Also for the record...The window was rattling BEFORE the lift and tires. It just has gotten progressively worse. I was going to wait to tell you all during the dealership video 5K service, however it has gotten so bad now that I had to share. Thanks guys!!!
Hey Jon, I work in glass research and deal closely with automotive applications. I am certain the rattling is coming from the lower channel, not the upper. In other words, the rattling is coming from where the window sits in the carrier inside the door panel. Hope this helps.
I’ve been loving my 2023 1794 Tundra so far. I have done over 1,200 miles in road trips over the last month, and it’s made road trips very comfortable and enjoyable. The only thing I need fixed is the leg extension on the drivers seat that doesn’t ever work for me. I have not had the window issue though. Truck is currently at about 6,200 miles.
Great on road trips right? Yes my seat extension doesn't work as well. I documented that in my last road trip video. It is just stuck now for some reason.
I just rented the exact truck with brown leather interior. Have to say the worst ride of any truck I've rented including lower end Nissan Titans. The shocks are terrible, super stiff. You really feel every bump. The whiny turbo noise is weird, the general road noise inside the cabin is louder than my 2019 Tundra. I'm sorry these new trucks are a fail.
I bought a 2023 Tundra platinum and only had it for 2300 miles. Loved the truck but was super disappointed with towing. Couldn't find any truck with tow mirrors and so I settled with the regular mirrors. Big mistake!! The next problem was I would get an overheated transmission light when pulling up hills. The dealer said it was because it was new.... and that it should work its self out. The load was my aluminum 22' boat 4K very light load. I have a hay farm so I loaded up 100 bales (6K lbs. and a doubly axle trailer all together 9500 lbs. No problem on power but I felt as if the trailer was pushing me down the road even with trailer breaks. Next I took a road trip pulling 2 wavrunners and some camping gear, we drove over to eastern Oregon 400 mile road trip and got 14 MPG. And on all these loads/ trips the Tundra is very very squatty. My previous Truck was a Ram 3500 Short bed Diesel. I got rid of that truck @ 120,000 miles because I was so sick of emission problems and a rough ride! I was really hoping the Tundra was the fix. I ended up going back to a Ram 2500 Mega cab with a diesel. So far 800 miles , averaging 20.7 MPG way better ride then the 3500 and when you need the pulling power you got it. I sure with the Rams interior was like the Tundra!!
My dad’s 2023 Tundra Platinum regular i force, hasn’t had that rattling issue yet since he hasn’t noticed anything for the few months he had and he just brought it in for 10k miles service last Monday last time I rode with him it was quiet, but then again my daily is a wrangler so I am very used to a lot of rattling 😁
I get it in the first year or so, but they get fixed. To be two years in and dealers are telling their customers that it is normal or that there is no fix, is honestly insane. We will see what my dealer does. I'm not gonna blow this outta porportion yet, but I want it fixed not just for me, but for all owners having this issue.
I have this same issue, had the weather stripping replaced for both windows and then it came back 2 days later. I shoved some foam between the weather stripping and frame, helps a bit.
I am having the same noise from the passenger side window. I have original tires and don’t have a lift. The only thing I see in common are tinted windows. Could something have been damaged while tinting the windows?
I demoed a 2023 TRD SPORT PREMIUM for 48 hours and here was my experience: PROS: -insanely stable at fast speeds -very good power and handling for size -beautiful exterior -love the instant acceleration -not much hear hunting -softex looks good -obviously the amazing crash ratings IIHS -shifter fits hand perfect CONS: -rattling rear glass when down -crazy wind noise -rattling defrost fan -weird uneven gaps around body -uneven rubber trims -holes between fenders and headlights -dirt in the paint -no rubber gasket 3rd brake light. Just a huge gap. -cheap plastic interior -entire overhead console wobbles when pressing light buttons -LED lights are inefficient inside truck -door cards LOOK and feel cheap -AC vent bezels look and feel cheap. -parked it next to a used V8 tundra and gently tapped around each body and felt a clear difference. Feels cheap and hollow. -seats are too firm. - the grab handles are an UTTER fail. Tacoma way better. Knuckles hurt from tundra handles. -steering wheel is an awkward shape. It’s just awkward. The leather feels thin. -the key fob is so cheap it laughable. For a TUNDRA I should get a cooler fob that says tundra. -lastly, for a $60-65k sport premium loaded, I get these cheap ass Honda accord gauges. The Tacoma has beautiful 3D blue gauges with rocks AND mountains in the MID. I get a RAV4/Corolla MID with ZERO clue I just spent almost $70,000. Some nicely bezeled gauges with a digital design signifying I just got a highway worrier truck would be 100% necessary. I’m dumbfounded they even rolled it with these gauges and MID. Honestly I feel like the Tundra launch was disrupted by Covid and they rushed to slap it together to not make the mistake they did w the Supra. They wanted to enter the market while people were over spending on full size trucks. But slapping it together misses the mark and people notice. Nobody can pretend this new tundra doesn’t feel cheap. ESPECIALLY if they were ever exposed to the love and care that went into building those solid V8 tundras. Lmk if anyone agrees or disagrees. Our voices change the market!
As a Mercedes tech I can guarantee you the customer would get corporate involved if we told them that window rattle is normal lol. That’s wild they would even tell you that. Surprised they wouldn’t even try just replacing all the window channel seals, or even the window regulator if it’s not holding the window tight enough up against the seals.
Toyota told us a few years back that oil consumption of one quart every 500-600 mile in our Toyota Camry was "normal" which I knew was total BS. I reached out to an old acquaintance that was a Toyota Master Tech and he told me there was a problem with a sizeable batch of engines that had bad piston rings. He said Toyota was trying to side step the issue and to press the dealer and Toyota hard on the issue. After 2-3 months of back and forth Toyota finally put out a TSB on the issue and replaced the pistons and rings in thousands of engines.
same truck. 9k miles no window issues. but i also have window visors. the stick on kind. one of my rear windows made a squeaking noise during one trip but it hasn't happened again in the last 3k miles. cracked seat plastic tho :(
The back window rattle, the clip on plastic under the driver seat, and the loud popping from the panoramic roof really piss me off.. but I still love the truck 😅
I have the exact same truck. My driver side window rattles a little on the inside of the strip when I listen to music. If you put your elbow on the door rest and hold your forearm straight up, you fingers will hit the inside area where the rattle comes from. I think I'm going to pull my seal out and put some felt behind it to get around the issue.
My 23 1794 doesn't rattle at all quiet as can be , just traveled from West palm beach Florida ,to Oklahoma average 22 mpg on eco mode whole way! Cant believe how nice the ride was majorly impressed!!
Hi Jon. With my f150, I pulled the window seal completely. I bought some weather seal from home Depot placed it on the inside of the door channel and then popped the factory window seal back in so now when the window rolls up it actually seats very tightly. It fixed my problem
Appreciate your candid breakdown of rattling window panels. Given this is the 2nd year since refresh, one would expect this to be fixed already during production or at a minimum a manufacturer ready to fix solution should be given to the dealerships to address the necessary adjustment. On a brighter note, your 37 suspension lifted system seems to be doing a good number at 16 mpg of mixed driving. My stock 23 Ram Rebel with a bunch of skid plates and 1 inch stock lift on 33 AT tires have been giving me avg of 16 mpg [18+ on freeway (driving like I'm next to the CHP) and 14 1/2 on city].
@@TRDJonHah. While finishes are solid (no rattle, etc), I'm keeping fingers crossed about those infamous HEMI ticks and clogged injectors. I think the V8 is something I will hang on to for a while before they switch to the new unproven Hurricane V6
Great review! Interesting about the window issue, I had a similar issue on my 2017 Ford F250, the fix was to replace the door striker with one that had no coating on it. The coating on the OEM strike wore off and the entire door would shake slightly, and you could hear it around the window. The striker that fixed was from an older model Chevy truck with no coating. I was skeptical, but when installed the rattle from the window was gone.
Oh wow. I haven’t bought a new Toyota since my Lime Rush 4Runner TRD Pro but seems like Toyota quality control isn’t the same. It’s not just you. I’ve seen numerous other complaints about the new Tundra as well. Makes me really think twice about purchasing the next gen 4Runner or the Land Cruiser 😅. All this stuff sound like something you would find in a big 3 truck. I used to own a 2019 Raptor for 3 years and the build quality was on point. No issues whatsoever for the time I had it. Not sure if I can say the same for the build quality & price of the current Tundra.
Hi Jon, I've been experiencing significant wind noise, about 40+ mph, accompanied by a whistling sound. I took it to the dealer, but they just verified the seal and compared it with other new Tundras, noting similar noise, hence concluding they couldn’t do much about it. Additionally, there's a rattling noise from my steering wheel. The dealer stated they couldn't replicate it and have refrained from taking any action. There’s also an issue with my screen, where it goes black, and all the buttons freeze. I’ve opened a case with Toyota on all this, but there's been no resolution. All these issues are occurring in my 2023 Tundra Limited, which I bought about 2 months ago.
Man that sucks ! Sorry to hear that it’s such a beautiful truck to. It definitely makes me want to wait a few years later for the Gen4 Tacoma and so I’ll definitely keep my gen3 for a while now until they work out bugs in the gen4 I’m pretty confident they will have .
Happy with my 2019 platinum going on 120k with zero issues. It tolls my Winnebago 30 foot trailer with no issues. Will drive it until the tires fall off. Hope Toyota goes back with the v8 engine. I get better gas mileage also at 17 hi-way and around 10 towing the trailer.
I'm at roughly 10k miles on my 23 TRD pro. No window rattling for me at this point. Haven't honestly had any problems with mine at all at this point(knocking on wood). Hope you can get some remediation for it soon.
Totally agree that the window issue is bs... would in channel window visors fix? Just a thought... Maybe you've already tried that. If not, worth a shot
I get the rattle when go over any bumps. It’s small noise but is annoying. It’s from the window and window strip seal. It’s like the window strip at top needs to be thicker so glass has a better seal as well as fit tighter so no play. With the window up the strip has play when I press up at different spots
I just rolled over 10K in my 2023 Platinum. No rattling, yet. Only problem, that I have found, is the "under the knee" part of the automatic seat has stopped working. Don't use it much, but still shouldn't stop working before 10k miles on such an expensive truck, IMHO.
If those things u have in the window are working for ya then try some in channel wind deflectors. But I also believe it’s the track it’s sitting inside behind the panel as stated before by other comments.
My ‘96 Tacoma recently started leaking air from the driver side window. This thing has been around longer than I have but I cannot imagine a new truck doing that and the company having a lame explanation. They don’t make them like they used to….
2022 SR5 with 10K miles - I have the same issue with my windows rattling and it drives me nuts! Took it in to the dealer and they replaced the door seals cuz they thought that was the fix but nope. It’s actually really really annoying to drive the way it is, just down a normal road can be 10-30mph and it just shakes as if the window is not seated in the channel correctly or something.
Nope has spacer lift up front (going to swap for Wescott soon) and 35’s on 18 inch wheels. I just can’t imagine that being the issue. It honestly seems like the windows are loose in the door and they are shifting up and down. I also saw on another one of your reviews how loose your windows were when you pulled them up, so I tried the same. My thoughts are it’s the window bouncing up and down and not sitting properly inside of the door vs the door being sealed properly.
Windows make the noise around 80 in mine. They tried adding stripping and it still thumps. Also 10 months now without a second key. Really think we need a class action at this point just to get keys
@TRDJon, regarding the window rattle, I wonder if you could post a survey on your channel for the window rattle issue and whether those affected have the standard side view mirrors or the tow mirrors? I have a '22 1794 with standard mirrors and a standard bed. I don't have the window rattle, but I do have what I consider a driver door gasket noise that is very slight and very intermittent, and an intermittent wind noise from the RR passenger door. My dealer has attempted to fix these without parts replacement, which has minimized the noise and frequency of the events, but has not eliminated them. I plan to bring it up again during my 20K service likely in December.
Hey Jon. I have my 23 platinum as well and I a similar rattle. I hear it coming from the passenger rear. Randomly opened my Pano roof to enjoy the weather and the rattle went away. Closed it, then rattle came back. I can duplicate this 100% of the time. Have u tried that? My dealer said they can take it apart and investigate further but I choose not to. It doesn't bother me enough "yet" haha
Thanks for the info, that is interesting. If you put pressure on my window the noise goes away. So I know mine is the window itself or the surrounding area.
I have the 2023 Tundra LTD Crew Cab TRD package and the window noise is not a problem as much as the rattling center console. If I drive local streets that are at all bumpy, the console rattles away -- and it's annoying.
Hey Jon, if you like the Tampa area definitely check out Dunedin when you come back. Lots of awesome properties for sale around here and its a nice quite town with lots of fun nightlife in walking distance. It's also situated about 20-30 minutes from everything in the area like downtown tampa, st pete etc.
Yeh my driver side has an irritating whistling noise comin through the driver door or window if its windy or going over 50. Rear windshield rattles ALOT if i put it down even a little bit.
Love your videos and can't wait to see you review and provide content on the new Tacoma when it comes out. I noticed your Tundra has gloss black fender flares like the new Tacoma TRD Pro will have. How do you like them and do them hold up well or show scratches easily?
Love the content Jon looking at getting a tundra myself. Noticed you were looking at Westbay homes in Mirada. Great option especially with all the amenities and equity. If you need any info on the area I’d love to share it with you.
Your fuel economy isn’t that bad with the 37’s. Those 14% larger so add 14% to your MPG numbers and miles per tank. 16.2mpg is 18.4mpg, that’s dang good! The window issue sucks for sure. I don’t know what’s going on with manufactures right now, but many all new vehicles just don’t seem like they were tested long term before selling them.
It's funny you are having issues with the window rattling. I had a 2017 Toyota Tacoma with exactly the same issue after a few trips back and forth to the dealer I reached out the Toyota And they told me it's a truck the rattling is normal you would think several years later it was already solved this issue in a brand new truck
Toyota is purposefully not fixing known problems. It’s either cheaper to not fix them or it’s planned obsolescence. Try getting a 2005 chassis recall and then a 2017 with the same recall. What’s the point of Toyotas high resale value if the dealer over charges and their vehicles aren’t reliable. Toyota is falling off.
I bought a toyota and was told that the truck could be serviced and taken care of at any toyota dealer that I take it to due to me paying for a extra package. When I took it to a different dealer they told me that they couldn't. Where I bought it which was 4 hours away told me to report them to the Southeastern toyota department. I was told that the popping in my steering wheel they couldn't fix it (When I turn right) and some other things. They told me that I still have plenty of warranty so just bring it back if it gets worse.
‘22 1794 with 16k miles - I’ve had the same “fuh fuh fuh fuh” rattling noise since I first got this truck in December 2021. Reported to the dealer, changed weather stripping on the window, and added felt pads in the trim, but no dice. It’s infuriating and ruins what would otherwise be a quiet and comfortable drive.
That fuel economy aint half bad for that lift and 37's. If I did it right that is just about 18mpg actual versus the 15.8 displayed to correct for the tire diameter.
I live within 1.5 miles from Pop stroke! Hit me up if you’re think of moving to the Wesley Chapel/Lutz/Land O Lakes area. I’m a utility worker and I’m VERY FAMILIAR with most of the Pro’s and Con’s of the surrounding neighborhoods.
I have two crazy theories. One is window tint. I have read across many car communities that after tint people start hearing more noise. Maybe when it’s installed the seal gets bent or moved every so slightly or added friction makes something happen, how I have no idea lol but it is an aftermarket product. I personally have never had a problem with tint. My second crazy theory is the vinyl wrap on the A pillars. Is it possible the added thickness of the wrap creates some sort of air flow issue? Once again I do not know how likely either is, just crazy theories. I have a 23 sr5 Trd off-road, it rattles a lot but overall it’s been really good and no window noise yet or at least anything I notice. When it comes to vehicles people have very strong opinions, I have never owned a truck. I choose the Tundra because compared to Ford, Ram and Chevy with comparable features it was 5-10 grand cheaper. Also they all have their issues, it’s just the world we live in. Would I get another one? Probably not, but only because I think I am more of a sedan / van (ultimate family hauler) guy honestly. Keep up the great content.
@@TRDJon yeah like I said I have never had that issue either with tint and it’s just a crazy theory but stranger things have happened. I would be interested to see what Toyota tells you as there seems to be no fix. I will probably keep my tundra for a year and move on. Quality is really crappy as you have found out twice now lol.
2022 tundra. Windows rattle and almost sounds like wind coming thru my passenger side. I've had the molds replaced and still rattle. Dealership said there is nothing they can do right now. Super annoying.
Are you still on the stock black axle? I heard people said when you lift higher than 2 inch, you need the red axle. Any problems if your are stock black?
Best thing about Tampa is moving away from Tampa. I grew up in Tampa and witnessed it go from good to bad. I'm so glad I finally moved away. 37's just overwhelm the rims. Florida Lemon Law will fix that issue on the truck, because they will have to buy it back from you and then the rattle goes away with the truck.
What is the height of the 2024 with the 3 inch lift ? I am looking for a new truck, but it needs to fit in the garage. I currently have a F150 with a fox level kit.
Hi, I recently installed a leveling kit on my 23 Tundra and right after that it started displaying pre-collision system malfunction. Sadly that same day I went through some flooding so I don't know wich of the events caused the issue, have you had this problem?
15.4😮, that's not what we want in a hybrid. I get that in my 08 . Now i don't have 37's, but 295's, which are close to 35's. Great looking Tundra, sucks about the rattle. Hopefully, by the time im ready to buy this problem, it is resolved.
Dealer is probably gonna blame the tires for causing the window rattle. My passenger side upper tow mirror glass shakes pretty bad on my Pro and 2 dealers now have blamed the 34’s I have on it for the cause of it. Even though the shake isn’t a consistent shake like it would be from tires, it happens more when there’s a gust of wind, or I’m passing a larger truck. But neither of them cared, just passed it off and blamed the tires even though I told them that it has been a problem even with the stock tires. Surprisingly I haven’t noticed any window rattles like you have. I’ll haveta keep an eye out tomorrow when I drive it and see if mine move around. I def don’t hear any rattle noises though.
I’ve got a new Tundra 1794. Rear bumper cap on right (passenger) side is not connected to main bumper. They said It’s common and bracket is on back order. Told me it would be 30 days. Now at 60 days. Not pleased.
Toyota ended up buying back from me my 2022 tundra limited, brakes were cristalizing, screen was always going black, bed always rattled, was never reperable, then I got a 2023 trd pro, same issues, Toyota took it back. What a big disappointment, I went back to a highlander
You were definitely calm about the window, all considering. I wonder if Toyota would have been wiser to wait until after all the Covid chaos to bring out the current Tundra. With all the supply chain issues and people working from home at that time, perhaps some of these annoyances that are not acceptable for a new truck would have been caught if they had waited.
Love my truck. Have 600 miles on my 2023 limited but I did just have my headliner replaced & front seats repaired due to rattles. Lucky my dealership is good.
That rattle is why I'm going to keep my 2016 Tacoma, 2021 v6 Highlander and buy a new 2024 4runner or a used GX460. Toyota is being forced (by government regulations) to make their cars lighter and more "efficient" = cheaper.
It’s not the window that makes whistle noises, it’s shitty manufacture design. Toyota replaced the window seal on my truck twice but could not fix the problem. They asked me to call toyota head quarter because this is a known problems for all the 3rd gen Tundras.
Also for the record...The window was rattling BEFORE the lift and tires. It just has gotten progressively worse. I was going to wait to tell you all during the dealership video 5K service, however it has gotten so bad now that I had to share. Thanks guys!!!
How soon after purchase did you notice the rattle?
Yea, I was gonna ask the same question. I have no rattling in my truck but it only has 3,500 miles.
dealer will blame on the lift and tires 100%. THey are the worst scammer on earth
Jon, did your SR5 have tow mirrors too? I’d be curious if the mirror style makes a difference.
No window rattles here // at 21k on a 22 tundra sr5
You're 100% honest and have a great attitude. Though I won't be buying a new Tundra, I'll keep watching your videos.
More future Toyota vehicles to come!
Hey Jon, I work in glass research and deal closely with automotive applications. I am certain the rattling is coming from the lower channel, not the upper. In other words, the rattling is coming from where the window sits in the carrier inside the door panel.
Hope this helps.
Thank you dan! I will let my dealer know to look there as well sir.
@@TRDJon keep me updated!
I would like to know as well. Having same issue.
I’ve been loving my 2023 1794 Tundra so far. I have done over 1,200 miles in road trips over the last month, and it’s made road trips very comfortable and enjoyable. The only thing I need fixed is the leg extension on the drivers seat that doesn’t ever work for me. I have not had the window issue though. Truck is currently at about 6,200 miles.
Great on road trips right? Yes my seat extension doesn't work as well. I documented that in my last road trip video. It is just stuck now for some reason.
Super common issue with the leg extension.
Could it be something with just the platinum edition?
I just rented the exact truck with brown leather interior. Have to say the worst ride of any truck I've rented including lower end Nissan Titans. The shocks are terrible, super stiff. You really feel every bump. The whiny turbo noise is weird, the general road noise inside the cabin is louder than my 2019 Tundra. I'm sorry these new trucks are a fail.
@@TRDJon905t
I bought a 2023 Tundra platinum and only had it for 2300 miles. Loved the truck but was super disappointed with towing. Couldn't find any truck with tow mirrors and so I settled with the regular mirrors. Big mistake!! The next problem was I would get an overheated transmission light when pulling up hills. The dealer said it was because it was new.... and that it should work its self out. The load was my aluminum 22' boat 4K very light load. I have a hay farm so I loaded up 100 bales (6K lbs. and a doubly axle trailer all together 9500 lbs. No problem on power but I felt as if the trailer was pushing me down the road even with trailer breaks. Next I took a road trip pulling 2 wavrunners and some camping gear, we drove over to eastern Oregon 400 mile road trip and got 14 MPG. And on all these loads/ trips the Tundra is very very squatty. My previous Truck was a Ram 3500 Short bed Diesel. I got rid of that truck @ 120,000 miles because I was so sick of emission problems and a rough ride! I was really hoping the Tundra was the fix. I ended up going back to a Ram 2500 Mega cab with a diesel. So far 800 miles , averaging 20.7 MPG way better ride then the 3500 and when you need the pulling power you got it. I sure with the Rams interior was like the Tundra!!
My dad’s 2023 Tundra Platinum regular i force, hasn’t had that rattling issue yet since he hasn’t noticed anything for the few months he had and he just brought it in for 10k miles service last Monday last time I rode with him it was quiet, but then again my daily is a wrangler so I am very used to a lot of rattling 😁
Yeah rattle noises are definitely not acceptable for such an expensive vehicle. That’s ridiculous.
I get it in the first year or so, but they get fixed. To be two years in and dealers are telling their customers that it is normal or that there is no fix, is honestly insane. We will see what my dealer does. I'm not gonna blow this outta porportion yet, but I want it fixed not just for me, but for all owners having this issue.
I have this same issue, had the weather stripping replaced for both windows and then it came back 2 days later. I shoved some foam between the weather stripping and frame, helps a bit.
I am having the same noise from the passenger side window. I have original tires and don’t have a lift. The only thing I see in common are tinted windows. Could something have been damaged while tinting the windows?
If you can't add tint to a modern car...then it needs to go back to the drawing board....
@@chitchobeanyes mine seems to make noise at the top where window seals. The seal has play with window up
I demoed a 2023 TRD SPORT PREMIUM for 48 hours and here was my experience:
PROS:
-insanely stable at fast speeds
-very good power and handling for size
-beautiful exterior
-love the instant acceleration
-not much hear hunting
-softex looks good
-obviously the amazing crash ratings IIHS
-shifter fits hand perfect
CONS:
-rattling rear glass when down
-crazy wind noise
-rattling defrost fan
-weird uneven gaps around body
-uneven rubber trims
-holes between fenders and headlights
-dirt in the paint
-no rubber gasket 3rd brake light. Just a huge gap.
-cheap plastic interior
-entire overhead console wobbles when pressing light buttons
-LED lights are inefficient inside truck
-door cards LOOK and feel cheap
-AC vent bezels look and feel cheap.
-parked it next to a used V8 tundra and gently tapped around each body and felt a clear difference. Feels cheap and hollow.
-seats are too firm.
- the grab handles are an UTTER fail. Tacoma way better. Knuckles hurt from tundra handles.
-steering wheel is an awkward shape. It’s just awkward. The leather feels thin.
-the key fob is so cheap it laughable. For a TUNDRA I should get a cooler fob that says tundra.
-lastly, for a $60-65k sport premium loaded, I get these cheap ass Honda accord gauges. The Tacoma has beautiful 3D blue gauges with rocks AND mountains in the MID. I get a RAV4/Corolla MID with ZERO clue I just spent almost $70,000. Some nicely bezeled gauges with a digital design signifying I just got a highway worrier truck would be 100% necessary. I’m dumbfounded they even rolled it with these gauges and MID.
Honestly I feel like the Tundra launch was disrupted by Covid and they rushed to slap it together to not make the mistake they did w the Supra. They wanted to enter the market while people were over spending on full size trucks. But slapping it together misses the mark and people notice. Nobody can pretend this new tundra doesn’t feel cheap. ESPECIALLY if they were ever exposed to the love and care that went into building those solid V8 tundras.
Lmk if anyone agrees or disagrees. Our voices change the market!
As a Mercedes tech I can guarantee you the customer would get corporate involved if we told them that window rattle is normal lol. That’s wild they would even tell you that. Surprised they wouldn’t even try just replacing all the window channel seals, or even the window regulator if it’s not holding the window tight enough up against the seals.
Yeah, people buy a Mercedes for perceived quality. They better have low wind/road noise and no rattles.
Toyota told us a few years back that oil consumption of one quart every 500-600 mile in our Toyota Camry was "normal" which I knew was total BS. I reached out to an old acquaintance that was a Toyota Master Tech and he told me there was a problem with a sizeable batch of engines that had bad piston rings. He said Toyota was trying to side step the issue and to press the dealer and Toyota hard on the issue. After 2-3 months of back and forth Toyota finally put out a TSB on the issue and replaced the pistons and rings in thousands of engines.
No window rattling on my ‘23 Tundra Capstone ! 💯 % recommended Tundra Capstone better quality
I just had a Capstone as a press vehicle and the quality wasn't insanely better. It had it's own set of rattles in areas too.
@@TRDJon it is very weird ! 😳
You should do videos or maybe another channel on your Airbnb projects the whole process. I would like to see that.
I tried to document our renovation and then completely failed.
@@TRDJon damn!
same truck. 9k miles no window issues. but i also have window visors. the stick on kind. one of my rear windows made a squeaking noise during one trip but it hasn't happened again in the last 3k miles. cracked seat plastic tho :(
The back window rattle, the clip on plastic under the driver seat, and the loud popping from the panoramic roof really piss me off.. but I still love the truck 😅
I feel like Toyota rushed this new tundra to market. Kinda disappointed to hear so many problems with such an expensive truck.
I have the exact same truck. My driver side window rattles a little on the inside of the strip when I listen to music. If you put your elbow on the door rest and hold your forearm straight up, you fingers will hit the inside area where the rattle comes from. I think I'm going to pull my seal out and put some felt behind it to get around the issue.
My 23 1794 doesn't rattle at all quiet as can be , just traveled from West palm beach Florida ,to Oklahoma average 22 mpg on eco mode whole way! Cant believe how nice the ride was majorly impressed!!
Mine was silent too. Until about 4K miles. Then I started to slowly make noise. Now it’s all the time. Hope yours stays solid.
Jon, do you think it’s a platinum issue?
@@TRDJon I have 9700 miles on mine
No, my old SR5 did it on both windows.
Hi Jon. With my f150, I pulled the window seal completely. I bought some weather seal from home Depot placed it on the inside of the door channel and then popped the factory window seal back in so now when the window rolls up it actually seats very tightly. It fixed my problem
Good idea. My seal at top has play as well and seems it needs to be thicker and more insulated inside
I don't want to DIY but if the deal is no help then I may have to. Glad that worked on your F150. Crazy that it had the same issue.
Appreciate your candid breakdown of rattling window panels. Given this is the 2nd year since refresh, one would expect this to be fixed already during production or at a minimum a manufacturer ready to fix solution should be given to the dealerships to address the necessary adjustment. On a brighter note, your 37 suspension lifted system seems to be doing a good number at 16 mpg of mixed driving. My stock 23 Ram Rebel with a bunch of skid plates and 1 inch stock lift on 33 AT tires have been giving me avg of 16 mpg [18+ on freeway (driving like I'm next to the CHP) and 14 1/2 on city].
Glad your Ram is solid man! That is great to hear!!
@@TRDJonHah. While finishes are solid (no rattle, etc), I'm keeping fingers crossed about those infamous HEMI ticks and clogged injectors. I think the V8 is something I will hang on to for a while before they switch to the new unproven Hurricane V6
Great review! Interesting about the window issue, I had a similar issue on my 2017 Ford F250, the fix was to replace the door striker with one that had no coating on it. The coating on the OEM strike wore off and the entire door would shake slightly, and you could hear it around the window. The striker that fixed was from an older model Chevy truck with no coating. I was skeptical, but when installed the rattle from the window was gone.
We have just about 10k on our 22 Platinum and several family road trips pulling our camper. Thankfully no rattles.
Nice!!!
Oh wow. I haven’t bought a new Toyota since my Lime Rush 4Runner TRD Pro but seems like Toyota quality control isn’t the same. It’s not just you. I’ve seen numerous other complaints about the new Tundra as well.
Makes me really think twice about purchasing the next gen 4Runner or the Land Cruiser 😅. All this stuff sound like something you would find in a big 3 truck. I used to own a 2019 Raptor for 3 years and the build quality was on point. No issues whatsoever for the time I had it. Not sure if I can say the same for the build quality & price of the current Tundra.
Enjoy your 4R! That is awesome
Hi Jon, I've been experiencing significant wind noise, about 40+ mph, accompanied by a whistling sound. I took it to the dealer, but they just verified the seal and compared it with other new Tundras, noting similar noise, hence concluding they couldn’t do much about it. Additionally, there's a rattling noise from my steering wheel. The dealer stated they couldn't replicate it and have refrained from taking any action. There’s also an issue with my screen, where it goes black, and all the buttons freeze. I’ve opened a case with Toyota on all this, but there's been no resolution. All these issues are occurring in my 2023 Tundra Limited, which I bought about 2 months ago.
2021 sienna has similar wind noise issues.
Man that sucks ! Sorry to hear that it’s such a beautiful truck to. It definitely makes me want to wait a few years later for the Gen4 Tacoma and so I’ll definitely keep my gen3 for a while now until they work out bugs in the gen4 I’m pretty confident they will have .
Happy with my 2019 platinum going on 120k with zero issues. It tolls my Winnebago 30 foot trailer with no issues. Will drive it until the tires fall off. Hope Toyota goes back with the v8 engine. I get better gas mileage also at 17 hi-way and around 10 towing the trailer.
Nice. If it was lifted and on 37s it would not get better MPG. Mine was around 20-21 before the lift and tires.
Hopefully people like you making others aware of the fit and finish issues will put pressure on Toyota to refresh this model asap.
Don't re-fresh, I just want them to get it right
I'm at roughly 10k miles on my 23 TRD pro. No window rattling for me at this point. Haven't honestly had any problems with mine at all at this point(knocking on wood). Hope you can get some remediation for it soon.
Glad yours is solid!
Totally agree that the window issue is bs... would in channel window visors fix? Just a thought... Maybe you've already tried that. If not, worth a shot
My truck has been good but my plastic on the driver seat is cracking im actually on my second one
I get the rattle when go over any bumps. It’s small noise but is annoying. It’s from the window and window strip seal. It’s like the window strip at top needs to be thicker so glass has a better seal as well as fit tighter so no play. With the window up the strip has play when I press up at different spots
If Toyota can’t fix the rattle try some side window deflectors from Weather Tech. They may keep most of the wind off the windows and stop the rattle.
I’d be all about that but it also does it with bumps in the road too, not sure if the deflectors will help a ton
Just bought put the downpayment ob my 2024 tundra limited with trd off road package. Picking up in two days. Cant wait to take it out on road trips.
Heck ya dude!!! Congrats!
Good heads up on the magic box.
Haven’t had the window issue.
Pooches looked un phased🤙
They love road trips!!
Mike, which Toyota do you have?
23 platinum
As a longtime tampa resident so many people are moving here its making my commute awful
I wonder if rain guards/wind deflectors will help with the window rattle?
Will try if there is no fix
I added window visors and didn’t help very much.
I had the AVS low profile wind visors and thought the noise was coming from it. I removed them and the rattle still there.
I just rolled over 10K in my 2023 Platinum. No rattling, yet. Only problem, that I have found, is the "under the knee" part of the automatic seat has stopped working. Don't use it much, but still shouldn't stop working before 10k miles on such an expensive truck, IMHO.
Glad to hear!
If those things u have in the window are working for ya then try some in channel wind deflectors. But I also believe it’s the track it’s sitting inside behind the panel as stated before by other comments.
My ‘96 Tacoma recently started leaking air from the driver side window. This thing has been around longer than I have but I cannot imagine a new truck doing that and the company having a lame explanation. They don’t make them like they used to….
2022 SR5 with 10K miles - I have the same issue with my windows rattling and it drives me nuts! Took it in to the dealer and they replaced the door seals cuz they thought that was the fix but nope. It’s actually really really annoying to drive the way it is, just down a normal road can be 10-30mph and it just shakes as if the window is not seated in the channel correctly or something.
YEP!!! SO annoying. Is your truck stock?
Nope has spacer lift up front (going to swap for Wescott soon) and 35’s on 18 inch wheels. I just can’t imagine that being the issue. It honestly seems like the windows are loose in the door and they are shifting up and down. I also saw on another one of your reviews how loose your windows were when you pulled them up, so I tried the same. My thoughts are it’s the window bouncing up and down and not sitting properly inside of the door vs the door being sealed properly.
I love all of your videos Jon. Gorgeous truck!!!!!!
Thanks so much!!!
Windows make the noise around 80 in mine. They tried adding stripping and it still thumps. Also 10 months now without a second key. Really think we need a class action at this point just to get keys
Yea the key thing is just stupid...but they can keep making them...
@TRDJon, regarding the window rattle, I wonder if you could post a survey on your channel for the window rattle issue and whether those affected have the standard side view mirrors or the tow mirrors?
I have a '22 1794 with standard mirrors and a standard bed. I don't have the window rattle, but I do have what I consider a driver door gasket noise that is very slight and very intermittent, and an intermittent wind noise from the RR passenger door. My dealer has attempted to fix these without parts replacement, which has minimized the noise and frequency of the events, but has not eliminated them. I plan to bring it up again during my 20K service likely in December.
My old truck had normal mirrors and it rattled too. I feel it may have something to do with the window channel.
Hey Jon. I have my 23 platinum as well and I a similar rattle. I hear it coming from the passenger rear. Randomly opened my Pano roof to enjoy the weather and the rattle went away. Closed it, then rattle came back. I can duplicate this 100% of the time. Have u tried that? My dealer said they can take it apart and investigate further but I choose not to. It doesn't bother me enough "yet" haha
Thanks for the info, that is interesting. If you put pressure on my window the noise goes away. So I know mine is the window itself or the surrounding area.
I have the 2023 Tundra LTD Crew Cab TRD package and the window noise is not a problem as much as the rattling center console. If I drive local streets that are at all bumpy, the console rattles away -- and it's annoying.
Hey Jon, if you like the Tampa area definitely check out Dunedin when you come back. Lots of awesome properties for sale around here and its a nice quite town with lots of fun nightlife in walking distance. It's also situated about 20-30 minutes from everything in the area like downtown tampa, st pete etc.
Thanks for the tip!
Mango's and Marley!!
Yeh my driver side has an irritating whistling noise comin through the driver door or window if its windy or going over 50. Rear windshield rattles ALOT if i put it down even a little bit.
Hopefully you can get that fixed!
I have a 22 limited that’s at 20k miles and I haven’t experienced this at all thank God
So far, no window rattling on my '23 Sequoia trd pro. Hope it stays that way!
Hope it does too for ya
Love your videos and can't wait to see you review and provide content on the new Tacoma when it comes out. I noticed your Tundra has gloss black fender flares like the new Tacoma TRD Pro will have. How do you like them and do them hold up well or show scratches easily?
I like them more then the textured plastic honestly.
Not an acceptable solution but would rainguards help stop the window rattle?
I'll have to see. I want them to check it put prior to doing that.
Love the content Jon looking at getting a tundra myself. Noticed you were looking at Westbay homes in Mirada. Great option especially with all the amenities and equity. If you need any info on the area I’d love to share it with you.
Your fuel economy isn’t that bad with the 37’s. Those 14% larger so add 14% to your MPG numbers and miles per tank. 16.2mpg is 18.4mpg, that’s dang good!
The window issue sucks for sure. I don’t know what’s going on with manufactures right now, but many all new vehicles just don’t seem like they were tested long term before selling them.
Dang if that math adds up then that is AWESOME!
What is the brad of your pet backseat cover?
Thankfully I don’t have that issue, mine is a 2022 tundra limited non hybrid with 21000 miles and zero issues!!!! (Yet)
It's funny you are having issues with the window rattling. I had a 2017 Toyota Tacoma with exactly the same issue after a few trips back and forth to the dealer I reached out the Toyota And they told me it's a truck the rattling is normal you would think several years later it was already solved this issue in a brand new truck
Normal for a window to rattle is such a pathetic excuse...especially when not ALL of them do this.
Toyota is purposefully not fixing known problems. It’s either cheaper to not fix them or it’s planned obsolescence. Try getting a 2005 chassis recall and then a 2017 with the same recall. What’s the point of Toyotas high resale value if the dealer over charges and their vehicles aren’t reliable. Toyota is falling off.
I bought a toyota and was told that the truck could be serviced and taken care of at any toyota dealer that I take it to due to me paying for a extra package. When I took it to a different dealer they told me that they couldn't. Where I bought it which was 4 hours away told me to report them to the Southeastern toyota department. I was told that the popping in my steering wheel they couldn't fix it (When I turn right) and some other things. They told me that I still have plenty of warranty so just bring it back if it gets worse.
What??? I've never heard this. It is a Toyota and the dealer will service it no matter where you are in the USA
Thats why I stick to my 4Runners have a Limited & a Trd Pro ( Lyme rush ) 😊
‘22 1794 with 16k miles - I’ve had the same “fuh fuh fuh fuh” rattling noise since I first got this truck in December 2021. Reported to the dealer, changed weather stripping on the window, and added felt pads in the trim, but no dice. It’s infuriating and ruins what would otherwise be a quiet and comfortable drive.
Agreed. It is the only thing inside (aside from my seat) that makes any sort of noise.
That fuel economy aint half bad for that lift and 37's. If I did it right that is just about 18mpg actual versus the 15.8 displayed to correct for the tire diameter.
LETS GOOOOO I’m good with that
I live within 1.5 miles from Pop stroke! Hit me up if you’re think of moving to the Wesley Chapel/Lutz/Land O Lakes area. I’m a utility worker and I’m VERY FAMILIAR with most of the Pro’s and Con’s of the surrounding neighborhoods.
Nice!!! We went to the one in Sarasota actually. We are looking in the Parrish area.
I have two crazy theories. One is window tint. I have read across many car communities that after tint people start hearing more noise. Maybe when it’s installed the seal gets bent or moved every so slightly or added friction makes something happen, how I have no idea lol but it is an aftermarket product. I personally have never had a problem with tint. My second crazy theory is the vinyl wrap on the A pillars. Is it possible the added thickness of the wrap creates some sort of air flow issue? Once again I do not know how likely either is, just crazy theories. I have a 23 sr5 Trd off-road, it rattles a lot but overall it’s been really good and no window noise yet or at least anything I notice. When it comes to vehicles people have very strong opinions, I have never owned a truck. I choose the Tundra because compared to Ford, Ram and Chevy with comparable features it was 5-10 grand cheaper. Also they all have their issues, it’s just the world we live in. Would I get another one? Probably not, but only because I think I am more of a sedan / van (ultimate family hauler) guy honestly. Keep up the great content.
If it is tint then that is pathetic imo. It is SO thin. If a modern vehicle can't have window tint then i'm selling it and never looking back.
@@TRDJon yeah like I said I have never had that issue either with tint and it’s just a crazy theory but stranger things have happened. I would be interested to see what Toyota tells you as there seems to be no fix. I will probably keep my tundra for a year and move on. Quality is really crappy as you have found out twice now lol.
Window rattle present before window tint? I’ve heard some stories of others who have rattle after window tinting (not just tundra owners).
No. But it started at 4K miles. Tint had been on since like 300 miles
@@TRDJonhow long has the lift / tires been on the truck?
Since about 5K miles.
2022 tundra. Windows rattle and almost sounds like wind coming thru my passenger side. I've had the molds replaced and still rattle. Dealership said there is nothing they can do right now. Super annoying.
So frustrating!
Are you still on the stock black axle? I heard people said when you lift higher than 2 inch, you need the red axle. Any problems if your are stock black?
I am at the moment. No issues yet.
Mine (Driver's side) window has alot of wind noise about 40+ mph, seals around window replaced once already.
Ugh.......
I'm so lucky my Trd pro don't rattle only the stereo and the seats rattle or have a rubbing sound
I fixed the rattle myself with a set of "in the channel rain visors" for the windows.
Will look into those if the dealer doesn't have a fix.
Best thing about Tampa is moving away from Tampa. I grew up in Tampa and witnessed it go from good to bad. I'm so glad I finally moved away. 37's just overwhelm the rims. Florida Lemon Law will fix that issue on the truck, because they will have to buy it back from you and then the rattle goes away with the truck.
I seen one with 34’s looked really nice
What is the height of the 2024 with the 3 inch lift ? I am looking for a new truck, but it needs to fit in the garage. I currently have a F150 with a fox level kit.
For a dedicated road tripper, may I suggest the Acura MDX?
Heard great things about it. Really looking into the Grand Highander
Hi, I recently installed a leveling kit on my 23 Tundra and right after that it started displaying pre-collision system malfunction. Sadly that same day I went through some flooding so I don't know wich of the events caused the issue, have you had this problem?
I'm looking to do the same lift and wheels - how tall is yours from ground to bottom of door?
37’s and getting better fuel economy than my 2019 with 33’s is pretty impressive.
Oh man really?
15.4😮, that's not what we want in a hybrid. I get that in my 08 . Now i don't have 37's, but 295's, which are close to 35's. Great looking Tundra, sucks about the rattle. Hopefully, by the time im ready to buy this problem, it is resolved.
Mine actually ins't a hybrid. Just normal TTV6
Dealer is probably gonna blame the tires for causing the window rattle. My passenger side upper tow mirror glass shakes pretty bad on my Pro and 2 dealers now have blamed the 34’s I have on it for the cause of it. Even though the shake isn’t a consistent shake like it would be from tires, it happens more when there’s a gust of wind, or I’m passing a larger truck. But neither of them cared, just passed it off and blamed the tires even though I told them that it has been a problem even with the stock tires.
Surprisingly I haven’t noticed any window rattles like you have. I’ll haveta keep an eye out tomorrow when I drive it and see if mine move around. I def don’t hear any rattle noises though.
Lol so you can’t put 1 once bigger tires on a full sized truck? That’s pathetic if that dealer says that. Hopefully you can get it fixed.
@@TRDJon we’ll see. They were supposed to talk to their Toyota rep about it. It’s been almost a month, so not holding my breath lol
I’ve been keeping an eye on that window shutter, doesn’t seem like mine has it. Mine’s fairly quiet and not moving
I’ve got a new Tundra 1794. Rear bumper cap on right (passenger) side is not connected to main bumper. They said It’s common and bracket is on back order. Told me it would be 30 days. Now at 60 days. Not pleased.
Thats just annoying
Oh it looks like you still have your 4runner ❤
For now 🤔
Clean.
Beautiful color
I think so too!
Window rattle isn't "normal." That's ridiculous.
Dude....Getting tire of it.
It’s annoying and now that we know is there, you can hear more and more.
Toyota ended up buying back from me my 2022 tundra limited, brakes were cristalizing, screen was always going black, bed always rattled, was never reperable, then I got a 2023 trd pro, same issues, Toyota took it back. What a big disappointment, I went back to a highlander
I wonder if that wind noise is only an issue for tundras with Tow mirrors
I have less wind noise on this truck then my last one which didn't have tow mirrors.
i thought you said you were going to make a video about a power module? was it corrupted or something?
Didnt work as intented.
Does the Sequoia have this issue? I would guess the front doors are the same on the Tundra and Sequoia????
Ours never did it.
nope nope nope. I refused to get a truck that is 70K and have those problems. good channel TRD JON
Thanks!
Man that's weird mine so far is really quite no noise in trips, is that truck make noise or feel something on the seat back it feel like lose
What are you trying to say man?
@gerrybaker1422 my driver seat make noise or feel like something lose when i put my back like the lumbar part, hope that helps
Yea like a crunching sound
@TRDJon yes wth is that? Toyota is fixing that?
@@TRDJon yes! Is toyota fixing that?
The window noise isnt normal... 75k for a truck they need to have all these things ironed out
Man. That sucks. My truck hasn’t rattled at all. Brutal.
I'm glad for you!
You were definitely calm about the window, all considering. I wonder if Toyota would have been wiser to wait until after all the Covid chaos to bring out the current Tundra. With all the supply chain issues and people working from home at that time, perhaps some of these annoyances that are not acceptable for a new truck would have been caught if they had waited.
Move after the housing market crashes
When is that? Cuz the trends are up for the next 5 years...
@@TRDJon no one knows but it seems like we’re at the top now
I'm sure that's what people said in the past every time it goes don't. No waiting here man. Gotta make moves.
Love my truck. Have 600 miles on my 2023 limited but I did just have my headliner replaced & front seats repaired due to rattles. Lucky my dealership is good.
Dang in only 600 miles for all that? Glad though your dealer fixed it as they should.
Toyota use to have a much better reputation for quality, how do you allow a vehicle continue to have such a annoying problem.
I just took my brand new 24 tundra on a long road trip and had no window noise issues. Maybe they finally fixed it!
Mind didn't start tille around 4K miles. Hopefully yours stays solid!
I drive a 2021 GMC Sierra 1500 and I have never had any rattling in the windows.
My 2014 Silverado never did either.
Looked like you were in downtown fort Myers
Bradenton at Oak and Stone
That rattle is why I'm going to keep my 2016 Tacoma, 2021 v6 Highlander and buy a new 2024 4runner or a used GX460. Toyota is being forced (by government regulations) to make their cars lighter and more "efficient" = cheaper.
It’s not the window that makes whistle noises, it’s shitty manufacture design.
Toyota replaced the window seal on my truck twice but could not fix the problem. They asked me to call toyota head quarter because this is a known problems for all the 3rd gen Tundras.
I’m looking for right side bumper step to match
Havent seen that option yet.
Could the rattling be because of those giant tow mirrors.
No