Is Chemical Fertilizer Bad For Soil? (Soil Microbes & Soil Life)

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  • @ObaidahNaseer
    @ObaidahNaseer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very interesting and holistic approach. Nature is a great teacher; certainly has been for permaculture.

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We couldn't agree more! 💚🌱🌎

  • @thrivingyard
    @thrivingyard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Excellent deep dive into soil health. Love these guys.

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you 🌿💚

    • @anth115
      @anth115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@JohnandBobsin a video you made 9 years ago you said Chem fert damages soil. In this video you say no when used in moderation
      I still use my fav Chem fertilizer in thr spring but with building the soil. Looking forward to using blend on my lawn this year.

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anth115 You are correct. Over the last 10years my opinion about the strengths/weaknesses of synthetic fertilizer has evolved. Thank you for watching our videos!

    • @anth115
      @anth115 ปีที่แล้ว

      @JohnandBobs thanks for sharing your updated views it makes sense. Many people arnt willing to update their views. I appreciate this video

  • @bang2subekti
    @bang2subekti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In my country +62 using inorganic fertilizer have been frequent and continualy debate wether is good or bad.... And I agree with you that the first most important thing to do is by developing and enriching life microorganism in the soil plus proper inorganic fertilizer usage ocationaly as a stimulant to promote beter growth and yield...it's definitly wise advisory and good reference thank you...

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, you are spot on! You're welcome, thanks for watching :)

  • @ianmackenzie686
    @ianmackenzie686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice, honest review. I always thought: If the synthetic fertilizers are as bad as the organic hustlers say, they'd be highly regulated if not restricted. I admit, I fell for their lucrative propaganda without seeing superior results in my lawn.
    These days I'll use a mix, about 70-30 Scott's to local organic hucksters. Keeps costs down and realistic results. And of course, I always attempt to use as directed.

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like the term “Organic Hustlers” haha! Sounds like a good regimen, I can’t argue with successful results. Thanks for the comment :)

    • @barco581
      @barco581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I am all for organics, but when you add up the cost of feeding a lawn 100% organically it gets super expensive. And when the heat hits look out.

  • @terryeichler351
    @terryeichler351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank You for the honest explanation of chemical fertilizers. The foundation for gardening is to Feed the Soil Not the Plants.
    Mother Nature knows what she is doing and we can learn from her not to damage the growth of the garden by using chemical fertilizers judiciously and by focusing on building the soil always.

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Mother Nature knows what she is doing" Couldn't have said it better myself! I find in many aspects of life it's easier to follow Mother Nature rather than fight her and pretend we know better 💚🌿🌻

    • @Promilus1984
      @Promilus1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sure she does but it takes her a long time to get something we find optimal (loamy soil). Cautious, balanced usage of synthetic fertilizers can result in both great soil and productivity otherwise unachievable by just what Mother Nature gives us. When using synth fertilizers it's important to use it as a diet supplement rather than main dish. That one has to be organic. Either parts of the plants we discard at harvest time or some cover crops we plant after harvest.

  • @David-gj3jm
    @David-gj3jm หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really like your video John, it was very helpful

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @brendahansen5982
    @brendahansen5982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the information. We have just recently found your products and are awaiting our first delivery to apply to newly installed fescue sod in compacted red clay soil. We have only been in this house for 3 years and have experienced horrible runoff. Looking forward to using the product. And seeing these weekly videos.

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad it was helpful! Keep us posted on how your soil drainage changes with the use of our products :)

  • @sugarbomb26
    @sugarbomb26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a brilliantly informative video John. I just love your channel and listen eagerly to every word. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and years of wisdom. I have not used any chemical fertilizers in my garden and 2 year old vegetable garden. I wood chipped the entire area and we now have mushrooms appearing everywhere! The soil which was overrun with grubs, now has only a handful and is teaming with earthworms. In in north east NJ btw. Each fall, I collect my own oak leaves, mulch them and mix then with some native soil and leave it to decompose over the winter and this has added so much humus to my heavy clay soil making it lighter each year. I do not have slug pressure on my vegetables, no aphids either. The only thing I battle with is the squirrels, but they can never be outdone:)

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your gardening practices are state of the art and much more than organic or trendy, they are sustainable and effective. I'm impressed! And thank you for the kind words, so glad you like our videos :)

  • @bluejay3945
    @bluejay3945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Not bad for a brief discussion.
    Let’s start by saying that for the most part every soil on the planet has the necessary nutrients to grow plants but not necessarily the soil biology to convert those elements into plant food. The usual reason is a lack of soil microbial life and adequate organic matter.
    Unfortunately we have been sold the bs that the only thing plants need is NPK. I think the last time I checked there were 42 elements verified for plant health
    If you buy into the simplistic view of NPK and synthetic formulations you have basically bought into bs. The vast majority of people are not going to test their soil to identify any weaknesses so 20-10-20 sounds as good as 10-10-20 especially when the price is factored in. Couple that with, in my experience, people do not know how much fertilizer they are applying and assume that they should either use the whole bag or multiple bags to cover their property
    I blame big box stores for making these high NPK options easy to get. As a result my state has banned any fertilizer with phosphorus because of misuse and to nail that point I have never had a soil test yield a phosphorus deficiency. So 10-10-10 or 8-2-6 is a total waste of time and money and extremely bad for the environment
    The only advantage of synthetic is you have better control addressing a macronutrient deficiency and in my opinion that’s the only benefit. You can dial in a synthetic fertilizer application to fix a deficiency where you cannot do that with an organic and you can do harm as a result by adding way too much organic. Millorganite which is carried by the big box stores and touted as organic is a good example. First Milo has 4% phosphorus and as I have said you typically do not need any phosphorus. Second people over apply Milo thinking it’s doesn’t harm anything except that turf will not absorb excess fertilizer. It will leach out
    If you really want to see the benefits of a totally organic program start in the fall with top dressing your turf and ornamental beds with a good quality fungally dominated compost and a good quality non dyed mulch in your ornamental beds.
    Buy a good quality organic fertilizer for the year. I like microlife out of Texas and apply humic acid and kelp through out the year. Liquid application is best. Add different compost sources to your veggie garden, ornamental beds, turf etc such as quality worm castings, leaf compost, etc All of which will make a world of difference
    Finally you hit on a great point. I think adding amino acids is a game changer. Kelp4less makes an Extreme Blend bio stimulant that is unbelievable. And if you want to add a fish emulsion product to your repertoire do not buy the gallon jug crap from the big box stores as the heat processing renders that product almost useless. Buy the cold pressed fish product from Vitallanscaping.com that preserves all the aminos and oils from the fish
    You are absolutely right. If you use synthetics and maintain a bacteria dominated soil we all lose. Fungally dominated soils require less water, are less likely to produce disease, and fungi sequester so much more carbon dioxide. It’s all good
    Stop being sold the NPK only mantra and call your local county extension service if you are confused. Don’t let the guy with the tattoos and wearing the orange apron at the big box store turn your property into a lifeless wasteland

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nicely put and throughly detailed! Mother Nature has all the necessary things to make your plants thrive, we just have to help her out sometimes, especially if we've been piling on the chemical products. 💚🌻

    • @Fajita.tamale
      @Fajita.tamale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pretty much every synthetic fertilizer has trace minerals, otherwise you can add sea90 like we do in the ag industry. I think humic acid, fish hydrolysate, all that stuff is invaluable and only comes from organics. But for the most part actual elements are covered beyond NPK already.

    • @666bruv
      @666bruv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fajita.tamale "pretty much every synthetic fertiliser has trace minerals" a queer quote to put out there. Urea doesn't, otherwise, sulphur is a carrier with P and K. MOP has sodium, which can be disastrous for plants. Plants cannot absorb trace elements from the soil under a chemical fertiliser management regime

    • @Fajita.tamale
      @Fajita.tamale 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@666bruv they can absorb the ‘sea 90’ product, that’s what the chemical farmers i know use

    • @Fajita.tamale
      @Fajita.tamale 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@666bruv also Chemgro, and masterblend salt fertilizers include stuff like boron copper manganese molybdenum zinc. Those are trace elements. The sea 90 has 20% less sodium chloride than sea salt and that 20% is replaced with the entire middle portion of the periodic table, hence the name sea 90, 90 trace elements contained in the salt product.

  • @jessicaSmash
    @jessicaSmash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been searching for an answer to this question- one that focuses on reality and not a religious-like doctrine according to one’s ideology. I’ve been trying to build garden soil microbiology while also using occasional fertilizer as needed.

  • @jovansworld_
    @jovansworld_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only when I tried self sufficient living did I appreciate my father(soil scientist).

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your father must be a very cool guy!

  • @JohnandBobs
    @JohnandBobs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What is your experience with chemical fertilizers? Do you achieve the lasting results you are after? Let us know in the comments :)

    • @leemikle2242
      @leemikle2242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Live near a farm and they dry the cow manure the liquid gets pumped to waste, but the solids are dryed and heated to extreme temps to kill the bacteria so they can reuse it as bedding in the barn. Was considering using a bunch and spreading it across my yard to see any positive or negative results. Thoughts?

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leemikle2242 I'm not familiar with that process. Properly and fully composted cow manure is good to use. I would be careful with it and if you want to experiment, do it in a small area.

    • @ecm958
      @ecm958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tend to think synthetic fertilizer is good for plants but not soil. My homemade compost has been the best soil amendment so far. I applied my 4 soil amendments from John and Bob's just last week. I'm excited and hopeful about this. My soil is impenetrable clay in places.

    • @barco581
      @barco581 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess it depends on one's goals. Organics are the base of our programs for our gardens. The previous fall is super important with regards to adding organic matter. Feeding the soil and developing it is the most important thing for long term success. Now, that being said, you can only feed the soil so much. The latest university studies show the highest yields come from a combination of organic and synthetic fertilizers. When you get cold fronts, heat waves, days with no sun, plants under fruit load stress, etc, synthetics are key for immediate nutrient uptake. Nice to see someone on here saying that if used correctly and in small doses synthetic fertilizers do not damage the soil. And I know from repeated soil and tissue tests of our plants.

  • @katespencer4038
    @katespencer4038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just discovered ur channel. Thank u 4 this information I try to do as much organically as possible because I know its best 4 plants and the bugs I try to encourage however usually near end of growing season I have to use a chemical fertilizer and always feel guilty. I will be looking up ur products. Thank you

  • @charlestessier7843
    @charlestessier7843 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Chemical fertilizer is okay, PROVIDED , it’s used ONCE IN A WHILE . But people have a habit
    of only looking at the immediate and near future , at least a number of folks . Another weakness of chemical fertilizer is the potential of applying too much of one element . Looking at the N P K on the label attests to that. Making your own compost is the best way to go if you know how to get it done . Much better in the long run.

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  ปีที่แล้ว

      All correct, although we offer a convenient, effective, affordable alternative to making your own compost. Making high quality compost in any quantity would need to be a hobby and very time consuming. For those who don't want to make composting their hobby, but value soil quality, our products are excellent!

  • @markhammett5072
    @markhammett5072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great information 👍......I enjoyed the vid.

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching! 🌱

  • @robhtp3817
    @robhtp3817 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about trying to get rid of giant stem weeds through lawn to make way for desert scape? 90% of front lawn is weeds. I’ve cut them with law mower now how do I get rid of them for good? Again, going for desert scape look. Thanks J&B. I’m following your regimen for keeping my backyard look good & green & so far so good.
    ~ Rob

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  ปีที่แล้ว

      Please send me a photo (customersevice@johnandbobs.com) and I'll tell you the best way to eradicate your problem weed. Also include if you want to stick to organic solutions or are ok using a chemical. - John

  • @lordandpomeroy
    @lordandpomeroy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My whole backyard is weed infested like your video at 6:37 min. Not to mention gopher & mole wholes everywhere. I just came across this Vid. I’m a new fan & subscriber. Where do I begin to repair my soil so I can grow beautiful grass & plants in time for my daughters 13th bday party 6 months from now? I live in the Inland Empire, Southern California 50 miles east of Los Angeles? HELP HELP HELP!!!

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Send me a few photos of your lawn and I'll provide recommendations to make it into a beautiful lawn! Send the photos to customerservice@johnandbobs.com Glad to have you in the J&B fam 😊💚🌱

  • @bubblesmckenzie4125
    @bubblesmckenzie4125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's true, my tomatoes and coneflowers had stunted leaves

  • @rachelmay4219
    @rachelmay4219 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much! This was great

  • @steveniannelli2756
    @steveniannelli2756 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What liquids/products do u use to make a fungal soil biology that controls weeds? I have weed issues in an orchard and don't want to use roundup

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The best weed control utilizing soil biology is achieved by creating fungally dominated soil with complex soil life.

    • @steveniannelli2756
      @steveniannelli2756 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What do u recommend to use?​@JohnandBobs

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can be specific w/ size of your areas and what you are growing. Generally, use our Blend (www.johnandbobs.com/products/blend), Penetrate Liquid Biotiller (www.johnandbobs.com/products/penetrate), and Nourish Biosol (www.johnandbobs.com/products/nourish) or similar living compost like products.

  • @josephcutler8870
    @josephcutler8870 ปีที่แล้ว

    The issue with chemical fertilizer aside from over use in a application and is the depletion of organic matter in the soil. Chemical Pest and fungicide are damaging to both beneficial and non beneficial and thats a problem

  • @sufiblade
    @sufiblade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful! Thank you

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome! Thanks for watching 😊

  • @steveelkins52
    @steveelkins52 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are soil scientists that have channels on youtube that might help you better understand soil microbiology

  • @rajarishibhattacharyya80
    @rajarishibhattacharyya80 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Judicious use of chemical fertilizer can improve both soil and plant health. So intregrated fertilizer management is need of the hour.

  • @berrymay2708
    @berrymay2708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't tell what time it is I'm somebody just rubbish it out on my phone hear from one of those laptops

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say.....but thanks for watching & commenting! haha :)

  • @Moondoggy1941
    @Moondoggy1941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:18 My backyard looks like that it used to be a lush garden then we had a severe drought and we were told no lawns in the backyard, so I want to start to garden instead, so I am part one, I have been weed whacking for at least two months just to knock them down, so any first tips?

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      First get rid of the weeds, then plant the plants you want and add our Blend product (or other organic inputs that are similar like compost). After that add a layer of mulch over the top to help prevent new weeds from coming back.

  • @stuartmacdonald5729
    @stuartmacdonald5729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will sun hemp nitrogen be good for commercial blueberries

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sunn Hemp is a good cover crop that stores nitrogen in its root nodules and releases it to crops when it is incorporated into the soil. However it requires quite a bit of nitrogen to grow and thrive. It is beneficial as a cover crop for many, many plants; however I'm not aware of any special significance for blueberries.

  • @bubblesmckenzie4125
    @bubblesmckenzie4125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We love you don't worry. 👀❤️

  • @johndough1264
    @johndough1264 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Are chemical fertilizers bad for soil biology?” “Yes they are.” The continued need to reapply biology is proof they are bad. One of the best things about organic growing is the ability to add less and less over time. If your growing food crops the other benefit is high brix and high nutrient density compared to salt grown crops.

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly! Chemical fertilizers get you hooked in a never ending loop of having to reapply what your soil should be producing itself.

    • @johndough1264
      @johndough1264 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JohnandBobs but as you say biology plus chemicals equals less chemicals and water usage. For me ideally a garden will feed itself and need little care. Nutrient dense input equals nutrient dense output.

  • @steveevans1841
    @steveevans1841 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 2:33 I was prepared to stop watching; however, I was interested in whether you were going to change direction and present a more truthful video, and yes you did, (3:25 you’re getting down to the truth.) Thank You.
    2:33 wrong answer. “If you are planting into the dirt (dead soil) it may be beneficial at the start” would be more correct. Using the right compost, one should be able to wean off chemical fertilizers. See Dr. David Johnson on TH-cam. Dr. Elaine Ingham and Dr. Christine Jones are also brilliant scientists on the subject of soil microbiology and regeneration.
    I tried to grow tomatoes and garlic, used chemical fertilizers to start, and they grew a bit then they all died, tried garlic in biologically enhanced soil and all have grown beyond my expectation, yes you are correct, it is all about soil with the proper microbiologically.
    Glad I watched it till the end
    Steve

  • @mayrarios8442
    @mayrarios8442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I prefer to use organic products, I see a lot of insects in the soil, when I used chemical fertilizers, I didn't see any life in the soil, so I think if it kills all life in the soil, I wonder what it does to us? who eat what comes out of chemical treated fertilizers. 🤔 I want healthy soil for my belly

    • @mayrarios8442
      @mayrarios8442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      & weeds don't bother me..

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  ปีที่แล้ว

      Organic really is best, especially when growing food to eat! The more lively the soil, the less chemicals are needed. 🌱☺️

  • @Mountainrock70
    @Mountainrock70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was there synthetic chemical fertilizers in the “Garden of Eden.” No there was not.

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hah! ..And none in this garden either! 😊🙏🌱

  • @fredpierce6097
    @fredpierce6097 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In our Age Of 30 Second Soundbites, most folks have been pre-conditioned to seek the remedies put forth by the advertising of the Chemical Industry. Unfortunately for the impatient and gullible consumers, the Devil Is In The Details and true understanding comes from personal effort in seeking out more appropriate measures as recommended by this TH-camr and his methodology. One must have the wisdom and patience to seek lasting results rather than the quick fixes for sale that are piled up in countless bags at Lowe’s or Home Depot….

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Fred, we couldn't agree more!
      Our goal is to encourage people to truly transform their soil for good - then they won't ever have to look toward chemically based short term "solutions."

  • @moonsharn
    @moonsharn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get a microscope and have a look at them for yourself. They absolutely do die very shortly after application.

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, that is the case for many popular weed killers, pesticides & assorted synthetic garden additives- but not for occasional, properly proportioned synthetic macro & micro nutrients. 🌱🦠

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, that is the case for many popular weed killers, pesticides and assorted synthetic garden additives. BUT, not for occasional,
      properly proportioned synthetic macro & micro nutrients! 🌱🦠👍

  • @gabedeweese3476
    @gabedeweese3476 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    😷if ur focused on building microbiology ur not gonna use synthetics😭

    • @JohnandBobs
      @JohnandBobs  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is partially true! As mentioned in this video, if you follow the label and rarely use it only when absolutely necessary it doesn't harm microbiology. But you are correct, generally we want to avoid any sort of synthetic products! 💚