabio you make a joke like that then upvote your own post?
SCIENCE!
I not even a blacksmith this was on my recommend. Very educational.
It was also on my recommend.
Mads Larsen Same here. Been watching wood turning and 3D printing videos.
Subscribed. Holy cow that was impressive to listen to the difference! 2:00 - 18:53
Thanks for the timestamp PAPA
You da best!!!
Lol kinda sounds the sane
Anthony Guzman you are deaf
Lol it sounds the same
Honestly you are the Bob Ross of blacksmithing! I realy enjoy wathcing you work!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Next we'll be forging happy little clouds, or something like that
Happy little scroll
Maybe he should say something like "And remember my friends, Anvils are our friends" at then end of each video!
That is funny and true Hartsock Thompson
@@BlackBearForge
That's a good one
Looks like you have a nicely appointed shop. A much simpler way to "deaden" an anvil is to attach a ring (2- 3") to a spring from a "bangety bang" screen door, and attach the other end of the spring, to the base of the anvil block. Then just slip the ring over the horn of the anvil. If you need to use the horn for a particular operation, then just slide off the ring. This kept my anvil quiet for more than 20 years.
12:03 *when shit's starting to be serious*
😂
I love seeing people who make videos about there hobbies/jobs that are really cool like black smithing
I thought, "Yeah yeah… Chains and magnets…" But I clicked to watch anyway. I'm blown away by the results.
It came out better than I hoped, so I'm happy
@@BlackBearForge
Do you happen to be familiar with sand underground for anvil or a sheet (2-3 mm, guess that's about 1/10 inch thick) of lead between the block and the anvil to reduce clinging noise? Anyhow mounting it on silicone seems to work awesome too, and with the extra metal clamps it will probably hold.
I don’t know why this was recommended... or why I watched the entire thing... but i found it really entertaining
I know nothing about smacking metal into things but somehow, youtube told me I needed to watch this. And in no way am I complaining.
working with your hands is
one way to truly enjoy your life
Excellent way to lock down an anvil! What you did would be considered "tornado-proofing" your anvil here in Mississippi. Th' shop might be gone, but the anvil didn't budge.
Reminds me of one of the smiths north of here after flooding a few years ago. A friend was helping to clean up scooping mud out with a skid loader. The loader came to an abrupt stop, he had found the 400 pound anvil.
Haha!!
Black Bear Forge is
for the past week this has been in my recommendations and i don’t regret watching this now lol
TH-cam, the place where I can learn to lock pick, blacksmith, cook, probably make lock picks, make it through prison, beat a game, learn about games, watch games, and do things with just my bare hands.
ABushInDisguise and cats, don't forget cats.
Yeah I like to make cats with my bear hands too.
@@exoware6479 lol
A fellow LPL watcher?
You will be the best bush there ever was
Thank you Ron Swanson!
put the chains back on just for the aesthetics always looked cool. but still leave your clamps on they worked well
You must have a lot of XP to use the anvil that much
Thanks man, 10/10
You must have worked sooooo hard on that joke i haven’t seen the exact same thing 3 times already at alll
I remember my grandfather using a piece of strop leather under his anvil. It seemed real effective. Great video, thanks for sharing.
Awesome ! My anvil rings my hearing aids so much that I have to cut them off when using it - this system you developed should be the perfect answer to my problem . THANKS !!!
I think the ears appreciate that little trick quieting the Anvil. Looks lots cleaner than the chains. That will be on my to do list. Thanks John.
There is no way that I thought you could tone that anvil down to that extent. Very impressive results and solution.
I don’t have an anvil I don’t do blacksmithing but I still watched all 20 minutes of this video and finally happy with a TH-cam suggestion video 👌🏽
I wish I could have taken shop class and had a teacher like you.
Thanks
Thanks, now I can put Mending to my stuff without waking up my neighbors.
Whoa, that worked way better than I would have expected. Damn, the difference is amazing. The anvil is practically silent compared to the ring it had before!
hey mate
i wanted to say thank you so much i spent 3 weeks straight trying to change my mic and audio to stop the shattering anvil ring. it never ever occurred to me to fix (or that you even could) fix the anvil.
thank you so so so much
It is amazing how much louder an anvil sounds on camera than it seems to in person
Black Bear Forge that is very very true
@@greywolf0 you're a blacksmith and a gamer? Why arent you making more videos?!?
@@Anon_Omis some people describe my voice as frog like shrill and my face as a bad face to beard ratio. I do have the best windows media player trasitions money didnt buy tho. People love them dont they?
Growing up the grandfather's were still alive & well. I would be included in any trip to another tradesman's shop. I clearly remember grandda giving any anvil he walked by a firm but gentle slap to listen to the bell ring.
Although the opportunity is not very common; I walk in their shoes and will give an anvil a spank.
It surprises me how many people who own an anvil don't know about the bell inside of it. Thank you for allowing us to visit with you at your shop.
I don’t anything about blacksmithing or anvils, but for some reason I found this really interesting
Wanted to do this to mine for ages but I think this sealed the deal. Also posted on my birthday so it’s a sign
1.15 minecraft update looking good 😤😤
I love the comments of people saying things about how they need to do this to their anvil! Almost as if it's something everyone has in their home
Anvils make good pets. They are very clean and never bark at the mailman.
I miss blacksmithing... As a child i was often at my godfather. He is art smith and makes realy cool things out of metal.
Most of the time i made small items such as nails or small animals (a snail is realy easy, great for beginners). There was a history festival one time while i was visiting him and we where showing kids how small and easy things are made (again small animals, small metal smiley for the key and such things).
That was great because that was exactly what i used to make and i had a great time while making everyone exactly what they wanted :D
Good old times... I wish there where a bigger market for blacksmithing here in germany. I would love to work as one but you cant life from what you get paid because not many people want something handmade anymore.
I like this channel, i will stay a while and listen ;)
I watched a demonstration of a blacksmith making a nail. I really appreciated the ease that we can get a nail today.
I liked this video, not only on TH-cam but also personally.
My Grandpas anvil was mounted on leather to a tree stump buried in his shop floor. He had home made U clamps at angles that crisscrossed and fit into notches in the stump. It had a dull thumpy ring to it but didn't hurt your ears even after hours of use. Good vid, try the leather
Great video, I really like the anchoring system ... 100% improvement. I am going to use that system on my 200 pounder.
Thanks
Never thought I'd find such a relatively basic project to be so fascinating, but those 20 minutes went by *real* fast
As a longtime 'maker' and 'handy' type, but blacksmithing noob, I always learn so many additional little tricks from your videos, like for example those simple but cool custom-made clamps, and your general overall 'approach'... plus you're also a great teacher, thx!
Thank you
"Make an improvement in your shop" -- what a great piece of advice, and something I actually did today. Thanks for another useful video.
Hey Black bear. Use leather friend. It helps drastically and also looks good. Best place to wrap it would be around the neck of the anvil. Also, the ring helps with metal working anyhow. Take care and keep up the craft. Hopefully you can pass your craft off to a grand kid or child. These are crafts that need to always exist. I personally have been working with extracting iron from what most would just a call a rock. Cool stuff.
I bet you just clamped it down because you were worried that someone might pick the anvil up and run away with it.
Yep, last week I walked away with two ( one in each arm). Really easy, will do again.
Enjoyed that. Just bought my first anvil at 54 off a retired craftsman. It came on a big solid oak block of wood. I noticed that was bolted down onto the wood with plasticine underneath it. Now I know why. The anvil is pretty quiet tbh. It obviously works.
Dudes legit as hell reminds me of ron Swanson
The actor of Ron Swanson reminds me of Ron Swanson
Nick offermen if I spelled it right. It’s the voice similarity
I re-watch this video over few months just because the change in the ring is so drastic. 12/10 good job.
Awesome video as a mechanic I had a hard time watching you manually wrench without grabbing a cordless impact but slow and steady always wins
Hi John! I just wanted to tell you how much this video helped me! I just started blacksmithing a short time ago and have a small piece of railroad track for an anvil. The first time I struck it, the sound was so loud, high pitched, and piercing that dogs 2 blocks away started barking. It was absolutely not going to work. But, a little silicone and strapped it down tight with some pipe strap and now it sings much more beautifully. Thanks for the video! It really helped.
I'm glad it helped out. Keep forging
I don’t even have an anvil but I subbed...
He’s so calming to listen to
The difference is incredible!
I like your style!! I did nothing more than to make clamps to secure my hay budden to the block. It is solid and quiet.
Other anvils have a rubber mat or chain wrapped waist with forged nails to secure in place. The clamps perform best. They serve to hold secure and quiets the ring to a thwack!
That was a great improvement
A clean, tidy and well executed solution that worked incredibly well!
The sound of the anvil is a big part of what makes blacksmithing cool.
and a big part of why so many blacksmiths are deaf
Did I just watch 20 Mins of a Man fixing his anvil to be quieter
Yes I did
Yes I did
Another suggestion for those who are on a budget. You can go to either a scrap yard or local tire shop and get you an old tire, and cut out the tread section. Lay them flat on your stump. Then secure your anvil on top. That too will help quieten down your anvil as well. My Grandpa Smith have done it many of time. Oh how it works wonders.
Wow!! Huge difference, John. I am so stealing this. Thanks!
Nil, watching blacksmiths who just enjoy what they do really makes me want to join that career as an apprentice and help them out
This was in my recommended box because I watched a music video with the band Anvil, and I don't regret clicking on it. You're doing good work, algorithm.
Thank you for this. I finally got around to doing some of this and it made a world of a difference my neighbors are probably just as grateful for you than I am now. ❤
"One method is just to wrap chains around them"
Exactly what I do when my gf gets noisy too.
Thank you for explaining how to get Mt anvil quiet. It's about a 180 pounder. Curved horn, with a hardy and Pritchett. I think my grand father bought it around 1914.
Asphalt roofing shingles work really well to quite and level the anvil.
Spent many an hour listening to my dad’s anvil and my brother’s when they were shoeing horses and making things. I liked the ring then and I like it now.
WoW! John, That really did the trick. I built a stand for my new to me 300lb Henery Wright last week and set it on a piece of belting. It helped but your clamp system is next. Thanks
Halfway through the video and I'm asking myself why am I here .... And I love it
I've found that a sheet of lead (1/8" thick)underneath the anvil works well. Regards, Matthew
I just LOVE ❤️ the Steel classic ANVIL 👍🏻
My 308lb Soderfors rings loud I'm using a big tow chain and it helps a lot. That's the same way i put mine on the stump with a 2x8 ramp. I think I'm going to mount mine this way. Great idea.👍
I also have a Söderfors, 434lb made in 1907 from cast steel, it rings like a church bell :)
That was excellent. I was on the edge of my seat waiting to hear the "after" ring. So dead! Love it. Good idea well excecuted!
Good idea I keep a heavy rubber mat under my anvil and then strap it down living in the middle of Cumberland MD I need it as quite as possible
I'll be doing this today. Thank you
Great tips, thanks! However, a helping hand moving that anvil is sorely needed. Life's too short to risk injury, and it would've been much easier.
That animal is strong as an OX !! He has been lifting and moving heavy stuff since he was in pampers i bet ! LOL He dont need help with that little steel toy ....
@@warrenmichael918 ....That man never wore pampers.
pampers/ loin cloth, same thing !! LOL
@@warrenmichael918 fuck off warren
Me personally I don't mind the anvil ring...it is a good reminder of a beautiful art
There are thin sheets of elastomer vibration damping material available. Some have adhesive on one side. These sheets are very thin, and don’t look like they will do much, but they do. They’re also cheap. The aluminum 2 x 4 foot version from McMasterCarr, is about $30. I haven’t tried it on an anvil, but putting it on the bottom surfaces of the horn and rear, could help a lot.
THIS is the kind of wholesome stuff we need on TH-cam tbh.
this man is by far the most interesting man i’ve ever watched on youtube
this guy is the best. hes like my grandpa
if he wasn't dead
Before I watched the video: Okay, TH-cam, I'll watch it.
After I watched the video: Huh, that anvil was pretty noisy. Neat.
Know what, I appreciate the passion he has for this. That's all I ask of any channel, even if it does sound boring.
I really liked this video. You sir have gained a new subscriber
Very wholesome i have never watched blacksmithing on this profile but yt still recommended, not disappointed
Now i can go on a steath mission with my stealfy anvil.
Mission impossible music starts to play
I never do stuff like this and half way through the video I thought to myself this this is a real man
thumbs up for you john! another instructive video. I will do the same thing as soon as I can get a real anvil. I got a notebook to take note and wear my safety glasses! lol
hello from Belgium
Someone really does listen 😉
He made it look all so easy for us, so we can thank his years of experience of being a master smithy. Tip Top!
When your welding magnets get completely wrecked with that iron dust, a lit oxy acetylene torch works well. Hammer the oxygen thumb valve wide open like you are about to start cutting. It blows and burns the fuzz right off the magnets without heating them up too badly at all. Old millwright trick.
Thanks
Silicone was one of the most important parts of this build! If there is air between the anvil and the stand, the sound is going to bounce from the wood back to the anvil and make more noise. Now that the whole anvil block is solid, the sound will move trough the block 3 meters to the ground and make noise there and it wont bother anybody! Great job and looks really clean too!
Finally YT sent me to a type of channel I actually like, when I was 13 I experienced Blacksmithing for the first time and I've wanted my own forge and anvil ever since! Cool video especially how you figured out how to move the anvil by hand haha, I would've used an motor crane!
John here made a big difference. Good job well back to work lol. Enjoy
Awesome job man this was an amazing experience watching your video keep up the good work!
hank Quinones love seeing this blacksmith shop and the other thing in it.