dont know if anyone gives a damn but if you are bored like me atm then you can watch all the new series on InstaFlixxer. Have been binge watching with my gf for the last couple of months :)
Yeah, but when comparing LEDs to LEDs, most LEDs PUR and PAR are fairly equivalent well except when LED makers use too many white LEDs or green (ick) LEDs, since all the blue/royal blue/violet LED colors that they use are all within the same photosynthetic range.
A lot of my reefing friends got Orpheks with LED’s that simply just burned through after a few months, this shouldn’t be a thing for a light this expensive
Oh yeah? I'd be curious to see what's inside, and would be really telling if they do the same "thin metal license plate for heatsink" that the black boxes use.
Have not placed them yet but I just held one in place and WOW, its going to do it. Now, to remove or not to remove the lenses is the next question. I'll hang them first. Not looking for PAR, just color.
I got an OR3 60 about a month ago and I really like it but the shadows are definitely going to have to be addressed. I think I'm going to get a reefbrite XHO 50/50 light to complement because it has a much wider spread than the orpheks, even though it has less power at its peaks, the coverage should be a great complement.
Hi Alex can you help I have two Red Sea 90s which are on the blue setting from 11-30 to 10-30 . I’m thinking you putting the 1 x 3ft orpheck 0r3 with the mixed whites .whats your thoughts please cheers Andy 🏴
I think that'd look good - the blue plus OR3 gives a nice little extra blue that takes the edge off my white, but it doesn't overwhelm with too much blue. I'm considering getting 2x Red Sea 160s with two of these either side for my tank.
U might switch back to kessils? I guess you really don’t like the reefbreeders, they are nice but you get what u pay for, not allot of features for the cheaper price, just get four radions and four of these strips and be done!! Lol
I can't attribute anything particular to it - extra growth, better colour etc - but I'm happy with it and I prefer the look of the tank with it turned on if that helps.
I have the 150cm Giesemann hybrid over a 2 meter tank. I'm looking at this bar to enhance the blue. What do you think a year later? Still a great supplement?
I've changed my lights now, but I really liked the Orphek and thought about having it in my new setup. I chose Reefbrites instead because they give better spread, but the blue plus was great. The blue sky looks interesting too so worth thinking about too...
@@ReefDork Today I ordered two 90 cm blue plus OR3 bars. It seems like a good idea for a 2 meter long tank. The Giesemann is 10cm to the rear of center so I'll place these two up front. The bars have evolved well since you made this video.
Hey, can you please tell me when you switch on OR3 ? Starting sunrise ? First you on OR3 or you are using evergrow sunrise first and than later stage switch on the OR3. The same question is for moonlight and when you turning off the light ? Thanks
Alright mate, after the stream thinking of getting one of these orphek lights myself instead of the hybrid set-up I'm looking at, as 1. finding the bulbs is next to impossible, 2.the cost of the fixture and lights is going to be over £500, 3. Plugging in the hybrid fixture which has 2 plugs and as you no sockets are hard to find LoL 😂. So I'm thinking of suspending one of these at the front of the tank as I don't have many Cora's at the back I just need more light at the front, what do you think? And do you think it would add anything to the tank ie grow corals better, nicer colours in the aquarium. Cheers Alex 👍
Hi Ste. They give a different effect to T5s of course, but it's another good choice. It'll add par, a nice bit of spectrum and it'll give a nice colour. So it'll increase growth, but I wouldn't expect a massive difference. Although i'd expect your alkalinity consumption to increase. Visually, it'll look better though for sure. Orphek are bringing out an all 450-470nm version though which in my opinion gives a much nicer look - proper nuclear fluorescence! The one I have does give good fluorescence, but it includes violet and more muted blues so it's a more subtle effect. My dream setup is 2x Kessil AP500x with 2 of the new 450nm Orhpeks either side.
@@ReefDork I no you mentioned something like that in your video, looking at some serious money for that set-up, this is the problem in this hobby is that we are always trying to find perfection, albeit in the lighting department or skimmers or return pump's, and it all costs a fortune, I could of travelled the world for the amount I've spent on my tank. You've probably spent more LoL 🤣. But thanks for getting back to me mate appreciate your insight and knowledge 👍👍
i've looking to buy those lights for my myself too.I email the company and they said that the orphek OR3 120 blue plus(or the reef day plus)won't be enough to cover my 120X50X40 tank and i should probably get 2 OR3 60's for that dimensions.What do you think of? The only i will be keeping is soft corals and maybe some hammers-torches but mostly soft,i think for that corals the '120' will be enough
well hopefully kessil is watching and updates the AP700 to include orphek style light bars, they could even design them so they were kind of like a slide on addition so you didnt have to fork out all the money at once.......id like to also see a design from orphek where these units could be daisy chained or clipped together to keep wiring down to a minimum and then borrow kessils idea of an additional spectral controller,or maybe how about reef lights with google\Alexa voice integration hmmm....cheers Alex.
With the WiFi plugs I can use Alexa to turn the bar on or off. But nothing else. You can use Alexa on ecotech stuff but it's awful and works 10% of the time! "Alexa, tell ecosmart live to turn on feed mode" *turns off Radions* 🙈😅
Curious how these compare to the cheap knockoffs blue bars that you see on Aliexpress (considerably cheaper price too), granted I think those are only blue LEDs so the Orphek definitely has a leg up on spreading out the wavelengths, but still for the budget reefer they may be a decent alternative to T5s. I am also surprised at your comment about using OR3s with 2 Kessil fixtures, you seem(ed?) to like the "budget" Evergrow fixtures you have over the tank quite a bit, I think you even said it was one of your favorite pieces of reef gear in another video (?).
I got one of those from Aliexpress for my 2nd refugium but before putting it there I tried it on my tank to suplement my Aqua Medic Angels. Maybe I'm too used to have the front of my tank look dark (the tank is 90 cms wide), but the led bar made the tank look cheap. That being said, they are powerful enough to make a difference, they blend the different colours well and I'm sure my corals would love to have some extra light beyond what's being reflected by the front glass. I decided not to get them for the tank, not because I thought they lack quality, but because I prefer to have strong shadows right at the front of the tank. This test made me give up on the idea of adding any sort of extra diffuse light to the tank. Bottom line is, these Aliexpress bars are good lights.
@@flipfly2004 Do you have any links to the video where he does this? I've started to watch what he does, not a huge fan of his podcast style of talking, but I do like this info.
I should add - the PAR readings were all taken 12-24 inches below the waterline with the light a further 10 inches above. I've seen other tanks with more PAR, I actually don't want masses more PAR 🙂
@@Tetrastructural Dimming these lights should be easy, the orphek v4 uses a mean well driver, find a mean well driver that is rated for the same vF and current with 0-10v dimming. Mean well drivers come standard with it as well. These bars are nothing special but a pcb strip with diodes soldered, they do not have any special logic boards.
@@ReefDork if you really want to know...first i cant understand your english well, you talk too fast and tongue tigh. But also you dont explain much what this light brings to the reef tank, last and not least, you use a freaking reefbreeders that gives more emphases than anything else. So you used orphek to sell the breeders. waist of time
See here why I recently ditched T5s in favour of LEDs - th-cam.com/video/EMLkvRCqg6M/w-d-xo.html
dont know if anyone gives a damn but if you are bored like me atm then you can watch all the new series on InstaFlixxer. Have been binge watching with my gf for the last couple of months :)
@Isaiah Aydin Yup, have been using Instaflixxer for since november myself :)
Another thing to bear in mind is that the OR3’s are packed full of PUR whereas PAR is just an amount of light 👍
Yeah, but when comparing LEDs to LEDs, most LEDs PUR and PAR are fairly equivalent well except when LED makers use too many white LEDs or green (ick) LEDs, since all the blue/royal blue/violet LED colors that they use are all within the same photosynthetic range.
Reef Dork changing out lights like my wife changes her hair color with the seasons haha 😄
😁
A lot of my reefing friends got Orpheks with LED’s that simply just burned through after a few months, this shouldn’t be a thing for a light this expensive
did they have warranties?
I don't mind these bars, but orpheks engineering is questionable, opening up the atlanik v4 it looks like an overpriced blackbox.
Oh yeah? I'd be curious to see what's inside, and would be really telling if they do the same "thin metal license plate for heatsink" that the black boxes use.
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Mike B that’s what 800+ usd gets you lol
Great Review ! Tank looks Great ! Thanks !
Damn i was planning on buying them, good timing!
Would you tell me what is the brand of your leds beside the Orphek LED?
Evergrow IT5012 (I have two)
@@ReefDork Thanks you very much
Have not placed them yet but I just held one in place and WOW, its going to do it. Now, to remove or not to remove the lenses is the next question. I'll hang them first. Not looking for PAR, just color.
Super video as always
300quid for 1 you can get 12 t5 bulbs and need to be replaced every 18-24 months not 12.
Please please please black out the back! The fish are sad looking at that wallpaper!
I got an OR3 60 about a month ago and I really like it but the shadows are definitely going to have to be addressed. I think I'm going to get a reefbrite XHO 50/50 light to complement because it has a much wider spread than the orpheks, even though it has less power at its peaks, the coverage should be a great complement.
I just order two of these to go over my 4x2x2 tank. Looking to get rid of my t5s as well good video thank you
two Kessil ap 700 s and two orphek bars or 1 attlantik v4 and two bars both options good
Man , what a light. I also have it. I love the colours! How IS the high mount? And how many hours do you run it a day? Thx :)
I took it down after a couple of years. I think it was probably around 10 inches off the water and on for maybe 7-10 hours a day
Hi Alex can you help
I have two Red Sea 90s which are on the blue setting from 11-30 to 10-30 . I’m thinking you putting the 1 x 3ft orpheck 0r3 with the mixed whites .whats your thoughts please cheers Andy 🏴
I think that'd look good - the blue plus OR3 gives a nice little extra blue that takes the edge off my white, but it doesn't overwhelm with too much blue. I'm considering getting 2x Red Sea 160s with two of these either side for my tank.
I’m sold! Looks awesome!
U might switch back to kessils? I guess you really don’t like the reefbreeders, they are nice but you get what u pay for, not allot of features for the cheaper price, just get four radions and four of these strips and be done!! Lol
No, I love the Reefbreeders - the blues are unreal. I just miss the Kessil shimmer so I'd have to choose between the two 🙂
I was 20th view!!
Excellent video Alex!
Hey! Could you do a follow up video? I wanna see how this light has treated your tank these past 4 months
I can't attribute anything particular to it - extra growth, better colour etc - but I'm happy with it and I prefer the look of the tank with it turned on if that helps.
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hello how long have you had your it 5012 light bar? thank you
About seven months
I like
11"from surface of water how far from your scape would you say 👍🏻
Probably another 10-12 inches. My scape is pretty low.
I have the 150cm Giesemann hybrid over a 2 meter tank. I'm looking at this bar to enhance the blue. What do you think a year later? Still a great supplement?
I've changed my lights now, but I really liked the Orphek and thought about having it in my new setup. I chose Reefbrites instead because they give better spread, but the blue plus was great. The blue sky looks interesting too so worth thinking about too...
@@ReefDork Today I ordered two 90 cm blue plus OR3 bars. It seems like a good idea for a 2 meter long tank. The Giesemann is 10cm to the rear of center so I'll place these two up front. The bars have evolved well since you made this video.
Hey, can you please tell me when you switch on OR3 ? Starting sunrise ? First you on OR3 or you are using evergrow sunrise first and than later stage switch on the OR3. The same question is for moonlight and when you turning off the light ? Thanks
I switch in on 2 hours after my main lights come on then off an hour before lights out.
@@ReefDork Thanks
What is your main led bar?
The lights either side of the Orphek? They're Evergrow IT5012s...
Alright mate, after the stream thinking of getting one of these orphek lights myself instead of the hybrid set-up I'm looking at, as 1. finding the bulbs is next to impossible, 2.the cost of the fixture and lights is going to be over £500, 3. Plugging in the hybrid fixture which has 2 plugs and as you no sockets are hard to find LoL 😂. So I'm thinking of suspending one of these at the front of the tank as I don't have many Cora's at the back I just need more light at the front, what do you think? And do you think it would add anything to the tank ie grow corals better, nicer colours in the aquarium. Cheers Alex 👍
Hi Ste. They give a different effect to T5s of course, but it's another good choice. It'll add par, a nice bit of spectrum and it'll give a nice colour. So it'll increase growth, but I wouldn't expect a massive difference. Although i'd expect your alkalinity consumption to increase. Visually, it'll look better though for sure. Orphek are bringing out an all 450-470nm version though which in my opinion gives a much nicer look - proper nuclear fluorescence! The one I have does give good fluorescence, but it includes violet and more muted blues so it's a more subtle effect. My dream setup is 2x Kessil AP500x with 2 of the new 450nm Orhpeks either side.
@@ReefDork I no you mentioned something like that in your video, looking at some serious money for that set-up, this is the problem in this hobby is that we are always trying to find perfection, albeit in the lighting department or skimmers or return pump's, and it all costs a fortune, I could of travelled the world for the amount I've spent on my tank. You've probably spent more LoL 🤣. But thanks for getting back to me mate appreciate your insight and knowledge 👍👍
100% mate! And perfection doesn't exist so I'd probably want to upgrade again a year later 🤦♂️
@@ReefDork LoL 🤣🤣🤣🤣
i've looking to buy those lights for my myself too.I email the company and they said that the orphek OR3 120 blue plus(or the reef day plus)won't be enough to cover my 120X50X40 tank and i should probably get 2 OR3 60's for that dimensions.What do you think of? The only i will be keeping is soft corals and maybe some hammers-torches but mostly soft,i think for that corals the '120' will be enough
Based on my PAR readings, i'd say there's no way 1 OR120 will be enough - bare minimum 2, ideally 3 IMO
@@ReefDork really?? It's not gonna be enough for even soft corals?
@@dimossaraglis40 I have 3 AI Primes on my 120x50x35cm Reef - add i want to add 2 OR3 90 BLue Bar left and right to get perfekt spread :)
well hopefully kessil is watching and updates the AP700 to include orphek style light bars, they could even design them so they were kind of like a slide on addition so you didnt have to fork out all the money at once.......id like to also see a design from orphek where these units could be daisy chained or clipped together to keep wiring down to a minimum and then borrow kessils idea of an additional spectral controller,or maybe how about reef lights with google\Alexa voice integration hmmm....cheers Alex.
With the WiFi plugs I can use Alexa to turn the bar on or off. But nothing else. You can use Alexa on ecotech stuff but it's awful and works 10% of the time! "Alexa, tell ecosmart live to turn on feed mode" *turns off Radions* 🙈😅
@@ReefDork ha ha thats a good point to be fair,i could see that causing some issues 🤣
Will an L bracket fit a 32 in reefbreeder, or just an Orphek Atlantik V4?
I think probably yes but I don't know
Whoops, I meant a 48 inch, but thanks for replying.
Curious how these compare to the cheap knockoffs blue bars that you see on Aliexpress (considerably cheaper price too), granted I think those are only blue LEDs so the Orphek definitely has a leg up on spreading out the wavelengths, but still for the budget reefer they may be a decent alternative to T5s.
I am also surprised at your comment about using OR3s with 2 Kessil fixtures, you seem(ed?) to like the "budget" Evergrow fixtures you have over the tank quite a bit, I think you even said it was one of your favorite pieces of reef gear in another video (?).
I got one of those from Aliexpress for my 2nd refugium but before putting it there I tried it on my tank to suplement my Aqua Medic Angels.
Maybe I'm too used to have the front of my tank look dark (the tank is 90 cms wide), but the led bar made the tank look cheap.
That being said, they are powerful enough to make a difference, they blend the different colours well and I'm sure my corals would love to have some extra light beyond what's being reflected by the front glass.
I decided not to get them for the tank, not because I thought they lack quality, but because I prefer to have strong shadows right at the front of the tank.
This test made me give up on the idea of adding any sort of extra diffuse light to the tank.
Bottom line is, these Aliexpress bars are good lights.
Telegraham on TH-cam tested those knockoffs and for $35 (for the 54w), they have awesome spread and par and specially wide blue spectrum!
@@flipfly2004 Do you have any links to the video where he does this? I've started to watch what he does, not a huge fan of his podcast style of talking, but I do like this info.
@@Mike__B th-cam.com/video/rT8stM8o4Lg/w-d-xo.html
Did u do an update video?!?
I just sold it today actually. It's still really good, I just decided to go with 2x Kessils instead for better shimmer.
@@ReefDork sweeeet. Good luck with the xessil i hope a video is coming soon.
Not a fan of the light £200 for extra 100 par and not controllable is there no option for the supplement light to be a slave unit to the other 2
There will be a dimmer in the future :D
I should add - the PAR readings were all taken 12-24 inches below the waterline with the light a further 10 inches above. I've seen other tanks with more PAR, I actually don't want masses more PAR 🙂
@@suvporridge2603 Yeah but that's what they said 2 years ago...still waiting :|
@@Tetrastructural yeah, i know it takes long, i asked a couple months ago when and they replied hopefully this or next year
@@Tetrastructural Dimming these lights should be easy, the orphek v4 uses a mean well driver, find a mean well driver that is rated for the same vF and current with 0-10v dimming. Mean well drivers come standard with it as well. These bars are nothing special but a pcb strip with diodes soldered, they do not have any special logic boards.
Please don't get the kessils lol. You only just fixed your light spread issues. If you go back to kessil you will be back where you started!
I dont know how orphek could give you this light for this video man
Why not?
@@ReefDork if you really want to know...first i cant understand your english well, you talk too fast and tongue tigh. But also you dont explain much what this light brings to the reef tank, last and not least, you use a freaking reefbreeders that gives more emphases than anything else. So you used orphek to sell the breeders. waist of time
Fair enough!
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