Just look at him. That rude and sarcastic man in the first season (but still with a very hurtful past) and this sweet and loving man in season six. I just started re-watching the series mainly because I wandered what attracted me to Sawyer in the very beginning. And this scene describes this reason perfectly.
Sawyer may have been the one who evolved the most. He went from a renegade, self-loathing loner and scavenging hoarder to a leader who genuinely tried to look out for everyone and keep them safe while prioritizing his relationship with Juliet. I mean yeah....Jack evolved from a hard-nosed, stubborn, reactive man of science with a hero-complex to a patient, deferential, thoughtful man of faith, but Jack was always the save everyone type. Sawyer became the save them all type. He worked hard in S6 to get his friends to safety. It's exactly THAT quality in Sawyer that Smokey used to plant that bomb and try to kill them all.
There's an UNSPOKEN, "before you all (Jack, Hugo, Kate, Sayid) showed up" behind Sawyer's lament. When Sawyer begins pummeling Jack who was on his way to set off the hydrogen bomb at the future Swan hatch Site, he said to Jack, "I had a life here...what gives you the right to take all that away". You can tell it wasn't until Jack resolved to make so Oceanic never crashed, that Sawyer lost it. It meant that Sawyer would have never met Juliet, never have fallen in love with her, never lived a life of those 3 years with her. People tend to forget that Jack, Sawyer, Hurley, Kate, Sun & Jin, Sayid, John, Claire, et al were all together on the Island for ONLY 108 days. We don't know exactly how long Jack & Kate stayed together (long enough for them to be at the point of getting engaged, planning a wedding), Hugo wasn't with them he stayed in psychiatric care for a good chunk of the off Island time. Sayid was doing his own thing with Nadia until her death, and then became an international assassin for Ben. Sun went back to Korea and had Ji Yeon and became managing partner of Paik industries. Desmond was off living with Penny and having a kid with her. Contrast that with 3 years together for Miles, Jin, Juliet & Sawyer. Living and working together. When Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid came back...their return essentially dynamited Juliet & Sawyer's lives. Imagine how Kate feels hearing that Sawyer was going to ask Juliet to marry him. Remember, Jack proposed to Kate and she accepted and they were at least beginning to plan their wedding. So Kate know exactly HOW deeply Sawyer loved Juliet. She knows exactly what she (and the rest) did TO HIM (and Juliet). Sawyer's words about being destined to alone...the felt like a dagger through the heart for Kate. Maybe from the sting of losing THAT type of intimacy with Jack, realizing that this kind of relationship was NEVER in the cards for her and Sawyer, and knowing that she had a part in taking all that away from Sawyer.
@@victorpradha9946 The character of Kate was wonderful, clear and mature in the lowest season. I wished she would remain that way... but unfortunately the writer in the remaining seasons made her a degraded character who is nothing but selfish. Even in the last season, even though Sawyer changed for the better, he chose Juliet and told her that he loved Juliet more than once. She always pursued him without stopping, not caring about Jack, and left him in a temple. She went to Sawyer, even though he asked her not to follow him. She did so even though she saw him broken down by Juliet’s passing. She took advantage of his loneliness and asked A chance to try She becomes his again. Her interest in Jack ended. She despised Jack and went to Sawyer, even though Jack loved her madly, but she only loves Sawyer, and this is very provocative.
"I think some of us are meant to be alone." Can't get over the depth of that statement. It's a possible truth that society too often refuses to consider. If you've been around long enough to watch all of your attempts to not be alone fail, you can't help but start to believe it. Great writing and acting, Sawyer's best scene imo.
Ur comment has a lot of depth aswell. I think society and us dont want to believe it because it so sad lonely scary and hopeless especially because it's true
But in the end, Sawyer didn’t end up alone. He had his friends. “Not being alone” doesn’t always mean having a romantic partner. It means just having a support system of any type. Plus they’re reunited for eternity in the afterlife, so there’s that as well 🤍
Matt Smolek I would also like to add Charlie's list. It was in multiple scenes, but when he got to number 1 and it was "the night I met you (claire)" I just always loose it when I watch that. The whole episode was just beautiful.
I would have to go with the reunion scene of Sawyer & Juliet. I can’t understand why people dislike the finale when all these people who’d been through hell were reunited with the one person they loved most in their lives after they lost them.
It is heartbreaking to see how much he loved Juliet. She is the only one he really wanted to start a family with. She was the one for him. With Kate, he did love her, but I can't help but feel like it was always a physical attraction more than anything. I gotta say, Josh Holloway's acting in all these scenes mourning Juliet, is just so on point. I can feel Sawyer's pain.
Agreed, excepting for the fact that I think the reason him and Kate didn't work out is because they were too similar. Kate called to the part of Sawyer that was vengeful and cunning and damaged by life, since she has exactly the same characteristics.He loved her for that because I think it was like somebody finally understood him and could match him in intelligence. But those same qualities that drew him to Kate also pushed him away from her, because they didn't encourage him to be any better than he was. With Kate, he was always stuck being the criminal in contrast to Jack's goodness. With Juliet, he found a woman who was also cunning and smart(as all the ladies Sawyer falls in love with are), but she also respected him and saw the goodness in him. She stood by his side when his friends died and gave him empathy, not pity. She thought he was worth staying on the Island for. She CHOSE him, which is important because it's something Kate would never do. Kate's a wonderful character, but she's like Jack in the sense that she's going to do what has to be done. She's not going to let love or feelings get in the way of it, even if it breaks her heart. As is shown when she goes back for Claire, even though she loves Aaron and will have to give him up.
This scene killed me! I have never seen Sawyer cried like that, but for some reason kate's reaction afterwards was so emotional. It was a great seen, but very sad!
I love Jack and Kate together and I like Sawyer and Juliet as well. Kate wasn't annoying, she was a great, wild and beautiful character who made a lot of mistakes as much as every character in LOST. Kate never had an easy life, she was scared to get hurt and to hurt people, she was not used to be really loved and was also afraid to feel too much, because she always ended up hurting people she cared more and hurting herself as well. She was confused, vulnerable and messed up, but was really brave, caring and loyal and her feelings for Jack have always been real, deep and genuine.
Alex B I totally agree with you. For one thing, Sawyer’s always been aware that Kate was in love with Jack. Secondly, what existed between Kate & Sawyer was based off circumstances and by that I mean, she only slept with him due to the circumstances of the situation like how he was going to die and seeing Jack getting close with Juliet. Finally, I think that Sawyer believed he loved her until he fell in love with Juliet then he realized that his feelings for Kate were nothing compared to the depth of love he had for Juliet. I think in this moment when Sawyer says he was planning to propose and even had a ring, Kate finally understands the relationship between Sawyer & Juliet because the love he has for her changed him in ways that his feelings for Kate never did which is why she cries. Kate is overcome with guilt for playing a part in Sawyer losing the best thing to ever happen to him and she was mourning how her actions robbed him of his happiness.
That's where I cry. Everything else sort of leads up to that, just one tragic thing after the other, and that's the last straw. Because that moment represents both Sawyer's grief over Juliet as well as Kate realizing she and Sawyer will never be together, and what they had would never measure up to what Sawyer lost. One of those moments in Lost that depict tragedy in all its forms and how it really feels- irreversible and hopeless.
I also think Kate cries because she did play a part in Juliet’s death but another reason why is because she didn’t really get the relationship between Sawyer & Juliet until this moment. She realizes how much he was changed by his love for Juliet and that he lost his happiness by losing Juliet which Kate inadvertently caused when she got them off the sub. She & the others had come back thinking that they were saving the ones who were left behind but in actuality, them coming back caused more harm than good.
So were Kate's tears for the guilt of having "ruined" Sawyer and Juliet's relationship by her being there convincing Sawyer to save Ben, by recruiting him to try and stop Jack, by her being on that sub, for her being there for Sawyer to look and Juliet catching THAT. Or were the tears for her realizing that Sawyer never loved her and never could love her the way he did Juliet. And that basically, she realized that he love Sawyer felt for Juliet...that was something that she had found with Jack...but somehow was unable to salvage?
@@ElvisRose_ That's my main question. Were they tears of guilt over her part in "robbing" Sawyer and Juliet of what they could have had (as represented by that ring). Or were they tears of heartbreak over realizing Sawyer could never love her (Kate) the way he did Juliet. And that what they had was just a tad more than an Island hook up.
@@victorpradha9946I know your comment is 3 years old 😆 I also had that question when i first saw it but then I thought it must be former because if at that point Kate was still hoping for Sawyer, her telling Jack she loved him by the end wouldn't seem as big anymore and only as "alternative". I'd like to think the show makers weren't intending for that.
Season 6 is so underrated. This has to be Josh Holloway's strongest acting scene in the whole show. His emotions are relatively straightforward, regret, and loss but Kate's are even more ridiculous. Pity for him, pity for juliet, and that shitty feeling of thinking about what COULD have happened had she chosen to stay with him and open up.
@@jonathancooper4914 She's crying because she sees how devastated he is, as Sawyer almost never showed deep pain to anyone. She could feel his heartbreak, and how devastated he is.
@@realizedemoneyes I think it felt quite a bit more complex and deeper than that. Yes...it may have been her realizing what she messed up for Sawyer and deprived him of. It could also be her realization of just how she could never have had what Sawyer and Juliet had and that her chance at THAT was with Jack which was messed up...seemingly beyond repair.
Remember, right before this Sawyer got in a fight with Jack and blamed him for Juliet's death, so the fact that he takes responsibility for it here is really telling about his character. He always blames himself, and he lashes out at others as a way of self sabotaging, which we know going all the way back to season 1 when Sayid tortured him.
i watched this scene for the first time ever last night with my boyfriend and he had to pause it bc i was crying so much. james has come so far since season 1 and it’s insane how in love he was with juliet
Kate.. In my Mind... Always Went Back and Forth from the 2 Men, Jack and Sawyer... But yet, Juliet and Sawyer Were Settled and Deeply Inlove. When She Died it Broke My Heart... Knowing that Sawyer would never love no one... or Even speak to some one the same way He did to Juliet ...
Love the music, "Oceans Apart", which was originally played in Season 3 when Karl was literally "oceans apart" from his girl, Kate&Sawyer were "oceans apart" emotionally (but he still was able to literally "light her fire"), and Jack&Juliet were just beginning. I think this music is intended to show how far Kate&Sawyer still are from understanding each others' motives and feelings.
He said " I asked her to stay because I did not want to be alone, do you understand that?" A parallel with what cassidy said to Kate about her taking aaron and a confession that he did not love Juliet in the first place
I think this is the actually the scene where they finally do understand each other’s motives and feelings. Hence the “you understand that, right?” line from Sawyer, and Kate crying because she finally understands how much Juliet meant to him.
lol some people actually think that kate is crying here because she can't have sawyer anymore?that's absolutely ridiculous, their affair closed long before and their relationship was never profound as it was mostly founded on lust and sexual attraction. Kate truly and deeply loved Jack (she confessed her love only for jack, never for sawyer and she wanted to start a family with Jack, just like Sawyer wanted to start a family with Juliet) same with Sawyer, he truly loved Juliet.
I would imagine she is crying because they indulged with one another's genitals when she was supposedly in love with Jack and Sawyer was just starting to fall in love with Juliet.
I think, Kate was a very empathic person ( although she could be cool and strong), she often was crying when bad things happened to the survivors, but she wasn't wicked like Juliet. Juliet was a very incincere person, manipulating as good as Ben. She gains the trust of Jack and the survivors through lies and betraying. I cannot understand, how anybody could love her character. And even Josh H. was wondering, why they changed into shipping him with Juliet.
@@verenamenzel4701 Josh and Elizabeth sure fought their pairing .. they didn't understand that it was just "angst" for Skate. Because Darlton didn't tell them! They had to make it look "real" and unfortunately, with the ONE SCENE in the kitchen in the sunflower, the audience was convinced enough to ignore EVERY OTHER SCENE IN THAT EPISODE! Every other scene that showed Sawyer pining for Kate, grieving her loss, three years later he and Jin were STILL doing grid searches, looking for Kate & Sun .. "how long, Sawyer? How long do we keep looking for them?" "As long as it takes!" says Sawyer! He was obviously lying to Horace when he said he was over "her", I didn't even need to know a thing about this show to see that! But when Kate showed up, and the way he looked at her, the SHAM of Suliet was all over. Surely Josh knew that. Surely anybody with EYES knew that.
Their affair closed in Eggtown, season 4. They would never worked as couple, the physical attraction wasn't enough. Kate never loved Sawyer romantically.
@Luka she was mourning everything she lost. She felt guilty for the Juliet's death and she was still grieving over Aaron. She was mourning what she built with Jack and the hope to start a family with him. She believed she lost Jack to the Island, that's why she totally broke when she saw the engagement ring.
Josh was not acting in this scene. He is actually grieving Elizabeth in this scene. If you look closely at 1:56 you can see that Josh's eyes appears to be red. He is crying for real in this scene. Juliet was the one Sawyer wanted to spent his life with and have a family. Sawyer indirectly told Kate that he was going to ask Juliet to marry him "before you all showed up". He's saying to her "I don't hate you but i hold you responsible for Juliet". I believe Sawyer didn't live very long after this. I can't help but feel that with Kate, Sawyer more thought that he loved her than he actually did love her. It really felt more sexual attraction than anything else. Just like Jack was the only one Kate wanted to spent her life with. As far as Sawyer and Kate's relationship goes, the closest thing they will ever have is platonic love.
Nope, definitely Kate won't let him die after the end. If even just to atone she would be there for him even he doesn't want to. And only they can understand each other after the end, the rest of the world would be all just strangers.
The only problem I have with Kate in this scene is that she thought that there would be no point for anyone if Claire and Aaron weren't reunited but she realized here that was only her view. The same way that Juliet and Sawyer told Jack that he didn't come back to rescue them and he came back to the island for himself because they'd been fine for 3 years. And within days of arriving Jack and Kate had bulldozed their whole lives.
I think Kate meant more that all the loss and all the heartache at least will have had purpose or some meaning if she's able to rescue Claire and reunite her with Aaron. I don't think she was suggesting that there was no value to the life Sawyer & Juliet made for themselves. Jack did NOT come back for himself really. He came back because John's death, the sightings of his father, the gnawing feeling that he has some yet to be fulfilled purpose on the Island drove him to want to make things right. Sun desperately mourns for Jin and knowing Jin is alive means she wants to go back and find Jin, and unite her family. Sayid is totally gone and self-loathing. Hurley admitted himself into a mental institution. Only Desmond and Penny seemed to be doing well OFF Island. Kate also seemed to be okay until the truth about who Aaron's real mother is was too much for her to bear. Really none of them (except Desmond and Penny) were at peace OFF Island either. They came back to set the wrongs that happened right. Sun w/ Jin, Kate with Aaron, Sayid with his atonement, Jack with his purpose, even Hugo with his sense of sanity and embrace of his abilities. I would argue that Sawyer, Miles, Jin and Juliet were all living lies. They knew that those Dharma folks, the people they were living with were going to get slaughtered in the purge and still just lived among them (the walking dead), laughing with them, working with them, having dinner and being "friends" with them. It was all just a kind of lie they lived, in almost the same way that Kate raising Aaron as her son was.
@@soheiladam7510 Yeah the show was far more nuanced about the motivations of the characters than people are either perceive or are willing to acknowledge. For example: Jack's father's comment "you don't have what it takes" was more about Jack being far too caring, emotionally invested, and morally and ethically self-demanding to be as cold and dispassionate as Christian sees himself. Dr. Christian Shephard: [to a young Jack] I had a boy on my table today. I don't know, maybe a year younger than you. He had a bad heart. It got real hairy, real fast. And everybody's looking to your old man to make decisions. And I was able to make those decisions because at the end of the day, after the boy died, I was able to wash my hands and come home to dinner. You know, watch a little Carol Burnett, laugh till my sides hurt. And how can I do that, hmm? I mean even when I fail, how do I do that, Jack? Because I have what it takes. Don't choose, Jack, don't decide. You don't want to be a hero. You don't want to try and save everyone because when you fail... you just don't have what it takes. Jack interpreted it as Jack's not hero material. Jack saw it as an indictment of HIM...being inadequate, being insufficient. NO...it was Christian saying to Jack, YOU care far TOO much to let go. Christian was right. We saw this when Jack .thought he failed Sarah, when Gabrielle's father died, when he cut that dural sac (in his story to Kate). Jack couldn't deal with "failing" to save Boone. He wants to be able to change the outcome. Why? Because his father was an alcoholic who was unfaithful to Jack and his mother. They were not enough. Not entirely unlike Kate hating what Wayne does/did to her mother. So Jack wanting to detonate a nuclear bomb was him trying to set this RIGHT...to avoid all the loss, the suffering, the pain, the struggle. IF it was ALL "for a reason...all for some clandestine purpose, then all those deaths, all the misery has to remain in place...has to be accepted and therefore unalterable. Jack doesn't like WHAT's DONE is DONE!!! He is this way until Season 6. He's come to accept loss and failure and keep going despite it. The man of purpose Jack becomes is because it's not that he finally realizes he has what it takes, but that he realizes and accepts that his nature has always been self-sacrificial (he gave his own blood to try and save Boone, he saved Kate and Sawyer from the Others even if it meant performing surgery on his tormentor, he swallowed the poison pill meant for Sayid, he accepted the role of the Island's protector to spare any one else the burden and risk, he restored the heart of the Island at the cost of his life so that Kate et al will be saved). Jack finally understood that not having what it takes means, he is NOTHING like his father...which is a GREAT THING!
@@victorpradha9946 yeah, if i may add that the changing process of who Jack is, started once he left the island(he told Sawyer that it didn't feel right leaving) and we know that change isn't easy, it can be messy, and during the whole period he was off the island his metamorphosis took place, and once he returned we have a new Jack, which mirrors the fact that we also have a new John locke.
@@victorpradha9946 The people in the 70s were in bizarre circumstances but that doesn’t make it a lie. Sawyer and Juliet were head over heels in love; before they stopped time traveling and landed in Dharma. However, they both felt Jack and Co. returning wasn’t about rescuing them and they were right. Jack nor Kate considering the repercussions of their return to the island each for their own idea of what grandiose destiny they had to fulfill and if they ruined lives even killed people in the process, they would willingly sacrifice those people. Now, was living in the 70s Dharma ideal but they had no other recourse and built good lives and happy relationships. That is until Jack and Kate returned to force upon them their ideas of what would make their ordeal worth it but she’s talking about all of them not just Aaron.
rebelo ham we didn't see it but sure as hell most of us believed it. And I say most because there are exception, like yourself I assume from what you said. But overall, most of us believed it because ot was well written and so well acted.
Sawyer was planning on proposing to Juliet, when Kate said she might be pregnant he said "Well let's hope you're not". I think we all know who Sawyer really wants to be with.
wheelmanstan It was back when they didn't know what happens to pregnant women on the island. They just knew that Juliet and Others had a special interest in them.
and why didn't juliet get pregnant in that 3 years, she was with sawyer- a time which wasn't dangerous for pregnant woman ( Amy/ Ethan)? There is absolutely no logic in that stories - that's what makes me angry!
Verena Menzel with Juliet being the fertility doctor and knowing what happens to pregnant women, she probably took every step she could in order not to get pregnant
As much as Sawyer loved Juliet, which he did and it was a real love and mature and lifelong, Kate was still his first real love. Anyone saying Sawyer wasn’t in love with Kate in the earlier seasons are kidding themselves. When he says, “I convinced her to stay because I didn’t want to be alone,” and then he looks at her and says, “You understand that right?” He meant because he didn’t want to be alone without Kate. He wanted Kate to know that he did love her, but that during the 3 years they were apart, he matured emotionally and fell in love with Juliette, and it was a real partnership and they brought out the best in each other. Juliette was intelligent and kind hearted, and truly loved him. Kate was immature and selfish through the entire series.
It’s funny how you say Kate was selfish and immature for the entire series after literally watching one of the scene where she explains how she gave up her relationship with Aaron in order to reunite him with Claire. Yeah, real selfish of her. But anyways, I think what Sawyer actually meant by the line “you understand that, right?” is simply that… she understands that. Kate doesn’t want to be alone either. Ever since she was denied a true authentic loving relationship since childhood because of her crappy parents, she’s craved some sort of love. That’s why she was so attached to Aaron. Because Aaron was finally someone who would love her unconditionally as his mother. Sawyer understood Kate’s desire to not be alone, just like him. That’s why he said that.
Kate n James were better as friends. It was nice to see this resolution here. They both acknowledge that they went on to fall in love with Jack and Juliet.
The character of Kate was wonderful, clear and mature in the lowest season. I wished she would remain that way... but unfortunately the writer in the remaining seasons made her a degraded character who is nothing but selfish. Even in the last season, even though Sawyer changed for the better, he chose Juliet and told her that he loved Juliet more than once. She always pursued him without stopping, not caring about Jack, and left him in a temple. She went to Sawyer, even though he asked her not to follow him. She did so even though she saw him broken down by Juliet’s passing. She took advantage of his loneliness and asked A chance to try She becomes his again. Her interest in Jack ended. She despised Jack and went to Sawyer, even though Jack loved her madly, but she only loves Sawyer, and this is very provocative.
She was hotter in every scene she was in. This was the beauty of the show, it wasn't black and white. Every character was complex and the love square of Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Juliet was sadly how life can be.
The character of Kate was wonderful, clear and mature in the lowest season. I wished she would remain that way... but unfortunately the writer in the remaining seasons made her a degraded character who is nothing but selfish. Even in the last season, even though Sawyer changed for the better, he chose Juliet and told her that he loved Juliet more than once. She always pursued him without stopping, not caring about Jack, and left him in a temple. She went to Sawyer, even though he asked her not to follow him. She did so even though she saw him broken down by Juliet’s passing. She took advantage of his loneliness and asked A chance to try She becomes his again. Her interest in Jack ended. She despised Jack and went to Sawyer, even though Jack loved her madly, but she only loves Sawyer, and this is very provocative.
Its strange to think of the possibility that Kate and sawyer could still be together after all this. Cos they supposedly leave the island together jack and Juliet are dead. And like Christian says at the end that some people die a lot later before the church scene. They had great chemistry but he truly loved Juliet no doubt
ARRRR I liked Kate in season 1 but from there it was just downhill for her character. She is so damn irritating. Poor Sawyer, at least he's reunited with Juliet in the end.
+Janie Leigh Sawyer and Juliet never worked for me. They were just an excuse because the writers dug themselves into a hole regarding those two, Kate and Jack. Luckily the actors were good enough to sell it but the characters never worked at all.
Paulie Walnuts They worked so well... With Kate, we always saw much more Sawyer, they were too similar and kept hurting each other. But Juliet was a quiet volcano, James was able to feel at peace with her, and he was able to calm her down in important moments too. That was a great relationship.
Definitely, Sawyer kind of knew Kate’s in love with Jack before she does, going all the way back to the time he told her Jack was trapped in the cave in with Charlie. I think Sawyer loved Kate more than he had up until that point in his life but after he falls in love with Juliet, he realized his feelings for Kate were weak compared to the way he feels about Juliet. Kate was important to him but Juliet... she was everything to him.
Everybody talk about Sawyer and Josh, but can we take a minute and appreciate Kate and Evangelline. Kate is so selfless, caring, empathic and helper, people underestimate her concern for everybody on the island to begin with Sawyer. Poeple hating her for not being the eternal sex toy of the the most sexist guy of the island, ignoring all the good things she intended to do to him. I think she respects Juliet, Sawyer and their ship more than Sawyer himself. I love that she chose Jack, I love that she respected his choice and let him accomplish his destiny, I just love how selflessly she loved him too. Very underrated character and actress.
Being with the default option with Sawyer not around is no choosing. Kate chooses Swayer when she jumped with him to the ship, leaving Jack on the Island.
I never liked Juliet. Some of the things she did were just cold blooded like telling Jin that Sun had an affair. That's so terrible. Of course I feel bad for sawyer.
Pete Zahut Yeah it was terrible but if she never said that, their children wouldn't never born and Sun will be dead. Jin was gonna to stay alone until his death. Instead, Sun leave and have a child, then she finally found her husband and ultimalty die with him, in, imo, one of the most powerful moment in tv serie.
She wasn't planning on saying that. She did to save Sun's life. If you put everything together and look at the big picture, in the end, Juliet is actually incredibly kind, maybe the kindest of them all. She sacrificed everything (even her own life) to help or save others. She was even ready to let go of the love of her life so he could love an other woman if he wanted to.
The most cold blooded thing she did might be when she killed Danny, but she did to save Kate and Sawyer... and even then she knew she could be killed for that, and she would have if Jack didn't intervene so she 'just' ended up marked.
@metsjets333 Disagree, Jack taking the pill was a good scene as was the claire reveal. Also there are a lot of double meanings in the flashsideways, which is cool.
Susana Villalobo Kate is crying because she feels terrible for Sawyer's loss of Juliet. This scene is clearly not about her, it is about empathy for Sawyer.
NotHer Again She didn't said it was about Kate, she said Kate was like that because Juliet death was their fault since they came back and shit start again.
Actually Lost wasn't going to have so many seasons. I remember reading an interview where Josh said he always taught Kate was the one for Sawyer. I loved Sawyer and Kate, and I wasn't very happy with Juliet at the beginning. Later on I felt Juliet and Sawyer really worked.
Kate was the one for Sawyer until Juliet but it was a pairing that no one saw coming yet once you see them together, it totally works. They’re a perfect match and the love is so deep and true which is what makes it so outstanding. Juliet is definitely his soulmate.
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He has changed so much since the first season.
who hasnt
sawyer is like jamie lannister ....
Oh. Josh
That great
He should go back to being who he was in the first season. He was happy and two dimensional. Also funny
Soo true!! Character development at its finest!
When he says "trying to leave this place" you can hear the trembling in his voice, honestly some of the best acting in the show.
Just look at him. That rude and sarcastic man in the first season (but still with a very hurtful past) and this sweet and loving man in season six. I just started re-watching the series mainly because I wandered what attracted me to Sawyer in the very beginning. And this scene describes this reason perfectly.
Sawyer is the best. And that s all.
Sawyer may have been the one who evolved the most. He went from a renegade, self-loathing loner and scavenging hoarder to a leader who genuinely tried to look out for everyone and keep them safe while prioritizing his relationship with Juliet.
I mean yeah....Jack evolved from a hard-nosed, stubborn, reactive man of science with a hero-complex to a patient, deferential, thoughtful man of faith, but Jack was always the save everyone type.
Sawyer became the save them all type. He worked hard in S6 to get his friends to safety. It's exactly THAT quality in Sawyer that Smokey used to plant that bomb and try to kill them all.
Sawyer was a mask. The real James Ford ended up coming out.
'I was gonna ask her to marry me.' OHMYGOD THE TEARS
There's an UNSPOKEN, "before you all (Jack, Hugo, Kate, Sayid) showed up" behind Sawyer's lament. When Sawyer begins pummeling Jack who was on his way to set off the hydrogen bomb at the future Swan hatch Site, he said to Jack, "I had a life here...what gives you the right to take all that away". You can tell it wasn't until Jack resolved to make so Oceanic never crashed, that Sawyer lost it. It meant that Sawyer would have never met Juliet, never have fallen in love with her, never lived a life of those 3 years with her. People tend to forget that Jack, Sawyer, Hurley, Kate, Sun & Jin, Sayid, John, Claire, et al were all together on the Island for ONLY 108 days. We don't know exactly how long Jack & Kate stayed together (long enough for them to be at the point of getting engaged, planning a wedding), Hugo wasn't with them he stayed in psychiatric care for a good chunk of the off Island time. Sayid was doing his own thing with Nadia until her death, and then became an international assassin for Ben. Sun went back to Korea and had Ji Yeon and became managing partner of Paik industries. Desmond was off living with Penny and having a kid with her.
Contrast that with 3 years together for Miles, Jin, Juliet & Sawyer. Living and working together. When Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid came back...their return essentially dynamited Juliet & Sawyer's lives. Imagine how Kate feels hearing that Sawyer was going to ask Juliet to marry him. Remember, Jack proposed to Kate and she accepted and they were at least beginning to plan their wedding. So Kate know exactly HOW deeply Sawyer loved Juliet. She knows exactly what she (and the rest) did TO HIM (and Juliet). Sawyer's words about being destined to alone...the felt like a dagger through the heart for Kate. Maybe from the sting of losing THAT type of intimacy with Jack, realizing that this kind of relationship was NEVER in the cards for her and Sawyer, and knowing that she had a part in taking all that away from Sawyer.
@@victorpradha9946 Absolutely true!
@@victorpradha9946 The character of Kate was wonderful, clear and mature in the lowest season. I wished she would remain that way... but unfortunately the writer in the remaining seasons made her a degraded character who is nothing but selfish.
Even in the last season, even though Sawyer changed for the better, he chose Juliet and told her that he loved Juliet more than once. She always pursued him without stopping, not caring about Jack, and left him in a temple. She went to Sawyer, even though he asked her not to follow him. She did so even though she saw him broken down by Juliet’s passing. She took advantage of his loneliness and asked A chance to try She becomes his again. Her interest in Jack ended. She despised Jack and went to Sawyer, even though Jack loved her madly, but she only loves Sawyer, and this is very provocative.
Sawyer was fantastic here. He was struggling to talk coherently
"I think some of us are meant to be alone." Can't get over the depth of that statement. It's a possible truth that society too often refuses to consider. If you've been around long enough to watch all of your attempts to not be alone fail, you can't help but start to believe it. Great writing and acting, Sawyer's best scene imo.
AndHoldTheMayo that was well said and it is relatable
Couldn t agree more
Ur comment has a lot of depth aswell.
I think society and us dont want to believe it because it so sad lonely scary and hopeless especially because it's true
still worth to try, always.
But in the end, Sawyer didn’t end up alone. He had his friends. “Not being alone” doesn’t always mean having a romantic partner. It means just having a support system of any type.
Plus they’re reunited for eternity in the afterlife, so there’s that as well 🤍
I loved Sawyer. His character grew so much over the years.
two best scenes in lost.
1. Penny and Desmond phone call, The Constant
2. This
Matt Smolek I would also like to add Charlie's list. It was in multiple scenes, but when he got to number 1 and it was "the night I met you (claire)" I just always loose it when I watch that. The whole episode was just beautiful.
I would have to go with the reunion scene of Sawyer & Juliet. I can’t understand why people dislike the finale when all these people who’d been through hell were reunited with the one person they loved most in their lives after they lost them.
Sawyer telling Jack about his dad
It is heartbreaking to see how much he loved Juliet. She is the only one he really wanted to start a family with. She was the one for him. With Kate, he did love her, but I can't help but feel like it was always a physical attraction more than anything. I gotta say, Josh Holloway's acting in all these scenes mourning Juliet, is just so on point. I can feel Sawyer's pain.
Agreed, excepting for the fact that I think the reason him and Kate didn't work out is because they were too similar. Kate called to the part of Sawyer that was vengeful and cunning and damaged by life, since she has exactly the same characteristics.He loved her for that because I think it was like somebody finally understood him and could match him in intelligence. But those same qualities that drew him to Kate also pushed him away from her, because they didn't encourage him to be any better than he was. With Kate, he was always stuck being the criminal in contrast to Jack's goodness. With Juliet, he found a woman who was also cunning and smart(as all the ladies Sawyer falls in love with are), but she also respected him and saw the goodness in him. She stood by his side when his friends died and gave him empathy, not pity. She thought he was worth staying on the Island for. She CHOSE him, which is important because it's something Kate would never do. Kate's a wonderful character, but she's like Jack in the sense that she's going to do what has to be done. She's not going to let love or feelings get in the way of it, even if it breaks her heart. As is shown when she goes back for Claire, even though she loves Aaron and will have to give him up.
@@jeweld.282 your comment is spot on I believe he only truly loved kate bit they both weren't right for each other.
@@peacelove4215 he did truly only loved kate because the scene about in the video proves that sawyer loved juliet lol
Goat
wrong because Kate and Sawyer are very much soulmates, it was the circumstances that kept them apart.
I do not understand how people can say season 6 was bad! i loved every second D:
Well Season 6 wasn't bad.. just the ending was..
+Katherine Pierce I agree it was one of the best seasons. The ending was excellent with all of the character's being brought together and moving on.
I agree. And I ABSOLUTELY LOVED the ending!
I love Season 6. It had a lot of great scenes like this.
Katherine Pierce ikr, it’s because it didn’t make a lot of sense to people, but I understand it and it was amazing!
Beautiful and heartbreaking scene, still makes my eyes tear up every time I see it. I miss this amazing show and its characters so much.
This scene killed me! I have never seen Sawyer cried like that, but for some reason kate's reaction afterwards was so emotional.
It was a great seen, but very sad!
This is the scene that put an end to Sawyer and Kate.
Sawyer and Kate were over long before this scene
Actually, their relationship never really began. This is a great scene, such a touching memory of Juliet!
I love Jack and Kate together and I like Sawyer and Juliet as well. Kate wasn't annoying, she was a great, wild and beautiful character who made a lot of mistakes as much as every character in LOST. Kate never had an easy life, she was scared to get hurt and to hurt people, she was not used to be really loved and was also afraid to feel too much, because she always ended up hurting people she cared more and hurting herself as well. She was confused, vulnerable and messed up, but was really brave, caring and loyal and her feelings for Jack have always been real, deep and genuine.
This is the scene where Walt became Heisenberg
Alex B I totally agree with you. For one thing, Sawyer’s always been aware that Kate was in love with Jack. Secondly, what existed between Kate & Sawyer was based off circumstances and by that I mean, she only slept with him due to the circumstances of the situation like how he was going to die and seeing Jack getting close with Juliet. Finally, I think that Sawyer believed he loved her until he fell in love with Juliet then he realized that his feelings for Kate were nothing compared to the depth of love he had for Juliet. I think in this moment when Sawyer says he was planning to propose and even had a ring, Kate finally understands the relationship between Sawyer & Juliet because the love he has for her changed him in ways that his feelings for Kate never did which is why she cries. Kate is overcome with guilt for playing a part in Sawyer losing the best thing to ever happen to him and she was mourning how her actions robbed him of his happiness.
The way Kate reacts in the end is perfect.
That's where I cry. Everything else sort of leads up to that, just one tragic thing after the other, and that's the last straw. Because that moment represents both Sawyer's grief over Juliet as well as Kate realizing she and Sawyer will never be together, and what they had would never measure up to what Sawyer lost. One of those moments in Lost that depict tragedy in all its forms and how it really feels- irreversible and hopeless.
I also think Kate cries because she did play a part in Juliet’s death but another reason why is because she didn’t really get the relationship between Sawyer & Juliet until this moment. She realizes how much he was changed by his love for Juliet and that he lost his happiness by losing Juliet which Kate inadvertently caused when she got them off the sub. She & the others had come back thinking that they were saving the ones who were left behind but in actuality, them coming back caused more harm than good.
So were Kate's tears for the guilt of having "ruined" Sawyer and Juliet's relationship by her being there convincing Sawyer to save Ben, by recruiting him to try and stop Jack, by her being on that sub, for her being there for Sawyer to look and Juliet catching THAT. Or were the tears for her realizing that Sawyer never loved her and never could love her the way he did Juliet. And that basically, she realized that he love Sawyer felt for Juliet...that was something that she had found with Jack...but somehow was unable to salvage?
@@ElvisRose_ That's my main question. Were they tears of guilt over her part in "robbing" Sawyer and Juliet of what they could have had (as represented by that ring). Or were they tears of heartbreak over realizing Sawyer could never love her (Kate) the way he did Juliet. And that what they had was just a tad more than an Island hook up.
@@victorpradha9946I know your comment is 3 years old 😆 I also had that question when i first saw it but then I thought it must be former because if at that point Kate was still hoping for Sawyer, her telling Jack she loved him by the end wouldn't seem as big anymore and only as "alternative". I'd like to think the show makers weren't intending for that.
Season 6 is so underrated. This has to be Josh Holloway's strongest acting scene in the whole show. His emotions are relatively straightforward, regret, and loss but Kate's are even more ridiculous. Pity for him, pity for juliet, and that shitty feeling of thinking about what COULD have happened had she chosen to stay with him and open up.
I think Kate realises what she could’ve had had she opened up and stopped running, and now it’s too late for her and both Jack and Sawyer.
@@jonathancooper4914 She's crying because she sees how devastated he is, as Sawyer almost never showed deep pain to anyone. She could feel his heartbreak, and how devastated he is.
@@realizedemoneyes I think it felt quite a bit more complex and deeper than that. Yes...it may have been her realizing what she messed up for Sawyer and deprived him of. It could also be her realization of just how she could never have had what Sawyer and Juliet had and that her chance at THAT was with Jack which was messed up...seemingly beyond repair.
Remember, right before this Sawyer got in a fight with Jack and blamed him for Juliet's death, so the fact that he takes responsibility for it here is really telling about his character. He always blames himself, and he lashes out at others as a way of self sabotaging, which we know going all the way back to season 1 when Sayid tortured him.
fav scene in the whole series right here
Pulled off the tough guy trying not to cry so well, made it so real. thanks for the upload.
i watched this scene for the first time ever last night with my boyfriend and he had to pause it bc i was crying so much. james has come so far since season 1 and it’s insane how in love he was with juliet
I like how Ocean's Apart is playing in the background! Juliet's theme and Sawyer/Juliet's recounter theme. Very touching
Juliet's Oceans Apart just kills me! Juliet and Sawyer's theme.
This makes even more special the moment they meet in front of the machines and remember each other
I think...............Some of us are meant to be alone
Kate.. In my Mind... Always Went Back and Forth from the 2 Men, Jack and Sawyer... But yet, Juliet and Sawyer Were Settled and Deeply Inlove. When She Died it Broke My Heart... Knowing that Sawyer would never love no one... or Even speak to some one the same way He did to Juliet ...
this scene gets me every time
Poor James…these characters had such heart breaking stories 😢
One of the best scenes of Lost...undoubtedly...and also one of my favs
I've always loved Juliet - the character, the actor and how she played it - since the first time I watched Lost.
Great scene. Giacchino knocks it out of the park once again
Love the music, "Oceans Apart", which was originally played in Season 3 when Karl was literally "oceans apart" from his girl, Kate&Sawyer were "oceans apart" emotionally (but he still was able to literally "light her fire"), and Jack&Juliet were just beginning. I think this music is intended to show how far Kate&Sawyer still are from understanding each others' motives and feelings.
He said " I asked her to stay because I did not want to be alone, do you understand that?" A parallel with what cassidy said to Kate about her taking aaron and a confession that he did not love Juliet in the first place
I think this is the actually the scene where they finally do understand each other’s motives and feelings. Hence the “you understand that, right?” line from Sawyer, and Kate crying because she finally understands how much Juliet meant to him.
When Juliet died, I didn't cry because of her. But Sawyer's grief in this scene knocked me out. This was too much.
Beaucoups d'émotions dans cette série .
A en pleurer !
This is the moment I knew for sure Sawyer and Kate were over.
lol some people actually think that kate is crying here because she can't have sawyer anymore?that's absolutely ridiculous, their affair closed long before and their relationship was never profound as it was mostly founded on lust and sexual attraction. Kate truly and deeply loved Jack (she confessed her love only for jack, never for sawyer and she wanted to start a family with Jack, just like Sawyer wanted to start a family with Juliet) same with Sawyer, he truly loved Juliet.
I would imagine she is crying because they indulged with one another's genitals when she was supposedly in love with Jack and Sawyer was just starting to fall in love with Juliet.
Dave2807 He wasn't starting to be in love with Juliet, he was already.
I think, Kate was a very empathic person ( although she could be cool and strong), she often was crying when bad things happened to the survivors, but she wasn't wicked like Juliet. Juliet was a very incincere person, manipulating as good as Ben. She gains the trust of Jack and the survivors through lies and betraying. I cannot understand, how anybody could love her character. And even Josh H. was wondering, why they changed into shipping him with Juliet.
Verena Menzel because she changed for the better... just like most of the characters of the show
@@verenamenzel4701 Josh and Elizabeth sure fought their pairing .. they didn't understand that it was just "angst" for Skate. Because Darlton didn't tell them! They had to make it look "real" and unfortunately, with the ONE SCENE in the kitchen in the sunflower, the audience was convinced enough to ignore EVERY OTHER SCENE IN THAT EPISODE! Every other scene that showed Sawyer pining for Kate, grieving her loss, three years later he and Jin were STILL doing grid searches, looking for Kate & Sun .. "how long, Sawyer? How long do we keep looking for them?" "As long as it takes!" says Sawyer! He was obviously lying to Horace when he said he was over "her", I didn't even need to know a thing about this show to see that! But when Kate showed up, and the way he looked at her, the SHAM of Suliet was all over. Surely Josh knew that. Surely anybody with EYES knew that.
BUT HE THREW IT IN THE OCEAN. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
It's there next to the diamond that Rose tossed in there as well.
Their affair closed in Eggtown, season 4. They would never worked as couple, the physical attraction wasn't enough. Kate never loved Sawyer romantically.
@Luka she was mourning everything she lost. She felt guilty for the Juliet's death and she was still grieving over Aaron. She was mourning what she built with Jack and the hope to start a family with him. She believed she lost Jack to the Island, that's why she totally broke when she saw the engagement ring.
My heart was breaking for Sawyer Hartman here. He found happiness with someone whom he really loved and it was ripped away from him to soon. 😥
Lost forever
Josh was not acting in this scene. He is actually grieving Elizabeth in this scene. If you look closely at 1:56 you can see that Josh's eyes appears to be red. He is crying for real in this scene.
Juliet was the one Sawyer wanted to spent his life with and have a family. Sawyer indirectly told Kate that he was going to ask Juliet to marry him "before you all showed up". He's saying to her "I don't hate you but i hold you responsible for Juliet". I believe Sawyer didn't live very long after this. I can't help but feel that with Kate, Sawyer more thought that he loved her than he actually did love her. It really felt more sexual attraction than anything else. Just like Jack was the only one Kate wanted to spent her life with.
As far as Sawyer and Kate's relationship goes, the closest thing they will ever have is platonic love.
Nope, definitely Kate won't let him die after the end. If even just to atone she would be there for him even he doesn't want to. And only they can understand each other after the end, the rest of the world would be all just strangers.
he can cry on my shoulder any day...
I LOVE the dialogue.
The only problem I have with Kate in this scene is that she thought that there would be no point for anyone if Claire and Aaron weren't reunited but she realized here that was only her view. The same way that Juliet and Sawyer told Jack that he didn't come back to rescue them and he came back to the island for himself because they'd been fine for 3 years. And within days of arriving Jack and Kate had bulldozed their whole lives.
I think Kate meant more that all the loss and all the heartache at least will have had purpose or some meaning if she's able to rescue Claire and reunite her with Aaron. I don't think she was suggesting that there was no value to the life Sawyer & Juliet made for themselves.
Jack did NOT come back for himself really. He came back because John's death, the sightings of his father, the gnawing feeling that he has some yet to be fulfilled purpose on the Island drove him to want to make things right. Sun desperately mourns for Jin and knowing Jin is alive means she wants to go back and find Jin, and unite her family. Sayid is totally gone and self-loathing. Hurley admitted himself into a mental institution. Only Desmond and Penny seemed to be doing well OFF Island. Kate also seemed to be okay until the truth about who Aaron's real mother is was too much for her to bear. Really none of them (except Desmond and Penny) were at peace OFF Island either. They came back to set the wrongs that happened right. Sun w/ Jin, Kate with Aaron, Sayid with his atonement, Jack with his purpose, even Hugo with his sense of sanity and embrace of his abilities.
I would argue that Sawyer, Miles, Jin and Juliet were all living lies. They knew that those Dharma folks, the people they were living with were going to get slaughtered in the purge and still just lived among them (the walking dead), laughing with them, working with them, having dinner and being "friends" with them. It was all just a kind of lie they lived, in almost the same way that Kate raising Aaron as her son was.
@@victorpradha9946 someone watched the show the right way. i totaly agree with you brother. you wrote exactly what i'm thinking. great comment.
@@soheiladam7510 Yeah the show was far more nuanced about the motivations of the characters than people are either perceive or are willing to acknowledge.
For example: Jack's father's comment "you don't have what it takes" was more about Jack being far too caring, emotionally invested, and morally and ethically self-demanding to be as cold and dispassionate as Christian sees himself.
Dr. Christian Shephard:
[to a young Jack] I had a boy on my table today. I don't know, maybe a year younger than you. He had a bad heart. It got real hairy, real fast. And everybody's looking to your old man to make decisions. And I was able to make those decisions because at the end of the day, after the boy died, I was able to wash my hands and come home to dinner. You know, watch a little Carol Burnett, laugh till my sides hurt. And how can I do that, hmm? I mean even when I fail, how do I do that, Jack? Because I have what it takes. Don't choose, Jack, don't decide. You don't want to be a hero. You don't want to try and save everyone because when you fail... you just don't have what it takes.
Jack interpreted it as Jack's not hero material. Jack saw it as an indictment of HIM...being inadequate, being insufficient. NO...it was Christian saying to Jack, YOU care far TOO much to let go. Christian was right. We saw this when Jack .thought he failed Sarah, when Gabrielle's father died, when he cut that dural sac (in his story to Kate). Jack couldn't deal with "failing" to save Boone. He wants to be able to change the outcome. Why? Because his father was an alcoholic who was unfaithful to Jack and his mother. They were not enough. Not entirely unlike Kate hating what Wayne does/did to her mother.
So Jack wanting to detonate a nuclear bomb was him trying to set this RIGHT...to avoid all the loss, the suffering, the pain, the struggle. IF it was ALL "for a reason...all for some clandestine purpose, then all those deaths, all the misery has to remain in place...has to be accepted and therefore unalterable. Jack doesn't like WHAT's DONE is DONE!!!
He is this way until Season 6. He's come to accept loss and failure and keep going despite it. The man of purpose Jack becomes is because it's not that he finally realizes he has what it takes, but that he realizes and accepts that his nature has always been self-sacrificial (he gave his own blood to try and save Boone, he saved Kate and Sawyer from the Others even if it meant performing surgery on his tormentor, he swallowed the poison pill meant for Sayid, he accepted the role of the Island's protector to spare any one else the burden and risk, he restored the heart of the Island at the cost of his life so that Kate et al will be saved). Jack finally understood that not having what it takes means, he is NOTHING like his father...which is a GREAT THING!
@@victorpradha9946 yeah, if i may add that the changing process of who Jack is, started once he left the island(he told Sawyer that it didn't feel right leaving) and we know that change isn't easy, it can be messy, and during the whole period he was off the island his metamorphosis took place, and once he returned we have a new Jack, which mirrors the fact that we also have a new John locke.
@@victorpradha9946 The people in the 70s were in bizarre circumstances but that doesn’t make it a lie. Sawyer and Juliet were head over heels in love; before they stopped time traveling and landed in Dharma.
However, they both felt Jack and Co. returning wasn’t about rescuing them and they were right. Jack nor Kate considering the repercussions of their return to the island each for their own idea of what grandiose destiny they had to fulfill and if they ruined lives even killed people in the process, they would willingly sacrifice those people.
Now, was living in the 70s Dharma ideal but they had no other recourse and built good lives and happy relationships. That is until Jack and Kate returned to force upon them their ideas of what would make their ordeal worth it but she’s talking about all of them not just Aaron.
Amazing acting.. Iv seen all seasons twice now.. And i feel like watching it for a third time
Jack Shephard is dead, Juliet Burke is dead, Charlie Pace is dead, Sayid Jarrah is dead, Sun and Jin Kwon are dead...
WHYYYYYY??! :( MY HEART IS DEAD!
think about this
Sawyer known Kate for 108 days + 10 days in dharma times.
Sawyer known Juliet during THREE fucking years!
yeah true we just didnt see it to believe it
rebelo ham we didn't see it but sure as hell most of us believed it. And I say most because there are exception, like yourself I assume from what you said. But overall, most of us believed it because ot was well written and so well acted.
Sawyer had so much character development
His arc from S1 was incredible
*huggles sawyer*
woow , brilliant scene. i have never seem sawyer being that emotional. has he any crying scenes except this in lost?
When she actually dies he cries
I think he also cries in S1E8 when he tells Kate to get out after she reads his letter.
God this is so painful to watch
I cried.
someone in the comments just said that season 1-3 sawyer would have hit this sawyer and told him to cowboy up and I can’t stop thinking about it
three years can do a lot to someone. he was finally able to let his guard down with juliet. he didn't have to fight to survive anymore
Sawyer 💔💔💔
When man like swayed shows his emotion , then your have to understand he is going through a lot 😢
Sawyer was planning on proposing to Juliet, when Kate said she might be pregnant he said "Well let's hope you're not". I think we all know who Sawyer really wants to be with.
well he didn't want her to be prego because she'd die
wheelmanstan It was back when they didn't know what happens to pregnant women on the island. They just knew that Juliet and Others had a special interest in them.
Nope, he didn't know that yet.
and why didn't juliet get pregnant in that 3 years, she was with sawyer- a time which wasn't dangerous for pregnant woman ( Amy/ Ethan)?
There is absolutely no logic in that stories - that's what makes me angry!
Verena Menzel with Juliet being the fertility doctor and knowing what happens to pregnant women, she probably took every step she could in order not to get pregnant
SAWYER SAWYER SAWYER
Oh. Don't cry!
“That was your house right? With Juliet”
Yepp.....
I was already deathly in love with him... Words can't describe now
sawyer season 4 onwards was a great man
As much as Sawyer loved Juliet, which he did and it was a real love and mature and lifelong, Kate was still his first real love. Anyone saying Sawyer wasn’t in love with Kate in the earlier seasons are kidding themselves. When he says, “I convinced her to stay because I didn’t want to be alone,” and then he looks at her and says, “You understand that right?” He meant because he didn’t want to be alone without Kate. He wanted Kate to know that he did love her, but that during the 3 years they were apart, he matured emotionally and fell in love with Juliette, and it was a real partnership and they brought out the best in each other. Juliette was intelligent and kind hearted, and truly loved him. Kate was immature and selfish through the entire series.
It’s funny how you say Kate was selfish and immature for the entire series after literally watching one of the scene where she explains how she gave up her relationship with Aaron in order to reunite him with Claire. Yeah, real selfish of her.
But anyways, I think what Sawyer actually meant by the line “you understand that, right?” is simply that… she understands that. Kate doesn’t want to be alone either. Ever since she was denied a true authentic loving relationship since childhood because of her crappy parents, she’s craved some sort of love. That’s why she was so attached to Aaron. Because Aaron was finally someone who would love her unconditionally as his mother. Sawyer understood Kate’s desire to not be alone, just like him. That’s why he said that.
One of the best acted scenes EVER. …K, just had to say that out loud. 🙂👍🏻
Poor Sawyer!
As soon as i saw the ring, i was in tears
Happy birthday sawyer from italian boy live in rome and I m fan of lost
Kate n James were better as friends. It was nice to see this resolution here. They both acknowledge that they went on to fall in love with Jack and Juliet.
The character of Kate was wonderful, clear and mature in the lowest season. I wished she would remain that way... but unfortunately the writer in the remaining seasons made her a degraded character who is nothing but selfish.
Even in the last season, even though Sawyer changed for the better, he chose Juliet and told her that he loved Juliet more than once. She always pursued him without stopping, not caring about Jack, and left him in a temple. She went to Sawyer, even though he asked her not to follow him. She did so even though she saw him broken down by Juliet’s passing. She took advantage of his loneliness and asked A chance to try She becomes his again. Her interest in Jack ended. She despised Jack and went to Sawyer, even though Jack loved her madly, but she only loves Sawyer, and this is very provocative.
T.T awww I just want to hug him and not let go!!
Oh sawyer You became my fav character after this
goddammit i cant put the pieces of my broken heart back together :(
Saddest scene on this show.
This is the best scene in thw whole season! I feel exactly the way Sawyer does "I think some of us are just ment ot be alone" and thats totally me!
Every moment is EPIC...Serbia
ooo de si hahahah
If you think Sawyer belongs with Kate, why are you watching the ONE scene that proves that Juliet is the one meant for him? Go away.
sawyer and juliet and kate and jack would be the best ending... sad only 2 of them survive
She was hotter in every scene she was in. This was the beauty of the show, it wasn't black and white. Every character was complex and the love square of Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Juliet was sadly how life can be.
Underrated scene from an overall unmemorable episode
The character of Kate was wonderful, clear and mature in the lowest season. I wished she would remain that way... but unfortunately the writer in the remaining seasons made her a degraded character who is nothing but selfish.
Even in the last season, even though Sawyer changed for the better, he chose Juliet and told her that he loved Juliet more than once. She always pursued him without stopping, not caring about Jack, and left him in a temple. She went to Sawyer, even though he asked her not to follow him. She did so even though she saw him broken down by Juliet’s passing. She took advantage of his loneliness and asked A chance to try She becomes his again. Her interest in Jack ended. She despised Jack and went to Sawyer, even though Jack loved her madly, but she only loves Sawyer, and this is very provocative.
❤
Its strange to think of the possibility that Kate and sawyer could still be together after all this. Cos they supposedly leave the island together jack and Juliet are dead. And like Christian says at the end that some people die a lot later before the church scene. They had great chemistry but he truly loved Juliet no doubt
"I was gonna ask her to marry me". Kate's expression/reaction to this was priceless. Yeah b**ch he really loved Juliet.
Here comes the waaaaambulance dude this is so emotional
So as a viewer of the show of Lost, I was a Sawyer and plus Kate. No Kate. See test Juliet. ❤️ Break
ARRRR I liked Kate in season 1 but from there it was just downhill for her character. She is so damn irritating. Poor Sawyer, at least he's reunited with Juliet in the end.
+Janie Leigh Sawyer and Juliet never worked for me. They were just an excuse because the writers dug themselves into a hole regarding those two, Kate and Jack. Luckily the actors were good enough to sell it but the characters never worked at all.
Paulie Walnuts They totally worked for me!
+Janie Leigh it worked ..... Lol
+Baggy Mousers yeah they did! :)
Paulie Walnuts They worked so well... With Kate, we always saw much more Sawyer, they were too similar and kept hurting each other. But Juliet was a quiet volcano, James was able to feel at peace with her, and he was able to calm her down in important moments too. That was a great relationship.
This was actually episode 3
Sawyer did love Kate he just knew she was in love with Jack
I think Sawyer falls hard for people. He loved Kate but it was a different love to the one he had with Juliet
Definitely, Sawyer kind of knew Kate’s in love with Jack before she does, going all the way back to the time he told her Jack was trapped in the cave in with Charlie. I think Sawyer loved Kate more than he had up until that point in his life but after he falls in love with Juliet, he realized his feelings for Kate were weak compared to the way he feels about Juliet. Kate was important to him but Juliet... she was everything to him.
@@ElvisRose_ Juliete was a patch for Kate.
Everybody talk about Sawyer and Josh, but can we take a minute and appreciate Kate and Evangelline.
Kate is so selfless, caring, empathic and helper, people underestimate her concern for everybody on the island to begin with Sawyer. Poeple hating her for not being the eternal sex toy of the the most sexist guy of the island, ignoring all the good things she intended to do to him. I think she respects Juliet, Sawyer and their ship more than Sawyer himself.
I love that she chose Jack, I love that she respected his choice and let him accomplish his destiny, I just love how selflessly she loved him too.
Very underrated character and actress.
Being with the default option with Sawyer not around is no choosing.
Kate chooses Swayer when she jumped with him to the ship, leaving Jack on the Island.
This is episode 3
fucking heart wrenching
Are you joking? That's why it was Juliet, and not Kate, that made Sawyer remember. They loved eachother- they just couldn't get over their own issues
I used to like how he used adjust is hair time to time by just shaking is head.
GOD FUCKING DAMMNIT MAN!
I never liked Juliet. Some of the things she did were just cold blooded like telling Jin that Sun had an affair. That's so terrible. Of course I feel bad for sawyer.
Pete Zahut Yeah it was terrible but if she never said that, their children wouldn't never born and Sun will be dead.
Jin was gonna to stay alone until his death.
Instead, Sun leave and have a child, then she finally found her husband and ultimalty die with him, in, imo, one of the most powerful moment in tv serie.
She wasn't planning on saying that. She did to save Sun's life. If you put everything together and look at the big picture, in the end, Juliet is actually incredibly kind, maybe the kindest of them all. She sacrificed everything (even her own life) to help or save others. She was even ready to let go of the love of her life so he could love an other woman if he wanted to.
The most cold blooded thing she did might be when she killed Danny, but she did to save Kate and Sawyer... and even then she knew she could be killed for that, and she would have if Jack didn't intervene so she 'just' ended up marked.
yes, she was unappealing, cold and designing. She doesn't fit to sawyer. But that was the fault of the filmmakers: bad choice.
i cried too :/
@TheElemental1991
How is it Sawyer's fault?
@metsjets333 Disagree, Jack taking the pill was a good scene as was the claire reveal. Also there are a lot of double meanings in the flashsideways, which is cool.
i think kate cries because she knows, she really screw things up for swayer.
screwed*
Susana Villalobo Kate is crying because she feels terrible for Sawyer's loss of Juliet. This scene is clearly not about her, it is about empathy for Sawyer.
NotHer Again She didn't said it was about Kate, she said Kate was like that because Juliet death was their fault since they came back and shit start again.
How so? You seem to be ignoring everything else she did throughout the entire series.
@TheElemental1991 Good point you made there
*scene* and yes it was great but sad
But I think some of us are meant to be alone ... :(
Actually Lost wasn't going to have so many seasons. I remember reading an interview where Josh said he always taught Kate was the one for Sawyer. I loved Sawyer and Kate, and I wasn't very happy with Juliet at the beginning. Later on I felt Juliet and Sawyer really worked.
Kate was the one for Sawyer until Juliet but it was a pairing that no one saw coming yet once you see them together, it totally works. They’re a perfect match and the love is so deep and true which is what makes it so outstanding. Juliet is definitely his soulmate.
@@ElvisRose_ And you base it on what? A flower scene?
He convicted her to stay because he didn't want to be alone. Juliet was only a bandage.