Your perspective is very refreshing. I have both the blue and green dial. My coworker let me have his at a great price. The MM200 is definitely a solid construction compared to the 62mas. But for what they both offer, the MM200 really does bring more to the table. You just feel like you’re getting more for your money!
Outstanding video review on this beautiful Seiko diver . I own the SBDC033 Sumo/Blumo and as of now to me the best affordable Seiko diver . Honestly though this new MM200 has definitely caught my eye and am seriously considering buying this watch 👍🏻💯
@@odarpxela l am not sure what material is used on the GS diver sbga231 and the sla017. They look like ceramic but is actually some kind of harden coating too. I have them for a few years now and so far no scratches. As they don't crack, it's a proper tool.
They could be tungsten carbide coating as they cost more. Just guessing 😅. Anyway, the Cermet bezel insert used on some of the LX divers is another admirable innovation.
Nice video my friend. Subscribed :-) I own a Submariner, (nutty price these days. I wouldn't even consider one now), a Speedmaster and a number of other high end divers and watches...but took possession of one of these just last week. So, I'd say this... If you are thinking of buying one of these because your budget doesn't hit the upper end or because you just think it is a great looking watch that totally fits the bill and are looking for something of real quality but without going crazy...then this is the watch for you. It looks super smart, has real wrist presence and a feeling of real quality. The green face looks the absolute biz ;) Looks even better 'in person' than on screen. Totally recommended fellas!
At 58 and having had, a few Seiko Divers including the original 150m, Diver, now the (SPB207j & varients) I can only say this. I have had the cash to blow on a Rolex in the past and present , never bothered and put the funds into my favourite charity the HSI. If I see another pompous desk diving Boomer Git with their Rolex I'll scream from my dive pontoon like Albert Finney in movie "Network". Hate, Hate, Hate the hole idealogy and bullshit commerce spin that is ROLEX. Always a smile with a Seiko on your dial. Seasons greetings from Queensland among the Mantarays. 🐬🐳🦈.
@@johnhayes5820 Very funny John ;) Loving the Albert Finney reference too. (Do watch 'Miller's Crossing' if you've not seen it). Just don't mention the cricket...
Seiko has killer options including the Willard. Sometimes the only reason Rolex is better is due to the "resale" value and people making thousands of dollars when flipping. Great video love this MM 😍
I'm not even sure that Rolexes are better resale-wise. Not too many Rolexes are worth two or three - or even ten - times their original street price within a few years of being discontinued. But that's the situation for a number of Seiko cult classics. Just to go off of some watches in my collection: I have an SNK807 (2nd gen black monster) which I bought new on Amazon for $150; now it's probably worth $450 used. Also have an SKXA35 (US market yellow dial SKX), which I bought for about $280 from my local dealer, now that's worth about $600 And I have an SNKM95 (red dial Amazon exclusive SNK), $50 from Amazon, which had been selling on eBay for a crazy $500-ish lately (though I haven't seen any for a few months). Not ever Seiko goes like that - certainly not watches as popular as the SKX007 - but it does happen to a fair number of the more limited or exclusive entry to mid-range models.
Very balanced assessment. Watches are now an item of jewellery as for most people their mobile phone tells the time and more accurately. So for reasonable timing keeping and looking the part you can’t get much better than this Seiko. I had 2 Rolex watches over the years and they kept lousy time. Mind you I wish I had them now as I could pay off my mortgage:) Crazy 😜
Great review and awsome watch. Seiko is pushing value. Especially at the 1k price point. I would love to see you review the SPB237 vintage Willard. Greetings from Germany
this is very handsome watch and looks similar to a Grand Seiko Diver i saw at Craigshipp's channel. this has very angular handsome lugs which are even better than samurai and i realise samurai is actually quite BIG regrettably. this version looks much like the GS extreme depth diver which is super thick and big , this looks like the thinner and slightly smaller version but very similar in looks and great handsome design
I just purchased a Seiko Prospex LX Antarctica spring drive. Seiko is not a back seat to other watch brands. I’ve own 3 Rolex watches FYI. Thanks for the review.
This watch was an excellent choice for a review. As always, the quality of your video footage is just stunning. As you ask which watch you should review next: There are virtually no reviews out there of the new Datejust with the olive palm dial. Although only 36mm in diameter, I would love to see a review of this watch on a men‘s wrist. Anyway, please keep up your great work, I really do appreciate it.
I have Rolex, Seiko and some Chinese homages of both. I can see the difference in the quality from top to bottom. The question you ask is one I go back and forth on - is there really thousands of dollars difference in function, finish and on the wrist? No, the only real difference I can see is resale value and that only comes into play if resale is an option.
@@jackchueh1231 Jack... I would highly recommend servicing your turtle.. you should be seeing +/- 20 seconds easily if not +/-5. The 4R35/36 really has good tolerances, especially for the cost. Good luck 👍🏼
@@jackchueh1231 you could just replace that movement with a genuine new one for less and odds are the new one will have better tolerances. You could do it yourself or take it to a watch repair guy and he shouldn't charge much to swap out the movement.
@@quentinver4330 its a MiLTAT jubilee 20mm bracelet.. purchased through amazon for about £90… greats quality strap plenty of adjustments, screwed links.
I was in between this watch and the SPB147 "63MAS" , ended up going with 147. The vintage aesthetic with lovely cappuccino sunburst dial, gilt accents and creamy lume just spoke to me. Got it in on the wrist yesterday and I absolutely love it!!!
@@leonardodavinci6625 I’m not going to argue with you my dude! But maybe do a little bit of reading and you will discover the ins and out of Seiko’s vast, and sometimes confusing lineup of watches
I got mine yesterday and i must say that i really love it. However, i have some personal issues with the bezzle... First of all, the grip of the bezzle is horrible... You have to pinch down hard to get a grip and it's slippy... And the bezzle action is just so... Unsatisfying... It almost feels like it's more klicks than 120, and it feels as if you spin a hard plastic bezzle... Other than that, the finish and quality on this watch is outstandning! Your video inspired me to buy this watch, thank you for that! Cheers!
I had both in hand, and 207 has (1) more of the Zaratsu luster, (2) crown at 4 more comfortable and feels smaller. And of the 4 62MAS the SPB145 had the best light play. I ended up buying the 207, love the emerald green, plus no Aliexpress homage can luster like a Zaratsu finish.
Great Video. Thanks, I'm tossing up between this Seiko MM200 SPB207 vs a Seiko 62Mas SPB147? What do you think Abe? Any chance you can also do a review on the SPB147 capaccino and gilt dial? Thanks! 😊
I have the SPB147 Daniel. A beautiful piece and looks great on my 6 3/4 inch wrist. A bit cheaper than the Limited Edition 207 too. Either way you can't go wrong. Enjoy your purchase.
ROLEX SM is a Jewelry. SEIKO MM200 is a Tool Watch. Value is subjective as some people equate value to the monetary cost of an item and others equate value to enjoyability and the fond memories. I live in a $500,000 house but my $50,000 childhood home will forever be special to me because of the fond memories and fun i had in that little house. Just an example
Absolutely not. The previous MM200 had Seiko's higher grade lume, which the expensive Tuna's and MM300's use. This one has the medium grade, which Turtles and Samurai's use. This video demonstrates the difference between the two grades of lume: th-cam.com/video/8dX6hiJAPRY/w-d-xo.html
I don't even know why Rolex is even mentioned but If this one is too much for your budget, the Seiko SRPD63 is a much less expensive model that will scratch that itch. Of course it's not going to be a totally equal comparison to this one but for most people I think it will work.
I don't like diver watches and I don't wear seiko's as I like to wear only one watch. But! Something about Seiko that I can't explain. I have a collection of Seiko divers.
Keen yes, I got a very nice collection of Seiko divers. Never wore them. I got baby tuna, monster, sumo. I even got one of the stealth collection. Beautiful piece. Only one piece that I have is the Malaysian, all the others are JDM models. I specifically ordered the black resin straps for all of them. My one box of 8 looks pretty cool and colorful lol. Funny thing I never got the skx.
@@mrkeeny 😂🤣 plenty of us in the same boat. I wear only one watch, that is the OP 39 white. Now I wear it on a black rubber b strap. My God! It's a beauty.
Depending on what you buying for. I went to AD to look at MM300 but ended up buying baby because it's much better daily wear (comfort, size, looks, not worrying about scratching or stolen). I love MM300 for its heft and presence (oh the ingot case) but it's really heavy and won't fit long sleeves/cuffs well. If you have MM300 money I recommend looking at LX's they are even better (spring drive) and lighter (Titanium) and even better Zaratsu finishing.
It looks like whoever is handling the watch in the video has no idea how watches work, see 5:26. They randomly change the date and leave the date in halfway in (still concerning, I can't do that with any of my Swiss or Japanese watches) and then they push the crown in. Yikes!
This is great but a modded Steel Dive is so close to this. A dial swap plus a case and screw swap and you have 62 MAS looking. Its with seiko movement and have better QC at fraction of the cost.
I really believe the SKX007 is the best dive watch Seiko has ever created and if one must, you can go sapphire and NH-36. No.2 is the Seiko Tuna 300m quartz. My opinion. P.S. the original Marine Master has more presence than this watch. Problem with the MM is its height, CG and chunkiness...still a watch with more wrist presence than the SPB207.
No doubt the MM200 is nice, but the MM300 is better! If your diving you get an extra 100m! I don’t dive in the ocean but I still Went ahead and got the MM300 140 anniversary LE. Gorgeous Seiko watch! Oh one thing about this watch, it’s also a Lume torch! 💯👍
''finishing for the price'' People underestimate Seiko. A Zaratsu case with nice brushed finishing, always boasting ABOVE the price-point. What more, get yourself 25-30% off, what more do people want from the brand? beautiful review!
@@sandsoftime3248 Me either, I don’t know where some of these watch video guys get their Seiko’s from but I’ve never experienced any misaligned bezels or inserts!
Good point. Seiko is so bad at alignment, I have a number that are aligned up top but not on the bottom. How is that even possible with a circular watch? They obviously didn't bring the bezels or chapter rings properly. Truly, they are the worst at bezel alignment, but it's an easy fix, and I love all my Seiko divers so much that I put up with their pitiful quality control.
A beautiful watch for sure, and one that I'd consider seriously if Seiko would step up and put in a decent movement. The 6R35 is so rudimentary compared to all of its Swiss competitors, that Seiko should be embarrassed to charge the prices it does for any watches using it. This watch should be priced similarly, or even a few hundred more, but the 8L35 should be inside. Considering plenty of Swiss manufacturers are charging less than half the price for ETA's 2824 or an SW200, both running at 28,800 with much nicer finishing and wholly improved accuracy, means that Seiko no longer offers anywhere near the same value proposition. Still, I want this watch. It's gorgeous. The dial is fabulous. Seiko's history is envious, even outshining most Swiss brands in this category, so I understand why Seiko fans are spending too much on what is a substandard timepiece. On that note, I might be willing to upgrade to the 300M if it wasn't so much larger (this one already right on the edge considering my identically sized 6.5-inch wrist), thanks to its 8L movement, case finishing, etc, but I wouldn't touch a 6R at this price, especially considering you can purchase extremely well made King Turtles/Samurais with the 4R in the $300 range, and it's basically the same movement with many of the upgrades offered here (the improved bezel is pretty cool though). That's my rant, I hope you don't mind. I'll be hitting up my AD to try both 200m and 300m on (they have them in stock), and might pull the trigger on the 300m if it fits. Your coverage of the watch and others is excellent. Thanks for the review!
Thank you for the video and the nice shots of the watch but the mm 200 is pretty much by itself in the seiko lineup so your end of video statement is a not so controversial and even a little flat.
Yes, exactly. So tired of "marketing" Videos void of any marine points of interest. I have used Seikos for Snorkel, and limited short dives, a long while ago Let's compare oils. with oils. The bigger version of this model with spring ratchet clasp and the 300m, that's around 15.5psi is a DIVERS watch. That being said I do have a SPB143j ~6R35 as a daily beater and love this SPB207j piece also so I'm getting it, just for the memories, 1965 & 1968~71. One point, the 6R35 ~70hr movement is OK but must be worn about 8hs a day or you may get minor loss, around 3 minutes per month. This is no deal breaker as cranking it around 30 (thumb/index turns) on the monthly correction along with the 4~5 date changes a year needed will get you back in sync with the universe. In summery it's a pretty good unpretentious tool watch, (Japan assembled /QC) with ok value for the spend. Cheers John Brisbane, Australia.
The hands are half brushed and half polished and the insert isn't ceramic it's coated aluminum. And I don't even know why Rolex was even mentioned lol.
@@phillippugh2161 true, but the MM300 is like a thousand dollars more expensive than the MM200. While you are getting a lot more watch with that price increase, not everyone can justify that when the MM200 itself is already a really good watch and arguably not very affordable to many people
@@tritran2783 I here on that, those 62 mas watches are great value . The Capt Willard is another great watch for the money. Heck even there 4r divers are great value for under 6 hundred
Omg, one of the most beauty watch I have ever seen. I'm sure I will buy this next week. Thank you.
Your perspective is very refreshing. I have both the blue and green dial. My coworker let me have his at a great price. The MM200 is definitely a solid construction compared to the 62mas. But for what they both offer, the MM200 really does bring more to the table. You just feel like you’re getting more for your money!
Many dive watch out there will make you question the value of a Submariner.
Outstanding video review on this beautiful Seiko diver . I own the SBDC033 Sumo/Blumo and as of now to me the best affordable Seiko diver . Honestly though this new MM200 has definitely caught my eye and am seriously considering buying this watch 👍🏻💯
Man the size is perfect. Imma have to save up for this one. Great video btw.
Extra nice watch, thanks for this video... the qualty of the images stunnig.
Awesome watch. I bought one and can’t recommended it enough
The bezel insert is ss coated with titanium carbide. Another of seiko's ingenuity. Looks like ceramic but won't crack like ceramic, so, it's better.
Not really, the carbide scratches more easily
@@neitusp8546 not sure if TiC scratches easily. Mine ( on my mm200 and 62mas) are only a few months old, so don't know yet, but, they sure look good.
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
@@odarpxela l am not sure what material is used on the GS diver sbga231 and the sla017. They look like ceramic but is actually some kind of harden coating too. I have them for a few years now and so far no scratches. As they don't crack, it's a proper tool.
They could be tungsten carbide coating as they cost more. Just guessing 😅. Anyway, the Cermet bezel insert used on some of the LX divers is another admirable innovation.
Love it! Ordered it! Nice review
Correction: bezel insert is NOT ceramic
Nice video my friend. Subscribed :-)
I own a Submariner, (nutty price these days. I wouldn't even consider one now), a Speedmaster and a number of other high end divers and watches...but took possession of one of these just last week.
So, I'd say this... If you are thinking of buying one of these because your budget doesn't hit the upper end or because you just think it is a great looking watch that totally fits the bill and are looking for something of real quality but without going crazy...then this is the watch for you. It looks super smart, has real wrist presence and a feeling of real quality. The green face looks the absolute biz ;) Looks even better 'in person' than on screen. Totally recommended fellas!
At 58 and having had, a few Seiko Divers including the original 150m, Diver, now the (SPB207j & varients) I can only say this. I have had the cash to blow on a Rolex in the past and present , never bothered and put the funds into my favourite charity the HSI. If I see another pompous desk diving Boomer Git with their Rolex I'll scream from my dive pontoon like Albert Finney in movie "Network". Hate, Hate, Hate the hole idealogy and bullshit commerce spin that is ROLEX. Always a smile with a Seiko on your dial. Seasons greetings from Queensland among the Mantarays. 🐬🐳🦈.
@@johnhayes5820 Very funny John ;) Loving the Albert Finney reference too. (Do watch 'Miller's Crossing' if you've not seen it). Just don't mention the cricket...
Ganz großes Kino, sehr schöne Bilder, Klasse.
Ich habe mir die grüne gebraucht gekauft, Hammer Uhr.
Danke.
Seiko has killer options including the Willard. Sometimes the only reason Rolex is better is due to the "resale" value and people making thousands of dollars when flipping. Great video love this MM 😍
Arrrrrrr but what about Seikos killer down falls that no one fails to mention.
@@marcocastagnetti7086 like what? Besides what as fans or enthusiast we don't already accept or acknowledge?
I'm not even sure that Rolexes are better resale-wise. Not too many Rolexes are worth two or three - or even ten - times their original street price within a few years of being discontinued. But that's the situation for a number of Seiko cult classics.
Just to go off of some watches in my collection: I have an SNK807 (2nd gen black monster) which I bought new on Amazon for $150; now it's probably worth $450 used. Also have an SKXA35 (US market yellow dial SKX), which I bought for about $280 from my local dealer, now that's worth about $600
And I have an SNKM95 (red dial Amazon exclusive SNK), $50 from Amazon, which had been selling on eBay for a crazy $500-ish lately (though I haven't seen any for a few months). Not ever Seiko goes like that - certainly not watches as popular as the SKX007 - but it does happen to a fair number of the more limited or exclusive entry to mid-range models.
Excellent video, AB!
I just picked this watch up 2nd hand at a killer deal, It's so comfortable on wrist. I Love it. It's now part of my permanent collection!
How much did you pay for it?
That green dial is just sublime!
Very balanced assessment. Watches are now an item of jewellery as for most people their mobile phone tells the time and more accurately. So for reasonable timing keeping and looking the part you can’t get much better than this Seiko. I had 2 Rolex watches over the years and they kept lousy time. Mind you I wish I had them now as I could pay off my mortgage:) Crazy 😜
Great review and awsome watch. Seiko is pushing value. Especially at the 1k price point. I would love to see you review the SPB237 vintage Willard.
Greetings from Germany
Great spot on review of the 207. I had to added it along side my SRPE05 "King Turtle" and SPB191 "Shogun". #Seikofan #Seikoholic
The footage here is miles better than other reviews I've seen of this piece. It actually holds up against a sub!
I got mine a month ago and agree totally.
If you factor in function-driven purpose, every Seiko diver is far superior to the Submariner. Good highlight and perspective, thanks!
this is very handsome watch and looks similar to a Grand Seiko Diver i saw at Craigshipp's channel. this has very angular handsome lugs which are even better than samurai and i realise samurai is actually quite BIG regrettably. this version looks much like the GS extreme depth diver which is super thick and big , this looks like the thinner and slightly smaller version but very similar in looks and great handsome design
I just purchased a Seiko Prospex LX Antarctica spring drive. Seiko is not a back seat to other watch brands. I’ve own 3 Rolex watches FYI. Thanks for the review.
I bought the blue dial, the watch is very nice.
This watch was an excellent choice for a review. As always, the quality of your video footage is just stunning.
As you ask which watch you should review next: There are virtually no reviews out there of the new Datejust with the olive palm dial. Although only 36mm in diameter, I would love to see a review of this watch on a men‘s wrist. Anyway, please keep up your great work, I really do appreciate it.
I have Rolex, Seiko and some Chinese homages of both. I can see the difference in the quality from top to bottom. The question you ask is one I go back and forth on - is there really thousands of dollars difference in function, finish and on the wrist? No, the only real difference I can see is resale value and that only comes into play if resale is an option.
It's called the law of diminishing returns.
My seiko pepsi turtle can't keep time worth snot. such a shame as I have on such a nice crafter blue strap.
@@jackchueh1231 Jack... I would highly recommend servicing your turtle.. you should be seeing +/- 20 seconds easily if not +/-5. The 4R35/36 really has good tolerances, especially for the cost. Good luck 👍🏼
@@chrisb5917 You’re probably right but I just can’t get myself to spend $200 to service a $300 watch
@@jackchueh1231 you could just replace that movement with a genuine new one for less and odds are the new one will have better tolerances. You could do it yourself or take it to a watch repair guy and he shouldn't charge much to swap out the movement.
Great watch & review! The MM200 would surely work great with a glossy ink black dial, or as a pepsi variant. Maybe in 2022?
Great rewiew! Totaly agree!
How does the spb143 compare? These two are on my short list.
I also have a minimal collection and I chose MM200 reduced to be my one and only dive watch.
I have the SPB185 with the black dial and steel bezel. I often reach for it over my Tudor Black Bay and Oris Aquis.
I have the mm200 PADI and put it on a jubilee bracelet.. looks so good !
I have the padi as well, where did you get your bracelet? How heavy is the bracelet?
@@quentinver4330 its a MiLTAT jubilee 20mm bracelet.. purchased through amazon for about £90… greats quality strap plenty of adjustments, screwed links.
@@quentinver4330 oh the strap not to heavy 😀
I was in between this watch and the SPB147 "63MAS" , ended up going with 147. The vintage aesthetic with lovely cappuccino sunburst dial, gilt accents and creamy lume just spoke to me. Got it in on the wrist yesterday and I absolutely love it!!!
That would be my pick from the series. They've just released a new version which looks the same as the 147, but isn't. Strange.
That's not 63 MAs. Seiko made real 63MaS recently
@@leonardodavinci6625 I’m not going to argue with you my dude! But maybe do a little bit of reading and you will discover the ins and out of Seiko’s vast, and sometimes confusing lineup of watches
Is the bezel different from the other variants of these models?
I got mine yesterday and i must say that i really love it. However, i have some personal issues with the bezzle... First of all, the grip of the bezzle is horrible... You have to pinch down hard to get a grip and it's slippy... And the bezzle action is just so... Unsatisfying... It almost feels like it's more klicks than 120, and it feels as if you spin a hard plastic bezzle... Other than that, the finish and quality on this watch is outstandning! Your video inspired me to buy this watch, thank you for that! Cheers!
I have this one and I'm in love with it. But the bezel is not ceramic friend.
Hello
What about spb143?
Did I miss your decision on whether you are going to eject the Sub or not ?
The second hand is from the Captain Willard Seiko.
i bought one from them and they were great
This and the spb143 are their best mid tier. I personally like the blue dial version but this color is nice too.
Thank you for the excellent review. You say you're a minimalist as a collector. What is your watch total or ideal total?
Hi Jeff, perhaps 4 would be more than perfect. That is my current line up
@@watchcollectingstrategy sounds perfect. Thanks
I have the 143 that I picked up from Exquisite but this one is tempting.
Same here, the dial is money.
i do prefer the SPB143 same money
I sold my 114060 - along with 2 other Rolexes. All Seikos now. SPB317 is my go-to, looking at the MM200...
Great watch, great review.
How would you compare it to the SPB 143?
I had both in hand, and 207 has (1) more of the Zaratsu luster, (2) crown at 4 more comfortable and feels smaller. And of the 4 62MAS the SPB145 had the best light play. I ended up buying the 207, love the emerald green, plus no Aliexpress homage can luster like a Zaratsu finish.
My grail GS diver is the high beat sbgh255 titanium diver that is the one I'd take it over any sub but it's not cheap $10k but soooo worth it
Great Video. Thanks, I'm tossing up between this Seiko MM200 SPB207 vs a Seiko 62Mas SPB147? What do you think Abe? Any chance you can also do a review on the SPB147 capaccino and gilt dial? Thanks! 😊
I have the SPB147 Daniel. A beautiful piece and looks great on my 6 3/4 inch wrist. A bit cheaper than the Limited Edition 207 too. Either way you can't go wrong. Enjoy your purchase.
Whats the model number of the blue dial?
Beautiful piece for sure but how is it different from the SBDC133 ?
That was the SBDC133. Same watch, just different naming convention for international markets.
Other Seikos for review. A Seiko Sumo in that 6R35. Maybe a King Samurai or King Turtle.
ROLEX SM is a Jewelry.
SEIKO MM200 is a Tool Watch.
Value is subjective as some people equate value to the monetary cost of an item and others equate value to enjoyability and the fond memories.
I live in a $500,000 house but my $50,000 childhood home will forever be special to me because of the fond memories and fun i had in that little house. Just an example
Very nice watch. I still don't like that they got rid of the name Marinemaster though.
Big fan of SPB143 as well
Me too, I have the SPB149 and it is a keeper.
PRO SPECS = PROSPEX. How hard is it?
Is this bezel ceramic? Hasnt the blue dial variant also the same bezel as this one? Im confused
No, not a ceramic. He is wrong
Can you review grand seiko sbga231???
Is it really the best Seiko diver yet? Though the closeup doesn't seem to lie
Absolutely not. The previous MM200 had Seiko's higher grade lume, which the expensive Tuna's and MM300's use. This one has the medium grade, which Turtles and Samurai's use.
This video demonstrates the difference between the two grades of lume:
th-cam.com/video/8dX6hiJAPRY/w-d-xo.html
What is the thickness?
I don't even know why Rolex is even mentioned but If this one is too much for your budget, the Seiko SRPD63 is a much less expensive model that will scratch that itch. Of course it's not going to be a totally equal comparison to this one but for most people I think it will work.
Great review 👏. I thought u said this watch is 1000.00 ???. Exquisite timepieces has it for 1350.00. Ray
Date wheel at 307sec?
Why not SPB143? Seems to be a bit better design to take the place of a sub.
Think that’s just a matter of opinion hahaha both are amazing watches.
Every single thing written on this channel or on comments is a matter of opinion. That’s the point. Cheers.
Where are these sold?
I don't like diver watches and I don't wear seiko's as I like to wear only one watch. But! Something about Seiko that I can't explain. I have a collection of Seiko divers.
Keen yes, I got a very nice collection of Seiko divers. Never wore them. I got baby tuna, monster, sumo. I even got one of the stealth collection. Beautiful piece. Only one piece that I have is the Malaysian, all the others are JDM models. I specifically ordered the black resin straps for all of them. My one box of 8 looks pretty cool and colorful lol. Funny thing I never got the skx.
@@mrkeeny 😂🤣 plenty of us in the same boat. I wear only one watch, that is the OP 39 white. Now I wear it on a black rubber b strap. My God! It's a beauty.
Would you get this one or the 300 priced at $2700 brand new
Depending on what you buying for. I went to AD to look at MM300 but ended up buying baby because it's much better daily wear (comfort, size, looks, not worrying about scratching or stolen). I love MM300 for its heft and presence (oh the ingot case) but it's really heavy and won't fit long sleeves/cuffs well. If you have MM300 money I recommend looking at LX's they are even better (spring drive) and lighter (Titanium) and even better Zaratsu finishing.
Great watch but 🤔 the PADI 62MAS HOLDS THAT TITLE IMHO
2:55 lovely watch, BUT the question is, why is the date changing a 3h55??
It looks like whoever is handling the watch in the video has no idea how watches work, see 5:26.
They randomly change the date and leave the date in halfway in (still concerning, I can't do that with any of my Swiss or Japanese watches) and then they push the crown in. Yikes!
@@CorkKNIFE ouch that was painful to watch!
Beauty
This is great but a modded Steel Dive is so close to this. A dial swap plus a case and screw swap and you have 62 MAS looking. Its with seiko movement and have better QC at fraction of the cost.
The lume at 3 o clock makes the dial look offset.
Unfortunately it’s a condition to receive ISO6425 certification.
I really believe the SKX007 is the best dive watch Seiko has ever created and if one must, you can go sapphire and NH-36. No.2 is the Seiko Tuna 300m quartz.
My opinion.
P.S. the original Marine Master has more presence than this watch. Problem with the MM is its height, CG and chunkiness...still a watch with more wrist presence than the SPB207.
i find the SKX design too kiddish
No doubt the MM200 is nice, but the MM300 is better! If your diving you get an extra 100m! I don’t dive in the ocean but I still
Went ahead and got the MM300 140 anniversary LE. Gorgeous Seiko watch! Oh one thing about this watch, it’s also a Lume torch! 💯👍
I have the same with bleu dial
It's very nice... But I'll stick with my Seiko SPB143
''finishing for the price'' People underestimate Seiko. A Zaratsu case with nice brushed finishing, always boasting ABOVE the price-point. What more, get yourself 25-30% off, what more do people want from the brand? beautiful review!
How about a bezel that is aligned.
@@atl3630 Never experienced a misaligned bezel.
@@sandsoftime3248 Me either, I don’t know where some of these watch video guys get their Seiko’s from but I’ve never experienced any misaligned bezels or inserts!
Good point. Seiko is so bad at alignment, I have a number that are aligned up top but not on the bottom. How is that even possible with a circular watch? They obviously didn't bring the bezels or chapter rings properly. Truly, they are the worst at bezel alignment, but it's an easy fix, and I love all my Seiko divers so much that I put up with their pitiful quality control.
This or SPB381J1?
A beautiful watch for sure, and one that I'd consider seriously if Seiko would step up and put in a decent movement. The 6R35 is so rudimentary compared to all of its Swiss competitors, that Seiko should be embarrassed to charge the prices it does for any watches using it. This watch should be priced similarly, or even a few hundred more, but the 8L35 should be inside. Considering plenty of Swiss manufacturers are charging less than half the price for ETA's 2824 or an SW200, both running at 28,800 with much nicer finishing and wholly improved accuracy, means that Seiko no longer offers anywhere near the same value proposition. Still, I want this watch. It's gorgeous. The dial is fabulous. Seiko's history is envious, even outshining most Swiss brands in this category, so I understand why Seiko fans are spending too much on what is a substandard timepiece. On that note, I might be willing to upgrade to the 300M if it wasn't so much larger (this one already right on the edge considering my identically sized 6.5-inch wrist), thanks to its 8L movement, case finishing, etc, but I wouldn't touch a 6R at this price, especially considering you can purchase extremely well made King Turtles/Samurais with the 4R in the $300 range, and it's basically the same movement with many of the upgrades offered here (the improved bezel is pretty cool though). That's my rant, I hope you don't mind. I'll be hitting up my AD to try both 200m and 300m on (they have them in stock), and might pull the trigger on the 300m if it fits. Your coverage of the watch and others is excellent. Thanks for the review!
Cost?
6 BPS is kind of a let down.
LOL Bezel insert is not ceramic, it's stainless steel coated with black titanium carbon in a glossy finishing.
What's your wrist size
it looks a bit weird without crown guards?
Thank you for the video and the nice shots of the watch but the mm 200 is pretty much by itself in the seiko lineup so your end of video statement is a not so controversial and even a little flat.
I have yet to meet one person with a dive watch that actually dives in water or does any type of water sports more than a couple of times a year.
surely the ocean must be hundreds of miles away from where you reside
Yes, exactly. So tired of "marketing" Videos void of any marine points of interest. I have used Seikos for Snorkel, and limited short dives, a long while ago Let's compare oils. with oils. The bigger version of this model with spring ratchet clasp and the 300m, that's around 15.5psi is a DIVERS watch. That being said I do have a SPB143j ~6R35 as a daily beater and love this SPB207j piece also so I'm getting it, just for the memories, 1965 & 1968~71. One point, the 6R35 ~70hr movement is OK but must be worn about 8hs a day or you may get minor loss, around 3 minutes per month. This is no deal breaker as cranking it around 30 (thumb/index turns) on the monthly correction along with the 4~5 date changes a year needed will get you back in sync with the universe. In summery it's a pretty good unpretentious tool watch, (Japan assembled /QC) with ok value for the spend. Cheers John Brisbane, Australia.
The 21600 bph just doesn't excite me.
You got the model wrong in your title
rolex dealers really screw the customer. i went with OMEGA
can you imagine how many people whom buying dive watches buy never dive 😁 ... at the end, just buy & wear what ever you like
For a cool grand, yeah...it had better be a nice watch.
Thats a bargain for this watch
If you say so!....lol
They made a blunder by putting a lumed marker on the path of the minute indices next to the date window.
Should have called ot a Grand Seiko.
But then it’d be the same price as the rolex sub, so no longer an “affordable alternative” anymore
The hands are half brushed and half polished and the insert isn't ceramic it's coated aluminum. And I don't even know why Rolex was even mentioned lol.
Dude stop saying "to be honest". You say it waaaaay too much in all of your videos. Other than that great content bro. Keep it up!
I am hanging on to my Sept '79 6309 704L t owned, worn on and off since 1980
Bezel isn't ceramic. It's coated aluminium.
Sure, better than a MM300 ! 🤣🤣🤣
actually, that watch looks huge on your wrist
Get its bigger brother MM300, the movement is made by Grand Seiko and monobloc case
The 8L movement is a beast
Costs one hell of a lot more though
@@tritran2783 yeah but your getting Rolex quality for thousands less
@@phillippugh2161 true, but the MM300 is like a thousand dollars more expensive than the MM200. While you are getting a lot more watch with that price increase, not everyone can justify that when the MM200 itself is already a really good watch and arguably not very affordable to many people
@@tritran2783 I here on that, those 62 mas watches are great value . The Capt Willard is another great watch for the money. Heck even there 4r divers are great value for under 6 hundred