You had a couple of valid points. But a GTO is not for everybody. A GTO is for those truly unique individuals that wants to be different and does not want to own the typical Camaro, Mustang or Challenger.
EXACTLY! and that is why I love this car. It was hard for me to come up with things I "hate" they are all just things about the car that make it what it is. Also just a video trend I wanted to do, but in reality I absolutely love my GTO and will never get rid of it.
I definitely feel you on these points man! The whole tire issue has been a big thing for me on questioning whether or not I want to keep mine! Beautiful looking car though!!
You bring up some great points! But one of my biggest pet peeves is how literally everything in the car is electric. The seats, and gas cap cover are the ones that bother me the most. I absolutely love the car though, I have to really try to find things I don't like about it.
I somewhat agree with some of this, but I have an 06 and absolutely love it. I daily drove it for a few years and now don't have to, but I love it every time I get into it. The gas tank was originally under the car and made the trunk a lot bigger but US standards forced it to it's current location, so blame government oversight on that one. The biggest issue with mine is the cooling system--I've had to replace the radiator, water pump, thermostat, basically the whole system at one point or another. But when you get in there and replace most of the stock rubber bushings with poly it makes a huge difference and feels a lot better. I also found it interesting that you said there's no aftermarket support and then only mentioned some appearance stuff. I have a full exhaust including stainless long tube headers, a short-throw shifter, a performance intake manifold, a one-piece driveshaft, all the poly bushings I mentioned before, and yes some appearance stuff like the SAP front grilles made by GTOG8TA who makes a lot of repro SAP stuff for example.
Yes completely agree with you! I've had the car for about 8 years and daily drove it for 5 years. The car has always been amazing to me and absolutely love it. When making this video I was being VERY nit picky. My main gripe about the aftermarket support is for appearance modifications. There are just so few options when it comes to making the car look any different with just a few small companies such as GTOG8TA and MAVMAN who makes incredible products but can't keep up with orders. I think theres a big market for people in this community wanting to modify theirs to look differently from the next guys; maybe getting a new carbon hood or different style wing. Theres just few options comparatively to other platforms/chassis.
I agree on many of the issues... I own a 04 GTO in Finland in Europe, where they were never sold as new, and the only ones are private imports from the USA. I got mine because I’m a fan of Australian cars, have owned the car since 2008 already. But even the car is super rare in the whole continent, it really doesn’t fit into any category or car event here. The traditional muscle car guys don’t care about the car as it doesn’t look like a muscle car and is too new for them, the modern muscle car guys (Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, Charger etc) don’t care about the car as it doesn’t look like an American muscle car or have any retro look, the Japanese and European car guys don’t care for the car as it’s not Japanese or European... the sports car and grand touring car guys don’t even allow the car to enter their events as they claim that is just a muscle car and not a grand touring car... so everybody keeps telling that ”go to events for your car” and there are so few of these cars that of course there aren’t any events for just these cars... it would kind of fit to any of those events and cars, but nobody basically welcomes the 04-06 GTO to any event here. It’s too Australian or European style to the American car guys, too American for the European and Japanese car guys, too muscle car to the sports and grand touring car guys etc... I’ve been trying to defend the car for over 12 years but with no luck in many cases... and these are so unique cars! (And talk about finding parts for these here in North-Eastern corner of Europe, where they were never even sold as new and where General Motors has pulled away officially... I have to order even basic parts from the USA or Australia...) Still love the car for it’s uniqueness, looks and performance. Most people just seem to want to have and see the same car than everybody else (be it a Mustang, M3 or a Nissan...). Of course there are SOME people who get it.
Great post. I live in Sweden but also like the Australian cars and utes. I wondered what it would be like here and i guess you summed it up pretty well.
As a guy who is within a month or two of pulling the trigger on one of these cars, I can understand your complaints but I see all of these issues as being a result of the GTO being a somewhat rare collectible. The way I see it, you’re driving a car that wasn’t produced in huge numbers to begin with. As of today, they’ve been out of production for sixteen years. Having only been sold for three years, and being out of production for that long, these issues can be expected. I see them as a perfect car for a muscle car guy who wants to be a little different, and not follow the crowd. They’re more refined than something like a Mustang in terms of interior comfort. They’re more practical than a Corvette. Yet, even after all these years they will hang with those cars all day long. I’m currently a Mustang guy, and have been for a lot of years. My next purchase is likely to be my last car due to health reasons. For as much as I’d like to buy a new Coyote powered Mustang GT, I feel that a like new GTO will be more comfortable, looks more appropriate for a family man, yet has the power to remain competitive with the Ford 5.0, and does it for less money. Besides... even though people argue that these cars aren’t “real” GTO’s, I would beg to differ. General Motors calls them GTO, their registration paperwork says GTO, and they certainly have the muscle car recipe down pat. Sweet cars for sure.
Get one now if you can... i paid 16K for my used brazen orange 06, owned it for four years and now its worth 22K. These will only go up in value as the years pass.
I have considered it! Honestly I like the Pontiac look. Does look just like any other g6 or grand prix but the car is a GTO so I'm okay with representing the Pontiac name. I just wish there were some lip kits and small mods I could do to make the car look different from stock.
I highly recommend Mav Man product. He is the pioneer of aftermarket CF for the GTO and a standup guy. I was in the GTO scene from 2009-2016 and my 06 was the best car I have ever owned to this day. I hope to own another soon!
Love his products! I was going to order a carbon diffuser from him but I was quoted that the wait time for the diffuser would have been over a year. So I decided against it.
I have an 04 (also impulse blue) that in spite of her “quirks” is my favorite car ever. The note and interior alone are just 😍 Not to mention ignorant people that think you’re rollin in a G6 or something lol
I miss mine. Bought a 2005 when I was 20. Lucky I didn’t kill myself. Owned a couple cars since then and I would buy another GTO in a heartbeat. Standing out in crowds was one of the reasons I loved it. The people who matter knew what it was.
They do make aftermarket body kits for the car. I own an 06 and have seen wide body kits and all. I will admit there are no where near as many as a 350Z (which I also once owned an 06) but they are out there. You just have to look a lil harder. Maybe you could look into the Holden Monaro HSV kits
Yeessss!!! I want to get a hold of a HSV GTS front and rear bumper the side skirts are more spicy too. Seibon makes a few carbon hoods for our GTOs I believe and yeah there are companies out there that make aftermarket parts for our cars just gotta search a little. Yes there aren't as many as you can find for Z or a supra or Silvia but they are definitely out there for sure
I have a 2006 GTO and I love it. Since you don't see them anymore most people don't know what it is and you get some strange looks especially when you pull away from them. Holden was a car company started and owned by General Motors, so the GTO is no different than any of the other GM cars which shared similar platforms.
I'm in the UK, i have a 04 LS1 VXR, while the LS2 6.0 might have 18bhp more than LS1, but LS1 benefits as it is 19kgs lighter, plus the fuel tank on the LS1 is mounted a lot lower than LS2 and so it maintains a larger boot space.
You think people don't know what kind of car it is now? I had a little accident in my 06 and went the Monaro front end swap on the rebuild. Took the GTO badging off and replaced with Monaro badging. I get lots of confused looks!
I bet you do! No one will recognize those badges or bumpers unless they are actually familiar with the Australian brand! Thats awesome. I have thought about converting mine to a Holden but I do like to keep the American part of it.
Interesting video, great watch for perspective. You can't expect too much from the car though, it's already a family sedan road showcar that could work on the track. You can't really expect it to be a drag car also, I do understand how effort put into and love for your car could lead you to those expectations
I love my 2004 GTO. I bought it new, still own it and still love it. I love how a lot of people do not know what it is and those that do or don't know, love it and want one. They are pretty rare and becoming more sought after every year. The major gripe I have on these cars is something you did not mention. That is the paint. The paint is horrible. I have taken super great care of mine and it still is getting clear coat peeling. It is something most of them do unless they are completely garage kept. The paint and clear coat on these IMO is so poor it should be a GM recall issue but we all know that will never happen. lol
You can get the front splitter on ebay i installed it on my 06 GTO. I see what you mean i tried to get a pedal enhancer for it good luck with that. But i tell you what they do make a mean ass twin turbo kit for it i am going that route. Another thing is sunshades for the side windows can't get that so when it rains it comes in the car so if you smoke well i hate using the ash tray. but i love my GTO it's quick it's fun to drive all i can say
Beautiful car man! Love whatcha done to it. I’m not sure how you feel about the autos in these cars but what’s your opinion? I love these cars and want a beginner v8 coupe I can daily. Young buyer and want to know how these hold up.
They make great cars. If you live somewhere with a lot of snow in the winter or if you are worried about gas mileage don't get one but they are powerful and are super comfortable to drive. I love the car and will never get rid of it.
@@ahmadmorrow2749 I need to make a video about the story behind it But I actually bought mine wrecked and rebuilt it. Just gotta search hard enough. If I were you though hold out for a 6 speed one.
Never underestimate what you can do on a drag strip with a 275 tire. There are a whole class of cars that will run a 1/8 mile times in the 4.20s on a 275
You are completely right! Just in my personal opinion if I was to build something to go fast I would more than likely go for a corvette (the obvious LS choice) or my personal favorite a k series swapped MR2. Just something a lot lighter and more nimble. I'm completely cool with my car being the weekend cruiser car. LOVE IT for that!
I'm going to look at a modded holden conversion this weekend. The wheel and tire issue is one thing I'm finding is going to be a problem. I'm trying to find some nice 18 inch wheels that give that stock muscle look like the holden rims do without spending 2000 plus on a set
jayzee Let me know how it goes man! Yeah the biggest I’ve heard of people going is about a 275 unless you do some suspension modifications or if you tub the car. Wheel and tire combos can be expensive but I recommend finding the set you want and saving for it! One and done and you’ll have your dream set!
@@AustinPhilbeck I agree, I bought Forgelines, expensive but my regret is not those, I love em, it is the first set i had that cost less, but was wasted money, except as a lesson learned.
This gto was the first factory backed entry into formula drift. Rhys Mullen Racing, RMR made a complete body kit that he ran in FD. Not sure if they still sell it but it’s on their site. There used to be a lot of aftermarket crap but no one bought it cause it sucked so it’s all discontinued. You can get camber strut tops from PSR in Australia. gforce engineering did a conversion for a foxbody strut so you could have done that as well but again no longer made. Ksport makes a set of coilovers with the adjustable camber too. Lastly, the Australians made all sorts of cool whacky shit for these cars. Go brows Ebay.au and you’ll find some of it. You are just late too to the game. Aka fpfq.
I appreciate the knowledge! I was aware that DAI used to drift a gto and I know they make a few aftermarket parts its just not as relevant or easy to come by. Ive heard of people using the top hat conversion kits and I have considered them. I might hop onto the Australian ebay and see what i can find. Thanks for the input!
Dude there’s not a lot of after market body parts but you make it seem like they don’t sell them. I litterally found parts for my 06 gto just rn 🤦🏻♂️😂
start making your own customs part yourself i have 2004 GTO pulling 600hp at the wheels and 620 torque and if you dont like your car sell it and you complain to much sell the car
If you know anything about this vehicle the fuel tank was manufactured this way to meet your standards in the USA.....The second thing is you can buy different front bar and side etc HSV made them here in Australia.......If you hate it that much sell it....plane and simple.
Honey I know thats why the fuel tank is there. I'm explaining in the video that because of that it causes the trunk to be smaller. No one on this planet likes when they have a small trunk. I also know that the Monaro and Vauxhall facelifts could be applied to the car but technically thats still an OEM option, just an option that wasn't offered in America. The aftermarket for this car is huge considering performance upgrades but the after market community for the physical body of this car is small, Most people in America will go the SAP route or get Mavman stuff but thats about the only options. Thank you for your view.
I've heard there's a fuel tank relocation available, but you have single-side exhaust like the '04, and it's off of the earlier Holden models, so you would have to import it from Australia. Aftermarket support for the body is definitely lacking. Suspension is okay. The engine, though, we all know that's about as supported as an engine can get! Definitely not a car for fans of easy body modifications!
2001 -2004 models in Australia have a full size trunk with side dual exhaust. Tank in normal position... Doing the trunk delete was for the USA market as the car wasn’t considered aggressive enough looking.
I'm aware of the kits that are available I'm just personally not a fan of the way they are designed. Just in my own personal opinion (which is what this entire video is based around) I just don't like the options that are present for GTO's I feel like the Battle Aero kit is the most appealing but I think it is a little too aggressive for my taste.
True story man. You hit all the points . The problem is the gto community itself too you cant do anything everybody hates on everything that comes out on the cars they own themselves lol,thereforenno market
Honestly the cars are suppose to handle incredibly well if the right suspension mods are done. If you're thinking about doing autocross or anything similar they are supposed to be pretty solid chassis for it. Look at Matt Farah's (the smoking tire) review on the gto they talk about it!
Interesting that the GTO fans in the US were not overly happy about calling this a GTO. I loved the fact that Holden revived the Monaro name with this car, but also thought it was a bit tame looking.
5 reasons I hate my gto. 1. Gas 2. Tires. 3. Oil😅😅😅 actually the only issues I’m having w mine is sticky door locks, probably needs linkage lubed. Headliner sag, needs replaced. My driver/passenger seats leather is pretty dried out. Considering its age not really that crazy to have these 3 minor issues.
That's not what I was saying. I was talking about the offset of the wheels. The wheel is is 10 inches wide with an offset of 25. Which is a high offset. They aren't crazy deep dish wheels and they already stick out past the fenders. If I put a proper tire on MY wheel. 275 for example they'd stick out. But even if I had a HIGHER offset wheel with a 275 thats the biggest possible tire you can put on a gto without doing a mini tub.
Considering the video says 5 things *I* hate about *MY* car these are my opinions. Everyone has their own style. If you're looking for sleeper content check out Gingiums channel for his Turbo LS volvo! 🤙🏼 Thanks for the view!
I didn't buy my '05 to race or show but to cruise. That is why my #1 hate is the cruise control. My Pontiac GrandPrix's cruise is easy to set and always on unless I turn it off.. not so with the GTO. Also.. who rides in the back seat? I'm thinking of eliminating the back seat for more cargo room on trips. I LIKE that the goat doesn't stand out like the typical muscle car. That is the tradition of GTO.. an ordinary looking sleeper that you don't notice until it passes you.
Hmm I've never thought of the cruise control thing. It is rather weird that its on the turn signal but I don't mind it. Its never bothered me! But I do enjoy your input! Still love the car of course but there are some weird things about it that could be better.
@@AustinPhilbeck Being on the turn signal is not unusual for GM but having to turn it on every time and having to twist the knob IS. Another hate is the trunk release being in the glove compartment. Otherwise I LOVE my GTO.
285 Michelins, 10.5" wheels, lowered, within the fender, but must have the exact correct offset, rolled fenders. there are some awesome aftermarket items for the GTO: KW coilovers, Baer brakes, DSS carbon fiber driveshaft, and so forth. nonetheless, entertaining video.
@@drm9979 Theres a ton of after makret support for this car and chassis if we are talking about performance mods. But someone like me who enjoys different styles has a hard time with the fact that all these cars look the same. Everyones go to formula is SAP stuff and one of the only aftermarket companies for looks is Mavman, slap some VMR's on it and you're golden pony boy. Thats the majority of GTO's and what the community thinks looks good. I just want to be a little different. I appreciate your view and input!
Do it makes you happy but with this vehicle you don’t need to add body kits or any of that crap it’s perfect the way it is just Modify the engine to the max
I do understand Americans not being happy having a gto badge on a Holden Monaro but I do not understand how you can say that the Australian Monaro / gto is not in the same class as a muscle car and isn't fast in a straight line when it has an LS corvette engine, transmission, and German opal suspension, and it is a fact that a standard Monaro / gto will leave any standard American gto in the dust, it out runs, out handles, out corners and out breaks the classics and leaves them for dead in every way with only half the fuel, no contest, so how can you say they are not a fast car in a straight line nor are they classed as a muscle car, the classic gto's are a nice car I do like them but they cannot keep up with any Monaro / gto, it doesn't make sense. the MonGTO is in fact a world class muscle car. as for no body kits have you seen the HSV GTO, HSV GTS, and the limited edition all wheel drive HSV Monaro, plenty of body kits, side skirts and how wide do wheels have to be. If you don't like your car, why did you buy it, and the reason why the the trunk is so small is because American law demanded that Australia move the tank from under the trunk to behind the seat if they wanted to export to the US the original Monaro had t tank below the trunk with a big trunk capacity but was changed at the request of the American for rear end collisions and fire's and Holden commodore taillights are compatible. and if you don't like the car, simply get rid of it, and if you want wider wheels and a bigger trunk on your car, take it to west coast Customs you've seen the show and the HSV Maloo ute / pickup truck did come out with fender vents and then theirs the HSV Grange with compatible parts. ( food for thought dude )
Can't get aftermarket body kits? Dude it's a two door commodore, you should be able to fit any commodore body kit made in Aus for the VR, VS, VT, VX, VY and VZ series commodores. Especially the VT and VX commies which the car was based on.
I have an 04 GTO that I bought 3 years ago and I hate everything you mentioned. I only paid $4k for it so I can live with it and will run this car to the ground.
it looks like a grand am...my grandfather wud like this car...THEY shud have done the same as camaro's challenger, and mustangs by bringing back a modernized version of the popular 60's cars with a engine that wud equal the power that these cars had back in the day of true muscle cars
I totally agree 100% brother, had Pontiac made the 04-06 GTO a more retro styling of the 66-67 GTOs with some modern performance instead of making it a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia, it would've not only sold well but it would also save Pontiac as well.
Yes I saw that, it's strange that they come out with a body kit for the car about 15 years later. But hey I'm all here for it. I dont think I could brung myself to cut my quarters though. LOL
I am very glad they came out last year making some kits finally for this car but honestly I'm just not a fan of how it looks! But its still cool that 15+ years after the car was released new parts are coming out for it!
They make one widebody kit for this car. Have you ever heard of not liking something? If you like a duckbill wing that doesnt mean you automatically like chassis mount wings as well. It's preference my dude. The point I was trying to convey is this car does not have the aftermarket support that other chassis do.
I have noticed that it does slouch a lot when the AC is on! You got a good point! Love the car but there is definitely parts I don't like just like any car.
I never thought of this car as a muscle car. It would fit right into JDM culture. If you slapped a Toyota or Nissan badge on is, this car would be selling for 4 times that it fetches. Think outside the box.
you don't like it douse bag sell it there is a big market for them I've had a dozen offers for mine i won't sell it i love it and i get a lot of comments a 67 gto was a lemans body
Yeah but at least the 67 GTO was still a real Pontiac with a real Pontiac V8 while the 04-06 GTO is nothing but a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia with a Corvette V8.
You had a couple of valid points. But a GTO is not for everybody. A GTO is for those truly unique individuals that wants to be different and does not want to own the typical Camaro, Mustang or Challenger.
EXACTLY! and that is why I love this car. It was hard for me to come up with things I "hate" they are all just things about the car that make it what it is. Also just a video trend I wanted to do, but in reality I absolutely love my GTO and will never get rid of it.
I've owned my 2006 GTO for about 15 years now; and I still get compliments all the time.
Love my so much
GTO is a beast, love the car. I have an 06 and people come up to me daily wishing they owned one.
Factz bro people at my work be like "are you the guy that drives the gto?"😂
Same love it more every day I hop in 💯
I always get looks
How come everyone hates on the 5.7? I want a 6.0 but they're more expensive
@@AndrewPruteanu and heavier with worse mpg
I definitely feel you on these points man! The whole tire issue has been a big thing for me on questioning whether or not I want to keep mine! Beautiful looking car though!!
I've owned my 2006 GTO for about 15 years now; and I still get compliments all the time.
You bring up some great points! But one of my biggest pet peeves is how literally everything in the car is electric. The seats, and gas cap cover are the ones that bother me the most. I absolutely love the car though, I have to really try to find things I don't like about it.
I do too! Absolutely love the car, just trying to do a video trend. I also love your point of the small electric things such as the gas cap cover!
the reason it doesnt fit in anywhere is the reason i want one, cause neither do i
I somewhat agree with some of this, but I have an 06 and absolutely love it. I daily drove it for a few years and now don't have to, but I love it every time I get into it. The gas tank was originally under the car and made the trunk a lot bigger but US standards forced it to it's current location, so blame government oversight on that one. The biggest issue with mine is the cooling system--I've had to replace the radiator, water pump, thermostat, basically the whole system at one point or another. But when you get in there and replace most of the stock rubber bushings with poly it makes a huge difference and feels a lot better.
I also found it interesting that you said there's no aftermarket support and then only mentioned some appearance stuff. I have a full exhaust including stainless long tube headers, a short-throw shifter, a performance intake manifold, a one-piece driveshaft, all the poly bushings I mentioned before, and yes some appearance stuff like the SAP front grilles made by GTOG8TA who makes a lot of repro SAP stuff for example.
Yes completely agree with you! I've had the car for about 8 years and daily drove it for 5 years. The car has always been amazing to me and absolutely love it. When making this video I was being VERY nit picky. My main gripe about the aftermarket support is for appearance modifications. There are just so few options when it comes to making the car look any different with just a few small companies such as GTOG8TA and MAVMAN who makes incredible products but can't keep up with orders. I think theres a big market for people in this community wanting to modify theirs to look differently from the next guys; maybe getting a new carbon hood or different style wing. Theres just few options comparatively to other platforms/chassis.
I agree on many of the issues... I own a 04 GTO in Finland in Europe, where they were never sold as new, and the only ones are private imports from the USA. I got mine because I’m a fan of Australian cars, have owned the car since 2008 already. But even the car is super rare in the whole continent, it really doesn’t fit into any category or car event here. The traditional muscle car guys don’t care about the car as it doesn’t look like a muscle car and is too new for them, the modern muscle car guys (Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, Charger etc) don’t care about the car as it doesn’t look like an American muscle car or have any retro look, the Japanese and European car guys don’t care for the car as it’s not Japanese or European... the sports car and grand touring car guys don’t even allow the car to enter their events as they claim that is just a muscle car and not a grand touring car... so everybody keeps telling that ”go to events for your car” and there are so few of these cars that of course there aren’t any events for just these cars... it would kind of fit to any of those events and cars, but nobody basically welcomes the 04-06 GTO to any event here. It’s too Australian or European style to the American car guys, too American for the European and Japanese car guys, too muscle car to the sports and grand touring car guys etc... I’ve been trying to defend the car for over 12 years but with no luck in many cases... and these are so unique cars! (And talk about finding parts for these here in North-Eastern corner of Europe, where they were never even sold as new and where General Motors has pulled away officially... I have to order even basic parts from the USA or Australia...) Still love the car for it’s uniqueness, looks and performance. Most people just seem to want to have and see the same car than everybody else (be it a Mustang, M3 or a Nissan...). Of course there are SOME people who get it.
Great post. I live in Sweden but also like the Australian cars and utes. I wondered what it would be like here and i guess you summed it up pretty well.
As a guy who is within a month or two of pulling the trigger on one of these cars, I can understand your complaints but I see all of these issues as being a result of the GTO being a somewhat rare collectible. The way I see it, you’re driving a car that wasn’t produced in huge numbers to begin with. As of today, they’ve been out of production for sixteen years. Having only been sold for three years, and being out of production for that long, these issues can be expected.
I see them as a perfect car for a muscle car guy who wants to be a little different, and not follow the crowd. They’re more refined than something like a Mustang in terms of interior comfort. They’re more practical than a Corvette. Yet, even after all these years they will hang with those cars all day long.
I’m currently a Mustang guy, and have been for a lot of years. My next purchase is likely to be my last car due to health reasons. For as much as I’d like to buy a new Coyote powered Mustang GT, I feel that a like new GTO will be more comfortable, looks more appropriate for a family man, yet has the power to remain competitive with the Ford 5.0, and does it for less money.
Besides... even though people argue that these cars aren’t “real” GTO’s, I would beg to differ. General Motors calls them GTO, their registration paperwork says GTO, and they certainly have the muscle car recipe down pat. Sweet cars for sure.
Get one now if you can... i paid 16K for my used brazen orange 06, owned it for four years and now its worth 22K. These will only go up in value as the years pass.
right on.
It's actually a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia mate
sweet gto i have a 06 6 speed and my dad has a 05 6 speed we love them pontiac lovers all the way
Thats awesome! Love that you and your pops get to go cruise around together in the goats!
You mean Holden lovers right?
How did you install the race seats without triggering the airbag fault light
Could you give me the full size of your wheels and tires please? Also, do you think I can put same sizes you have on a stock suspension?
Haaaave you looked into getting a holden monaro body kit? Plus it gets rid of grand prix grill
I have considered it! Honestly I like the Pontiac look. Does look just like any other g6 or grand prix but the car is a GTO so I'm okay with representing the Pontiac name. I just wish there were some lip kits and small mods I could do to make the car look different from stock.
What's your rim and tire set up? DoD you have to do any trimming or fender roll??
I highly recommend Mav Man product. He is the pioneer of aftermarket CF for the GTO and a standup guy. I was in the GTO scene from 2009-2016 and my 06 was the best car I have ever owned to this day. I hope to own another soon!
Love his products! I was going to order a carbon diffuser from him but I was quoted that the wait time for the diffuser would have been over a year. So I decided against it.
Dope brother!!!
I have an 04 (also impulse blue) that in spite of her “quirks” is my favorite car ever. The note and interior alone are just 😍 Not to mention ignorant people that think you’re rollin in a G6 or something lol
YES! I got that the other day! I was getting gas and this guy comes up and is like, "wow you've got this G6 lookin and sounding good don't ya?" LOL
Can someone tell me which chassis is installed?
I miss mine. Bought a 2005 when I was 20. Lucky I didn’t kill myself. Owned a couple cars since then and I would buy another GTO in a heartbeat. Standing out in crowds was one of the reasons I loved it. The people who matter knew what it was.
Your interior set up is nice 🔥🔥
Thank you! Interior is my favorite part.
There is bodykits, have you not seen the widebody kits and the spoilers and hoods? The motors have great aftermarket support too
They do make aftermarket body kits for the car. I own an 06 and have seen wide body kits and all. I will admit there are no where near as many as a 350Z (which I also once owned an 06) but they are out there. You just have to look a lil harder. Maybe you could look into the Holden Monaro HSV kits
Yeessss!!! I want to get a hold of a HSV GTS front and rear bumper the side skirts are more spicy too. Seibon makes a few carbon hoods for our GTOs I believe and yeah there are companies out there that make aftermarket parts for our cars just gotta search a little. Yes there aren't as many as you can find for Z or a supra or Silvia but they are definitely out there for sure
I have a 2006 GTO and I love it. Since you don't see them anymore most people don't know what it is and you get some strange looks especially when you pull away from them. Holden was a car company started and owned by General Motors, so the GTO is no different than any of the other GM cars which shared similar platforms.
I'm in the UK, i have a 04 LS1 VXR, while the LS2 6.0 might have 18bhp more than LS1, but LS1 benefits as it is 19kgs lighter, plus the fuel tank on the LS1 is mounted a lot lower than LS2 and so it maintains a larger boot space.
Can you put the back seats down to make more room in the trunk or is the gas tank in the way?
The fuel tank is in between the trunk and the backseat. The trunk is rather small but the backseat is MASSIVE especially for a coupe.
Where did you get the steering wheel and quick release parts? I Have a 06 6 speed
you can get the hub and quick release off of NRG. the steering wheel is a vertex.
Very clean car. That is a sweet set of wheels! I got Rota P45R, love seeing something other than VMR Wheels. Lol
YES! Thank you! Thats one of the things I was aiming for was to build something a little different with not the typical VMR's LOL!
You think people don't know what kind of car it is now? I had a little accident in my 06 and went the Monaro front end swap on the rebuild. Took the GTO badging off and replaced with Monaro badging. I get lots of confused looks!
I bet you do! No one will recognize those badges or bumpers unless they are actually familiar with the Australian brand! Thats awesome. I have thought about converting mine to a Holden but I do like to keep the American part of it.
Nice 👍🏻
Interesting video, great watch for perspective. You can't expect too much from the car though, it's already a family sedan road showcar that could work on the track. You can't really expect it to be a drag car also, I do understand how effort put into and love for your car could lead you to those expectations
I love my 2004 GTO. I bought it new, still own it and still love it.
I love how a lot of people do not know what it is and those that do or don't know, love it and want one. They are pretty rare and becoming more sought after every year.
The major gripe I have on these cars is something you did not mention. That is the paint. The paint is horrible.
I have taken super great care of mine and it still is getting clear coat peeling. It is something most of them do unless they are completely garage kept.
The paint and clear coat on these IMO is so poor it should be a GM recall issue but we all know that will never happen. lol
You can go bigger tire then 275.. Gforce coilovers and some shaving will do it
I recently did find their coilover kit! It's a cool product
What's the width of your front wheels??
You can get the front splitter on ebay i installed it on my 06 GTO. I see what you mean i tried to get a pedal enhancer for it good luck with that. But i tell you what they do make a mean ass twin turbo kit for it i am going that route. Another thing is sunshades for the side windows can't get that so when it rains it comes in the car so if you smoke well i hate using the ash tray. but i love my GTO it's quick it's fun to drive all i can say
Beautiful car man! Love whatcha done to it. I’m not sure how you feel about the autos in these cars but what’s your opinion? I love these cars and want a beginner v8 coupe I can daily. Young buyer and want to know how these hold up.
They make great cars. If you live somewhere with a lot of snow in the winter or if you are worried about gas mileage don't get one but they are powerful and are super comfortable to drive. I love the car and will never get rid of it.
Austin Philbeck The problem now is finding a decent one😅
@@ahmadmorrow2749 I need to make a video about the story behind it But I actually bought mine wrecked and rebuilt it. Just gotta search hard enough. If I were you though hold out for a 6 speed one.
Austin Philbeck For me it’s a gto, a g8 gt or a Genesis
I know it's an older video but damn that's such a beautiful car! Since I was 16 decades ago it was my favorite car lol. That color tooooo, love it!
Thank you! I really appreciate it! I have some other videos on the car you might enjoy as well!
Never underestimate what you can do on a drag strip with a 275 tire. There are a whole class of cars that will run a 1/8 mile times in the 4.20s on a 275
You are completely right! Just in my personal opinion if I was to build something to go fast I would more than likely go for a corvette (the obvious LS choice) or my personal favorite a k series swapped MR2. Just something a lot lighter and more nimble. I'm completely cool with my car being the weekend cruiser car. LOVE IT for that!
1.51 60' on an 11:23 1/4 run on my NA stock bottom end ls2 1100 feet above sea level Using 275 Nitto DRs
I'm going to look at a modded holden conversion this weekend. The wheel and tire issue is one thing I'm finding is going to be a problem. I'm trying to find some nice 18 inch wheels that give that stock muscle look like the holden rims do without spending 2000 plus on a set
jayzee Let me know how it goes man! Yeah the biggest I’ve heard of people going is about a 275 unless you do some suspension modifications or if you tub the car. Wheel and tire combos can be expensive but I recommend finding the set you want and saving for it! One and done and you’ll have your dream set!
@@AustinPhilbeck I agree, I bought Forgelines, expensive but my regret is not those, I love em, it is the first set i had that cost less, but was wasted money, except as a lesson learned.
Can put bigger than 275s on wirh rolled guards, depends on the offset.
Nice😂🔥
This gto was the first factory backed entry into formula drift. Rhys Mullen Racing, RMR made a complete body kit that he ran in FD. Not sure if they still sell it but it’s on their site. There used to be a lot of aftermarket crap but no one bought it cause it sucked so it’s all discontinued.
You can get camber strut tops from PSR in Australia. gforce engineering did a conversion for a foxbody strut so you could have done that as well but again no longer made. Ksport makes a set of coilovers with the adjustable camber too.
Lastly, the Australians made all sorts of cool whacky shit for these cars. Go brows Ebay.au and you’ll find some of it.
You are just late too to the game. Aka fpfq.
I appreciate the knowledge! I was aware that DAI used to drift a gto and I know they make a few aftermarket parts its just not as relevant or easy to come by. Ive heard of people using the top hat conversion kits and I have considered them. I might hop onto the Australian ebay and see what i can find. Thanks for the input!
I have 19x12 335/30r19 you can tub these cars and put a bigger tire than a 275
I'm not familiar with tubbing? How do you do that?
Dude there’s not a lot of after market body parts but you make it seem like they don’t sell them. I litterally found parts for my 06 gto just rn 🤦🏻♂️😂
They make parts just not a lot of options.
start making your own customs part yourself i have 2004 GTO pulling 600hp at the wheels and 620 torque and if you dont like your car sell it and you complain to much sell the car
love my car, it's just a video trend bud.
If you know anything about this vehicle the fuel tank was manufactured this way to meet your standards in the USA.....The second thing is you can buy different front bar and side etc HSV made them here in Australia.......If you hate it that much sell it....plane and simple.
Honey I know thats why the fuel tank is there. I'm explaining in the video that because of that it causes the trunk to be smaller. No one on this planet likes when they have a small trunk. I also know that the Monaro and Vauxhall facelifts could be applied to the car but technically thats still an OEM option, just an option that wasn't offered in America. The aftermarket for this car is huge considering performance upgrades but the after market community for the physical body of this car is small, Most people in America will go the SAP route or get Mavman stuff but thats about the only options. Thank you for your view.
That intro was perfection
when did william osman get a pontiac?
I've heard there's a fuel tank relocation available, but you have single-side exhaust like the '04, and it's off of the earlier Holden models, so you would have to import it from Australia.
Aftermarket support for the body is definitely lacking. Suspension is okay. The engine, though, we all know that's about as supported as an engine can get! Definitely not a car for fans of easy body modifications!
I have not heard of that! I'm sure it could be done but I don't know if Id want to go through the trouble of importing that from across the world. LOL
2001 -2004 models in Australia have a full size trunk with side dual exhaust. Tank in normal position...
Doing the trunk delete was for the USA market as the car wasn’t considered aggressive enough looking.
1 thing I hate about your gto is it dont look like a gto lol.. just playing, it's still a nice ride, love that color
Woodys customs make nice a nice zr1 hood, and battle aero makes widebody a for the gto now💪🏾
Look at that steering wheel💕
Real shame you just got the basic Monaro in the US. The HSV version that we got in the UK looks much more aggressive.
It really does! America got the short end of the stick with a LOT of imported cars. I hate it LOL
RK Sport And Rhys millen for body bits? wide body by battle aero as well.... Trunk is too small!! arg
I'm aware of the kits that are available I'm just personally not a fan of the way they are designed. Just in my own personal opinion (which is what this entire video is based around) I just don't like the options that are present for GTO's I feel like the Battle Aero kit is the most appealing but I think it is a little too aggressive for my taste.
True story man. You hit all the points . The problem is the gto community itself too you cant do anything everybody hates on everything that comes out on the cars they own themselves lol,thereforenno market
Yep exactly. I have received quite a lot of hate on the forums and facebook groups. LOL
Anybody knows how this car corners ?
Honestly the cars are suppose to handle incredibly well if the right suspension mods are done. If you're thinking about doing autocross or anything similar they are supposed to be pretty solid chassis for it. Look at Matt Farah's (the smoking tire) review on the gto they talk about it!
Interesting that the GTO fans in the US were not overly happy about calling this a GTO. I loved the fact that Holden revived the Monaro name with this car, but also thought it was a bit tame looking.
Will the 2004-2006 GTO become a classic?
I'd like to think it will be one day but I don't know how sought after it will become.
5 reasons I hate my gto. 1. Gas 2. Tires. 3. Oil😅😅😅 actually the only issues I’m having w mine is sticky door locks, probably needs linkage lubed. Headliner sag, needs replaced. My driver/passenger seats leather is pretty dried out. Considering its age not really that crazy to have these 3 minor issues.
I have 275's on my 05 GTO and they don't stick out at all.
That's not what I was saying. I was talking about the offset of the wheels. The wheel is is 10 inches wide with an offset of 25. Which is a high offset. They aren't crazy deep dish wheels and they already stick out past the fenders. If I put a proper tire on MY wheel. 275 for example they'd stick out. But even if I had a HIGHER offset wheel with a 275 thats the biggest possible tire you can put on a gto without doing a mini tub.
Yo dude ur picture is dope af
His wheel offset must be wrong
here to look at badass sleeper car. Got complaints for no air ride capability. LoL
Considering the video says 5 things *I* hate about *MY* car these are my opinions. Everyone has their own style. If you're looking for sleeper content check out Gingiums channel for his Turbo LS volvo! 🤙🏼 Thanks for the view!
Howd u forget the sloppy shifting the manual is.
Whaaat I can bang my gears like no other
I turn my GTO 2006 into a street car.. And I’m running 295s on the back wheels and it’s not rubbing..
Your car is dope dude...
Thanks man! I really appreciate it!
I didn't buy my '05 to race or show but to cruise. That is why my #1 hate is the cruise control. My Pontiac GrandPrix's cruise is easy to set and always on unless I turn it off.. not so with the GTO. Also.. who rides in the back seat? I'm thinking of eliminating the back seat for more cargo room on trips. I LIKE that the goat doesn't stand out like the typical muscle car. That is the tradition of GTO.. an ordinary looking sleeper that you don't notice until it passes you.
Hmm I've never thought of the cruise control thing. It is rather weird that its on the turn signal but I don't mind it. Its never bothered me! But I do enjoy your input! Still love the car of course but there are some weird things about it that could be better.
@@AustinPhilbeck Being on the turn signal is not unusual for GM but having to turn it on every time and having to twist the knob IS. Another hate is the trunk release being in the glove compartment. Otherwise I LOVE my GTO.
215 on a 10 inch wheel is asking for trouble 😂
285 Michelins, 10.5" wheels, lowered, within the fender, but must have the exact correct offset, rolled fenders. there are some awesome aftermarket items for the GTO: KW coilovers, Baer brakes, DSS carbon fiber driveshaft, and so forth. nonetheless, entertaining video.
but true that aftermarket body kits are rare and limited. but generally not a fan of body kits anyway.
@@drm9979 Theres a ton of after makret support for this car and chassis if we are talking about performance mods. But someone like me who enjoys different styles has a hard time with the fact that all these cars look the same. Everyones go to formula is SAP stuff and one of the only aftermarket companies for looks is Mavman, slap some VMR's on it and you're golden pony boy. Thats the majority of GTO's and what the community thinks looks good. I just want to be a little different. I appreciate your view and input!
Battle armor has 2 different "widebody" kits available. They don't look half bad.
I’m just glad to own the one I wanted
Do it makes you happy but with this vehicle you don’t need to add body kits or any of that crap it’s perfect the way it is just Modify the engine to the max
Currently lookin at a s.a.p 06 6 speed
It is very fast in a straight line for it’s time
I do understand Americans not being happy having a gto badge on a Holden Monaro but I do not understand how you can say that the Australian Monaro / gto is not in the same class as a muscle car and isn't fast in a straight line when it has an LS corvette engine, transmission, and German opal suspension, and it is a fact that a standard Monaro / gto will leave any standard American gto in the dust, it out runs, out handles, out corners and out breaks the classics and leaves them for dead in every way with only half the fuel, no contest, so how can you say they are not a fast car in a straight line nor are they classed as a muscle car, the classic gto's are a nice car I do like them but they cannot keep up with any Monaro / gto, it doesn't make sense. the MonGTO is in fact a world class muscle car. as for no body kits have you seen the HSV GTO, HSV GTS, and the limited edition all wheel drive HSV Monaro, plenty of body kits, side skirts and how wide do wheels have to be. If you don't like your car, why did you buy it, and the reason why the the trunk is so small is because American law demanded that Australia move the tank from under the trunk to behind the seat if they wanted to export to the US the original Monaro had t tank below the trunk with a big trunk capacity but was changed at the request of the American for rear end collisions and fire's and Holden commodore taillights are compatible. and if you don't like the car, simply get rid of it, and if you want wider wheels and a bigger trunk on your car, take it to west coast Customs you've seen the show and the HSV Maloo ute / pickup truck did come out with fender vents and then theirs the HSV Grange with compatible parts. ( food for thought dude )
Wow wow wow all wheel drive limited edition? Wow where did you hear that at??????????🤔🤔🤔🤔😳😳😳😳
try looking in Australia for aftermarket parts
bourbonslurpee Not a bad idea! I like the idea of keeping it a GTO instead of a Monaro but I’ll still look around for some small stuff!
Can't get aftermarket body kits? Dude it's a two door commodore, you should be able to fit any commodore body kit made in Aus for the VR, VS, VT, VX, VY and VZ series commodores. Especially the VT and VX commies which the car was based on.
I have an 04 GTO that I bought 3 years ago and I hate everything you mentioned. I only paid $4k for it so I can live with it and will run this car to the ground.
Completely agree, absolutely love the car and I will drive it until it rots!
A lot of these are just personal opinion because literally none of ur issues with it bother me at all but maybe the tire size
The title is things that I personally hate about the car. Not flaws everyone experiences or has problems with. It is suppose to be my opinion...
If you hate it so much and prefer so much the 350z or miata why dont you just buy one insted of companing.
It's a video, bunch of people make the video with this title. I love the car I was just pointing out the flaws that are most relevant in my eyes.
@@AustinPhilbeck o sorry for the mean ish comment, I just felt bad. Thanks for the clarification
@@julienpare7467 You're good homie! Hope you like the videos!
I hope the wheels are one of the reasons
it looks like a grand am...my grandfather wud like this car...THEY shud have done the same as camaro's challenger, and mustangs by bringing back a modernized version of the popular 60's cars with a engine that wud equal the power that these cars had back in the day of true muscle cars
I totally agree 100% brother, had Pontiac made the 04-06 GTO a more retro styling of the 66-67 GTOs with some modern performance instead of making it a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia, it would've not only sold well but it would also save Pontiac as well.
I love my 04 a4. I’m glad I don’t ever see them that’s why I picked it.
love that its not a common car!
@@AustinPhilbeck I hate the a4…… and have everything except the magnum for an m6 swap. Been a busy first tour of ownership, and am ready for year 2.
I'm part of a Tn GTO group chat, if you ever want to be added let me know.
Battle aero makes a wide body
Yes I saw that, it's strange that they come out with a body kit for the car about 15 years later. But hey I'm all here for it. I dont think I could brung myself to cut my quarters though. LOL
Battle Aero widebody kit for GTO
I am very glad they came out last year making some kits finally for this car but honestly I'm just not a fan of how it looks! But its still cool that 15+ years after the car was released new parts are coming out for it!
They make wide body kits your crazy dude
They make one widebody kit for this car. Have you ever heard of not liking something? If you like a duckbill wing that doesnt mean you automatically like chassis mount wings as well. It's preference my dude. The point I was trying to convey is this car does not have the aftermarket support that other chassis do.
I have a 285 on mines
You can get a widebody kit now
I'll have to look into it! I Don't think I've seen that kit yet.
Why you whispering Bruh? Is that a library??!!!
LOL! I'll speak up next time!
Uuuhh you ever heard of a mini tub?? You can literally slap a 305 on this easily
One thing I hate about your car is your wheel camber.
It's not everyones taste!
Sounds like a personal problem to me
That is exactly what it is.
You should have bought a Holden Monaro..
I hate this car because of how much power it loses from turning the ac on. I want to get rid of it for this reason alone
I have noticed that it does slouch a lot when the AC is on! You got a good point! Love the car but there is definitely parts I don't like just like any car.
Still a muscle car!
110% a muscle car that was designed to be a Grand Tourer.
Yes an Australian Muscle Car that is mate.
I never thought of this car as a muscle car. It would fit right into JDM culture. If you slapped a Toyota or Nissan badge on is, this car would be selling for 4 times that it fetches. Think outside the box.
Look at the Vauxhall monaro VXR
It’s the same car but looks better
Junk it they r not worth the gm name... its a damn grand prix anyways
With a Ls2 lol not junk, actually rare cars on the road
Order stuff from Australia
Let's race..801 Utah
Wheel and tire set up is notttt good at all
I dont think you know what flush means.
you don't like it douse bag sell it there is a big market for them I've had a dozen offers for mine i won't sell it i love it and i get a lot of comments a 67 gto was a lemans body
I love the car. It's just a video trend to get views and reactions. I'll never sell my GTO. Thanks for the view.
Yeah but at least the 67 GTO was still a real Pontiac with a real Pontiac V8 while the 04-06 GTO is nothing but a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia with a Corvette V8.