Gaza War Day 352 Group Discussion: What Happened to Us
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ย. 2024
- Louis, Mikey, Nora, Sina, Alex, and Joe join for our usual therapy session. We talk about the developing Israel-Lebanon war, the difficulty performing everyday life, Macklemore's new song, Hinds Hall 2, and the historical changes we're living through.
More people should really be doing this group therapy. We’re all struggling.
i was just thinking that i need something like this. seems like lots of people agree...
I do it with this group! I relate with so much of what they say that hearing it out loud is therapy and I don’t feel alone.
@@missypaws2500same!
This could be started. Def beats raging into the internet. I’m gonna work on it.
I would like this too. I spend a lot of time archiving for the accountability archive.
Thank you Justin, Louis, Mikey, Nora, Sina, Alex, and Joe for this much need therapy session for all of us! Love You All ! ♥️♥️♥️
Thank you all! ❤🇵🇸🔻FREE PALESTINE!
Thank you Justin ,Nora and the rest of the beautiful souls of this show. 🇵🇸❤️
Tankie Therapy is always good for the soul and mind
😂 👍 !
Thank you for being here today! It’s been a slightly more stressful week, eh?! 😫🇵🇸♥️✌🏼
I appreciate your group discussion because I feel isolated and alone with my strong emotions. The entire two days of chaos and terror in Lebanon and the complete disregard to the actual harm against so many people and kids, and sick reactions in the media here in the US horrified me, again. Thank you all for sharing your thoughts and feelings.
Huge love from Ireland to all the crew, you are one of the few things keeping me sane along with E.I. and friends.
Hello and love from Merseyside UK..❤️
Same back to you in Merseyside! Free Palestine! @@sheilahunter9426
I had a chat about world events with a random stranger at a bike shop. At the end he shook my hand and said "Thanks for the therapy session"! I told him about you and your therapy sessions. He's probably listening to this one.
So happy to see your dear faces ❤
Thank you for your humanity and honesty 🙏 from Netherland
These videos being frank about how this is tiring on an existential level keeps me grounded against all the gaslighting by the mass media
Justin, these sessions are Sooo important, the silence or avoidance in everyday life about the mscrs can be deafening.. It's suppressing depression.. 😔
You’d appreciate joining “electronic intifada” as well. They hold these sessions too. Nora is with EI also.
I really need this therapy session so as not to feel absolutely insane.
Thank you all 🙏
Your discussion about Macklemore’s Hind’s Hall 2 hits home with me. I was never a fan of Rap or Hip Hop but have since become a fan of Macklemore and especially Lowkey. I play their songs when I feel hopeless about the present situation and am uplifted.
Love to all of you from Darwin, Australia. Stay strong for a free Palestine 🇵🇸 ❤🇵🇸
Nora.. 🥺
You always bring me back from being numb to being human. Thank you all for what you do, I for one would be lost without you.
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you all being willing to have this conversation on video and sharing it with us is literally saving lives. I hope everyone who needs it, finds it .
Thank you Sina for the tough love and reminding me of the bigger picture.
Thank you for helping me cry
Thank you for your reporting and analysis!! All the dirt is coming out!
Sharing your frustration and anger from the heart of the Military Industreal Complex, El Segundo, California.
Thank you guys for sharing these sessions. I am from Chile and I feel so lonely in the pain and anger I have for what's going on. I honestly can't share with anyone. I know my country isn't directly responsible for what's happening, but see people going around their lives as if nothing is going on, it makes me feel like a weirdo. I almost feel embarrassed whenever I share what's happening in Palestine on my social media, not wanting to be the eternal downer. But I am forever affected by what happened and keeps happening. I will never be silent when injustice occurs. And I can't see some people the same way I used to, especially my friends from the USA 💔
You are not alone…
First time watching this "therapy" session and really appreciate the insights of all participants. Would've gladly listened for a few more hours 👍
You are all beautiful people. Thank you.
Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee
My heart and mind are with everyone who experience and witness this tragedy
Whenever I hold my grandchildren close and tight I can’t not feel the loss and suffering of every child that has been murdered or maimed in this genocide 💔😭💔😭 it’s something that just happens to me, even as they sit on my lap whilst we read, when I watch them play, or as I listen to their laughter and chatter, 😌 it’s all just so heartbreakingly confronting and often makes me feel so guilty for having safety and any joy in my life when so many others are suffering 🙏🇱🇧🇵🇸🇱🇧🇵🇸💔😭💔😭💔
Torn apart by what I feel for the Palestinians and my disgust at what Israel and the US is doing, I cry for those affected by this continual ongoing horror.
Hello Justin and beautiful friends. Thankfully you are here today. It's nearly 6am here in Sydney. 🇵🇸❤️🖤🤍💚
Thank you Justin, it’s always good to hear from you even though the circumstances being discussed are horrifying
Hinds Hall 2 hit me hard... I had to hold back my tears because I know if I open that door I'll never stop crying
Tears bring release, clarity, acceptance! And then we continue to move forward cslmly & peacefully.
@@missypaws2500I sit on the couch when the kids are asleep early in the morning and listen to my “Palestine playlist” and cry and feel stupid but it would be worse not to cry.
other ways to release trauma in the body include exercise, dance, throwing things (safely like plush toys against a wall), screaming into a pillow, orgasm, etc. Lean on any and all that feels best for you and keep going ❤
So true, I thought ISIS were the worst, incredibly I insanely had the thought that ISIS realised the value of children, trying to keep them and train them as Jihadi cubs, Israel IDF targets children and apparently have pictures of Palestinian children on their t-shirts bragging about the last they even have pictures of the young girl Hind. Pulling down pictures of Shereen at Al Jazeera offices, seriously
This ability to “see” is also a gift from God. Alhamdullilah, I would rather be awake and see things for what they are .
It's like a conveyor belt of absorbing and processing of unimaginable horror..
Keep talking about it team... Thank you for keeping it real🙌
Much respect to Toussaint Louverture who played an integral role in resisting the oppressors. The road to freedom was long and bloody… well worth it. Resistance is a must and we’re watching resistance in real time. Haiti did it, I have faith Palestinians will be free. It will be long and bloody but freedom is coming.
thank you all as always❤️🔥so needed & medicinal, so appreciate your rigorous hearts & minds 🙏🏾
Deepest gratitude and Love to all of you..."My God, It's A Lot"🎶
I belive all these group sitreps are all important to everyone following you guys to unpack what we have been feeling since onslaught in gaza happened and how it all evolved to where we are right now.. these sitreps certainly provided a venue to unload all our feelings, changes and processing.. it helps so much in keeping our mental health in check..thank you so much guys for doing this for us!
Love u all guys ❤
"The biggest insult to the memory of the Holocaust is not denying it, but using it as an excuse to justify the genocide of the Palestinian people." Norman Finkelstein
My heart to all y'alls in solidarity for liberation. TGT resets my heart and mind each time, thank you!
Thank you. I love these sesdions. Feels like a family
Was awaiting this episode.
Thank you all. Help us to navigate thru.
Thank you all for this! To hear others speak openly and honestly about their feelings, their struggles helps.
Regarding university Administration trying to suppress any voices... it's time for everyone to stop paying these places. We hold the power over the universities, the corporations, the governments, by holding back our spending from them. Everything we spend on gives them our power. We have the power and need to hold it for change.
If you have a 401-k, pension, investment account, know what your money is going towards. You have the power!!
Every penny removed saves lives all over the world. Don't think taxes are the only way they take our power. People think about taxes but many don't think about everyday spending or the retirement savings. Black Rock and other investment firms use your money as their power to control you.
So profoundly grateful to have found this as I am struggling. I am frightened about what seems inevitable, frightened for so many innocent people, and am unable to stop it. But I have been taught to never give up hop -- indeed, I feel no right to give up hope. Thank you for sharing your feelings; it helps.
I remember playing a trivia game with some friends a few years ago, and one of the questions was about Macklemore. As a Gen-Xer, my first reaction was something like "Never heard of them." Now, he's one of my favorite musicians. Fun fact: He's also active with the Land Back movement.
You’re all my favorites thank you
Thanks to all of you once again for sharing with all of us around the world what is happening in real time Norman alwar beautiful Cape Town SA
First time ive seen you guys come together.. Thank you for this podcast today. I've found my people in you❤ Thank you all x
Within our limited capacity we do what’s given us to do and surrender responsibility & result to the SELF who oversees the temporal play.
Free will means each one gets to choose, but only within a limited context.
These battles is what it takes for Arabs, Persians, Africans & others to rise up & take back power! Here’s to Unity & prosperity for all !
Your potential being?! Vulnerable, together, & sharing the hardest, most full of despair souls w/us all. Helps us all examine our own moment. Fear, dread, for my child's father, his other family in danger (almost all the time) in Lebanon, hits so close. Especially feeling helpless here, bc of the veils being blown away. Yes, dis-illusioned. But in solidarity w/world pushback.
Thank you so much! 🇵🇸🇵🇸
I understand Justin ! What Loui said , I felt every word . It was other things for me, I loved gardening, but now I just look at it and cry thinking it’s doesn’t really matter anyway with a genocide happening . Can’t even be bothered to look at plants anymore
To be mundane, how nice to see you in situ, with all your surroundings visible.
Thank you guys! ❤
Thank you all - What a fantastic conversation. Glad to know I wasn’t the only one experiencing all those emotions over all these events. The ‘Escalation to De-Escalation’ thesis beginning 56:55 is for me really really hit home. This perspective is significant & required as we witness these daily horrors. It is echoed in every speech by Resistance leaders who express their strategy & enact their strategy -which is frustrating Western imperialism. Also loved the Macklemore reactions....something about that new video that captures the entirety of the last year the collective pain/glory/perseverance of the Palestinians & those of us bearing witness.
Brilliant thank you, you help me endure ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽
I can't thank you enough for sharing your hearts❤Providing this container for my tears
I don't know if you guys realize the service you're providing for other people who are feeling the same way but are completely isolated in a sea of ignorant and apathetic people. Listening to you guys talk is like being seen in a way that is almost like looking in a mirror to make sure that you're still alive. What you said Justin about how you cope at work I'm doing the same thing dealing with clients as an artist. I could share tons with you guys
Thanks for the therapy, greatly appreciated ❤
I thank each you so much for sharing your hearts and thoughts with us. I share your views and pray for the resistance on all fronts.
thanks again for this, you're all the only thing keeping many of us sane
Hello, what a good surprise!!!!
Bless you all. Cannot thank you enough.
I don’t know how you guys deal with the hatred born from sheer disgust!
Thank you all for this essential sharing of collective grief.
I think it was Jon Elmer who said that we don't have the luxury of despair.
When I see Abubaker Abed and his smiling face and his optimism it shows me the resilience and steadfastness of all of these oppressed people.
What sustains Abubaker is knowing that we stand with all the Palestinian people.
They don't have a choice unlike the Israelis who can get on a plane and return to where their second passport came from.
I have this video that runs in my head from December of a father, in a Gaza hospital, holding his dead child in his arms- it is more than I can bear.
Being able to gather my son of 4½ years in my arms from his bed in the morning is just amazingly reassuring.
Thank you for the therapy session. So appreciate you all. Is anyone else feeling physical effects of this, I am in the west, my pain is nothing to what Palestinians experience. I feel a near constant burning sensation, a nervous system response maybe. I think a lot about the experience of all humanity and living beings, and those of us who cannot live normally knowing what is happening to other people, and their suffering is palpable to us, and it is sent out to us, we feel it across the world in our beings and bodies.
Absolutely feeling physical effects 😩 and so isolated , yesterday and had my 🇵🇸 🍉Palestinian shirt on and I saw a lady a total stranger wearing a Keffiyeh and we both looked at each other and walked towards each other and hugged and sobbed and I just said ‘I’m so happy to see someone else that cares” 🇵🇸🍉😭😭💔 it actually felt so real and comforting in that moment 🙏🇵🇸😌💔😭
Excellent as always
Nice to see you all.
Thank you thank you thank you for this ❤❤❤❤❤
Like the speaker from @12:45, I experienced an 'awakening'. I am starting to accept that there really is no end in sight, but cannot bring myself to care about degrees or career achievements. Thank you for this upload, you make us all feel less alone.
Thank you for this. Feel the same.
An exfoliation of layer upon layer of epidermis ... through out this year ... I never knew I could feel so RAW and yet so self-contained in a fierce fire of admiration for Palestine, Lebanon, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Iran and ** ALL ** of you. Infinite RESPECT and LOVE !!! Thank YOU ... thank you.
Relating to só much of what is being expressed by you all. Thank you!
Thanks so much guy's for these sessions it's thereupetic and keeps me sane you guys are gold.
Infinite gratitude for giving voice to all the depths of our experiences. You are an amazing group of humans. ❤
I love your honesty and not holding back
Beautiful words, Nora!
Thanks for helping me hold on to my love of humanity!
You are worth saving!
Because judgment day is coming for the West.
Oh, my sweet summer child. I've already rendered judgement. You just haven't heard yet.
Thank you. I really needed this today
Another nourishing hour with my dear, dear friends who don't know me... Sending big love, solidarity and gratitude
Dear Justin, thanks for these Sunday gatherings. I really like the way you all express your ideas and feelings, just like human beings (beyond the journalistic duty you perform). What you guys say is the way we feel and think, too. These meetings are heart warming. 🙏🏻
In another order of ideas, a couple of weeks ago I watched Alex's participation in the Spanish show "La Base". He was brilliant! (as usual). Please let him know that his contributions were excellent. 💯
Ah! And I have discovered Sina's show in YT. It's awesome, too. 🤩
Much needed conversation.
Things are so fast it's difficult if not impossible to keep up with. Thants our group of lovelies.
Nora I feel 💯the same way 😘
So much of what was said resonates with me. Thank you all SO much for these conversations, I could never express my gratitude to all of you.
Music unleashes emotion Nora..
People like you are actually free the silent ones are not.
Sina's rants are like oxygen for me. He's on that level.
What an amazing bunch all of you are❤ These immense tough and chaotic times we are living in shows the true colors of people. Its like a huge sieve is being used.
Me too, Nora.
Thank you, Justin, and company, my companions in this RL horror film, esp as I have no one in my life I can talk to about this, or who cares at all about Gaza.
I have been watching AJ again, which I had to stop some months ago, for sanity, when the nightmares started. Plus I know all the images by heart, rinse repeat. So my nightmares have returned, not sure if the unreal horror of the pager atrocity or watching AJ. The AJ theme music has memories like, "Ahhh, some real info and 'comforting' journalists, steadfastly doing their jobs in the face of their own and their family's targeted deaths...", but it also reminds me of last Fall & our non-winter. The Christmas I refused to celebrate, confounding my family and friends. The horror, frustration, grief, yelling crazily at the TV. So much horror, yes, Justin & Nora, that my brain can't process it. So, no more AJ, unless breaking news about Lebanon.
And I'm SO afraid Hizbollah was hugely damaged, and Israel makes good on turning them into Gaza. Another one is too much to contemplate. The people don't deserve that. Just because they stood with Palestine, at their own peril.
I'm very non-violent and anti-war, but I find myself wishing some forced empathy on the Israelis to shut up the singing and dancing, celebrating the pager attack. Like, everybody, Iran, etc, come on, join in, and take down this "state" which has lost any right to exist. But not really, not wanting war, I don't ever want war, but I HAVE come to believe that Israel can't exist as a state. They've crossed all red lines (gah, I hate that term, reminds me of Biden and all his lost red lines that weren't).
All that against the threat of nuclear war with Russia, which people seem to have no concern about, even though this is a far worse time that 1962's Cuban Missile Crisis. The MSM is largely responsible, for if they were honest about it, they'd have to acknowledge how stupid and reckless the US has been, and is. Not to mention Israel's nukes! I was watching a reaction video during the big attack, and people were constantly wondering if tactical nukes, esp the possible thermobaric bomb with the shockwave and mushroom shape. I have no doubt Israel would use strategic nukes (who's going to to retaliate, the US??), like a mad dog backed into a corner. I'm old, I don't care about me, but the sadness and disappointment that homo sapiens would or could do this to our beautiful blue home, is too much. Pretty much the same feelings I had as a 9yr old in 1962. Chimps on steroids, not just raiding the current out group, but the whole planet.
If you got this far, ty. It's just my (partial) vent and ty to Justin for running TT, a place where I can listen, and also scream at the darkness. 🕊️ 🔻🔻🔻🇮🇱 🇺🇸 💔🖤🤍💚🇵🇸🇱🇧🇾🇪
I too, am alone in my life if anyone to talk to about this horror that has changed me every single day. Changed the entirety of what I believed in and am disgusted that the whole world around me goes about daily life unaware of what is happening. So many of these same people are the same ones who in the past have asked how the Holocaust could have ever been allowed to happen or what would they have done if they had been alive when it was happening.
Beautifully put.
Please know you're not alone in your feelings and in your desire for this madness to stop. Every morning I wake up hoping for a revelation from all the world's "leaders" to stop the insanity and hatred.
We the people must not lose hope and must come together to stop supporting allowing evil to be perpetrated in our name. We must vote like everyone's life depends on it and never be silent about that. We must spend like every creature on the planet depends on it. We are all stuck on this tiny rock floating through space and no billionaire can ever remove us. Band together with neighbors, friends, strangers on the Internet, people in other countries.... make friends, find common ground and build the world we all need and want.
All the life’s priorities have changed , none of us who are” awake “ can ever go back to life before Oct 7th , and frankly , I don’t want to . The blue pill has taken root
As Louis puts it in the video: ‘all (remaining) illusions have been irreversibly shattered’.
Same here; I feel profoundly changed but can’t, yet, really describe exactly how.
Thanks
"It's actually what is keeping them together."
Depressing.
I love these Tankie sessions
Just want to add my voice to all those saying they're glad that you all do this. This level of constant trauma, updated in real time, and combined with the voices of laughing ghouls celebrating it or using threadbare lies to deny it, takes a serious toll on anyone who pays attention to it and tries to engage and do anything about it, and we really need to be finding ways to address the mental health impact of it both for ourselves and those around us and for the sake of our ability to participate in the struggle in one way or another.
And if you ever have a spot free, incidentally, I'd love to join you.
Reflection on the status quo is making an entrance ... Opening eyes to really see Empire and strengthening ourselves to speak out loud, like very loud!!!
“How do you negotiate existence because of what is happening in Gaza.”
Oct 7th, has changed me so much as to make me “not care” of what was important in life, to now seeing how unimportant it is in my life. I identify with you all. Thank you for giving me strength. I know I am not alone in my fear the future!
I feel like I haven’t had a minute to breathe since December 2019.
I struggle everyday with the reality that I am stuck living in a country that truly sickens me and question at times how I can continue to. Seeing exactly how vile and evil those running this country are is something I haven’t yet been able to comprehend. As an American, I would have never imagined the leaders of the country I was so proud of, has been a full on partner in this most horrific act of barbarism, evil and supremacy.