Unbelievable Trick to Run Wires Through Walls and Fix Drywall - You Won't Believe What Happens Next!
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- How to run and fish electrical wire through Studs inside drywall and if you are planning on adding Lights, plugs, or switches then you must watch this video first! " WORK SMARTER NOT HARDER".
Running electrical wires through the studs when there is drywall up? Thats easy!!! just watch how I the "Starving Electrician" takes the guess work out of it!
How to determine where the wires are on the back side of the studs so we don't hit them when drilling through the studs? Another easy example.
How to PATCH DRYWALL HOLES. that you may have to make.
A quick and easy electricians hack to fix the drywall damage and move on! you are going to love this!
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I got your point, and I think you made it very well. The point is; don't be afraid to cut a hole through the drywall; cut the hole, run the wire, patch the hole, paint, and move on to living your life.
Thank you for this video.
Well said!
If I was doing this it would be my life satisfaction is making money and having fun true fulfillment . And that's how I roll.
And you can also find out who put that drywall up before the wires were put in.
As a master finisher, I can say, the way you leave the holes is perfect for me to come behind you and finish those out.
I used to work with guys like you all over Beverly Hills, Pacific Palisades, Hollywood Hills etc. working on mansions for extremely picky people.
We always worked with the other trades including thoughtful electricians like you which made my job and there’s much easer than otherwise.
The end result was quality work done efficiently as possible.
Wow thank you!!! Debating about opening a shop in california. not sure but would like to move back. Vegas is cool but California is home.
@@StarvingElectrician Lots of work on Calif & money is good, BUT TOO DAMNED Expensive & TOO Much Government
@@StarvingElectrician plenty of money out here for good tradesmen, the guy who did all the railing ast my parents owns a shop out of state and does all his work in state to circumvent living in commiefornia. I have plenty of friends making 30-50$/hr in the trades here. The palce is expensive because this is where you make the most money doing what you do. 300-500$/a day for a side job is the norm
@@howardblasingame7961 eh this man, could easily purchase a house anywhere in the sf bay area working with his skill set in 4-10 years.
Do you add tape around the circular cut to avoid future cracking of mud/compound?
Excellent video my friend. A serious subject for the contracter, but your light-hearted humor made it watchable - RIGHT ARM! I was a life long security alarm company owner in Lost Angeles, being retired for over 30 years now. All of your techniques were what I did to post-wire a home and it's great to go back to those days through your camera and wit -loved it. D-versa bit drills, pokers, hole saws, glow rods, knowledge - all that friggin dust, I miss it badly. I will admit after 20+ years as a contractor, I have nicked about 4 electrical wires trying to find that sweet spot from wall to wall plates and up or down to the next floor, a record I'm proud of. 4 out of thousands of homes - not bad.
As a previous wire jockey, thanks for passing this on to the newer generation. It's a vital way to protect your good name and garner new customers. Be well.
wow what a great over view. thanks so much for watching!!
LOST Angeles! That was hilarious and sad but true!
One great way to put it: "Efficiency is experienced laziness." Thanks for the tips and the taco recommendations!
Any time!
I am a pro but Im still jealous of those folks that do quick and good work and somehow at the end of the day don't have a spot if dust or dirt on them. Don't matter if they greasing backhoes all day some guys just gave a way about them.
I've been an electrician over 35 years and this is a good tip. To all those clowns that say you should do it this way or do it that way, I guess they don't listen very good. You said this is how YOU do it. No one is putting a gun to their head making them do it! Everybody has their own way of doing things, some easier, some not. Good video.
THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING!!!!!! damn im so sick of the "hey try it this way" thing. take it or leave it. I'm only trying to help wtf?
I’d only offer one variation, put one screw in the center hole only. Avoid any low or high spot.
But I really like the fact that you even speak like a real electrician, uncensored. I’m certain someone out there who doesn’t swear and is an electrician will cry a few tears because that’s naturally what will happen, for some morality bullshit need to correct or scold.
Been doing this stuff long enough that maybe it’s time I just do a 6” round hole rather than the damned irritating rectangle ones I’m forever repairing 😂
I am a drywall taper by trade....And to be honest; I very, very rarely find any drywall repair that has been done by electricians. Apparently their time is too valuable. At 85$+ an hour; they can not justify spending even 5 or10 extra minutes to fix some of their repairs. On top of that; those repairs often could have been avoided if their original work had been done properly in the first place. On many occasions , they had to be called back for some forgotten feature of the contract, that was missed on the the blueprints.,,, but ,,,hey we are all only humans
Well said 💪😁👍
I enjoyed this.
I'm retired Navy . One of the hats I wore during my time was that of an HT, Hull Technician, Shipfitter/Pipefitter. One of my commanding officers on a ship I was on used to like me quite a bit. We had a really good working relationship. One day us engineering guys were all in a space trying to solve a unique problem and the CO asked me directly what I thought. After I gave my opinion and some further discussion took place, which lead to a fairly relaxed environment, one of the junior officers asked the CO why he was constantly calling me into these situations for my opinion. The CO said that if you ever wanted the easiest and most straightforward way to get something done you ask the laziest guy how he would do it. Of course we all laughed and the CO said he was just joking but I was never really sure. LOL
there has never been truer words spoken!!!...lol thanks for sharing that story!
A good CO listens to the enlisted men and women at least sometimes.
Heh heh, I would use that same leverage as a craftsman when I was in the Navy - submarine squardron 15 out of Guam. One nice thing about being a careful pro craftsman is just what you said, smart people will listen to you and utilize your talents. In return, when you come back all bloodied from a bar fight, you wouldn't be srutinized much - nobody wants to cross the Captains friend. LOL. Be well.
@@hgr4255 Yep I actually got into a bar fight in Little Creek and the CO held ship's movement and sent the Master-at-arms down to bail me out. Got 1/2 and 1/2 reduction in rank one pay grade ALL suspended for six month's. Yep, sometimes things work out. Fair winds and following seas.
@@disillusioned070 I held up the Hunley for 2 days in Bremerton because I destroyed our ships van going around a curve at the communications center in Keyport. There was black ice on the road that early 4 AM morning, the first time I encountered black ice in my life. So, I was in the hospital for a full day, I was charged with causing loss of ships movement and the JAG said I would be liable for $1 million a day for each day the ships movement was delayed. About 1 hour later, another JAG 'crew' came to bedside and asked me what went on with the previous JAG team. I told them, they said you'll be fine. Here's why. They asked me if, as a driver of a ships vehicle, was I EVER instructed on how to drive in 'black ice' causing weather. I said NO, I'm from Southern California - we don't DO black ice there. He thanked me for my testimony, told me everything was fine, I was to be discharged from the hospital that days end and not to worry about anything. Heh heh, the pain was when my fellow shipmates woke me up from a nice sleep aboard ship as we were preparing to get underway. The brought me to the port side as I watched this flattened panckaked version of our Dodge Tradesman ships van. That van was TOAST. It was embarrasing as they all clapped at me for this...jheez.
I’m a retired electrician but 99% of my work was industrial, gas plants, oil wells, etc. I’ve done a few houses for myself and friends but not much retro work. Great video, enjoyed it.
thank you. yea im mainly an industrial electrician but try to push out what I can for residential.
Thanks! Been doing wiring work for a little over 10 years... love these videos! Short, to the point, very well presented ... golden!
thanks so much and thanks for the tip much appriciated!!
Hey, I've been doing drywall for 20 years. I do everything the same way you do. Except for that Budweiser thing at the end. Now I learned something new.
lol thank you for being a pro who agrees with me!
Nice video, well done. If I may... (40 year retired electrician here) I always ran the hole saw in reverse, less biting in and when the sheetROCK finally dulled the holesaw enough, I ran it in forward to finish off the sharpness of the tool. You look like you have to buy your own tools too.
yes I should have shown that. avoid the mess
Thanks, helpful tips-- and I've completely rewired two of our houses. A big hole is easy to work in! With your method, those holes are not a problem. As a former painting contractor, here's a tip for you: get a flexible putty knife, it will cut your gap filling time in half.
VERY VERY GOOD, I LIKE YOUR METHODS...I HAVE 47 YEARS IN THE ELECTRICAL BUSINESS DOING A TON OF OLD WORK AND I CAN TELL THAT YOU'RE THAT GUY THAT'S ABSOLUTELY LEGIT. I'VE DON SOMETHING SIMILAR BUT I LIKE YOUR WAY BETTER THAN MIND.....THANKS!!!!
Thanks for sharing, man thank you so much. I get a lot of hate for this video. It's just one way if you absolutely have to make holes you can repair them this way. its not intended to be the "ONLY" way.
I've used this method many times. This is tried and true old school electrical work. Good to see somebody passing on this old school knowledge. These types of old school methods are dying out of our trade.
RESPECT BROTHER!!
so true Im a dying breed. trying to show the people coming up and homeowners the tricks that make life a little easier. thanks for watching. Respect to you brother!
Yeah, I was taught this way too. There are many methods to do anything but always learn the best one!
With all the hole an time your wasting just cut out a 6" wide channel drill studs an pull wire you'll be done before you drill all those hole an you not a pro that why you leaving it to a pro
I agree with you and it really makes much more sense to me and I have never fixed drywall that I can remember but have other ideas too on the subject of drywall.@@townofislipnotforpersonalu4713
But if I had already purchased this big wall board drilling tool I may be dumb enough to use it.
Great video! Glad I found your TH-cam channel, I needed this. Looking forward to watching more of your easy fix videos, you're making it look pretty easy. Keep'em coming. Thanks.
Awesome! Thank you!
Hi; I siumbled across your site/vlog! You have helped me already. I have been part-timing - doing network cabling "work" - and - your couple of hints / tips in this one video, alone - makes me MUCH more confident of the next job I have to work on! Thank you!
thats great to hear!!! thanks
As a fellow handyman and DIY'er of 40 yrs, I must say I like your style homie. Keep up the good work and keep the content coming. God Bless my brother †
thanks my brother I appreciate that!!
I don't comment on many videos, but I'd like to say thanks for demonstrating an effective method of doing this job without all the bullcrap. Although I'm not an electrician, I've done it this way many times and it has always gotten the job done. When you can't go up or down, this is the only way. Thanks for passing it on!
man I appriciate you comment. it feels like I defend myself more than saying thank you.
This turned out better than I was expecting. Just shows you can always learn something different. Well done and thank you.
Thank you very much!
For years I have both wondered how and dreaded running anything thru studs. I have even bypassed that and run an extension cord down a wall and out just to avoid it. You SIR have shown me a GODSEND.THANK YOU SOOOO VERY MUCH!!! I wanna hang out with and buy you a TACO & BEER!!!
lol right on!!!! you come out to vegas and its tacos and beer for sure!!!
This is a great guy, one you would want as a neighbor. Good teacher too. Ted
right on. im one of those guys who helps too much and expects beer after though. lol thank you
Although this is a Great idea and technique.....I find it much easier to simply cut away and remove the drywall. I cut away a 12" wide strip from point A to B. drill thru the studs, run the wire, outlets and switches, etc....then attach a new 12" wide drywall strip with screws. Mud and finishing is way easier and faster.
this is just one trick I use once in a while
As a finish taper no it's not .if im floating a 6 " patch my finish will be roughly 16 " float.at 12" ill be 32" float
@ronscott4430 If you only have one 6" hole it would be easier & faster, but not when there's several 6" holes that close together because you're going to have several 12" bumps if you don't fill the area between the patches and skim the whole thing to plane it all in. I'd rather patch one long strip because it's easier to tape a straight line than a circle and it's easier to plane in
I agree. I've been at for 40 years. Go with what you know. Or guess.
Never seen a plumber or electrician that could tape mud or sand hammers there way
Good job. As a painter I used non shrinking sheetrock mud. But either way you are a pro and a good guy to help out the sheet rockers.
thank you brother
Good video Brother. I have used that method for years when pulling wire horizontally thru old work. Glow sticks are one of the best inventions ever made, after flex bits and the 1/4" cordless impact of course. Drive on and dont worry about drywallers. They get paid same as we do. Sometimes more. AATW!
Right on
Some spade bits are listed as suitable for use with an impact driver. Saves your wrists vs. using a regular drill driver especially when you are reaching overhead or otherwise not in an ideal stance. Excellent video.
Who'd expect the best non-profesional drywall fixing video from an electritian?! Great video - thank you.
You're the guy painters and drywallers love to come behind, thank you from the bottom of my heart
Wow, thank you!!lol im just trying to help
Great advice. I do tge same thing. Fine thread screws are for metal studs. As you say not recommended for this application
I was taught this patching method by an very old dude. I have used it ever since. I normally use 1x3 or a 1x4. Thanx for a great video.
Glad to hear it!
Nicely demonstrated drywall repair after wiring, thank you very much!
Thanks for the way to go through areas already drywalled. My Dad was an electricion at 5'6 he was normally the smallest on the crew and got all the tight spaces to go in including attics.
lol i always worked out and got chosen to do the heaviest work so I know about standing behind the other guys when picked for the shitty work!...lol
I typically don't have to go to that much trouble. Also, a quality stud scanner with AC detection is immensely helpful for situations like this. With an AC detector you're not guessing 6" holes across the wall. Ill usually cut a 3" wide channel across the wall as far as needed with an oscillating tool and save the piece that comes out to plug back in after im finished. I do the drywall repairs too
Just cut a three inch hole at every sideways stud and butterfly drill it deep enough for the Romex. Put a staple in it and a NAIL PLATE ON EVERY STUD you patch afterwards. You can carry this principle through up into ceilings, if you're careful. Just leave it patchable.
Hi Lenny, just so you know how much of an impact you make teaching what you do. I just got a quote today from my electrician on fishing wires and adding two switches and a ceiling box. My quote was $1,680 dollars. I live in Hagerstown Maryland. By no means would I ever say I could do as good a job as a professional electrician. What I am saying is that what you teach gives me the confidence to at least try. Thank you Lenny for all you do.
That is amazing!!!! hey we never discount peoples knowledge and they have a business to run but, I would like to cut down my costs by at least trying it myself. Thanks so much for this comment and thanks for watching!!!
As a homeowner I have used the wood behind the patch for small holes many times. If covering a large area I tend to remove all or a strip I cut of drywall across all the studs. Depending on what I need. Good video.
Excellent tip - saved me a lot of hassle thank you! I would recommend making plywood battens as they are less likely to split when fixing.
That's a great idea!
..Ya..specially if you only want to use a piece that is an inch and half or even less
Good Lord, this is fantastic! What a terrific, straight forward methodology. Thank you for sharing.
thanks so much!!!
Oh man, this is really going to help if I ever need to do this in my house. Thanks for sharing. It was a real pleasure to watch and I love your humor.
Glad you enjoyed it!
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This is the absolute BEST that I have ever seen to accomplish this! Work smart not hard
thanks so much!!! and yes work smarter nor harder!!!
You seem like a thoughtful person . Thanks for sharing a lot of problem solvers .
And thanks for sharing your attitude
it keeps things real
Fun. Miles of smiles and
thanks again
thank you sooo much. this info is free and lots of assholes bash it. wow
My husband did a lot of taping and he would have appreciated that you weren’t leaving a thick layer or globs of mud that would have required a lot of sanding to make problems for him. Your drinking buddies trained you well! Very good video. I never did a lot of residential electrical and always wondered about fishing through studs, so thanks!
thanks so much!!!!
Thanks, some good pointers here; better than the last time I did this.
I appreciate your good-natured attitude!
thanks so much!
Excellent video! Straight to the point, you don't mince words and give tips on how you do it. Thanks Subscribed!
you are awesome!!! thanks soooo much
You do more than most electricians by far, clean, quick and out the door. 👍
well maybe out the door!
Great video! I think I’m going to have to use a little bit more finesse due to the previous owner using wood paneling but I might use this method for the one wall I have with dry wall
theres a lot of ways this is just my favorite! good luck
Nice to see a craftsman at work. Last electrician I dealt with just used a hammer to beat a path for the wire in the drywall and left it for me to fix.
Right on, not to say I havent used a hammer on drywall before! lol
Always wish I got into the trades when I was young. I’m much older now and try to do as much as I can learning from guys like you.
great to hear thank you
Thank you for this. My wife does drywall and I do electrical and I agonize over trying to make as small a hole and minimal work for her to fix later but I'm always concerned with hitting old unseen wiring in cavities or how to angle drilling.
yea thats the biggest fear. thats a mess no one wants!
I’ve used this method, but I ended up buying an 90 degree adapter for my drill ($15) to get centered on studs. It also has come in handy for so many other tight in work.
right on!
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No clue how I got here other than I like to learn new things... especially home related stuff. Loved the video, educational and humor. New subscriber, thanks!
Awesome! Thank you!
Super video. Excellent instructor. He shows you precisely what to do, how to do it and WHY to do it using the method which he demonstrates. Thank you, sir!
Thank you very much!
Nice tips Mr. Starving Electrician!
Here is something to consider: the mini angle drill to drill horizontally through the studs, or even a regular angle drill with multiple extensions to drill longer lengths horizontally.
yea but cant see the other side of the studs for wire or water pipes
@@StarvingElectrician have you ever tried using a walabot?
@@StarvingElectrician I've only worked on my own house, but when I needed to know what was behind the wall, I would just drill a hole large enough to stick my borescope into, and then I could see, and the hole I made was small enough to fill with just mud.
If that didn't work, I would make a big enough hole to stick my phone in, and take pictures or video, and that always worked for me.
@@maximusvonderbrewskis - Funny thing, the Walabot ad appeared right before the video for me.
@@StarvingElectriciansometimes you just gotta risk it for the biscuit, buddy
This is a great idea and what I used to do. Then on a job I had a guy tell me if you have to cut a holoe in the wall it doesn't matter if it's small or big because it will have to be repaired. So cut one long hole across all the studs. It's much easier to repair one long skiny hole than it is to repair several small holes.
yea I hear ya but hopefully this is only one hole you need so you dont make a complete mess for the drywall guy. thanks
It is way harder to save a skinny part of drywall intact ,for further repair use, than a nice round hole. ...and even if you were to free hand cut the piece you want to remove; it will always fit back in its original spot.
Using round holes keeps the integrity of the wall together and damage to a minimum. Long strip cuts can bend or buckle between the studs and are a pain to match and level. Also should the circular hole "chad" become damaged, just cut another one.
Good hack.
I have seen some electricians really butcher drywall with the attitude "the drywall guys will repair it."
oh yea. i couldnt do that to the homeowner
This is wonderful. Electrical, drywall, and taco time! Very informative and entertaining...
lol now its a party!!!!
Exactly what I needed to know. Very informative. And entertaining. Great video.
Glad it was helpful!
I love your very practical approach to things. Thanks.
Maybe u wouldn't be starving if u weren't doing fuckin drywall shit when ur an electrician. U probably even have a broom and dustpan to sweep up the dust and debris
I like your video you explain it real well and make it real easy to repair appreciate you and I'll be watching for you from now on you help me with some good great tips
I am aware of this method, but this is REALLY well shown and explained. 👍👍
Thanks man.
I'm always doing some kind of DIY project and I have found there is no measles way to cut and replace drywall until now I have cut an 8 to 12 in wide hole straight line from stud to stud and maybe from one end of the wall to the other ran what ever wire and outlet wall sconce etc, as well as using the 1X2 brace at the 1/2 waypoint. But that hole saw idea looks like a good idea
its a last resort thing but works pretty well
what a great, straightforward educational video! I'm no longer scared of putting holes in my walls. Thanks!!
Glad you enjoyed it! but putting holes is always scary!! lol
Great hack. I've used it before. It's an easy patch job and efficient. Really enjoyed the video.
Awesome! Thank you!
Adding outlets to my home now. Outstanding tips my man! I shall use for sure.
Fantastic!, thanks so much. good luck
When I run new wire in a finished wall I use an oscillating tool to cut a 3" or so strip in the drywall, use a 90 degree drill to hit the center of the stud (don't need a nail shield like needed after drilling caddywhompus (eh?)), reinstall the strip pieces and finish with setting compound. I've found finishing the strips easier to finish than a circle.
Hole saw for years myself, but also found the Oscillating tool for this leaves such a thin kerf that I switched. Just as easy to keep the piece. 5min mud, three times max , texture spray and done.
yes indeed. lots of other tricks out there
Yea, don't do this. Cut back the wall as a rectangle to the middle of the adjacent studs, then drywall screw the edges of the cutout piece as well is the edges of the wallboard that was not cut out. Then refinish the whole area, not just the edges of the cut piece or it will show. Learn to do it right and it won't be more effort than trying to cut the minimum out, and you will have more space for your angle drill as well.
thanks.this is just one of many ways
The trick I've been looking for at my house to run some wire. Thanx for sharing 👏
Always like when I learn something useful between waking up and going to sleep. Thanks.
Glad to help! i bore myself to sleep too!! lol
All good info!! Only thing I would suggest it to use plywood strips for your backing pieces if it's available. Frequently, those course thread screws will split a small solid piece of wood but the plywood will never split since it's laminated with criss crossed pieces. I always try to put a wider piece in the hole using a long screw right in the center to hold the piece while you install the first screw.
Obviously, we all use whatever's available!! ;o)
yea great point cause they have split on me. thanks
This is how I know you’ve done this before lol, you are 100% on point.
Love the plywood idea. And I know Im being picky, but I would use two backer strips; one screwed to the stud and the other just like his backer plate.
I use OSB rather than plywood and glue it to the back of the drywall along with the screws. This leaves a corner that you can butter with compound before you stick the drywall piece back in.
After you sand that compound, prime any fuzzy paper with Kilz, add a small amount of compound as needed and sand. After painting, the patch will be almost impossible to find
Good job. I like to use OSB or plywood strips ripped to size instead of a wood backer. Less likely to split, no wood grain or knots and easy to sink a screw into. I do drywall patching and repair. Hot mud works good because it does not shrink and crack as much.
yea for sure. if the wood is to hard i see it split a lot. good point
Awesome my man… straight forward, no bs… you got it goin on
First off, fabulous video and great information. Plus I love you style. Great idea on how to get the job done and fix the drywall. I really appreciate you sharing your experience. You're the best!!
Thanks so much! I appriciate your words
Great practical advice, I am a builder, and occasionally sparkies as we call them in our country will have to make holes in plasterboard, this pisses us off, but can't be helped, most are good and at least will put the patch back in, some won't. Your advice is wonderful. Tengas an buen dis Amigo
so nice to hear. thanks so much
I do the same thing but use Durabond 90 for that first coat. It's a dry powder you mix up and doesn't shrink and dries as hard as concrete, just make sure it's all in the cracks and below the surface. It's structural and doesn't sand, but it bonds like you wouldn't believe then just do your coats of regular mud, no tape, no muss, no fuss.
yea thanks. I just dont know the terms. i just squeek by!..lol
I used to use Durabond 90 back in the day. It also works great to repair plaster and lathe, a dying art. I fixed most of the plaster and lathe in my father-in-law's house 35 years ago and painted most of the rooms, and he gave me a car!
It only takes a minute to tape a patch. It's not muss or fuss it's just part of doing quality work
You are amazing thanks for share now I know how avoid explosion in my garage , the best video ever seen .
My guy! Just gotta comment to support cause I appreciate the realness and effectiveness 💯
right on!!! thanks so much
I do it this way with a twist. I like to use 1" x 4" wood and put a screw in the center of it. Gives you something to hold onto.
yep I do that but forgot!..lol
This is exactly how I did it. I would tell customer's what needed to be done and still some of them would often say, "aren't you going to finish the wall?" I'd tell them they didn't want that. I am not a drywall guy or a plasterer and those guys do their job very well. I just close up the wall so there isn't a gaping hole.
By the way, Florida attics are crazy hot too and I also don't fit in many places :D
lmao!!!!! yep you dont want to see an electricians drywall work. you should see my carpentry work!!!! yuck!
@@StarvingElectrician LMAO
Good trick :) and good solution to so many problems is planning but sometimes mistakes get made and someone has to sort them haha.
Had to do this so many times in my place cause the original electrical contractor put wires down from the roof a batten over from the switch or had random 90's not to mention all the other issues and now hes a top inspector (even though i am sure he wouldn't pass our place if he looked at it)
Thanks again
Very true!, uggggggg the stuff you find after the fact.
You give good advice on the safe and practical way to do this. In addition to your method I always use an electronic metal and live wire detector as well, just in case.
Hey man , this is a great tip, keep up the good work 👍
Glad you liked it!
As a 59 yr old electrician I can tell you that this is the preferred method when you have to drill holes. The key is to leave only footprints. We all have to work together and be our own custodians, most drywallers will not shred your wires with a rotozip if you take care of them lol.
sooooooo true!!! lol thanks for watching
@FedEXfright This is factored in as it's the only way to really get wires, pipes etc from point A to point B in a practical manner. Of course you don't want to drill oversize holes or too many in a row etc.
@FedEXfright Structurally speaking, drilling a small hole through the centre of the stud has virtually no impact on its load capacity. What you want to avoid is cutting slots or holes on the edge of the stud and that effectively reduces the cross section.
@FedEXfright There's codes on drilling holes. As long as you follow the guidelines you are good.
@@Spp235. In today's houses, I've seen studs cut with a handheld circular saw (I think) with a slot going 2/3rds of the way through the stud at an angle. Supposedly this allows the drywallers to hang the walls so that they don't do the wavey thing as they transition each adjoining stud along the wall. The slots in the studs allow the studs some "forward and backward" flexibility to keep the drywall board relatively true all along its width.
I love it when a tradesman, considers other tradesmen...It's what makes, a True tradesman...I'm HVAC, mostly...Thanks for the video.
thank you. im just going off what other trades have taught me.
i always made my hole as small as possible, now you have convinced me your way is better
lol to each his own. this is one of many ways. but thank you for saying that!
Openings in wall are situational but very good general points.
I've done drywall for over 30 years and general construction, had a hand in most trades.
Always such a brutal sight to see people wanting to make the smallest openings and then just making more problems.
Other people have mentioned maybe a larger opening rather than a bunch of round ones, etc.
Depends on the run. Depends on the wall. Depends on if it's a total finished house or a fix to house under construction with no flooring but finished drywall...
People stop thinking there's one way to do everything. Kudos, great vid.
excellent! thank you so much for that!
You have some of the best “grass roots” electrical videos on TH-cam. Just got my masters and started going out on my own these help man thank you.
Wow, thanks!
This trick works! If it's apartment wall, i personally recommend adding small supports to both sides of the hole in just to prevent the small chance of it snapping in half if something heavy hits it. some drywall fellas also like to carve the edges into v shapes. something about putty having more ground to stuck on to
Solid video brother!! i thought u was just going punch a hole in that dry wall then show us how to do it, i was mistaken very professional thanks man for the inspiration.
so kind of you!!! thanks
I'm writing to you from France. I find this quite interesting as here we use a galvanised stud system. Cutting a horizontal hole through the vertical stud would thus be more of a pain in the @$$. Also we place the vertical studs at the joint between the drywall boards. When I do this operation with holes, it is common practice to put drywall tape or a type of fine-mesh gauze around the hole to prevent any cracking. Wide feathering is thus required as well.
hmmmm thats interesting. thanks
@@StarvingElectrician
If you're interested, do a TH-cam search of "poser du placo mural". This first short video in the search results gives an overview of the system. Of course, it's in frogspeak, but you'll get the idea.
Hey, man, great tips as always. You got me with the 'coarse screw' tip - I'll use that one forever. Here's a tip back at you - I have a handy-dandy Dewalt right angle attachment the I use to drill studs, so you get a nice straight hole that's guaranteed to be in the center of the stud. Also, it allows me to always use a newer (and sharper) bit. DAMN, a sharp bit is everything, and if you have that expensive, long bit, you might be more likely to try to keep using it as it dulls, when a smaller cheaper corkscrew bit will save you a TON of pain. (When I was a kid, my dad would use drill bits and sheetrock knife blades until they were worn down to a nub. It was like a friggin' miracle when realized (in my 30s) that you can actually use a SHARP blade! (cue singing angels). Ah, life. And, finally, don't underestimate the value of these videos. ONE basic lesson can give a guy the tools to do a better job. That better job will lead him to more work. And that's a good thing. Onward!
right on my brother I hear ya!
Coarse screws are for drilling into wood studs. Fine thread sheetrock screws are for drilling into metal studs like found in commercial buildings.
There is a difference!
I like it. Thanks. This seems a lot easier than cutting out square holes with a saw.
I needed power for a blind system, this trick saved a lot of headache, been to Roberto’s! Thx Pro.
right on!!! thanks for watching
Nice work - I always appreciate when my local electricians just leave the cut out for me to patch up - having them install the cut out for me would be a bonus... ALTHOUGH (there's always that, right?!), I would prefer that you not patch the seams because they do need to be taped to avoid cracking out in the near future. Not a big deal for a taper, I can have holes like that finished and textured in just a few minutes.
My add on would be to use 5/8" or 3/4" plywood or OSB as the backer - WAY easier and they don't split out. Electricians are a drywaller's best friend or worst enemy. I make sure to find out what my fellow contractors preferences are and TRY TO HELP THEM OUT! They'll do the same for you. Nothing like having subs that get along and know how to work together, even when you're not on the jobsite at the same time. One hand washes the other... Or, one hand for the taco, one for the beer! Cheers!
right on thanks for your comment
Would it be good practice to run the wires lower in the wall when possible, like knee level, just in case the patches don't turn out perfect. Being right at eye level it would make every tiny flaw more visible than if they were lower.
yes great point!!! thanks
No dont do that. The code in many places specifies wire height and safety covers to protect wires going threw joists.
going into attic or crawl space can save tons of time and with micro small but long drill bits is so much easier in my view.
Dude, you are the best. love your humor and easy to understand your directions. You are o down to earth. Thank you!!
I appreciate that! thanks so much!
These are awesome for when you have a customer that tends to keep adding change orders.
That Ole Dewalt is struggling my guy
lol I know. i need to send that heavy thing to be fixed.
Cut a square hole with the drywall blade on a multi-tool.. When you go to put the cutout piece back in, put boards on the outside edges to support putting the piece back in. WAY easier to repair with mud when done, and stronger than just the 1 board in the center.
You can also cut whatever shape/size you need using the multi-tool.
Cutting a square takes longer, than just using a hole saw. As they say, time equals money. A piece of wood and joint compound is more than enough to provide support for that cutout. If you need more support, for one reason or another, you can just have two pieces of wood as backing.
too much extra work for basically no benefit.
You did a good job . I'm a full trade carpenter & do it all . I would appreciate what you do if I had to cover your punch out . Great job & good job in considering the drywall guys.
yes indeed. let the pros handle it.
Great video!! Right to the point... NO B.S. One suggestion, however... try running the drill in reverse when drilling the hole. It is easier to control and less dust. Drywall is very soft. So you will have no problem drilling through it.
yea Theres a few things i missed. thanks
I've always found it better to replace the cut out with smaller gauge plaster board, so if the board is half inch, replace the hole with 3/8 board, this then gives you something to fill in, keeping the wall flat, in the UK it would normally be a 12.5mm plasterboard that you would replace with a 9mm board, can also get hold of 6mm board
hmmmmm ok very cool. thanks
Thats a great idea
Just adds more work, for no gain --either way you still have the lip of the original drywall to cover, and that adds thickness from the compound and tape. You always tape, don't you?
@@henseleric No, you don't have to tape over both sides of the joint, with a small gap between the boards the filler/mud should be pushes into it, this bonds them together, you can run tape on the inside if wanted. if the joint is weak, you can add a extra wood/mettle batten by screwing it to both sides of the joints on the back. Have always found this method stronger.
If the wall is going to be tiled, you don't want bumps in it. My trade is a plasterer, so I've fixed many holes in walls/ceilings over the years
If you use a low voltage bracket template you get plenty of room to drill through the stud, gives you a lot more versatility when it comes to passing through studs. Most of the time you can go down to outlet height and just add a blank plate over the hole. When you have to pass through a lot of studs in an odd area and there's no way around it the rectangle is just big enough to cover with a piece of drywall tape, so you would follow the same steps as you did when patching your circle cut, but you can finish it over with tape which just kinda skips a few steps for the drywaller / home owner because they would end up taping it anyway. Suddenly I want tacos all the sudden 🥺
shit after all that I want tacos too!!! lol
You Sir sound just like my uncle Carl, as far as work hacks go. He was an electrician in Vegas for years. But that was many years ago, more than ten. Anyway, the man definitely knew his stuff!!! So I'm all this as definitely a compliment.
Be safe out there brother!!
much love to you and uncle Carl!!!!
@@StarvingElectrician Oh he passed away several years ago. It's no biggie my friend. He definitely lived and passed on his own terms. There might be tougher men out there than he was, but I've not met them. Heck, the man got jumped by four guys while in a f'ing phone booth!! He was the only one that walked away. Saw that with my own two eyes as a kid. Damnedest thing I ever saw!! After seeing that I begged him to teach me how to fight. Once he finally agreed I dropped out of karate and self defense classes and trained under him for the next 3 or 4 years. I'm now 49 and have lost only one fight. All because I lost sight of that fourth guy, that ended up giving me a foot to the side of the face.
Oh well, the other three got better than they could give. Nor was I knocked out. Bouncer's got involved and wouldn't let me get me hands on the fourth guy.
Anyway, Uncle Carl was a cool MF'er. Your mannerisms, knowledge, and humor (although cleaned up A LOT) remind me of him. Which is pretty cool really.
Sorry for being so long winded. Nobody in the family liked him, nor me for that matter. F---'em! So I don't get the opportunity to talk about him.......at all really. So I do apologize for going off the rails.
Be safe out there brother!!
I like square holes because I put put four pieces of fiberglass drywall tape on the seams. I sometimes use small pieces of plywood for the strip in back because it won't split
yep I hear ya