Yeah there are some other pieces I think I'd like to talk about. Drift, a secret thing, some mysteries I've discovered, comparison of RTK vs GNSS-only... maybe a bit about the case. ProRes 422 is 10-bit by its nature, you need ProRes Raw to exceed that, unfortunately.
In regards to your note at 5:04 about moving the RTK station... I've been talking with the DJI engineers, and hypothetically if you replace the RTK back to the same spot, you should be able to recall the coordinate data and fly the same routes again. HOWEVER, this doesn't seem to work well in practice. At a construction site, I poured a 4x4 concrete pad, drilled a small hole in the middle, and every time I return to the site with the drone to get site update shots (I'm trying to do a long-term timelapse) I place the tip of the RTK-2 into that hole, level the tripod, level the unit- basically, it's as if all I've done between days is reboot the RTK because it's returned to the EXACT same position. But no matter what I try, I'm constantly getting varying ellipsoidal heights- often up to 10 meters different. This doesn't just happen between days; this sometimes happens if I simply reboot the RTK-2 in the same day. This sometimes happens randomly mid-flight. The DJI engineers keep telling me this is normal, which is insane given that the "centimeter-level" language is everywhere in the marketing, but in actuality they seem to be cool with 30ft variations. Have you had any similar issues?
RTK definitely did not seem to provide its MSRP in value in terms of filmmaking, repeatable routes, accuracy, drift, etc. it was helpful like 20-25% of the time, max! I don’t use it at all and have never bought one for myself.
There are no videos for the inspire 3 that demonstrate the correct settings for the exposure and things like that. All of my footage seems to be too dark or to blown out and I have yet to find a good lut for the inspire 3
Stills are good! Heavy files. I’ll have to do a little ISO / dynamic range comparison I2-I3 I guess, that’s about the only other way to compare. I was chatting with Jordan at PetaPixel too, that the lens field curvature is more pronounced because we’re seeing *all* of the 24, 35, and 50mm, due to the larger sensor. Details in the sides of the frame aren’t as clear/defined as we’re used to on X7, but there is plenty of detail to go ‘round!
@@askyellowhouse compared to say a Sony A1 - A7rV ? you think its a pro camera for stills? I was pretty disappointed with the X7 and its softness. Thanks for your quick reply! Do you have any downloadable raws for us to check out? Its strange no one has reported on this!
I have been happy with the X7's stills quality so maybe I'm the wrong person to ask. I still shoot stills on Nikon D610s for corporate work. I don't know that this will be much sharper, as it's the same glass, but it might be better suited for a sharper image given the higher resolution. Of course as I mentioned, you're battling field curvature on a huge sensor, too, though. I'll put two DNGs in the DJI Inspire 3 Owners Facebook Group. :)
Hello Arden, hey I am a hobby guy , followed your videos for awhile now!!! A lot of questions - my first is why someone your level does not use tb-50 battery station? Another is use of carbon fiber props? i have so many points about inspire 2 and tb-50 and a battery guy? All my flights are only battery maintenance only - depth of discharge and temp- swing temps- My huge problem with the cendence is no dedicated landing switch and landing gear not working use cendence as piliots controller!! Very scary problem with carbon fiber props!!! I would love to see a flight time video done correctly!! Means opening battery page many times and show us cell voltages - battery take off temp- and swing temp- landing temperatura- I undersatand this level of flight time review is almost impossible? Flying a battery with over 50c internal temp is not recomended!!!! Some points you say are interesting others i do not agree 100% - Dji stated about inspire 2 its 15min of flight time and 3.7 v per cell is landing now!! I also incluid 50c internal temp!! DJI states upto 23min x7 - i bet its hard to break 15min - and maybe you can get 18 min max on a new set of tb-50 landing safe , the problem is depth of discharge degrades battery , one professional i know is only flying to 40% for the reason of all the puffed battery sets he has easy 20 -30 sets he also does not have a battery station ? Because it costs money not many like what i say and only one other guy got one from me and he is a hobby piloto really funny stuff!! Another is cycles and cell voltage sage at takeoff?
Stability looks leaps and bounds about the I2. It was my biggest gripe with it as usually I dont do many high and wide shots, its always close in, slow, low to the ground movements which makes its bouncing around (or merry little dance as i call it) very frustrating. Going by that comparison clip at the end it seems to be a lot steadier in the air at low speed? did you try it with the 50mm to really test how steady it is?
I don't think you need a 50mm to see the improvements! It performed similarly over a rocky river's edge the other day, as well. Quantifying *how much* better it is, is difficult without just doing more I2 vs I3 comparison videos. :) I'll see about including one or two more comparisons in the next vid, but to some extent, you just gotta take my word for it: It's much better!
@@askyellowhouse Fantastic to hear from first hand experience! my 4 big wishlist items was the drone being steady at low speeds and in general, better framerate options, better video and remote connection qualities and a useable FPV camera. It was great to see them all address in your video! How do you find the dolly mode? is it practical to set up?
It's also a lot more stable than the I2 while hovering. A friend & me did some long exposure photography tests at night the other day and shots of several sec were no problem. Things actually only got a bit blurry at the full 8 sec. Leaps & bounds, considering the I2 could maybe do 1/2 sec.
@@mmcphotographyirl Maybe you're thinking of tripod mode? It's the third option on the mode switch. Normal - Sport - Tripod. Much like the Mini 3's C-N-S switch (Cine - Normal - Sport). Super useful. Takeoff in normal, Sport to get where you're going, flip to Cine, film film film, Sport home, Normal to land!
Great to see you making another video, you were missed. Love your content mate, really great stuff. Question: You mention in your video that the native ISO of the X5S is 800, where did you get this from? I've always thought it was ISO 100... I can't see ISO 800 listed as the native ISO anywhere in the X5S manual.
Thank you! Regarding X5S ISO: Hmmm. I seem to recall something like in the early days of X5S, EI mode would lock the X5S at 800, and then an update unlocked the ability to change again. I can’t find much on the internet about it being 800 though so I may be mistaken.
@@askyellowhouse Cool, thanks so much for the reply. I've always shoot with the X5S in manual, don't really know about EI mode. Have always stuck with 100 ISO at 1/50 @ 25fps or 1/100 @ 50fps.
Great video really looking forward to more since you are first person to make a video like this - flight time be interesting what happens and warning come up? My biggest worries is Atti mode? Does inspire 3 have true Atti like inspire 2 - this function is a deal breaker as a hobby guy - i fly into wind as far as possible and just let it drift back!!! This kind of flight i have never seen anyone do on youtube, most people have no idea whats going on? My perspective is totally differant!!! Thank you so much your video, they are very good!!!
Great question! Mode switch is GPS, Sport, and “Other” we’ll call it. The default is Tripod mode, kind of like the Mini 3’s C-N-S switch. I have to look into the menu more for ATTI etc! And oh yes, flight time and a few other awesome changes are coming in another video!
Soooo, Am I bit stupid, or did they put the AEB (bracketing) function in a silly place ? Can't believe a drone in that price-range doesn't have that, but I've been going through the menus over & over again and I can't find it in the manual either. ...
@@askyellowhouse That's incredible ! I mean even my mini 3 has AEB. Time to write DJI a constructive letter and then remove -all- most of the curse-words.
Hi :) I have some questions, hope you have the time to answer :) We are considering the dji inspire 2 with x5s, is it a good enough upgrade over the mavic 3? Or should we save up and buy the inspire 3?
Depends what you’re looking for. If different lenses then yes - honestly for anything other than daily film work, I2 is wonderful and capable. But Mavic 3 is super capable already and much less hassle.
To be honest, you should keep making videos like this. I did learn from your i2 video allot :). I got two i2 kits and planning to buy i3 as we are based in Dubai and every client is looking for fully updated drone and wanted to shoot highest like 8k but output is 99% HD :). anyway thanks for your tutorial and keep doing it
@@davidjayamazingkitesurferp3819 it's not for live feed, we shoot for film production and corporate clients. Film production always ask us to shoot max resolution as X7 dose 6K and DNG. most of client are ok with ProRes RAW or 4444 but all social media client go with max resolution recording but end of final out at most of the time HD. did't get chance to shoot with i3 yet but love to shoot 8K 75 which is standard for all film production camera system.
@@davidjayamazingkitesurferp3819 An esp relevant question when at least 80% of the content created will be viewd on mobile phones! That being said, the ability to record 4k at 120FPS is great. that and having a 50p/60p framerate that doesnt crop.
Re: 8K, everyone in Dubai always wants the best of the best, no matter the cost. There's a market for 8K there, lol. Gonna go shoot some 4K120 tonight! Stoked.
Great machine! But what I don't like or even hate it this bulky RC adopted from the M30. From a pilot's perspective the old but good RC paired the a chrystal was the best to handle with especially for a pintcher like I am. These classic ergonomics I love so I will stick with the I2 as long as I can! And to be honest the I2 is still great and more we even deserve, lol
Yeah the I2 still produces great quality!! The setup of RC Plus is faster because you don’t have to attach anything to it (haha) but I see how yes, now we’re forced to look between our hands rather than above them 😢
@@askyellowhouse Yes, the deep look down between the hands as an other down side. This RC Plus should have stay in the enterprise universe. I dream of an indipendent RC link of one's choice to be able to use a radio one like e.g. an OpenTX one. But this will never happen, haha!
Good to see you back on the tube!
We're back! Your guess is as good as mine whether it'll stick!
@@askyellowhouse Any more reviews on the I3 would be welcome! Do you know its Bit Depth?
Yeah there are some other pieces I think I'd like to talk about. Drift, a secret thing, some mysteries I've discovered, comparison of RTK vs GNSS-only... maybe a bit about the case.
ProRes 422 is 10-bit by its nature, you need ProRes Raw to exceed that, unfortunately.
Some focus testing , or depth of field examples with the full frame sensor would be nice.
I could do DOF for sure, not sure what else to do with focus. Thoughts?
Thanks for the review Arden!
Thanks for watching! Let me know what you want to see next!
amigo-that is breathtaking dji,
Very in-depth review! Great work Arden!
Agree
Very useful, cheers for your efforts !
Thanks Peter!
Finally and honest real review! Thumbs up
Thanks for watching!
thanks! still loving my inspire 2
Congrats. Very nice video. Liked. Subbed. Watching it from Brazil. All the best.
In regards to your note at 5:04 about moving the RTK station... I've been talking with the DJI engineers, and hypothetically if you replace the RTK back to the same spot, you should be able to recall the coordinate data and fly the same routes again.
HOWEVER, this doesn't seem to work well in practice. At a construction site, I poured a 4x4 concrete pad, drilled a small hole in the middle, and every time I return to the site with the drone to get site update shots (I'm trying to do a long-term timelapse) I place the tip of the RTK-2 into that hole, level the tripod, level the unit- basically, it's as if all I've done between days is reboot the RTK because it's returned to the EXACT same position. But no matter what I try, I'm constantly getting varying ellipsoidal heights- often up to 10 meters different. This doesn't just happen between days; this sometimes happens if I simply reboot the RTK-2 in the same day. This sometimes happens randomly mid-flight. The DJI engineers keep telling me this is normal, which is insane given that the "centimeter-level" language is everywhere in the marketing, but in actuality they seem to be cool with 30ft variations. Have you had any similar issues?
RTK definitely did not seem to provide its MSRP in value in terms of filmmaking, repeatable routes, accuracy, drift, etc. it was helpful like 20-25% of the time, max! I don’t use it at all and have never bought one for myself.
There is action per waypoint - "Hover" - that might have done what you were intending to? Stopping at each waypoint for a moment?
I suppose!
The test was more of accuracy than film. The drone did it the “film” way but for accuracy, I think you’re right!
Good to see all this! Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching! It's been a pleasure testing the I3. It's hard to get through it all in just a few days. :)
Great video!
Thanks Logan! Glad to be back 😅
Inspire drones are so f**king cool.
Still rocking the Inspire 1 Raw 😂
There are no videos for the inspire 3 that demonstrate the correct settings for the exposure and things like that. All of my footage seems to be too dark or to blown out and I have yet to find a good lut for the inspire 3
Hey Arden Any report on stills quality???
Stills are good! Heavy files.
I’ll have to do a little ISO / dynamic range comparison I2-I3 I guess, that’s about the only other way to compare.
I was chatting with Jordan at PetaPixel too, that the lens field curvature is more pronounced because we’re seeing *all* of the 24, 35, and 50mm, due to the larger sensor. Details in the sides of the frame aren’t as clear/defined as we’re used to on X7, but there is plenty of detail to go ‘round!
@@askyellowhouse compared to say a Sony A1 - A7rV ? you think its a pro camera for stills? I was pretty disappointed with the X7 and its softness.
Thanks for your quick reply! Do you have any downloadable raws for us to check out? Its strange no one has reported on this!
I have been happy with the X7's stills quality so maybe I'm the wrong person to ask. I still shoot stills on Nikon D610s for corporate work.
I don't know that this will be much sharper, as it's the same glass, but it might be better suited for a sharper image given the higher resolution. Of course as I mentioned, you're battling field curvature on a huge sensor, too, though.
I'll put two DNGs in the DJI Inspire 3 Owners Facebook Group. :)
Hello Arden, hey I am a hobby guy , followed your videos for awhile now!!! A lot of questions - my first is why someone your level does not use tb-50 battery station? Another is use of carbon fiber props? i have so many points about inspire 2 and tb-50 and a battery guy? All my flights are only battery maintenance only - depth of discharge and temp- swing temps- My huge problem with the cendence is no dedicated landing switch and landing gear not working use cendence as piliots controller!! Very scary problem with carbon fiber props!!! I would love to see a flight time video done correctly!! Means opening battery page many times and show us cell voltages - battery take off temp- and swing temp- landing temperatura- I undersatand this level of flight time review is almost impossible? Flying a battery with over 50c internal temp is not recomended!!!! Some points you say are interesting others i do not agree 100% - Dji stated about inspire 2 its 15min of flight time and 3.7 v per cell is landing now!! I also incluid 50c internal temp!! DJI states upto 23min x7 - i bet its hard to break 15min - and maybe you can get 18 min max on a new set of tb-50 landing safe , the problem is depth of discharge degrades battery , one professional i know is only flying to 40% for the reason of all the puffed battery sets he has easy 20 -30 sets he also does not have a battery station ? Because it costs money not many like what i say and only one other guy got one from me and he is a hobby piloto really funny stuff!! Another is cycles and cell voltage sage at takeoff?
Stability looks leaps and bounds about the I2. It was my biggest gripe with it as usually I dont do many high and wide shots, its always close in, slow, low to the ground movements which makes its bouncing around (or merry little dance as i call it) very frustrating. Going by that comparison clip at the end it seems to be a lot steadier in the air at low speed? did you try it with the 50mm to really test how steady it is?
I don't think you need a 50mm to see the improvements! It performed similarly over a rocky river's edge the other day, as well. Quantifying *how much* better it is, is difficult without just doing more I2 vs I3 comparison videos. :)
I'll see about including one or two more comparisons in the next vid, but to some extent, you just gotta take my word for it: It's much better!
@@askyellowhouse Fantastic to hear from first hand experience! my 4 big wishlist items was the drone being steady at low speeds and in general, better framerate options, better video and remote connection qualities and a useable FPV camera. It was great to see them all address in your video!
How do you find the dolly mode? is it practical to set up?
It's also a lot more stable than the I2 while hovering.
A friend & me did some long exposure photography tests at night the other day
and shots of several sec were no problem. Things actually only got a bit blurry
at the full 8 sec. Leaps & bounds, considering the I2 could maybe do 1/2 sec.
@@mmcphotographyirl Maybe you're thinking of tripod mode? It's the third option on the mode switch. Normal - Sport - Tripod. Much like the Mini 3's C-N-S switch (Cine - Normal - Sport). Super useful.
Takeoff in normal, Sport to get where you're going, flip to Cine, film film film, Sport home, Normal to land!
can't see the RC screen for all the reflections
The screen was at max brightness!
Great information, thanks!
Any update to your Inspire 3?
What would you like to know? Maybe I’ll do a 1yr later ;)
Great to see you making another video, you were missed. Love your content mate, really great stuff. Question: You mention in your video that the native ISO of the X5S is 800, where did you get this from? I've always thought it was ISO 100... I can't see ISO 800 listed as the native ISO anywhere in the X5S manual.
Thank you!
Regarding X5S ISO: Hmmm. I seem to recall something like in the early days of X5S, EI mode would lock the X5S at 800, and then an update unlocked the ability to change again.
I can’t find much on the internet about it being 800 though so I may be mistaken.
@@askyellowhouse Cool, thanks so much for the reply. I've always shoot with the X5S in manual, don't really know about EI mode. Have always stuck with 100 ISO at 1/50 @ 25fps or 1/100 @ 50fps.
Great video really looking forward to more since you are first person to make a video like this - flight time be interesting what happens and warning come up? My biggest worries is Atti mode? Does inspire 3 have true Atti like inspire 2 - this function is a deal breaker as a hobby guy - i fly into wind as far as possible and just let it drift back!!! This kind of flight i have never seen anyone do on youtube, most people have no idea whats going on? My perspective is totally differant!!! Thank you so much your video, they are very good!!!
Great question! Mode switch is GPS, Sport, and “Other” we’ll call it. The default is Tripod mode, kind of like the Mini 3’s C-N-S switch. I have to look into the menu more for ATTI etc!
And oh yes, flight time and a few other awesome changes are coming in another video!
Soooo, Am I bit stupid, or did they put the AEB (bracketing) function in a silly place ?
Can't believe a drone in that price-range doesn't have that,
but I've been going through the menus over & over again and I can't find it in the manual either. ...
There is no AEB 😢
@@askyellowhouse That's incredible ! I mean even my mini 3 has AEB. Time to write DJI a constructive letter and then remove -all- most of the curse-words.
Hi :)
I have some questions, hope you have the time to answer :)
We are considering the dji inspire 2 with x5s, is it a good enough upgrade over the mavic 3? Or should we save up and buy the inspire 3?
Depends what you’re looking for. If different lenses then yes - honestly for anything other than daily film work, I2 is wonderful and capable. But Mavic 3 is super capable already and much less hassle.
Very Cool! Thanks for the info.......😊
Very good video, thanks. Pity about the reflection on the screen. You should have tilted it about 45 degrees.
Copy, next time!
I would have if I had three hands 😆
Honestly though I think the next videos will be a little less “in the field” heavy.
Inspired!
To be honest, you should keep making videos like this. I did learn from your i2 video allot :). I got two i2 kits and planning to buy i3 as we are based in Dubai and every client is looking for fully updated drone and wanted to shoot highest like 8k but output is 99% HD :). anyway thanks for your tutorial and keep doing it
I only use 1080p -24-30??? 8k -75? And what monitor plays that resolution?
@@davidjayamazingkitesurferp3819 it's not for live feed, we shoot for film production and corporate clients. Film production always ask us to shoot max resolution as X7 dose 6K and DNG. most of client are ok with ProRes RAW or 4444 but all social media client go with max resolution recording but end of final out at most of the time HD. did't get chance to shoot with i3 yet but love to shoot 8K 75 which is standard for all film production camera system.
@@davidjayamazingkitesurferp3819 An esp relevant question when at least 80% of the content created will be viewd on mobile phones!
That being said, the ability to record 4k at 120FPS is great. that and having a 50p/60p framerate that doesnt crop.
Re: 8K, everyone in Dubai always wants the best of the best, no matter the cost. There's a market for 8K there, lol.
Gonna go shoot some 4K120 tonight! Stoked.
1tb - 8k -75 , is 30min record time or less so 2 flights? Thats 500usd a flight just in SSD
Great machine! But what I don't like or even hate it this bulky RC adopted from the M30. From a pilot's perspective the old but good RC paired the a chrystal was the best to handle with especially for a pintcher like I am. These classic ergonomics I love so I will stick with the I2 as long as I can! And to be honest the I2 is still great and more we even deserve, lol
Yeah the I2 still produces great quality!!
The setup of RC Plus is faster because you don’t have to attach anything to it (haha) but I see how yes, now we’re forced to look between our hands rather than above them 😢
@@askyellowhouse Yes, the deep look down between the hands as an other down side. This RC Plus should have stay in the enterprise universe.
I dream of an indipendent RC link of one's choice to be able to use a radio one like e.g. an OpenTX one. But this will never happen, haha!
We want Radiomaster, dammit!
maybe you should stay outta the sun
Good idea!