Is College Still Worth It? | Patriot Act with Hasan Minhaj | Netflix
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- Hasan explores how universities became corporatized over the past few decades and if the rising costs of college are still worth it in a post-pandemic world.
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The U.S. treats college like a necessity but prices it like a luxury.
Now you understand the future of education....
Just like the healthcare system
first thing they should do is allow people to use bankcrupcy to get rid of college debt. That'll force the system to get reworked real fast
@@Vindignatio who should, those bankers who own the debt ? good luck with that.
usa is a bunch of companies pretending to be a ''nation''
I WAS A TEACHING ASSISTANT AT PURDUE FOR THREE YEARS. They paid us almost nothing and we worked in a mold-infested building. Thanks for the shout-out Hasan!
I was a TA at University of Illinois during grad school and still left over 50k in debt, and they tried to argue we shouldn't get tuition assistance the last semester and I spent months in arbitration just to get a couple thousand.
HEAV represent!
They promise you ‘exposure’. If only exposure paid the bills. Same thing we tell our interns. Really we just needed cheap labor as we fired half our staff and legally the spots needed to remain ‘open’ for the remainder of the quarter
Not even gonna name my uni. Came to America with hope and dream, left with 20k debt and 3 years I will never get back. All for a degree I could have got if I just stayed in Canada
I was a TA at Duke University. Same!
This show has taught me that 90% of America's problems stem from the fact that it's a country "Of the Business, By the Business, and For the Business."
You aren't wrong. As an American, I have become extremely disheartened.
i think that the fact that anyone needs to see a show like this to understand that is part of the problem. America has been as shitty as this for more than a decade. people have been pointing this out for ages ;)
Amen, Vito. Amen!
Luna A newsflash, not everyone comes to the realization at the same time. Even though maybe you and I have known this for decades, doesn’t mean everyone has. Think about how many people don’t even know the true depths of slavery yet it is supposedly taught in our schools.
any economic model is vulnerable to contempt of values in the end. corporate world feels like a weird black mirror like one, it's appalling
Netflix cancelled a show like "Patriot Act" and approved a movie like "Cuties"
Let that sink in
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it’s not the movie the movie is fine it’s the horrible oversexualised poster
edit: at the time i wrote this comment i only heard from secondary sources which said it wasn’t as bad as people made it out to be and i didn’t watch the movie (i think it wasn’t out on netflix yet so only a few people had watched it at that point), it was wrong of me to take what they said as fact without watching it and i should not have made this comment
The fact that some people actually think the movie with a bunch of "11 year old children twerking" in the most sexualised manner is okay, is beyond me.
It’s cancelled? Thought it was just getting started .. wow
sherrysicle the movie was actually worse than the poster
"is a degree worth it?"
not really, but we don't get to make that conclusion. employers do.
A solid point as only those in control can truly make the decision. What a bother
"Good and evil are not constants; their meanings are determined by those with power. "
More and more employers aren’t looking for them
*requiring
I went agains a person with a bachelor’s degree to get a Banker position at a bank. I thought I was toast but I got the job. They chose experience (maybe charisma) over a university degree). From there on I stop believing in the importance of college.
You can.. say you pursued a degree in your resume.. and you can't be held accountable learn the skills and you'll be on the workforce forever!
They say “You don’t need a college degree” but yet their Job reqs say “Master’s Degree req”
I am betting that unless your job is purely programming related, you won't get hired at SpaceX for anything but being a janitor without a college degree.
Actually most Silicon Valley big names are changing their job descriptions to 4 year bachelors or equivalent work experience or projects. Which means you have to grind it out with online free courses and build your own project portfolio to stand out but it’s possible
@@300joker But this only work for IT Degrees, I don't think the same rules applied for Mechanical engineering or Electrical engineering.
I’m debating on going back to school bc I can’t get a job filing papers with my bachelors 😒
So true.
Hasan: Is college still worth it?
Me, three years into a four year degree: *sweats nervously*
It depends on your major. If you're getting a STEM degree, probably. If you're getting a BA without getting any practical experience like an internship, then probably not. I write this as someone with a BA who has a job that doesn't require it.
LMAO SAMMMEE 😂😭😭
@@alankoslowski9473 STEM doesn't pay fucking anything what? The technology and Engineering part maybe, but you get a four year degree in science or math and I hope you like being paid ~30k/yr.
@@alankoslowski9473 The problem is that everyone get pushed into STEM so now there are a ton of people with STEM degrees and not enough jobs to for them so it's hyper competitive at least in my state. There are level 1 help desks roles in my area that requires a bachelor degree to do what is essentially gathering information and passing it to the higher tier if it's not a simple fix. the fun part is that they pay like $12 an hour if you're lucky. What needs to happen is a institutional shift in the way education is viewed and funded so people don't go into debt just pursuing a degree they want at any college in the country.
@@Mehiall1 even for technology, it might not be worth it. I went to UCB for a bachelor's in computer science. And I end up coding apps, websites and servers. Can kinda learn that more cheaply in bootcamps
Another thing that Andrew Yang has been saying all along, the big reason why college costs are increasing is because of so many unnecessary administrators and paying their ridiculous salaries
Also programs and pre-reqs that have entirely nothing to do with the field you actually care about.
Your comment has been tag by "Provost",now you are in their blacklist.....
@@chrissullivan331 No. It's administrator salaries, luxury facilities, and textbook publishers. There are several criticisms toward Liberal Arts education systems, but the difference in cost at $55k/y 3-year university degree (international timeline for most degrees) vs. 4-year (Liberal Arts) is $55k.
The difference in a $2k/y (common international cost) versus $55k/y for a 4-year degree is $218k.
Even if one were to go with inflation-adjusted prices of only US universities, the value comes out ridiculous. Ivy league schools in 1960 were ~$2k/y. Inflation-adjusted, that's ~$20k/y now. $55k/y for 4 years vs. $20k/y is $140k/y.
"Programs and pre-reqs that have entirely nothing to do with the field you actually care about" is a huge red herring. If they were more than a drop in the bucket, the cost of the few 3-year schools in the US would be closer to international and 1960 (inflation-adjusted) standards. However, they aren't.
Because higher university is privatized. They compete with each other to make their campuses more attractive and some of these extra amenities come from non tutition fees. Like I go to UC and we had to pay like extra $500 fee for a new swimming pool.
@@EnceliaActoni You realize Hasan said it's worse for public colleges right?
Hasan is finally adopting the wardrobe of an Indian uncle.
Kkkk
then he will have to dump the sneakers and wear slippers.
At least he's consistent 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lmfaoo
*He's Evolving*
"America is a third world country with iPhones"
Edit: I now finished the episode, let me rephrase: "America is a third world country with iPhones and Lazy Rivers"
Mmm nah, I'm from a third world country. They caused the third world.
No, you are such a first world country that you could not even recognize what problems from a third world country look like.
America is by definition a first country, which is a Cold War era terminology that didn’t stick elsewhere in the world. I would say it is a underdeveloped nation with severe inequality.
I've heard "third world country with a Gucci belt"
A Ng you’re so offended dude. Relax.
The saddest part is that even with a degree, once you're over fifty, you're still worthless in the eyes of most potential employers. I was lucky enough to get my BFA in the late 1980's. It pulled me out of poverty into the middle class. For years I enjoyed a good income , good credit and the chance to feel a part of the American dream. Then I turned fifty. Job offers disappeared and my income declined to the point where I burned through my pension and eventually had to sell my home. At the beginning of the year I was hopeful for a chance to start earning good money again, then Covid-19 hit. I've been out of work since April.
I'm also an adjunct instructor at a local community college, that was forced to close it's campus because of the pandemic. Without any assistance the school expected me to have an online class available so that it could list my class in the catalog. I declined. I didn't want to broadcast a Zoom class from my condo bedroom so the school could make most of the money. At a certain point in life, you get tired of jumping through hoops to please people, only to get paid a pauper's wage.
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I'm so sorry.
So who exactly are these employers hiring? They arent hiring new grads and they arent hiring old people.
@@TheMrgoodmanners They arent hiring anyone - they just expect those workers they have to do more and more and more and because they dont want to end up like OP they do it
Very great comment. Thank you for your input jdnelms62.
"To all my Asian parents, that's them being proud. I know, weird." Spot on.
In case you don’t get the ridiculous amount of Harvard’s endowment: $40 billion can pay for all of its undergrads’ tuitions 27 times over
That mean that with a very bad return on investment they would be able to charge less, but capitalism is like that everyone wants to go there and they pay so why would they, America should consider regulations, because many of this schools are non profit
Being the best University in the world where so many genius minds came out of ... One would think they care about education and brilliance...
@@pedrorequio5515 US companies and organisations take capitalism waaay too far
Instrumentality1000 Excellent point. For most POCs college is the only way out of poverty
I agree with your feelings, but I have to point out that this would only benefit ONE class. A huge portion of the endowment is put into longer-term investments that make money by themselves, so that next year the endowment will be as large or larger. This is explained well by the phrase, "spend money to make money." They support themselves and their students with the revenues from these investments as well as the massive interest on the accounts. Spending a large portion of it, let alone all of it, in one place would hurt the students' aid more than it would help them.
It seems like every single episode of Patriot Act that talks about the US can be summarized as "...and then corporate greed destroyed it all." Even universities act like greedy corporations.
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Very perceptive comment.
It’s not cooperate greed it’s the government’s fault. The solution to the problem is to stop giving out student loans. When the government started giving out student loans, college became affordable to more people, so the demand for college increased.
In response, colleges jacked up prices because people could afford to go with student loans.
If we stop giving out student loans, not as many people will be able to afford it, so demand will go down. In order for colleges to stay in business they will need to drop their prices.
This is guaranteed to work it’s basic economics.
@@King205 Essentially, stop people from going to college so less people will have high paying jobs. The people with high paying jobs will have plenty of money to fall back on, can force higher pay because there are few people to do those jobs, and the people who can no longer go to college can do the low paying jobs.
Maybe if they're lucky, they'll commit suicide and leave more money to everyone else and give their dead end, mind numbing and unappreciated job to someone else, who will likely be talked down to and degraded because they didn't go to college. They will be unable to get money to sent their children to college, and repeat the cycle.
Basic economics? The rich don't care how much money they have to spend; they can afford it. The college may hike up prices, but the people able to pay will do so. Instead, what happens is the college grows smaller and more 'elite'. It's the nobles vs the peasants all over again. Only the rich 'deserve' college because they can pay for it. Those that can't afford it don't deserve it anyway. Rich get richer, poor get poorer.
But yes, it's all the governments fault and not corporate greed. Basic economics, meet common sense.
@D. Steven For profit colleges are a cancer. They've never had moral superiority. If they ever claimed it, they lied. Honestly, that was one of the biggest draws for Bernie. Make college free, and anyone who wants to go can go. Pass or fail on your own merits. A great number of people don't go to college because they know they'll be paying for the loans for the rest of their lives. Make college free, and more will go because there's really no reason not to. It'll raise the collective intelligence of the USA, though, and lord knows we can't have THAT.
Short answer: Yes, but not with the American tuition costs.
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As German paying 500€max a term, I agree.
Yes, study somewhere else
@@fionafiona1146 you forget to add that driving with tubes and busses are included with the tuition fee
As an Aussie I agree :D
I'm glad that the Australian government is so supportive to it's citizens for higher education and healthcare. Hopefully America follows suit.
"...a catch-22, you can't afford college but the rules of modern society are forcing you to go", this is very true, my heart went out to that last family shown. I'm 1st generation as well and felt that need to go to college, to make my parent's sacrifices worth it. I'm in Canada which is better but student debt is still an issue here.
me too. my parents made me go. and it took me over 3 years to land a job. and that was after lying my ass off.
How is the job market for people with college degrees in Canada? It sucks in the US.
As someone who has both been homeless while working as a college professors, and worked at EPCOT, this segment really spoke to me.
Hahaha, i told some of my students that and the next day they brought me food
I made more selling phones with an unrelated bachelor's degree than my friends still in academia, who have to teach AND pay tuition.
And it's not even close.
Wait?!? Homeless?!?! While working as a college professor?!? With the amount of tuition we pay?!? What the heck?!?
@@RainASMR101 Yeah, what the heck? You shouldn't have to be homeless while teaching at a college. Where's all the money going to that students pay for their tuition???
@@RainASMR101 ... Um, didn't you watch the video before going to the comment section?
For all the Asian parent what they were doing is called “being proud”
Being an Indian that hit hard
The curse of IIT
that's stupid
relate
@@anushkasingh2647 sis I know you are kidding but there are many iitians who are genuinely passionate.
My brother for example, he studied very less, played video games and watched WWE everyday lol. But when he studied even an apocalypse couldn't shift his attention.
I know parents create stigma with educational superiority which is wrong.
facts
Univerities: "Bruh, we're out of money."
Also universities: "Check out this lazy river that spells LSU"
Seriously tho!!!! My school always rose the tuition like every year, and instead of buying the art college a new building that was actually wheelchair accessible or, you know? Something important? They wasted it on a shiny new fence for the main building no one asked for and two new Parking lots students can’t even use!
@@TheLastHylianTitan Same. My college had 2 gym buildings. But one of the elevators in my 11 story tall dorm frequently broke, and the wifi averaged around 50kbps in there.
TheLastHylianTitan Yes wheelchair access IS A MUST, Art College is full of disabled people.
Send the kids to schools in South Korea and China so the can actually learn.
Sadly, it's been an arms race for decades. Given two schools of similar academic quality, many students will choose the one with the fun amenities, rather than the one with basic dorms and a mere swimming pool at the gym.
it's funny that elon musk says that "there's no need to even have a college degree". try applying to spacex or tesla without a college degree and see what job you get.
you can, many of their engineers didn't finish college
They require experience
You'll get a job based on your skills
I have an graduate degree in Mechanical engineering and honestly I have given up on applying for big companies because despite being qualified I haven't gotten a single call back
@@arunkumaarpoongothaiprabha5020 you are doing something wrong, i graduated with an undergrad degree in electrical engineering in 2019 and started out making 75k/year, bumped up to 110k with now 2 years experience.
Freshman: I'm finally here.
Coffin dancers: Play the music
Honestly
*Looks at my student loan bill then at the coffin in the video*
"God I wish that was me"
We need you all at RealDealAmerica,com
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This is too accurate sadly
There isn’t one single institution in the USA that isn’t enraging.
What about airlines? They don’t seem enraging.
@@ImranQureshi-mf2gc huh strange seeing an Arab say that
@@hangukhiphop Hey man let's start putting racist remarks behind us in 2020, we've got tons of issues in America right now and racism isn't the way forward in the world.
@@hangukhiphop not cool
Porn Industry! does that sound enraging?
It's like EVERYTHING in our system is just drowned by greed.
The American Dream backfired.
This is confusing, why say system? In any society larger than a small town, self-interest will become the dominant motivator for the vast majority of individuals. Everyone is trying to get on top, it is human nature. If Harvard can afford to not allow students to defer a year they absolutely will, unless the negative implications outway the profit motivators (ie empathy concerns or future profit lost). Only in our individual interactions can people become human with each other.
Thank govt corruption.
@@Arbiter609 amen
Thats because it is
As a grad student who went to community college first: GO TO COMMUNITY COLLEGE!!!!
When he hit the asian parents with the "being proud" line. INSTANT like.
what you mean being proud ? Getting into IIT is normal for indian parents standard anything less is like disgrace
@@HarshRajAlwaysfree for some even getting into iit but not the computer stream is a disgrace 😂😂
@Eleanor Clark I wish...
easily the best part of the video
@john Cenna lol how high are ya man?
There's a general rule in journalism that if the headline is a question the answer is almost always
'No.'
Which confirms that these comedy shows seem increasingly like the *real* journalism
Did we watch the same video? Because it kind of sounded like the answer was an emphatic, "YES, but maybe..."
To be fair, the answer was rather nuanced, and asked people to look into real academic statistics and for students not to get sold by the glamour of lazy pools and theme park show-offs. He spent half the episode pointing out the reality of NOT attending college.
Except in this one, because not getting a degree is far worse.
"To all my asian parents out there... This is being proud. I know its stupid"
Besttt
😂😂😭😢😂😂
Hit me hard
Dude, African parents also.
I think me getting in was the only time my dad ever showed he was proud of me, if he even is at all. Everything else was a complete downhill
No wonder me and my dad have a hard time getting along
I felt that 😂😭
protip for everyone: go study in norway. most study programmes are tuition-free, student housing is affordable, and it's absolutely beautiful there.
I’m assuming you have to be from Norway ?
I'm curious. Is all this applicable for international students?
@@TheRealVivia no you dont. i know many pakistani and indian students who go their to study as international students because education is free. plus compared to USA the norwegians are far more welcoming.
do we have to learn Norwegian? asking for a friend lol
@Bridget McBride Just apply to a programme that’s in English. And take some Norwegian classes when you get there.
Hasan:Starting to dress like uncles.
"*you either die a hero or, you live long enough to become the villain*".
1:31 Fцск that, a dude got fired for watching роги. That's what is really troublesome in this video.
Last time I checked Tesla they required college/university for anything above working on the assembly line...but do preach rich guy Elon 😐
If you're too good at something you don't need a degree. Now go try getting too good at something 🤔
@@upsxace ah if only that was true
@@upsxace definitely not universally true
Abdul Aden - That’s just their way of weeding out a large swath of people who aren’t serious, otherwise they’d be getting tens of thousands of applications for a routine job. If you’re serious, reliable, and can sell yourself as to why you’d make the best candidate and f*ing deliver (and not f** sh*t up) once you are hired - go ahead and apply anyway. I’ve landed many jobs where the ‘requirements’ listed on the application were largely flexible, negotiable, or irrelevant altogether. Put yourself on the other side’s shoes - if you’re working hard to honestly fill a much needed position, would you hire someone without a solid track record? The only other way is if that person has similar experience or can prove competence with spec projects they put together on their own time. You’re best bet without a degree is to work for a startup or a small mom & pop firm, get yourself some equivalent and transferable experience - and only THEN apply for Tesla. Otherwise, you’re competing with thousands of other grads from top named uni’s (especially in current time where folks lower their standards). Realize that’s instant gratification culture or entitlement if you want to work for the best of the best just starting out, but don’t actually offer the best of the best against a sea of other candidates. Just remember that sales is huge, you’ve got to STAND OUT. You got to sell it and be confident going in there that you’re a professional who gets sh*t done, because any doubts or insecurities you have about your qualifications or ability to perform will imprint on the person who’s job it is to hire you.
If all else fails, just know there’s lots of BS and politics involved - especially for an established firm with ‘professional’ HR whose sole mission is CYA. If the company has tons of red tape and HR, chances are that they are too big and well established at that point (meaning they have the pick of the litter and will make it harder and harder for new candidates to apply by raising the min. requirements), and I’d suggest looking elsewhere. Keep in mind, in the early stage startup days, Elon was probably screening every single candidate personally. Now he ain’t got time for that - he’s too busy launching rockets into outer space. His people do that for him, and chances are they make decisions out of efficiency (meaning they’re not going to read thousands of applications for an assembly line job) and CYA.
Usually the way to get rich without a degree is somehow to have a strong portfolio of innovations in a field to show. For example, say you’re an inventor who somehow got on the news for something to help the environment without ever going to college, jobs will open up freely. For that, some study hack sites like Scott H. Young, Thomas Frank and Cal Newport can help with the self study to make your own portfolio to show results. Not going to college and getting rich often involves a lot of independence in learning, without teacher’s guidance or due dates to help you discipline yourself. Though James Clear’s blog filled with research on discipline can help. Though this is mostly just the exception to the rule, honestly. Maybe the next best thing honestly is something from an online course, like on sites like Edx, Coursera or Udacity. It’s expensive but at most seeing degree fees around 500 dollars, it’s much less than real life college. Lots of Ivy League Universities giving off online courses, and while I think they’re overrated, the truth is people take you seriously if you associate with such colleges even in the slightest way possible. In my experience, usually fields with employers who are most open to online schooling are STEM fields and creative fields to some extent. STEM, because of course they’re the types who like to keep up to date with the latest science and technology. The arts, because a lot of them just tend to value the unconventional, considering the creative fields is considered an unconventional path to itself. Not sure about much else, it seems like other types of careers with online schooling would be a gamble.
“You wasted $150,000 on an education you coulda got for $1.50 in late fees at the public library.” ...Good Will Hunting !!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, because we're all boy geniuses that can solve MIT math mysteries while working as a janitor 🤦
@@alaynajordan8459 you can't solve MIT math, so, atleast janitor get to live their life without a possibility of getting arrested, asked the people who has around 150 grand of student debt to solve ANY MIT math, 99% percent of them wouldn't even come close to solve it, not everyone is an MIT grad, and even if they're 90% of them would already forgot 60% of what they teach there
It's the paper that says "this dude is totally good for it, maybe hire them for this", also, books only go so far when performing surgery on a live human, ya know?
@@estoyakula8525 They go through residency not just books.
I happen to enjoy them apples.
College and Healthcare are a business in the US. They are not there to help you. Their objective is to make money. They will charge the customer (patient /student) as much money as possible. It's messed up. They need to be regulated.
sigh i wish America's Society realized that but we might never change anything :/
The Canadian post secondary schooling system follows that same principle as well. Tuition and book costs grow each year and the level of education stagnates. Don't even get me started on the text book extortion, that is, releasing a new version of the same book every year with changed page numbers and marginal additions to content, so that students have to buy them again to keep up with in class
1 in6 dollars spent in the United States is spent in health care.
@@RWAsur That's horrifying to hear but do you have where you got that from?
@@terrrtaz i wish we werent drowned with greed in this so called utopia calling it a first world country is an understatement but hey at least u guys got healtcare but those taxes look a bit weird
Elon Musk: "There is no need to have a college degree at all."
SpaceX Job Page: Minimum Ph.D, Minimum Masters Degree, ...
I kid you not.
I'm sure astronauts would be very happy to climb on a rocket banged together by high school graduates.
Legit, Elon is so annoying like this, it's like when he smoked weed but his employees would probably have to go through drug tests.
All the graduates will not do a very critical job. A firefighter or a retail salesperson or a bank teller doesn't need a degree to do his job. And let's face it not more 20% of the workforce doesn't need a 4 year degree to what they do.
Hypocrites
I'm a graduate student and facing the following:
Job Requirements: *3/5/10 years of experience* in the field...
I've worked 2 years before my masters, and now that I have one is not enough...
As a PhD student who had been a TA for years I have two main reactions to this:
1) Thank you so much for drawing attention to the commodification of education and administrative bloat that form the rot at the centre of our university systems.
2) I think you sort of missed the point and failed to address the key issue explicitly. You frame "is it worth it" purely in terms of income, not in terms of what you actually learn, and how an educated populace is so integral to a working democracy (although you do allude to it at the end when asking whether funds are better put into the pool or the library). But the growth of anti-intellectualism we have seen over the past years, and the growing ignorance of the voting public speaks to a populace which is loosing faith in and is not receiving an education in the liberal arts (especially the humanities). We should not push people away from going to universities due to their excessive costs, we should move to make universities affordable and accessible to all so that more people will become educated and better our societies and the wisdom of the average voter.
Another TA here, just finishing my master's over the summer and starting the PhD in the fall (also in the humanities). 100% agree on all points. Sometimes I feel like half my job is getting my students to consider that maybe, just maybe, there is a halfway decent reason why they're being asked to take courses in the humanities as part of the core curriculum even if they're STEM or business majors. The idea that college is just resume-padding or a kind of financial investment with education as a secondary, almost optional component is pretty damaging.
I really liked this episode for the conversation about the money and where it goes, but I think it's also very much worth being conscious of the fact that college can bring immense social value if we can make it accessible to everyone and stop marketing it as a 'golden ticket.' When I was a freshman, my university's common read was Andrew Delbanco's book College, What it Was, Is, and Should Be. It's a text I still refer to any student who shows an iota of interest in thinking about what they're doing with 4-5 years of their lives beyond the paycheck they think they'll have access to at the end of it.
I like
Additionally, and especially because you mentioned the humanities, having jobs with incomes that justify and offset the cost of college will help as well. We need a fundamental shift in all of society, not just college
@CommentBoxParticipant2980 Interesting point of view, thanks for highlighting that angle as well👍🏽
I agree with you on the growing anti-intellectualism, I went to college for computer science and yeah came out with a degree and make a lot of money but I don't remember learning anything worth a damn in US History or Texas History, actually those courses are so whitewashed that the entire Vietnam war was like half a chapter in my textbook. This was a war that lasted well over 10 years and led to the death of 3 Million Vietnamese people, and we didn't learn shit about it aside from oh it was a mistake and America shouldn't have gotten involved. Our history textbooks in college were a fucking joke and they're even worse in High school. So until colleges can improve the curriculum and stop whitewashing history, I wouldn't recommend the humanities to anyone, at least not based on my limited experience.
“What is Ben going to do? Attack you with specific examples from the text?” I haven’t laughed that hard since B.C.- before COVID
That B.C bit is clever. Totally stealing this
I rewatched that bit at least 5 times (and shared it with 5 people), because I couldn't get enough of it. 😂 💀
The B.C. part was also 👌. It really does feel that way, ngl. Thinking of a new band name now (ACBC). xD
"The students not getting what they are paid for"
trueeeee..
The rest of the world: "Let's make higher education inexpensive or free, so the younger generation can carry us into the future."
America: "Let's bankrupt our future by extracting as much money as possible from as many people as possible for the benefit of like eighteen people. Lol look at all the silly poor people. They want an education. Ha!"
jodinsan SERIOUSLY couldn’t have said it better myself. US is all about greed and money
The realest comment here!
All the education you want is available free on the internet. Schooling, however, is going to cost you
No no no... Australia is doing it too!
for me 2k$ for university is too many for me :)(Canada)
Everytime he makes a joke, I expect laughter from the background.
Then I remember.
Same
Omg ikr
He made a joke? I cried this entire episode!
me too lol
no, my own laughter is in the background
Reminds me of when I went to college and really wanted to live in a dorm. I looked at them and it was insane prices, something that my family could not possibly afford. They're priced higher than the houses and apartments for rent in the area. For me that was a shocking realization that my university is catering to the rich and trying to make money instead of house students.
Meanwhile in Europe where public Universities are basically free: *enthusiastic coffin dance*
Coin they don’t need an army in every country but America does.
@@youisstupid2586 neither the USA, that is a choice or the consequences of previous choices.
It reminds me the political speech dual between Obama and McCain during his first campaign: the sentence about horse and bayonet hit McCain hard, but minutes before Obama casually said that the USA spend more for military than the next top 10 military.
If you need that everyone else united barely match your power, you should seriously consider why the rest of the world may see the ultimate supervillain in you...
What about in England? We got fucked over here
@@youisstupid2586 > they don’t need an army in every country but America does.
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Had you been even at school, you'd know that what you just said has nothing to do with colleges and their standards. By the way, Greece has the largest percentage of military spending in EU, but it *still* has tuition free colleges *and* an actual healthcare system. So, what is your next silly excuse? :D
I’ve been to the university in France. The education is not good.
Graduated students in europe are like: "WTF?"
Why
I think working in academia is not easy anywhere but in Europe I'm sure it looks much better. We don't have a lazy river tho
Here in Mexico, we pay 25 mexican cents (like a US 1c) a year for tuition. But once you try to become a professor, you start in a program as a kind of assistant with a salary of 70 monthly dollars (but with medical care). After that, you need masters or PhD to fight for a place as an adjutant earning like a hundred per month with little to no chance of EVER getting a tenure (or until someone dies of old age)...
Still a bad situation, but at least we don't spend in lazy rivers
not the english ones mate
@@AmisThysia They make a lot of money, It does rly depend on the place though, there are many universities that try and keep it small scale to keep the overall quality of education high.
That's the most Indian shirt i've ever seen on any man.
It's objectively true
Yeah man
what shirt /polo is that called
Lol
Lavde tu idhar bhi ?
Being penalized for not going to college is even worse when you realize that only ~33% of Americans actually go to college. That’s a minority even though it’s everyone in some places.
Trade schools and vocational training should be given more importance.
Here in the west coast of the states the MINIMUM of trade school is $25,000 for attending a 6-8 straight months with MAYBE 3 days of either tardy or sick days...then to even get the license of whatever you are trying to get is another $370 minimum. Books are $50 used, $100+ new. Just remember they DO NOT REFUND ANYTHING
@@shirefernandez7682 still cheaper than go and enjoy that lazy river for 4 to 5 times as much.
sounds like what happened in medicine. Too many resources spent on administration and not enough on patient care. very sad. Students being hurt by this.
Yas! Way too top heavy!
@@Rhuind exactly. I am sure the school could run without all that extra weight
Public K-12 is same way, lots of 6 figure administrators and then underpaid, overworked teachers. Same with fire and police actually, top 100 or so public employee salaries are police/fire management in Chicago.
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Eric Bassett I learned that an overwhelming majority of my highschool teachers work 2, sometimes 3 jobs to get by and provide for their family. Probably the saddest thing I've ever learned in school
@@lotsofuwuenergy3983 That's sad 😢
Hasan: “Go here, or die”
Colleges IRL: “yr feeling sad? :(((( our therapists are booked up the next 6 months but I hear the yoga club is looking for new members !! in the meantime, go ahead and make sure all assignments are turned in on time or else.”
Our *therapist. Sorry, we had to lay off most of them to pay the third provost.
Your assignments are more important.
oof very relatable
unfortunate last name :/
JustButton too real
Damn
My husband was a teacher assistant while getting his PhD in electrical engineering. There underpaid, work over 40 hours, and with him being an international student he couldn’t get another job.
This is probably one of the major factors that universities have in searching/accepting international students. They have them by the balls. I taught two 5-credit classes per semester when I was a TA for a similar stipend mentioned here. Just to give context, one of my peers was a stripper and she was able to buy a house--during grad school! Who is the real 2-cent prostitute...
@@jenplinguist Hey bro... I don't know if you could take the time out to answer this but I would really appreciate if you did...
I am from Nepal (a country close and quite similar to India in terms of education). My highschool had just been over when this pandemic started and my final exams are postponed. So yeah... I do have quite a bit of time on my hands now but I have been preparing real hard for the exams. Well, I used to be adamant about going to the United States after this exam itself, complete Bachelor's and even PHD later on and my future plans were to.. you know...settle down there itself for the rest of my life. But this pandemic really has got me questioning things. What do you suggest man? Should I stay in my own country or go to the US after this pandemic is over?
@@manshuvkafle6392 US may be a first world but its a shithole as the pandemic very much highlighted. Some of the best countries in the world are New Zealand, Switzerland, Denmark, Finland and Sweden. Consider going there instead.
@@manshuvkafle6392 Come to Europe. You won't make as much money as in the United States but education is way cheaper and you can have a decent quality of life, free health care and most countries have better government assistance for immigrants than the United States does. No place is going to be 100 percent perfect, of course.
@@manshuvkafle6392 Come to Germany! I left America a long time ago and Europe is loads better. No worrying if you will become bankrupt if your health is bad, amazing tap water and affordable education.
Andrew yang said it best" the price of tuition has gone up drastically but the capability and skill from a college graduate is little bit about the same. "
BULL FUCKEN SHIT! Its a DAM CATCH 22
The president at my school had to step down because he was making 600k a year and people were pissed lol
Imagine someone paid to help students learn and grow to get a job, getting paid that much. All while the ones who do the actual teaching get paid 1 percent of that...truly awful system
The football coach and the president at my school make that and no one is complaining. Of course adjuncts, who do most of the teaching, are paid poverty level wages and no health insurance.
@@sandran9340 well, say something damn it!
@@nihilisticbarbie I don't think it's that simple. You're still a student there, at the mercy of the system, while paying hundreds in fees.
May not be relatable as I'm talking about my experience with 'top' universities at the other side of the world.
Bruh the president of your school made more than the president of the united states
How is college almost free in Europe and especially Germany, while it’s almost impossible to get in America? In America, you have to fill out fafsa forms and scholarship applications to get a little out of student debt (which is among the most pernicious debt). One option is to go to community college for two years and then state school, but CCs don’t have the same resources or research opportunities that big institutions have . We need better options in the wealthiest country in the world.
Easy: we live in a cooperate oligarchy where our rulers want nothing more than to keep us dumb and subservient. So they lobby our congresses to strip funding from education and reduce regulation. Then the oilgarchs are free to put their stooges and allies in administrative positions where they sit on their asses while getting paid millions of dollars and sweep up scandals to protect their predators.
It's sort of like how they put those rings around a cormorant's neck...
we also have free universities in argentina, and the university of buenos aires is the best in latin america, so uknow if a "third world country" can do it why not the US
College isn't hard to get in America, but getting a quality education and getting out of debt is the hard part. You live in a country where college is free, take a major that doesn't quite pan out, you can go back and still be relatively debt free. In America, if you take the wrong major and don't get a decent job, going back to college means either more debt, or being stuck in under paying jobs.
@@hypothalapotamus5293, beautiful simile.
“... college is ramen noodles and a few pregnancy scares” why did I relate to this so much... yikes
💯
My school paid 10 million to be endorsed by a popular sports team. The fuckery.
@@BB-ty6iy what school?
Yikers
Me: not even in college and sweating about the costs.
Never went. Own a successful biz. Life is really good for me compared to most folks. So relax!
Jk I'm lucky as fuck. Good luck to you too!
Hahahaha, please write something here as well
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same my dude
Go to trade school man, you'll earn 6 figures unionized
@@zergenzerg6853 depending on the field
Imagine being so bad with money, that you can't keep your doors open even after receiving billions of dollars in endowments, never mind the high tuition. If these institutions are going to be this financially predatory/stupid, then maybe it's a good thing that they go the way of Lehman Brothers.
Well, universities weren’t designed to be for profit (maybe some private ones were), so it is no wonder they are shit businesses.
No being financially responsible is on the kids paying them and the teachers not them, they are too big to fail they need help.
They arent bad at money, just greedy
@@labadaba5088 And how much is a "certain amount" of 1.5 Billion dollars in yearly endowments(and that's on the lower end of some colleges). Even a small percentage would be substantial. Add that to the tuition fleecing, and government grants and these institutions STILL have a lot of explaining to do about why they're suddenly so strapped for cash. Ultimately, THEY are being financially irresponsible with their own business.
@@ethanlopez9069 They can't be both?
During my master degree, I was a teaching assistant and unfortunately for me, I was better at teaching than the professor according to the student so the professor made me teach half the time and 3 days before the final exam called me to say she didn't make the final exam and told me to do it. I had to put 2 all-nighters to get it done to be sure the student would understand the question correctly and not fail miserably. I hated the professor for doing that.
Daniel Robillard You should have told that professor to eat shit
Omg that sucks!!! I'm so sorry!
Dude... shoulda just made it super-simple so everyone with a pulse would pass... "Oh, you wanted the exam to be HARD? Well, I guess you should've handled it yourself, then!"
@@ernestscribbler2294 why does your professor sound my mine 😁😁. We had a professor who came to class 2x a semester and those times he deigned to grace us with his presence, he would talk about his life in a brag-gy manner. "I've travelled to this country. I've seen this. Have you been to this country? Oh no, you should travel more". Yeah, most of us can barely afford tuition and rent to live miles from home but we will travel to china to see their landmarks cos our absentee professor shames us for not seeing enough of the world.
I just don't get how I can justify it to myself to go here for another 3.25 years (half way through second semester) when the classes are so slow and I can find all the information on my own (computer science student) much faster than the material is being taught. This on top of sitting here with my class asking the most brain dead questions all day. Some of my friends have dropped out for self study and are loving it whereas I can either have a 4 year aneurysm or have no support at all.
People think I’m being overdramatic when I say rich people ruin everything, but rich people literally ruin everything.
❤😆❤
I'm just so overdosed with reality I can't even laugh at any of Hasan's attempts of cracking a joke
You got a much bigger shot using that tuition money on starting a business
Find an idea
@@hamz4977 hahahaha 😁 it's a dilemma
Would like to see your opinion on this
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@@hamz4977 dude he literally talked about why going to colleges make you die less
Am re-watching Parks and Recreation. Some of it is too real, now...
because it isn't funny
"Being proud" lmao, that was funny as heck. When I got accepted into a very top tier college, my parents were like..."That's what you are supposed to do...what do you want, a cookie?" I'm not of Asian origin.
You should have said "Yes I want a cookie in Fact I want two Cookies " 😅
Ayaad H.M right lol!!
I feel ya,, I'm asian and the most my parents said after i shared any of my academic good news was "okay, good." usually, they don't even have a reaction
Saaaame. I'm not Asian, either, but no one in my family ever celebrated an academic accomplishment. You don't receive an award for an A+; you receive a punishment for a B. When I got into grad school, everyone asked how I planned to celebrate -- to celebrate just getting in?! Even now, they're like, "What, you expect a living wage in exchange for your education and labor? You're so entitled, you Phi Beta Kappa honoree!"
Same! 😏
I'm a teacher and I am leaving teaching at the university level after 17 years of teaching. Universities are a business and all I heard was we need more students which leads to more revenue. Universities selling their souls to corporations
My Discrete Math professor left after the Spring Semester and he has been teaching around as many years as you have. He told me he left because of administrative headaches and he took a software engineering job at corporate company near me. Sad to see, but I think this is the trend as time goes on depending upon how long the pandemic lasts along with its restrictions.
What state do you live in? I live in New York state & we have a very well funded & cheap SUNY system. Stony Brook University for example is only about $8,000 an academic year & it's among the world's top universities. & It's a public/state owned university.
Hugh Le I work at a community college and I hear the same thing. I've been teaching for 10 years, but I'm ready to be done.
@@Lionfish5656 they are cutting funding now. Expect suny and cuny to be more expensive very soon
It's good to hear a 1st person testimonial but the failing starts as early as elementary schools. I've worked for them and I used to hear teachers all the time "let's focus on the kids who want to learn, or at least the parents who have money because lord knows they are our biggest donors. Poor kids have 0 chance, not even the smart ones. Mayne like 1 percent of them will be lucky enough to learn anything here and MAYBE go to college. Hahah, but most of them will be in debt anyways. It doesn't matter, I cant stand most of these kids (under breath) little shitheads, hhahaha." Ugj, it was so gross the way some of these teachers talked about students. And now being a mother I cam attest to the fact principals are not much better. They discriminate against kids because they assume the parents are uneducated because of their income level and race. The principal called my son a problem child and said I was lucky the teacher liked him. My son never even got into trouble except what is normal for a rambunctious boy of 6 in kinder. It's like the US is failing students on all levels unless they are rich. And then people act like "why are American so uneducated!?" Well its obvious why, it's like our government and schools and even some administrators and teachers are purposely trying to undermine our students, unless their parents are loaded.
Community colleges, trade schools and vocational schools need to be promoted to their local high schools more aggressively. We do not want our future leaders to be burdened by thousands of dollars of debt. The burden of never-ending debt on a person's health is so detrimental.
I HAVE A feeling Hasan and John have signed a deal so that they can upload their episodes on the same day till the pandemic ends. INFORMATIONAL ENTERTAINMENT AT ITS FINEST!!
I'm loving it.
who's john ?
@@SuperSingh john oliver
@@normalperson1130 so much happiness
Best part of Monday nowadays 😂
"Is college still worth it?"
only if it's taught by Hasan patriot-act style, on zoom
I pay 500max€ a term while living at my parents, no less than the physics faculty with their( linear) particle accelerator access... including public transport.
Cool
maybe not zoom lol
@@fionafiona1146 No need to flex , come on
Still? Its never been worth to do anything that gives you a lifelong debt. Its your own fault for being stupid enough to fall for it
Meanwhile in countries where tuition is free: more students enroll when the economy is bad, to live on student loans and not be unemployed, and when the economy improves we have people with degrees ready to work.
Chandan Sinha Germany, Sweden, Norway, and Finland to name a few.
@@Quickturealeyes white countries? come on...
@@blackpillsamsam6940 Yeah there's no immigrants in Europe, only white people. It's not like a few years back there so many immigrants came that it led to a crisis...
@@blackpillsamsam6940 what ?? How is this your answer. The guy chose those countries certainly because he knows it happened there meaning high chance he is from one of them. Would you prefer he add another country without knowing anything about it just to add a "black country" (to oppose your "white country") to the list. If you know of this kind of things happening in other countries tell us and you will have added usefully to the conversation.
@Chandan Sinha College is also free in Saudi Arabia if you're a citizen
Trade School: jobs starting at 50k+, option to start own business, easily make 100k+ after a few years of experience
Trade School: am I a joke to you?!
As someone who is genuinely interested in a college education in the US, this makes me really reconsider and look at my local options more deeply.
Thanks Hasan
Run. Run my friend. Don’t let the debt catch you.
Try Germany maybe, that country values its education very much.
Dont come here it's not worth it.
Best of luck to you in your decision!
Try Singapore! 🥰
I AM SO HYPED FOR THIS EPISODE
edit: just watched the episode- I am now depressed. Going back to bed to rethink my college and career choices.
Ditto. Hope you hold up well whereever you are
go to Germany 😬
"To all my asian parents watching at home, the thing those parents were doing is something called being proud"
😂 this totally killed me
My heart hurts watching this, and I'm not even American and my college education was free
S.O.S from America ;_;
Then you are one of the lucky ones. Where do you reside?
As a German student I can't imagine how stressful studying in the US has to be, if your parents can't afford these fees.
Even if they can afford it, wasn't there something about independence and this country? 🤔 Comming from a broken family this also seems importent to me.
I feel very lucky that I don't have to pay fees at my university and additionaly receive money from the state for studying. Through this i can fully concentrate on my studies 🙏🏻
I hope in the futur this will change for you too ❤️
We Germans are lucky 🇩🇪
You guys have it lucky. As a US College student, I really hate our college system here. :I
We get loans from the government that need to be paid back starting as soon as we leave college. Its great if your parents can pay for your college but most parents can't affor 70k a year for private colleges and many can't afford the 20-30k a year for state colleges. The loan system is broken because these loans are guaranteed by the government to be paid to the colleges so the colleges charge whatever they would like. Think about it at 70k a year before room and board the kid can be looking at 100k a year is student loans by the time they finish 4 years they are $400K + in debt and haven't even earned a single penny. Those that are skilled and talented enough to get a good job this amount can be paid off over 15-20 years those who are average will suffer for the rest of their lives.
This is about those who choose liberal arts or something like that they have 400k in debt but how many are successful with that degree 2%? The system needs to change so that people can go to school but they choose something they are proficient at and something that can provide them a good future. The government should not be involved in this they need to take a step back or pay for all of it. For some reason they like to be right in the middle but not do any type of work. They even farm out the work to collect the student loans.
If the government weren't involved people would have to take private loans and private loans aren't guaranteed so the bank would have a say and also because of this people wouldn't be throwing money at these schools thus making it so that they can't charge whatever they want to charge.
If the government fully funded everything they would fight to keep the costs down from these schools and make sure that they weren't over charging.
Right now they are just doing the worst thing possible. Same thing with healthcare.
Just wait till you hear about our healthcare system 😂
I hear you. Yet, German universities are among the world's best ranked & they have seen their rankings improve since the German gov't & the EU improved more R&D money. Think of all the new innovations, new immigrants, etc. that Germany is getting w/their attractive college system that we in the US are going to be losing out on.
on corrupt administrators: there was somebody high up at my college that straight up got caught embezzling money from the science departments, AND they found credit card statements saying that she allegedly spent some of the money at hobby lobby...
all this while our chemistry labs have peeling paint, cracked glassware, & windows xp computers
To be fair, one reason we (I'm a Chem Prof) still have WinXP is that some instruments software doesn't run (or needs a serial port or specialized card that no longer has a port on modern computers...) - and the option is to use a $45k instrument that works great but has an old OS... or buy a new, now $55k instrument to replace it. I have a 1983 laser in my lab, and a WinXP computer... and hope that I never have to replace them because they have 40 more years of life ignoring software.
@@kevinwdavies Long as it works... By some point we've decided to bite the bullet and renew most of that hardware from 20 years ago, it's hard to roll in new features if they're needed otherwise...
One of my professors was indicted on embezzlement.
@@kevinwdavies i actually never considered that!! that makes a lot more sense than what i assumed lmfao
Reminded me of the movie "Bad Education"
Applying for a job after college: We need 10+ years of experience and it only pays $25.00 an hour haha
It's true of all industries as well. You're lucky if you can find a job that allows for 2-3 years of experience. Then you can try and see what you can do with your resume.
$25 an hour? Try minimum wage at best.
It will be less than $25 an hour. It will also be a gig job.
that is just their ideal candidate. apply anyway.
Only? Damn. I guess this is partially why I don't go back to college, but, that seems like a lot to me lol. I went to college for a year and could not go back. I am impoverished and partially disabled as of 2013, can't really go back and my highest paying job in my local area gave me about $6.00/hour after wage garnishment and taxes. It was grueling and I haven't worked since. I've become a hermit. I'd kill for $25/hr.
This is why I will never donate even 1 cent of my hard earn money back to the schools I went. Even they keep calling me for money.
I agree. If you are going to donate, donate to a scholarship fund or, better yet, directly support a student.
Yeah it's a scam. They keep that money for their personal use. They do not reinvest into the school, unless its a serious concern with the government
I know they have so much money saved up. Why are they begging ex students for money
Hasan has a kid, starts sounding like his dad.
His dad is probably laughing his head off right now 🤣
@ The issue with online courses is:
1. How do you accredit any merit to online courses?
-- What's stopping someone from clicking play, going to another room, and playing video games all day, and coming back to claim that they completed the course.
2. A lot of online courses IMO are trash:
-- Especially programming/CS one's because it all ends up leading to students following along and copying code verbatim, Monkey see monkey do.
-- And then calling it a day, rather than actually spending 20 minutes after each lesson reflecting on what they have learned, and then testing out how to apply their skills in other use cases or projects, try to add new features and extend the principle taught/introduced in the lesson.
Like they don't try to tweak or break things and learn to think for themselves and look up documentation. Instead, they are given a guide that is holding their hand, but in reality, no one is holding your hand, you have to learn to figure things out for yourself. Critical thinking and problem-solving are a must. However, most students don't understand this so they just follow along and then they end up thinking they are more proficient in [insert programming language] than they actually are. So when they try getting jobs as self-taught programmers they get screwed. I think coding boot camps have made this better since there are in-person and interactive learning assignments but it's still far from perfect.
3. There are a lot of sketchy online boot camps and Udemy courses.
4. A certificate is not the same thing as a degree from an accredited academic institution. Sorry but that's the reality until we can get institutions that can offer online courses with an equal level of accreditation, online courses are great for learning things, but not the end all be all for career development.
@@rehmanarshad1848 after you learn try and get certifications if you can. Employers will accept those
@@ashleym6765 well I'm getting certifications while also pursuing my degree in CS, but I've also been looking for internships while actively engaged in research opportunities on campus because that way I learn to apply my skills, gain mentors, and make a larger network of connections to potential employers. But I still feel like I need to contribute to open source projects, and do tons of leetcode problems before I can be industry ready.
@ i don`t know how to tell you this but a lot of companies that aren`t cutting edge like google,microsoft,etc. have the minimum requirement of a bachelors degree so even if you have double the skills and expirience of a degree holder your resume is automatically denied due to not meeting required minimum conditions
I wanna give a shout out to the graphics team. I love the background graphics that these videos have and the sound effects. As someone who just started learning about UX development, I have so much appreciation for these unsung heroes.
Yes, the link between capitalism and the college crisis is exactly that clear.
Clear as a lazy river
And then the causes of the socialist revolution 100 ys ago become more obvious. American capitalism during USSR time was restrained and balanced by the threat of socialism. Now that threat is gone, capitalism is showing its true face.
@@Muzikrazy213 this is depressing but funny at the same time😂😂😪
No its not clear because public university is govt ran. All these college budgets and such had to be approved by state governors. Such a silly comment
Collin Stinson you forget that the state is a capitalist institution
Run by capitalists for capitalists
It's soul wrenching to see what the education system throughout the world has succumbed to.
Not throughtout the world only in america
Well if we talk, for example, about college graduates unemployment its also a big issue in developing world
Me: "Wow this is messed up, why doesn't the Secretary of Educa-"
...oh
lol
I don’t get it
@@solarflare3382 research her, betsy devos, it'll all make sense
@@misslovejoy Ah yes, Betsy DeVos, the sentient bag of hairspray fumes.
This is how the Roman Empire fell: corruption from within.
My dad used to talk about the fall of the Roman Empire when I was a kid. I'm seeing a lot of parallels.
Empire is doomed from the start, while the fall of democracy start an empire.
US:
[chuckles] I'm in danger
Okay but who's Attila then?
That is how every single empires fell.
The joke about a kid confused, when he sees a teacher outside the school, is very real.
I have students, who see me at the store, and look both shocked amd confused... And I teach high school.
I once saw my teacher at the movies. I then panicked and ran away.
@@aisha-be8sq lmao, something i would do
Mr. Patterson? What are you doing on.. TH-cam?
withayse 😂😂😂👍🏻
Easily the best “Is college worth it” piece I’ve ever seen. The cost of NOT going to college is the real detriment. Community college is the way to go in my opinion. No reason to pay absurd tuition for the first 2 years when you end up with the same paper at the end of it all.
yup, because I took AP classes and did dual enrollment, I found out that I only need to get one or two semesters to get my Associates and go to a university.
That's all bullshit. I am a heavy duty mechanic and my wife is a finance officer with a diploma. We make over $150,000 a year and live very comfortably. We work Monday to Friday 9 to 5 jobs. I'm 39, have a pension, investments in mutual funds and zero debt. I live in a $400,000 house, which I intend to pay off in only 10 years, and both of us never went to university.
The propaganda telling people they need to go to university is just bullshit. Go to a trade school or community college. Cheaper and you will probably come away smarter than the average university student. Plus you won't have hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt.
This show needs to have a comment section on Netflix. I watched it there and came here for the discussion
"Now we think of TAs as slightly hornier professors."
As a graduate assistant, I feel personally attacked.
Well yeah, only slightly? wtf
As a former TA he is 100% correct lol.
Well I met my fiancé while he was a TA.
Well he’s not wrong. Don’t think you have any reason to feel attacked
I am a TA, and when you have a ton of gorgeous students throwing themselves at you or dressing in short skirts or coming to your office letting you know that they will do "anything" to pass... After awhile it does start having an affect on your libido... especially if several of these students look like someone you would date in a heartbeat... I think I need to leave TA work soon... Before I finally meet my kryptonite.
In times likes this, I'm happy to be French, because college is free. Don't give up though
I am also happy I'm not American. I've been to three universities in three countries and I do not have any student loans.
@@Boahemaa That's called being rich
Sage of 6 paths no, it's called living in a country that actually cares about it's people
How do they build colleges and hire teachers that don't get paid, if buildings are paid for and teachers are paid it is not free the money had to come from somewhere. Money does not just magically appear.
@@schmiselchen YESS honestly I'm from hawaii (american) and It costs so much money smh- like education should be free-
I miss this show so much. Why the hell did Netflix cancel it?
Watch
SAUDI & CHINA PATRIOT ACT
& then you will know why.
Ok, wait. Give you a little tidbit....
ALL NETWORKS ARE RULED by the same family.
Hasan did say in this episode that is he mysteriously vanish, you know what happened #whatisaprovostanyway?
Elon "I came from an already wealthy family, but you don't need a college degree; even though I ask for them in order for you to work for my company" Musk.
It's true, you don't need a degree to do what he does: smoke lots of great weed, come up with big ideas, get other smart people (with college degrees) to build them then take credit for said ideas at lavish presentations.
His family owns a freaking emerald mines in Africa and minted money exploiting locals. His whole spiel about being in debt is a bunch of baloney, you don't need a degree to succeed if you're already loaded.
I hate how schooling has become so inaccessible that people are debating whether or not they should enrich their knowledge with higher education; this is part of a system that keeps the population uneducated/more easily controllable.
I think part of the reason why people debate or question whether schooling is worth it because they spend so much focus on creating compliant citizens that are required to obediently appease a reputable status quo in order to become the best employee, or at least, a person that fits a one-size-fits all formula of prosperity. Countless people who have spent so much time in schooling have become very much the easily controllable people you speak of because everyone is conditioned since day one that enriching one's knowledge of higher education is exclusively associated with schooling or a secluded institution, especially in grade school where adherence to preset expectations is highly stressed. You fear you're reputation in life in order to evade being at the receiving end of negative judgement while furthering you're knowledge is the cover story because it's more about credibility instead of learning. The problem isn't debating whether or not one should further their knowledge in higher education but rather our monolithic cut and dry standardization of how we judge or gauge education in the first place. While I agree that knowledge is a crucial key to education , schooling tends to obsess itself with the concerns of it's own righteous theoretical affairs of knowledge but neglects to encompass more of the autonomous creativity of diverse applications regarding said knowledge because much of our experiences in education tend to be rigidly axiomatic.
@@evanurena8868 For sheep-minded people, this is the case; schooling will suck the free thought out of you. As someone who has been through schooling, I don't feel that "school" can be singularly defined as a system to create factory-made humans to be a cog in the machine. Contrary, countless teachers and University experiences have changed my life and inspired me to utilize my creativity to reach greater heights, allowing me to contribute to society in a more optimal way. This isn't just about credibility, but also about EXPERIENCE. There is factory-grooming done in grade school, but for people willing to utilize education more intentionally through programs and functions, it's such an enriching experience that helps you QUESTION the status quo. The issue isn't higher education, the issue is the way education is being institutionalized by higher boards and government.
13:54 reminded so much of that John Mulaney bit in Kid Gorgeous. “If you’re an adult still giving money to your college, college is a $120,000 hooker and you are an idiot who fell in love with her.”
"GIVE US SOME MONEY! AS A GIFT! WE WANT A GIFT! But only if it's MONEY!"
aka Richard Gere
"what is college? Stop going until we figure it out." - John Mulaney. The opening quote to my junior year poli Sci essay on the student debt crisis, bloated amenities and administrations, and the havoc employers are wreaking on the economy by requiring college degrees for grunt work jobs
“ Basically , Harvard Endowment is bigger than the countries destroyed by its Alumni ( Henry Kissinger ) “
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻💯💯💯Killed it dude !!!
Make's me laugh seeing Alon Musk telling that there's no need for college degree when they require one for jobs on his company, even for software developer positions. just look on linkedin.
He was just trying to "sound cool" there. Or he was just giving his take on college in general. Nobody in his line of work can really downplay a dedicated education.
@UtahButImTaller legit lol
@UtahButImTaller then he should've said that. Because words mean thing when you use them in conjunction with others.
@@cooldrop02 He did if you watch the entire video instead of an out of context soundbite that deliberately cut out that part of the interview
@UtahButImTallerBro, that guy went to Queen's University for his undergrad, transferred to the University of Pennsylvania to graduate in economics and physics and dropped out of school when he was planning to do his PhD at Stanford. Isn't that skewed advice coming from someone who got the benefits of attending an Ivy League school but advises others not to in the hopes of the chances that they become an entrepreneur? He didn't practice what he preaches.
“To all my Asian parents out there,It’s called being PROUD!”-HASAN MINAJ 2020
🙄lol
How many parents does an Asian have
Right Jake Peralta...
"...I know. It's stupid."
He meant all asian parents. Oh God!
Btw nine nine...
I was an adjunct instructor before the pandemic. He doesn't mention that you have to fight for your classes. You can create a class, create the curriculum, spend time recruiting students, and then the next semester, if a full time tenured/tenure track instructor wants the class, they can just tell the dean and they get it.
Also, in the pandemic, the first classes to get cut were those taught by adjunct instructors.
Vince Gonzalez exactly
And how even if there are enough classes available for an adjunct or part-time instructor to teach so they can be considered eligible for benefits, universities would still prefer to hire a SECOND PERSON part-time, even if it's just for a single course, rather than let the original employee have health insurance lmao. Horrible.
As a retired tenured college professor (40 yrs.), I can tell you that college is still a good idea. But it doesn’t have to be the huge debt burden it’s made out to be. How to avoid the debt? 1. Forget the Ivy League schools unless daddy is rich enough to have a building, or at least a physics lab, named after him. 2. The most economical way to start college is when you’re in high school. Many states will allow high school students take college courses for free. Families pay the tuition if the students don’t pass. I know students who graduated with an A.S. Degree (community college) before they graduated from high school. They enter college as a junior or late sophomore. 3. Get a general two year degree at a community college then transfer to a university. Freshman and sophomore course requirements are pretty much the same but are much less costly at community colleges. Community colleges aren’t supporting huge endowments or sports. At a community college you will have smaller class sizes and direct access to the professors. When I was a freshman at Ohio State U. my smallest class was 200 people (not counting my Phys. Ed. class at 80) and I didn’t talk to professors; I talked to their graduate assistants. 4. Don’t take six years to get a four year degree. Too many students drop a course the moment it gets challenging, or if the professor isn’t entertaining, or if the class is scheduled before noon. After the first day of class, you don’t get a tuition refund. Students can waste thousands of dollars by dropping classes instead of completing them. 5.Texts are expensive but they are available in different formats: regular hard-bound book, paperback, online Kindle-type format. You will always lose money selling books back. Buy either cheaper used books or online books for non-major course texts you’d probably sell at the end of the semester). Buy hard-bound or paperback books for major courses and keep them. They will be useful when taking upper-level courses in your major. There are many online sites that buy and sell texts. Make sure you get the correct edition of a text. The required edition should be on the course syllabus. 6. If you are smart, motivated and determined, take the maximum number of credits allowed with full-time tuition. At my college, 15 credits are full time but students can take up to 20 credits for the same cost.
Adjunct/part-time instructors are overworked and underpaid. However, they are not expected to do research, publish or participate on committees.
You are so right, thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I'm in community college right now, and I wish my high school offered more dual credit courses when I was there. Unfortunately, my high school didn't start offering them until I was starting my senior year of high school.
Solid tips. Can confirm most of these are true. Community college could be one of your most worthwhile investments if you’re aiming for college.
Dorm apartment shower: “...this shower has bluetooth!”
My mind: “meanwhile there’s a homeless family eating out the garbage around the back of the apartment building.”
Oh like in Brazil where a one inch fence separates the wealthy from the slums.
Did you go to the university of Arizona? I did. Me and a roommate of mine literally had to do that. We had no food for days and had to eat trash food. Luckily someone had thrown a bag of McDonald's on the floor and we found it biking around. We opened it and it had two warm apple pies. That was our food for the day. We had just come from class and had no food to eat and no money to buy food. We both applied for food stamps but got denied because we didnt have time to go to their interviews because we were full time students and had work study and no time to deal with that and ofc being between checks that played us part time less than min wage. We got lucky a few weeks later because I met my boyfriend and he was able to hook us up woth food stamps
Right! In the south too like maybe help the community post katrina? Many still have not recovered smh
And college students living in their cars because they cannot afford housing.
th-cam.com/video/ck-89phIXsM/w-d-xo.html
Eff their bluetooth!
honestly that's a very minor detail to focus on from this whole show. the rich are free to spend their money as they wish, i take no offense. they don't have a moral obligation to the poor. we need to talk focus on government action and change rather than pointing the finger at other classes
He didn't forget to close his porntab...
*HE BOOKMARKED IT*
Not sure why a professor watching porn has to be fired yet rapists at frat houses get schools to cover it up with a slap on the wrist. I rather have a professor jerk off at his home but not commit sexual assault and rape than frat boys who cannot take no as a no because that’s rape. Something is seriously wrong here with the puritanical firing of the professor. 😞
@@zainnee Agreed. We all watch porn. He isn't committing a crime.
Should he have been more subtle? Of course! But making this mistake should not have cost him his job.
Kick out the rapists and keep the masturbators!
@@zainnee Double standards. Academics are expected to be asexual, while frat houses are expected to prop up the party life. Also because of Elliot Rodgers, girls are still more afraid of incels than they are aggressive alpha males. Collegiate social status is also another factor. The fact that whether or not you have a girlfriend/boyfriend and get laid is tied to your social status and self-esteem, and considered a rite of passage/mark of maturity, is going to pressure people to want to seek out those opportunities and be protective of who they invite in their social circles. For most students, unless they take a specialized course on it, all they hear from authority figures regarding this topic is no tolerance, no tolerance, and no tolerance, as well as the long list of things that they will get punished for if they do it. Never any positive guidance on how to approach this aspect of their lives, and never any discussion on how to organize the community so that everyone's needs can be met and respected.
Fucking amateurs...🤣🤣
@@zainnee a professor watching porn of college students? Wayyyy to high a liability. If any female student speaks to him in his office alone even 1ce that's a problem. Scan say school was aware his fetish.. nah.. he has to be fired for the schools benefit. I'm sure parents and students would lobby against the school etc. Honestly with cancel culture they don't have a choice.
As someone who just virtually graduated from high school this was the perfect video for the times
That's so crazy! Smh
Your generation is the best, you deserve a better future than the one presented to you
"it's called being proud"
i know it's STUPID
LMAO XD
I’m a high school junior and my dad and I usually watch patriot act but when he saw this video he was like “nope focus on your studies”
School is a huge waste of your time and money. The real education starts when you've walked out of that demonic beast system.
thats the problem....we are forced to go to college right after graduating high school even though most students have no clue what they want to truly do. More than half of the professors just read stuff off of a powerpoint to you. The textbooks cost a lot of $$$, even though you could buy a way cheaper book somewhere else. College is a business....literally even graduate student is in debt
BB The solution to this is to stop giving out student loans. When the government started giving out student loans, college became affordable to more people, so the demand for college increased.
In response, colleges jacked up prices because people could afford to go with student loans.
If we stop giving out student loans, not as many people will be able to afford it, so demand will go down. In order for colleges to stay in business they will need to drop their prices.
This is guaranteed to work it’s basic economics.
Your father is right and dont expect the teachers to learn for you. A degree does not prove your education is valid, you do.
You can apply to German universities. Here there is no tuition (only about 40 dollars per semester for the library) even for international students and the university I work for teaches everything in English as well. You can save a lot of money and have a unique experience.
Community college is worth more than private and public college. They actually teach and cost is lower for the same product but sadly, these private and public college want to limit community college to 2 years degree only and limit Community college resources.
Especially worth it in a major city or large state. Our community college’s curriculum aligns with the state’s UC. Many students study for 2-3 years there and complete their final 1-2 years at the UC. The same teachers at the UC teach at the Community College, so same material, smaller bill. Not uncommon to have individuals transfer to an Ivy or ‘elite’ school for their MS. Let’s people have that ‘name’ on their plaque, if they really want it. Easier to get in as well.
All my AS units transferred to my BA when I finally went back to school. In and out in a year and a half, transferred again for my MBA when I later went back to complete that (though my job paid for the later two)
And good luck getting ALL your credits transferred from a CC.
Gabriel Murillo I did it, just have to do your research to see what programs are in place so that you don’t waste time and money on units that don’t transfer.
@@gabrielmurillo5073 If you go to a community college and then a university in the same state most of them have deals that they will accept all the credits. That's what I did in NY.
I think the first two years should be tacked onto high school or public and the next two years be like a community college by that I mean affordable.
Hasan, as a fellow UC Davis alumnus, I appreciate your work, especially since we both have political science degrees. At some point, could you and your team also do a piece on mental health services and the difficulties of attaining those services, especially among lower income classes and whether or not they are first-generation students? I feel that many students in those categories have a disadvantage in receiving mental health services due to factors such as forced leave of absences, difficulties coming back from one, fear from the probability of having any of that happen, and simply other barriers such as health insurance, paperwork and other obstructions once people find the courage to seek help, etc.
Otherwise, I hope for more seasons and continued success. 👍
OJpreuss he already did.
Recent college grad here (Purdue). Its crazy. I had a class where the school couldn't find a professor to teach the class so they hired a grad assistant to teach the class. At the end of the course she forgot to submit grades so we all got an incomplete for the course and had to wait for the grades to be amended.
Hasan: colleges are corporations
Me: a minority, 1st generation, senior in highschool starting to apply for college, that has been questioning if it's worth it to go to a 4 year 👁👄👁
Nope
Depending on where you are in the country, I highly recommend Community College. There are some really great ones, you get a good education and whether you want a 2-year degree or a 4-year, it's a good choice. 📚
Take a trade.
Go to a community college they better educate you and if you transfer it will make university alot easier. Trust me this is coming from a person who lives in California.
Yes. For as little as you can.
Like US could be the best country if it did these things:
1) Free quality education
2) Free quality healthcare
3) Humane immigration system
4) Decrease in Militarization
BLM
Never gonna happen..
Pretty sure the main reason other countries don't try and take us over/collect on our debt is because we have a disproportionately huge military. Also community college is very affordable; we ought to increase the minimum wage though.
Kaanrā Matt when you have to look at third world countries and dictatorship to make the US look good, something isn’t right...
@@kaanramatt37 I used to dream going to US or Canada...but after this Corona scare nope ... I think Kerala is better...we get free medical attention and free education here