Why You Should or Should Not Work at a Startup by Justin Kan

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  • Justin Kan is the CEO of Atrium - www.atrium.co/
    Before cofounding Atrium, Justin was a Partner at YC and cofounder of Justin.tv/Twitch and Exec.
    He gave this talk at YC's Work at a Startup Expo. Learn more at www.workatastartup.com/expo
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  • @mynameismatt2010
    @mynameismatt2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Start-up guarantees
    1: Stress
    2: Long shitty hours
    3: interpersonal conflict
    4: Amazing learning opportunities
    5: Tremendously accelerated personal growth
    6: A sense that your work actually matters

    • @ainsleyharriott2209
      @ainsleyharriott2209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I haven’t experienced points 4, 5 or 6 myself yet...

    • @saviofernandes5263
      @saviofernandes5263 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ainsleyharriott2209 same here

    • @amando96
      @amando96 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ainsleyharriott2209 haha same.

    • @elcapitan6126
      @elcapitan6126 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the last 3 can be attained in non-startups and minus the first 3. I.e. startups generally aren't worth it for software engineers. they ARE worth it for non-eng founders who can offload the stress to the software engineers (as this guy did). moral of the story: software engineers *will* be exploited in startups.

    • @mynameismatt2010
      @mynameismatt2010 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elcapitan6126 totally disagree.

  • @binithasurendran8977
    @binithasurendran8977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Loved the comment about Y-intercept. “ It not where your Y-intercept is that matters, it’s your slope of learning .” profound

    • @Startupsandsushi
      @Startupsandsushi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My y-intercept started at -2 but my slope is m = 20

    • @vitaliysakun-duvalko8946
      @vitaliysakun-duvalko8946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Startupsandsushi that’s great lol. I love watching videos like these

    • @BallyBoy95
      @BallyBoy95 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmao, that's jokes. My y-intercept is -1,000, time to find out if my m is good enough to to change my fate.

  • @Yuchub33
    @Yuchub33 5 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    im a chemist and I graduated 5 months ago, I work at a startup , it was basically this or working for a lower wage as a lab technician, it has its benefits but its definitely not for everyone, if you cant tolerate uncertainty, chaos and ambiguity its not for you. If you consider yourself a nonconformist or independent person you should try it, specially if you just graduated, you will learn a lot about "real life" stuff. I have a somewhat flexible working hours, decent pay and benefits, and Im learning a lot of how a business runs, also I have direct communication with investors and I feel like my ideas truly matter, I feel like im part of mythbusters lol. Everyday I do different tasks so I never get bored

    • @xulipaTV
      @xulipaTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. If you can learn how to navigate in the thunderstorms aka. startups then it's a wonderful mess.

    • @KheHindenburg
      @KheHindenburg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      what startup was this?

  • @ilovetech8341
    @ilovetech8341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Has anyone heard of a startup that hasn't ripped off their employees equity in the last decade?

  • @aemericenglish2417
    @aemericenglish2417 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    1. managment suck
    2. not get rich
    1. get job that ure not qualified
    2. can build startup
    3. Maximize speed of learning
    4.

  • @DiddleDangle
    @DiddleDangle ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh man that bit about "You will get access to jobs you're completely unqualified for" SO TRUE hahaha. Been doing it for the past 5 years and it's been awful and great.

  • @DesignLead
    @DesignLead 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best talk ever!

  • @ahyungrocks5509
    @ahyungrocks5509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    He is an awesome speaker...very funny, yet informational.

  • @MM-yq2mc
    @MM-yq2mc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Justin - you are a G - Big ups bruh

  • @kopiking352
    @kopiking352 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome sharing !!!

  • @Alex.Shalda
    @Alex.Shalda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Justin is amazing

  • @AntonioHernandez-bo5jt
    @AntonioHernandez-bo5jt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks

  • @dishcleaner2
    @dishcleaner2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I started in the corporate world. Work life balance but my skills stagnated massively. Now in a startup. It’s like I’m in the hyperbolic time chamber unlocking new super saiyan transformations. I am hustling 10 hour days tho

  • @bccoleman8678
    @bccoleman8678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why do you need to go through YC or another incubator for a fourth time? Haven’t you learnt the skills/tricks the first few times and thus giving away the equity is wasted? Or is the value add of YC simply that great?

    • @pedroblas5739
      @pedroblas5739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YC is awesome

    • @bccoleman8678
      @bccoleman8678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pedroblas5739 but for the fourth time. Just say u make a billion dollar company. Are they $70m awesome? Considering you have already learnt from YC the skills, network, contacts, confidence, reputation., I don’t know man but I’d lean no!

  • @SportsIncorporated
    @SportsIncorporated 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    'access to jobs you are completely unqualified for'. You can do that with government.

  • @Sateay
    @Sateay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is a good startup salary?

  • @batmanb8194
    @batmanb8194 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Um half the pay for equity that gets diluted 5 times or never gets given, no thanks

    • @sparcx86channel42
      @sparcx86channel42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      equity from companies that worths nothing most of times

    • @mynameismatt2010
      @mynameismatt2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If your equity is getting diluted that's a GOOD thing... It means you're getting financing. When it sucks is if the valuation goes down and you're still getting diluted.

    • @pavankumarsreenivasmurthy9488
      @pavankumarsreenivasmurthy9488 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's better to eat a small piece out of big cake rather than a big piece out of a small cake.

  • @phil7121
    @phil7121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:25 that didn't age well

  • @cfquaglia
    @cfquaglia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    If you listened to this talk without watching, you would think it's Barack Obama speaking.

    • @drichards4426
      @drichards4426 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ehh. Slightly higher pitch on this guy.

    • @Bozogumps
      @Bozogumps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not even slightly close

  • @capcdn9593
    @capcdn9593 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If you take away all the banter about camaraderie... you’re left with some points minus any sort of elaboration. This was more of a chit-chat session without any facts that supports his pros and cons list. He’s a terrible speaker lol