Why Trump Supporters ACTUALLY Support Trump | Trump and Us by Roderick P. Hart

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  • @ThatTallBrendan
    @ThatTallBrendan หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Well, here's the thing- _Normalizing rascism,_ by courting racists, *is* racism. So, while I could understand putting forward the idea that '[He's] not racist _in the traditional sense'-_ The sentiment that, 'Trump, himself, is not a racist', is way off the mark.
    I mean, if you're using that particular phrasing _specifically_ in an effort to avoid alienating conservatives, then.. _I guess_ I could see it..? But even then, that's softballing, and I would never encourage you to do anything less than tell it how it is-
    Even _if_ it ends up implicating the people who support him- because at the end of the day, whether ignorant, apathetic, or acting purely out of self interest- they _are_ implicated.

    • @KevsBookRant
      @KevsBookRant  หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Trump might be a racist-I don’t know. Honestly, he’s just a terrible person in general, so… racist or not, it’s kind of a secondary point when it comes to my argument.
      The question I ask myself is this: if you choose to vote for Trump or if you’re a Trump supporter, does that automatically make you a racist or a terrible person? I don’t think it does.

    • @darkhour616
      @darkhour616 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@KevsBookRant I beg to differ...😐

    • @ThatTallBrendan
      @ThatTallBrendan หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@KevsBookRant Well sure- And at the end of your video you do thank the hypothetical Trump supporter for sticking around, so it's clear this was written with them in mind- However those little semantic variations can make a big difference.
      'Trump is not racist', and 'It doesn't matter whether or not he _is_ racist [because of policy, etc.]'
      Is different from:
      'Whether or not _he realizes_ it, courting hate groups, and _normalizing their presence in society,_ *is* _an act_ of racism and hate, _regardless_ of whether it's done for purely personal, _or_ ideological reasons.
      _However,_ *wholly irrespective* of this fact, many of his policies have potential to affect _all_ Americans, in a negative way, and it's _this_ that I'd like to touch on now. [cont. as normal]'
      'Many', not 'all' policies. 'Potential' to effect, not a guarantee. 'Negative way', not negative-ly-
      All these subtle variations allow you to offer a more nuanced explanation, while _not only_ making it more palatable to the skeptic conservative, but fully, _and accurately_ representing the facts as well.
      But I understand your sentiment-! I understand your angle, and can appreciate that you would attempt to cross the aisle in an effort to refocus the conversation on understanding.
      It's just important that.. in the process, you don't end up _accidentally minimizing_ the problem (or, more earnestly, 'the threat'- but remember~ gentle language~) that such normalization causes on a national level.
      Because, as a final aside- _you do mention_ that his policies spark division..
      But what divisions? Which divides-?
      I think you and I _both know_ it goes without saying - but it can go without saying *with them,* too. You don't have to outright.
      That's because, at the end of the day, we don't win in the realm of _declaration-_ It's not where we change minds. We win, on the grounds of _implication._
      Imply what _is,_ in a way that they will consider, and naturally, you might find they come around.
      All that said? I really appreciate your reply man. It really is great that you've put your voice out there, and while I'm very active in comments, I've yet to take the leap myself.
      Thank you sincerely for your time, your work, and your thoughts- and hopefully you'll feel me on this too ✌️⁽ᴬⁿᵈ ᵗʰᵃᵗ'ˢ ᵃ 'ᵛᶦᶜᵗᵒʳʸ' ᵛ⁾

    • @hrodebertcoad9848
      @hrodebertcoad9848 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I've always thought of Trump as a racist until I watched the most recent Some More News video.
      He's even more racist than I thought he was. Some stuff I had just forgotten about, but some stuff I had personally not even heard about.

    • @millenniumvintage9726
      @millenniumvintage9726 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KevsBookRantTrump is definitely racist dawg. Anybody paying attention the last 9 years knows this

  • @jonathonriddle9922
    @jonathonriddle9922 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Growing up with liberal ideals in an America where Rush Limbaugh made "liberal" a dirty word, I feel seen by candidates like Bernie Sanders, AOC, and Kamala Harris.

    • @Sane1015
      @Sane1015 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My dad listened to rush all the time when I was growing up. I'm super lucky my cousin had the patience with me to pull me out of that shit.

  • @crplcreekboy
    @crplcreekboy หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Jaw hit the floor when I saw the view/sub count. Incredible production, man. Well researched, well said, and well done. I wish we had more folks like yourself in public office.

    • @KevsBookRant
      @KevsBookRant  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks man I really appreciate it!

    • @mbanks6697
      @mbanks6697 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I must agree

  • @DanielCoronado-x5q
    @DanielCoronado-x5q หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    It’s beyond me how anyone can vote for him 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @koushikdas1770
      @koushikdas1770 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It always comes down to fear. Its a hell of a drug and its hard for people to break away from that rhetoric cause trump supporters want to believe him. I can almost pity them how they are brainwashed to believing him when we know he is bullshiting and doesn’t give a crap about them. He is only for himself. But his messaging have worked and its stuck with his supporters and the GOP as a whole in America. Honestly, I am ready for this election to be over. Americans deserves better. Praying for yall!

  • @T.Denise
    @T.Denise หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    To me trump brings out the worst in people

    • @Horus070
      @Horus070 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I agree

    • @KevsBookRant
      @KevsBookRant  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Absolutely!

  • @neosapienz7885
    @neosapienz7885 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I appreciate what you’re doing here. I will say I don’t write his supporters off as crazy, and I don’t hate them. They are not seeing him for who and what he is, no matter what he says or does, so they don’t see how dangerous he is. They don’t pay attention to patterns-the people he surrounds himself with. That makes them stubborn at best, or stupid at worst. It is what it is. Anyone voting for him is voting for a traitor. Does that make them traitors? With everything they know, I hate to say, yeah. This veteran who grew up on a farm and has a lot of friends and family who did or will vote for him is doing a lot of soul searching right now. I think I may have to recognize, we may share blood and history, but we no longer share values, and I just don’t see staying connected. That’s regardless of who wins the election.

    • @RadiantSkin
      @RadiantSkin หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dietrich Bonhoeffer defined stupidity not as a failure of intelligence, but of morality. In that case they still remain stupid.

    • @LeNZian
      @LeNZian 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      My two cents is one shouldn't resort to thinking of a victim of an abusive relationship as stubborn or stupid, no matter how bad their partner is. I think there's very similar psychology at play with Trump supporters. We can't give up to despair and abandon them

    • @neosapienz7885
      @neosapienz7885 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ I agree in principle. In practical terms, though, I don’t see how they will ever change. It’s more like an addict than an abuse victim. For your own good, sometimes you have to walk away. I am walking away from half of my siblings. We have some family business to attend to after the death of our father, but I’m working quickly to resolve that. I’m not announcing it, not being mean, just not engaging anymore.

    • @RadiantSkin
      @RadiantSkin 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LeNZian That may apply to some Trump supporters, but unfortunately a lot are people like him but have not had the nerve to be as bold about it as he is. Trump has validated being an a-hole. Like Marjorie Taylor Greene and the people who gleefully vote her in. Ignorance can't be the excuse. Apparently many Trump supporters who saw "The Apprentice" movie liked what it said about him.
      A lot like his anarchic nature. They like the idea of him burning the government to the ground. A lot find him more entertaining than the usual kind of presidential candidate and that matters to them. They answer the question: Who would you rather have a beer with? As if that is a presidential quality.
      Many have no interest in politics and never listen to any news about that. Many follow the crowd. Many vote for Republicans out of tradition and team spirit not noticing the Republicans of their parents are not the same today.
      So to say that they are victims of abuse is a bit off the mark. If they are really good, wise people at heart than they are not paying attention somewhere. But I agree they will not be convinced to vote him out if their concerns are not taken seriously.

  • @MChantal76
    @MChantal76 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If you want the answer to whether Trump is a racist, follow his niece Mary Trump and listen to her interviews and her podcast channel. She has said that he's extremely racist and has used racial slurs constantly. Also, Trump's supporters may not think of themselves as racist, but obviously, racism isn't a deal breaker for them and in a lot of ways, that's even worse.

    • @KevsBookRant
      @KevsBookRant  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ve actually got her book on my reading list.

  • @JasmineWilliams-tj6or
    @JasmineWilliams-tj6or หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    You are right about him having a lot of different supporters. I was watching another podcast on a black person who is voting for Trump and it seems like a lot of people are voting for the Republican party not necessarily Trump. I honestly think Trump has said and done too many shady things for me to trust him (not the Republican party) with our country.

    • @crplcreekboy
      @crplcreekboy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As far as I have gathered, this is an emerging trend. The democrats have promised progress for minorities for decades and for many Americans, that promise rings empty. Or at the very least it feels like it rings empty. The circumstances and context that inform the way that people vote are far more complex than many of us have been led to believe.

    • @RadiantSkin
      @RadiantSkin หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The ones that get me are the ones who know exactly what his character and personality are, who hate his language, but the economy was better under him, so they will vote for him. A universal embarrassment of a president, a dangerous psychopath, but if their paycheck will benefit that's okay with them.

    • @TheSerenityV
      @TheSerenityV หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Republican Party has a portion of it that are extremest and they are in power within the party. The normal conservatives have been purged out.

    • @crplcreekboy
      @crplcreekboy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RadiantSkin yup. Spent the better part of the past few years trying to understand why my neighbors, my friends, and my family could vote for this man -and THIS^, has been the stated reason 9/10 times.
      Not to mention that there is nothing definitive about his impacts on the health of the economy -economics are more complicated than folks care to admit.

  • @BePatient888
    @BePatient888 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Not all Trump voters are ultra nationalists, or White Supremacists, or homophobic or racists. However, if you're an ultra nationalist, or White Supremacist, or homophobic or racist, Trump created a political home for you. I think the video's point is cogent, that Trump tapped into the fear of a changing demographics, and the fear that a diverse America is a weak America.

  • @digiscott2181
    @digiscott2181 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's NOT a rant - that was a balanced and reasoned perspective offering a way to progress Together ☯🎯

  • @lacc5967
    @lacc5967 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I like the video and i concur with a lot of what is being said, but i don't agree with most of what is being stated about him not being racist.

    • @KevsBookRant
      @KevsBookRant  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea I think a lot of people agree with you.
      He may or may both be a racist. But if somebody supports him, does that automatically make them a racist?

    • @lacc5967
      @lacc5967 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@KevsBookRant it's no different than the Right... If someone supports Kamala then they must be a pedophile... The biggest problem I have right now with the Republicans is the fact that they get so angry about the exact same shit that they are doing... They want to be the only side doing it.

  • @kairi4640
    @kairi4640 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wish this had more views. It's the exact reason why people I know voted for him, too. I just hope for the sake of this country, things get normalized after the election. But I don't think things will be normal for a long time. And I worry we'll have a civil war next year...

  • @AIDAHAR210
    @AIDAHAR210 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Trumps brings a comedian in who thinks my kids are half "garbage", never will vote for anyone who thinks like that about my family

  • @hitthecasino
    @hitthecasino หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I enjoyed this and it is well thought out, but I think you're too nice and generous toward the dictator and his cult. No, he may not be severely racist or even conservative, but he's willing to embrace both in order to attract his base.

  • @digitalparty9891
    @digitalparty9891 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Everything you said was informative and humanized them, but what I don't understand is how they can continue to support him when the allegations keep piling up, when his empathy seems to only apply to white people, when the lies keep getting more elaborate. It's too much. This shouldn't be a debate of policy and should be a debate of morals and character, both of which Donald Trump has none.

  • @brownboicarti
    @brownboicarti หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey man I saw this video on my feed. The production value and your insights are truly incredible! Def earned a sub.

    • @KevsBookRant
      @KevsBookRant  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome, thank you! 🙏🏾

  • @russellharrell2747
    @russellharrell2747 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Understanding the minds of folks who think differently and hold different beliefs than you is always a good thing. And I think this video goes a long way to understand why Trump’s supporters vote for him.
    And if I say any more than that, I’ll be writing my own essay, so I’ll leave that that.

    • @crplcreekboy
      @crplcreekboy หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well said. I’ve spent months trying to better understand each side of the presidential race in the US and this feels like the missing piece of the puzzle. It takes an understanding of more than just policy to make sense of Donald Trump’s appeal as a politician.

    • @KevsBookRant
      @KevsBookRant  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yea, I just figure everyone’s got their reasons for believing what they believe-especially when they don’t see things the way I do. A lot of it’s buried under biases, misunderstandings, and preconceived notions. But if I can look past all that and try to understand how they got there, then maybe I can start to see their side, even if I don’t fully agree.

  • @allisonnadine1537
    @allisonnadine1537 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such a great analysis!! Just subbed, can’t wait to see more!!

    • @KevsBookRant
      @KevsBookRant  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! 🙏🏾

  • @chrisspaight2955
    @chrisspaight2955 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the problem with trying to have conversations and lead with empathy is that only works if both sides are listening and empathetic.
    And from what I've seen they refuse to listen to anyone who isn't a Trump supporter.
    He'll I've seen them criticize Fox News on the rare occasions they've criticized something Trump did or said.
    That said, I also feel like there are people on the left who turned off your video as soon as you said all Trump supporters aren't racist because they also don't want to have empathy for anyone on the other side .
    I don't know how to fix this. I do think it'll get worse before it gets better.

  • @millenniumvintage9726
    @millenniumvintage9726 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Great video but you lost me when you said Trump isn’t racist. Like we haven’t heard him say racist things the last 9 years. He was racist even in his business life, refusing to rent to black people. Give me a break

  • @samuelskillern7365
    @samuelskillern7365 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Only 66 subs? I refuse to believe it. Needs to be at least 660K subs.

    • @KevsBookRant
      @KevsBookRant  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate that boss!! 👊🏾

  • @adrienturner5668
    @adrienturner5668 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This video is sad in more ways than one.

    • @KevsBookRant
      @KevsBookRant  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It what ways?

    • @PhecdaPlato
      @PhecdaPlato หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sad that people even back Trump? Sad that we are so divided?Sad because hatred and racism seems to be a new normal for some? Those things ARE sad, but are happening a video like this helps us see points of view… so as sad as the topic is, this video has is helpful. Not sure that it’s sad. But the situation that created the need for this video, is sad.

  • @FacePlant1324
    @FacePlant1324 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I think Trump supporters are willing to look past the chaos, division, and hate that he causes because they believe he can fix the system to benefit society or at least for them. My mom is the most reasonable Trump supporter. She supports Trump because of exactly what you said; she thinks he can make the US a better place. I have never trusted him, even before he was running for president, he has always be sketch to me.

    • @Horus070
      @Horus070 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes but if anyone pay attention on the lawsuits against him, they will see Trump for what he is. a cheater and a thief! Simple and clear. He will cheat the system on his favor and doesn’t care. Granted a lot of politicians do, again it clearly shows he is just another creature of the swamp he said he wants to drain. So why would he deserve my vote? Only because he speaks as if he was one of us, while he shits on his gold toilet ? He is not one of us!

    • @KevsBookRant
      @KevsBookRant  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think there are a WHOLE lot more reasonable Trump supporters than what media likes to portray.
      There’s no way all the tens of millions of people who voted for Trump are dumb, uninformed, or racist.

    • @FacePlant1324
      @FacePlant1324 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KevsBookRant Yeah, some of it is trump gas lighting them tell them the new is fake fake fake fake. They end up just believe what he says as fact because they can't trust the media. There is so much into why trump is followed by so many people.

    • @MChantal76
      @MChantal76 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Okay, please tell me how does your mother justify his criminality, his violent rhetoric and being an adjudicated rapist and sexual predetor?

  • @grumpypoetry239
    @grumpypoetry239 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid, well spoken, keep it up, this channel deserves subs

    • @KevsBookRant
      @KevsBookRant  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! 🙏🏾

  • @nimhra3250
    @nimhra3250 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, love to see more!

    • @KevsBookRant
      @KevsBookRant  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! 🙏🏾

  • @HeatherCheddarZ
    @HeatherCheddarZ 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ive been saying this for a while - i noticed bigger changes after obama became president. To be fair, i was 8 when he was elected but i noticed my parent's values shifted far, far away

  • @cpaul9269
    @cpaul9269 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that, "AmericanHistoryX" the movie, cutting in there?! That movie changed me - I'll never forget watching it the first time. Anyway....

  • @bretta3919
    @bretta3919 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, very insightful!

    • @KevsBookRant
      @KevsBookRant  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! 🙏🏾

  • @artlovervictoria
    @artlovervictoria หลายเดือนก่อน

    My friends and family and I suspect many others voted and most likely will vote for him again is *simply* because their political affiliation has been Rep ub lican for generations so, they think choosing a president from their party is like staying loyal to their football team without thought. That party has been grooming people for a long time this is just a fruition.

  • @wesleyfoley351
    @wesleyfoley351 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Born in Kenya

  • @JameJame591
    @JameJame591 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think you're leaving some context out of Donald Trump's press response to the events in Charlottesville. He explicitly stated that he's "not talking about the neo-nazis and the white nationalists" and that these groups should be "condemned totally", and has repeatedly denounced and condemned white supremacists and neo-nazis on numerous occasions before, during, and after this event. th-cam.com/video/RGrHF-su9v8/w-d-xo.html

  • @PhecdaPlato
    @PhecdaPlato หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍🏻👍🏻

  • @wildfire9280
    @wildfire9280 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cognitive dissonance is a rampant phenomenon on both sides of the aisle.

  • @nolankelly1140
    @nolankelly1140 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you!!!!!! This is exactly how I feel about this election.

  • @estebanugarte4431
    @estebanugarte4431 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Political homelessness is to real today. For me left is just too much left and sometimes the right is just too much to the right. But I personally can’t trust Kamala.
    Loved the video man keep up the amazing work! Worth the sub.

    • @KevsBookRant
      @KevsBookRant  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yea, I’m really hoping a third party can start to gain some traction sometime in our lifetime, if for no other reason than to pull both of these parties back toward the middle and keep them from being so extreme.

    • @4kstar-ve3hm
      @4kstar-ve3hm หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even worse, the whole concept of left , right, conservative vs progressive is all a lie now. The parties are just tribes now. The Republican Party is definitely not conservative when you are supporting a person with felonies, sexual assault charges etc. Adding 8.4 trillion to the deficit is definitely not fiscal conservatism. Telling woman what to do is not "less and smaller government" and control.

  • @heartonmysleeves4668
    @heartonmysleeves4668 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Both Trump and Harris/Biden voters support Gen O Side which is kinda weird. I'll take a pass on both.
    Stein/Ware2024

    • @KevsBookRant
      @KevsBookRant  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yea, I’m not a big fan of the political system as a whole. As a Black man, I feel like I’m being hustled by the Dems, and as a Christian, I feel like the Republicans are doing the same.
      Feels like neither side actually cares about their “base”; they’re just using them as pawns to grab and hold onto power.

    • @jewels7018
      @jewels7018 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stein is a grifter who is not really interested in building a political party. Feel free to throw away your vote.

    • @MChantal76
      @MChantal76 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What exactly has Jill Stein done for her party when it's not an election year? You never hear from this woman except every four years when she becomes a spoiler.

    • @heartonmysleeves4668
      @heartonmysleeves4668 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MChantal76 Currently she's the only candidate opposed to JennaSide. . It's all I need to know.
      I take it you're fine w/ JennaSide?

    • @MChantal76
      @MChantal76 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@heartonmysleeves4668 You must be if you vote for Jill Stein since a vote for her is really a vote for Trump and he's on record for letting BN quote/unquote "do what he has to do".