It’s nice that also agrees every character is viable. Frankly, I haven’t even found a main yet, whenever I play regular smash I’m almost always choosing random. Not *every* character feels great to me, but a lot do
I definitely like the Bowser play here. The start of games 1 and 2 were just really unfortunate, and being off-stage against Marth/Lucina is just so rough. Not the friendliest matchup, that's for sure. Were it not for the SD in game 2, I think Sean could've taken it. Keeping a very close eye on Bowser play and related knowledge. I'm very interested and anything that can improve my own play will be very welcome.
@@timesthebear For sure! There's not a ton of Bowser play going around at the moment, but this is promising to me. Bowser was my favourite character to play in Smash 4 and as it turns out, that has not changed here, except that Bowser is now a much better character, so I enjoy him even more now. So naturally I'm gonna be a fan of quality Bowser play. I'll be watching, looking forward to more!
@@timesthebear Aye man i like the bowser play, i was wondering why you dont use the nair as much? i feel its very useful for crossups and lasts longer than a spot dodge .I like your style a lot. Still a lot of tech to be discovered but i see your committed.
@@Kr4zymakHD so, at least right now i'm personally pushing a very grounded style. Bowser has a lot of strong moves, with a lot of armor and intangibility but that only applies to moves on the ground. When you're nairing you it just loses to random stuff, like mario nair or something. The other reason more has to do with my confidence with the move. You have to immediately react with a follow up and the follow up will be wildly different depending on if you get the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th limb, also whether you cross them up and lastly how they DI. On top of that, you really want to be doing reverse nair most of the time or at least be ready to do an attack cancel like here: twitter.com/BigSeanSSB/status/1078438673442426880. Lastly you'll see this set I actually do go for nair a few times, but was punished for it every time. It just goes to show that if an opponent knows what to do, they can just press any button and nair will always lose.
@@milboxr9772 And if you are a hater, you can find everything on every character... Because you are a hater you like and your main. Don't play smash Bros...
That's the major flaw of Bowser. His up B having a lot of landing lag in combination with not having a great fast fall causes him to get rinse repeat edgegaurded like Sheik dittos in Melee. If he could act out of his up b quickly, or maybe like Sonic where he could do so in the air (which could make sense because he's just going into his shell) he could avoid just getting thrown back off for free when he has to go high.
@@oliverpagan1105 I think it would be the perfect buff that no seems to have thought of. He would still get combod and edgegaurded, it would just give him more mixups in those situations, and help him recover and land without giving him other options like armor on an aerial that could break him. Right now I feel he's still too weak to be anything more than a niche counterpick, which is pretty unfortunate given how enjoyable he is to play. He just currently doesn't have any options to play around his weaknesses like the better characters can.
@@Saskaruto16 I completely agree. I've mained bowser since brawl, and he hasnt ever really been viable until now. This is the best hes ever been, but being the fastest heavy doesnt mean hes the best heavy. A recovery or missed attack leaves bowser super vulnerable, and less landing lag would be terrific.
@@oliverpagan1105 I have always loved Bowser, used him in Mario kart and smash, mario party, etc, but I never mained him in any game because I'm a competitive tier whore. So he's always my "fun character". I do think he's the best heavy. King K is an over rated noob crusher, DK is super gimpable and less powerful than Bowser but almost as laggy, DDD, do I even need to explain the miriade of reasons he sucks? I think Bowser will end up being a low high tier or high mid tier character who is only really good for counterpicks. He either destroys people or gets destroyed and doesn't have many even matchups. With a few little buffs he really could be a top tier. Getting to act out of his up b alone might be enough, but giving him back his smash 4 range on his f-tilt, down tilt, and fair, letting him decide whether to down b onto or through platforms like Yoshi, along with acting out of his up b would be a surefire way to make him a top tier while still having a few losing matchups and having a lot of counterplay.
@@Zumastraphy alright, so I guess I didn't explain super properly so here's a copy and paste of its definition The neutral game, or just neutral, is a phase during gameplay when no player has a situational advantage over the other. In this phase, either player's objective is to "win the neutral game", i.e. land a hit with possible follow-ups, or punish the enemy for a failed attempt to do so.
@@TwiceTheKing yes but the context is what 'they' mean, the commentators, and what they refer to is what I put down, word for word. Commentators usually comment about a characters neutral game, and what I posted is what they are referring to.
His Bowser is good. I got a few Bowser vids on my page, I use him differently but i see a few minor differences he does that i can use to make mine better.
grow up lmao that was good play I think big sean deserved the win too but are you really going to complain about fire emblem characters for this game's lifespan?
Bowser is my op character of Smash, at least, I need to train with Cloud, Chrom, King K. Rool, Incineroar, and many other characters, including Piranha Plant JAJAJAJAJAJ
For all we know, he could’ve had that nickname before Big Sean started his career. Just because someone else gets famous with the same name doesn’t mean he has to change it. Or for all I know, he is copying it. Either way, “Big Sean” in itself is fairly unoriginal.
Bowser should have a dry bowser skin that would be sick
Or dry bowser as an echo
Dark bowser
And the Mario odyssey suit
Breathes blue fire.
Bowser should have odyssey suit too in ultimate
Tylil Hamlin yo that would actually be fire. I would pay for bowser fighting in a suit
Ikr peach should as well, why does Mario only get one?
@@yvthanrosemary Peach has a white dress color. That's her wedding dress.
Brandon Stell no thats just her normal dress but in white, I want her wedding dress from Odyssey
This needs more likes.
So close, wow. Glad heavies can actually compete.
Sorta
The only heavies I see in tournaments are Ganon and bowser
That comeback on the first game though.
Yeah in ultimate, at least in my experience Bowser can make a comeback REAL QUICK with a few reads or the opponent messed up something a few times
That's why heavys (DK bowser) are so op in this game. Hard to kill but can kill easy.
Heavies naturally play a higher stakes game. Mess up, you eat a huge combo. Your opponent messes up, you make them fly
That shit made me *_N U T_*
they were even since bowsers a
heavy and its hard for him to get knocked off
Bro is every damn character viable????
I honestly think so
Beggining of the game, still testing the waters
Anthony Werner No. Lil Mac is not viable.
Except Bowser JR, Little Mac and Mii Brawler
@Zion Blake Kirby's at least good for trolling people, the other three characters can't even say that.
Anyone else triggered that the bowser didnt smash against the platforms
It’s nice that also agrees every character is viable. Frankly, I haven’t even found a main yet, whenever I play regular smash I’m almost always choosing random. Not *every* character feels great to me, but a lot do
Mine is DEDEDE and king k rool
Le 8bit Spy nice, I find K Rool to be very easy to use
Every character may be viable but there's many that are just straight up better than others like most of the swordfighters
@@milboxr9772 nah i beat them everyday with me dedede
Yeah boy ! King dedede main here too. And zelda also
Commentators are great! More of them!!
When's bowsette being added to the game
Normie
Fan made characters like bowsette will never be in smash bros. Get out
Never.
Her real name is *Peachser
Peachowser you mean
I definitely like the Bowser play here. The start of games 1 and 2 were just really unfortunate, and being off-stage against Marth/Lucina is just so rough. Not the friendliest matchup, that's for sure. Were it not for the SD in game 2, I think Sean could've taken it.
Keeping a very close eye on Bowser play and related knowledge. I'm very interested and anything that can improve my own play will be very welcome.
Thanks for the compliment, hopefully you'll check out my games in the future!
@@timesthebear For sure! There's not a ton of Bowser play going around at the moment, but this is promising to me. Bowser was my favourite character to play in Smash 4 and as it turns out, that has not changed here, except that Bowser is now a much better character, so I enjoy him even more now. So naturally I'm gonna be a fan of quality Bowser play. I'll be watching, looking forward to more!
Forget k rool bowser is the real op threat in this game
@@timesthebear Aye man i like the bowser play, i was wondering why you dont use the nair as much? i feel its very useful for crossups and lasts longer than a spot dodge .I like your style a lot. Still a lot of tech to be discovered but i see your committed.
@@Kr4zymakHD so, at least right now i'm personally pushing a very grounded style. Bowser has a lot of strong moves, with a lot of armor and intangibility but that only applies to moves on the ground. When you're nairing you it just loses to random stuff, like mario nair or something. The other reason more has to do with my confidence with the move. You have to immediately react with a follow up and the follow up will be wildly different depending on if you get the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th limb, also whether you cross them up and lastly how they DI. On top of that, you really want to be doing reverse nair most of the time or at least be ready to do an attack cancel like here: twitter.com/BigSeanSSB/status/1078438673442426880. Lastly you'll see this set I actually do go for nair a few times, but was punished for it every time. It just goes to show that if an opponent knows what to do, they can just press any button and nair will always lose.
"So long gay Mario!"
Kelpy G lol
It was a very good game, i would love to see more of Mario though.
Those Casters had some great chemistry. Really enjoyed the commentary.
At 4:21, is that tech ledge cancel something new?
no
Lucina is so boring to watch, That first match was great though, The comeback was great
*This Lucina
@@skywell7078 what's the difference? All of em spam aerials , that's all swordfighters are
@@milboxr9772 No there is so much attacks... grabs down tilt up b. You are not a good player...
A character can't win with only 4 attacks.
@@milboxr9772 And if you are a hater, you can find everything on every character... Because you are a hater you like and your main. Don't play smash Bros...
@@milboxr9772 What is your main? Sonic? Link? Kirby???
This ain't big sean
idek why he named himself after a famous rapper
His name is Sean lol duh
@@Kai109 his name is Sean fucking idiot the rapper doesn't own the name Sean what a fucking dummy
Anthony Tamez Holy shit why are you so angry
@@MotionX01 sup bro if there's a problem we can solve it
0:37 That throw is an ode to Mario 64 bowser boss battle fights.
where can I get Big Sean's hoodie tho 👀
What's the song playing in the first game?
Should’ve bowser-cided last game
Is there a way I can join the tournament
Well when a janitor fights mini turtle Godzilla what did you think would happen.
That's the major flaw of Bowser. His up B having a lot of landing lag in combination with not having a great fast fall causes him to get rinse repeat edgegaurded like Sheik dittos in Melee.
If he could act out of his up b quickly, or maybe like Sonic where he could do so in the air (which could make sense because he's just going into his shell) he could avoid just getting thrown back off for free when he has to go high.
As a bowser main, I'd love for that to happen. It'd actually make a lot of sense
@@oliverpagan1105 I think it would be the perfect buff that no seems to have thought of.
He would still get combod and edgegaurded, it would just give him more mixups in those situations, and help him recover and land without giving him other options like armor on an aerial that could break him.
Right now I feel he's still too weak to be anything more than a niche counterpick, which is pretty unfortunate given how enjoyable he is to play. He just currently doesn't have any options to play around his weaknesses like the better characters can.
@@Saskaruto16 I completely agree. I've mained bowser since brawl, and he hasnt ever really been viable until now. This is the best hes ever been, but being the fastest heavy doesnt mean hes the best heavy. A recovery or missed attack leaves bowser super vulnerable, and less landing lag would be terrific.
@@oliverpagan1105 I have always loved Bowser, used him in Mario kart and smash, mario party, etc, but I never mained him in any game because I'm a competitive tier whore. So he's always my "fun character".
I do think he's the best heavy. King K is an over rated noob crusher, DK is super gimpable and less powerful than Bowser but almost as laggy, DDD, do I even need to explain the miriade of reasons he sucks?
I think Bowser will end up being a low high tier or high mid tier character who is only really good for counterpicks. He either destroys people or gets destroyed and doesn't have many even matchups.
With a few little buffs he really could be a top tier. Getting to act out of his up b alone might be enough, but giving him back his smash 4 range on his f-tilt, down tilt, and fair, letting him decide whether to down b onto or through platforms like Yoshi, along with acting out of his up b would be a surefire way to make him a top tier while still having a few losing matchups and having a lot of counterplay.
Great commentary, I like the insight, been a fan of smash since the 64 release.
8:16 yep, yeah.... yep, yeah... yeah... yep, yeah... no, yeah, yep
0:47 - 0:50 DAAAAAAAAMN! 😨 caught you slippin', Big B! 🤣
Honestly all the Mario skins in smash should be ones from odyssey, that would be great
hands down one of my favorite sets ive seen in ultimate
I love to see this many characters compete, I hope the meta doesn't just become stale with 5 viable characters.
First game: Bowser finally gets his revenge on Mario
why is lucina not using down b counterattack?
muuly big recovery
I want to get this game but I've never been good at smash and no idea how people get this good at it
its really fun to play even if you're no good at it (im definetely not)
Practice.
Anyone knows rice's Twitter @ ?
wararicey, he also streams on twitch under that username
Is bowser allowed to suicide in competitive play?
Yeah but if both players are on last stock its whoever's on lowest percent wins
What do they mean by "neutral"
Neutral is basically the fight before they just start throwing their finishers, like jabs, aerials, combos, etc etc,
sirplayalot11x wrong lol
@@Zumastraphy alright, so I guess I didn't explain super properly so here's a copy and paste of its definition
The neutral game, or just neutral, is a phase during gameplay when no player has a situational advantage over the other. In this phase, either player's objective is to "win the neutral game", i.e. land a hit with possible follow-ups, or punish the enemy for a failed attempt to do so.
@@sirplayalot11x a neutral is an attack with no directional input.
@@TwiceTheKing yes but the context is what 'they' mean, the commentators, and what they refer to is what I put down, word for word. Commentators usually comment about a characters neutral game, and what I posted is what they are referring to.
Yeah Bowser mains need a second character that can handle swords. Not much can be done.
TruthSetAblaze to beat a swords man you need a swords man
@@Gamerboi-im3rk Yep. I main bowser and Mario, but if fighting a FE character I have a pocket Lucina
Is this canon?
I'm pretty sure this Big Sean isn't the rapper
This fight was destined to happen
5:00 i can see them talking in background.
13:00 holy maccaroni
a canon battle
Down b kinda underrated ngl
That was some great gameplay from both of them.
Rice out here playing like he knows it's Punishment Time if he loses.
3:28 the power of Borp compels you
B I G SEAN DON
I really liked the commentary for this video
what’s rice Instagram?
I love bowser, wish I didn’t have so many damn bills, I’d buy this game and a switch 😆guess I’m a TH-cam champ till then
Big Bodies do work in Smash Bros. Ultimate
this sean guy holy fuck, I have wet dreams about fucking seeing bowser played ever.
Bowser is the monster, there should be absolutely no one that can beat him
Big Sean!? Detroit 2!?
Why does the game look darker
Neonpixel someone lowered the brightness and it's freaking annoying.
the rapper?
lol the little whimper at 4:09 after the bowser f smash
lmao just pick a sord character and win
Theres like 46 characters with swords lmao so annoying
Sword*
ThAt'S so boring tho
Salt.
lol all the salt from the replies
Is he a rapper? 😶
What a comeback
First round just like back when I played new super Mario bros wii id almost beat the boss then they unleash this super cpu and destroy me
Fun too see Bowser compete
big sean out here with the chon jacket
His Bowser is good. I got a few Bowser vids on my page, I use him differently but i see a few minor differences he does that i can use to make mine better.
I wanted Big Sean to win 😥
Very good commentators.
That fucking Bowser grab is broken.
I love bowser in smash ultimate so bad
Sigh FE characters are so booooring to watch, that first match was GREAT!
I like watching ike
FE characters are fine, you just need to be able to appreciate the way they play around the enemy
@@tavianblagoev6266 no they are boring
@@4touchdowns1game29 well if ur boring and dont actually look at whats happening sure.
bro mario vs bowser was annoying
The commentator sounds like Relax Alex
which
That chon sweater tho 💎🔥
The commentators were great
That was intense
WOO BIG SEAN he's got good movement! I miss bidou perfect pivoting though
One of the commentators sounds like kubz scouts
i like his yellow hoodie. fresh
Rice is a beast on Mario
Mario vs bowser nice archenemies battle
Funny how anchor man mentions moves before he does em... hmmm... very funny.... lol
Le Meme Network lol what
This is canon
Good Game
No upthrow nair ???? Sean???
Oh yeah yeah
respect to bowser
Daaaamn
Rice is so good
Guess what guys
Mario best his ASS....
Blah, Lucina is lame af.
First bout was fantastic tho.
Yeah sword mains are just lame ass tier whores.
grow up lmao that was good play
I think big sean deserved the win too but are you really going to complain about fire emblem characters for this game's lifespan?
@@savatarx99 or they just find Ike, Marth, Roy etc fun to play. which they are. This is coming from a bowser main
says the sm4sh bayo player lol
clicked on this only to see how bad this match up is for bowser lol
Lucina zzz
Who else clicked on this video to see if the real Big Sean was playing?
He can’t play bowser worth shit
mario is just broken as hell.
Not gonna lie tho The commentary is awkward lol
Bowser is my op character of Smash, at least, I need to train with Cloud, Chrom, King K. Rool, Incineroar, and many other characters, including Piranha Plant JAJAJAJAJAJ
First
Big sean? Lol...like why people are so uncreative nowadays
Says "Unnamed af" lol
Gamesforus well at least it's better than copying
Hey, I don't care, I just think its funny
For all we know, he could’ve had that nickname before Big Sean started his career. Just because someone else gets famous with the same name doesn’t mean he has to change it. Or for all I know, he is copying it. Either way, “Big Sean” in itself is fairly unoriginal.
His name is Sean lol and he plays a heavy
Shit
This bowser is traah