Mick I continue to find your pen reviews among the most insightful and useful out there. I appreciate your close attention to detail and design. Your respect for proper industrial design is refreshing in how you discuss the tight integration between aesthetics and functionality ... and use it to draw rational conclusions regarding how the product excels or fails. Despite your calm presentation, your reviews carry a insightful level of consideration which for me aligns with my personal expectations / values. I had missed this specific review, but I'm glad I found it; the review had exactly the type of information I needed from a person I trust. Many thanks!
So glad I found your channel! Your reviews are to the point and useful. Also an odd bit but I get terrible headaches and your specific voice and the sound quality on your videos is one of the very few that soothe rather than aggravate when I have one.
Nice work Mick! I have my MB, Pelikan, Visconti, etc.. but I always come back to the 8 or so Twsbi's that I have.. I love them all.. especially my 580 Rose gold! And Philip Wang is a class act representing the company! Keep the nice work flowing! Frank from Boulder, Colorado
This video is really helpful to me! I'm also a TWSBI fan & I'm adding a broad & stub to the family this week! That will give me one of everything except for extra fine which I'm not too interested in. Thank you for the helpful video!
Thanks for all this, and other similar videos you've put out that are MUCH appreciated comparisons. Looks to me like your 580 Medium is just a WET writer and didn't offer much contrast, but I bet it's glorious to write with.
Just for some clarity, the nib sizes stated are slightly off. The 580 actually uses a n°5, with the Vac700 using a 6. The eeco actually uses a modified n°5. This nib is not interchangeable with other n°5s.
Thank you for a great comparison video. Exactly what I was needing :) ordered my 1st TWSBI diamond 580 iris with medium nib. Hope mine lays down ink like yours.. gorgeous!
The 580ALs don't use No.6 nibs, they're size 5.5 . That's a size 5 feed with slightly larger nib (broader shoulders, slightly longer tines). The Vac 700R is a size 6 nib.
I wish Rhodia would make it a bit easier to split the paper where it's perforated. It's hard to look at the paper when it's all ripped like that, and it happens with mine, I have to go in with a knife and trim the excess paper off
Yes, TWSBI medium is similar to Pilot medium nib. Lamy (I have LX) medium on the other hand is thicker than TWSBI medium and slightly thinner than the TWSBI broad.
I bought my first TWISBI eco and 580 after watching your video. What are your thoughts on the feed? I almost bent my feed trying to change them between TWISBI models.
Thanks Mick, a good comparison! As you stated, TWSBI medium nibs do have variation between the different sizes. My Eco, 580, and Vac700R medium nibs all write a bit differently, with the 700R being the widest and wettest of them all. I've not yet gotten a TWSBI stub, but may get one for the 700R, although that new gray 580AL looks pretty sharp.
Thank you for this info. I have been trying to decide between a broad and a stub in lamy Or a broad and a stubby in Twisbi. Any suggestions for a newbie?
Go with TWSBI, you won’t regret it. I have Lamy pens and I’m not a huge fan. I also have the medium TWSBI Eco and a broad TWSBI mini and I love these pens. I will be getting the TWSBI Eco Rosegold 1.1 stub next.
Ohhhhhh good deal! Haven't watched the video yet but I know this will help with my next penvestment ;) Helped me to decide I want another stub, going for the 580 rose gold smoke
Enjoyed your video. I have only been using fountain pens for bit over a year and always get EF and F and do have 2 Ecos and love the Pilot Preras. Want to try a different stub and more for notes in pretty writing and not sure if I would be happier with broad or stub?
This will depend on a number of factors… such as the size and style of your handwriting to how you hold the pen. If you want the writing to have some flair, and you can consistently hold your pen on the correct angle (something I am not good at) I would suggest a stub. I enjoy the Twsbi stub nibs. But if you just want to show off the ink colour and your handwriting is a decent size, the Twsbi broad nibs are great.
I think you might enjoy a stub nib. And something like the Twsbi or Lamy 1.1mm stubs, might be a good place to start. as well as the Twsbi Eco, check out the Twsbi 580. The slightly larger nib gives the fingers a nice distance from the page helping find a really comfortable, relaxed writing experience in my opinion.
Very helpful and timely. I have been thinking of getting my first TWSBI AL since they came out with the gray. Have several other TWSBIs and have been trying to decide which nib I would get.
Michael Simon OH YES!!! The TWSBI 580 ALR Nickel Grey blew my mind. I'll get my first TWSBI, a TWSBI MINI AL Blue in EF, soon and if it writes well _I HAVE TO GET THE OTHER ONE!!!_
@@herrkeks8509 I'm thinking of the Emerald green 580 AL and I think EF for me because in non-fountain pens I usually go with .38 because I like the finest lines I can get
mcnanns I‘m thinking about this one as well. I have the Mini AL blue in EF and the 580 AL R Nickel Grey. I would recommend the 580 AL. It is very smooth, IF you let the pen barely touch the page it really is very smooth :) And the nib has a little bit of give to it. You can‘t use this give while writing, but you can use it to make thick lines. I also want to get the AL Emerald! This time in 1.1 stub, this is a very nice nib for me because i write like ///// _this_ and not like ||||| this, so it still es relatively fine :) I can only recommend the 580 EF. Especially the Emerald color seems to look great. I don’t necessarily recommend the Mini EF... Stiff as nails :P and it still is smooth (doesn’t grab the page), but it feels like you sandpaper. Not necessarily bad, but when you can get the 580, then get the 580. Very smooth when you write with a very light hand. Great pen :)
Mick I continue to find your pen reviews among the most insightful and useful out there. I appreciate your close attention to detail and design. Your respect for proper industrial design is refreshing in how you discuss the tight integration between aesthetics and functionality ... and use it to draw rational conclusions regarding how the product excels or fails. Despite your calm presentation, your reviews carry a insightful level of consideration which for me aligns with my personal expectations / values. I had missed this specific review, but I'm glad I found it; the review had exactly the type of information I needed from a person I trust. Many thanks!
So glad I found your channel! Your reviews are to the point and useful. Also an odd bit but I get terrible headaches and your specific voice and the sound quality on your videos is one of the very few that soothe rather than aggravate when I have one.
I am sensitive to sound as well and also find his voice pleasant to hear.
Just the kind of comparison video I was searching for so thank you so much for that !!
Nice work Mick! I have my MB, Pelikan, Visconti, etc.. but I always come back to the 8 or so Twsbi's that I have.. I love them all.. especially my 580 Rose gold! And Philip Wang is a class act representing the company! Keep the nice work flowing!
Frank from Boulder, Colorado
As a fellow leftie- Thank you. I'll go for the Eco stub nib on the strength of your review
This video is really helpful to me! I'm also a TWSBI fan & I'm adding a broad & stub to the family this week! That will give me one of everything except for extra fine which I'm not too interested in. Thank you for the helpful video!
Finaly a lefty reviewer :)
I’m new and confused about the differences between #s 5 & 6. Where and what differences are measured?
Well done. Great nib comparison. TWSBI is one of the most consistent nibs among Mass produced pens. Thanks for putting this together.
Thanks, I just ordered my first two TWSBI's today (ECOs in broad and 1.1)..
Thanks for all this, and other similar videos you've put out that are MUCH appreciated comparisons.
Looks to me like your 580 Medium is just a WET writer and didn't offer much contrast, but I bet it's glorious to write with.
Just for some clarity, the nib sizes stated are slightly off. The 580 actually uses a n°5, with the Vac700 using a 6. The eeco actually uses a modified n°5. This nib is not interchangeable with other n°5s.
Thank you for a great comparison video. Exactly what I was needing :) ordered my 1st TWSBI diamond 580 iris with medium nib. Hope mine lays down ink like yours.. gorgeous!
Thank you Mick! Thoughtful comparison!
The 580ALs don't use No.6 nibs, they're size 5.5 . That's a size 5 feed with slightly larger nib (broader shoulders, slightly longer tines).
The Vac 700R is a size 6 nib.
Thanks. No waffle and straight to the point with the information I wanted.
I wish Rhodia would make it a bit easier to split the paper where it's perforated. It's hard to look at the paper when it's all ripped like that, and it happens with mine, I have to go in with a knife and trim the excess paper off
Very helpful! My first broad nib was also my first Eco and I love both the nib and the pen.
Gary Gentile same! It started an obsession.
Same me, its soo wet :-D
Hey! The diamond 580 dosent have a #6 nib and it dosent have a #5 nib either, it has a #5.5 nib
Does the TWSBI medium write like a Pilot Medium or is it more of a Lamy Safari medium?
Yes, TWSBI medium is similar to Pilot medium nib. Lamy (I have LX) medium on the other hand is thicker than TWSBI medium and slightly thinner than the TWSBI broad.
Thx for this Mick! I was just thinking about this for a possible new pen. 😀👍🏻
I spend quite a bit of time drawing and sketching on white trace paper. The twsbi fine nib is the sweet spot for me. And consistent.
I bought my first TWISBI eco and 580 after watching your video. What are your thoughts on the feed? I almost bent my feed trying to change them between TWISBI models.
Thanks Mick, a good comparison! As you stated, TWSBI medium nibs do have variation between the different sizes. My Eco, 580, and Vac700R medium nibs all write a bit differently, with the 700R being the widest and wettest of them all. I've not yet gotten a TWSBI stub, but may get one for the 700R, although that new gray 580AL looks pretty sharp.
Thank you for this info.
I have been trying to decide between a broad and a stub in lamy
Or
a broad and a stubby in Twisbi.
Any suggestions for a newbie?
Go with TWSBI, you won’t regret it. I have Lamy pens and I’m not a huge fan. I also have the medium TWSBI Eco and a broad TWSBI mini and I love these pens. I will be getting the TWSBI Eco Rosegold 1.1 stub next.
@@sonnyca which size is your favorite// ? i’m thinking of getting 1.1 since i am only going to be using it to outline some drawings
I wish I could find this video earlier. Thank you for doing that video, friend!
How much feedback does the TWSBI ECO have in comparison to the Lamy Safari?
Thanks. That was actually helpful.
Ohhhhhh good deal! Haven't watched the video yet but I know this will help with my next penvestment ;)
Helped me to decide I want another stub, going for the 580 rose gold smoke
Very good video ! RS.
The 580 has a number 5 the eco has number 4 and the vac 700 has a 6 nib
Very helpful. Thank you
Enjoyed your video.
I have only been using fountain pens for bit over a year and always get EF and F and do have 2 Ecos and love the Pilot Preras. Want to try a different stub and more for notes in pretty writing and not sure if I would be happier with broad or stub?
This will depend on a number of factors… such as the size and style of your handwriting to how you hold the pen. If you want the writing to have some flair, and you can consistently hold your pen on the correct angle (something I am not good at) I would suggest a stub. I enjoy the Twsbi stub nibs. But if you just want to show off the ink colour and your handwriting is a decent size, the Twsbi broad nibs are great.
@@theoffstageme I enjoy writing cursive and more on slant with three finger grip. I live thin lines ( EF) but want to see color shading better.
I think you might enjoy a stub nib. And something like the Twsbi or Lamy 1.1mm stubs, might be a good place to start. as well as the Twsbi Eco, check out the Twsbi 580. The slightly larger nib gives the fingers a nice distance from the page helping find a really comfortable, relaxed writing experience in my opinion.
Very helpful and timely. I have been thinking of getting my first TWSBI AL since they came out with the gray. Have several other TWSBIs and have been trying to decide which nib I would get.
Michael Simon OH YES!!! The TWSBI 580 ALR Nickel Grey blew my mind. I'll get my first TWSBI, a TWSBI MINI AL Blue in EF, soon and if it writes well _I HAVE TO GET THE OTHER ONE!!!_
@@herrkeks8509 I'm thinking of the Emerald green 580 AL and I think EF for me because in non-fountain pens I usually go with .38 because I like the finest lines I can get
mcnanns I‘m thinking about this one as well. I have the Mini AL blue in EF and the 580 AL R Nickel Grey. I would recommend the 580 AL. It is very smooth, IF you let the pen barely touch the page it really is very smooth :) And the nib has a little bit of give to it. You can‘t use this give while writing, but you can use it to make thick lines. I also want to get the AL Emerald! This time in 1.1 stub, this is a very nice nib for me because i write like ///// _this_ and not like ||||| this, so it still es relatively fine :) I can only recommend the 580 EF. Especially the Emerald color seems to look great. I don’t necessarily recommend the Mini EF... Stiff as nails :P and it still is smooth (doesn’t grab the page), but it feels like you sandpaper. Not necessarily bad, but when you can get the 580, then get the 580. Very smooth when you write with a very light hand. Great pen :)
thx for the review
really helpful, thanks
The 580s sport a #5 nib the ECOes a #4
thanks for this video
Nice video, thank you for sharing
Good video, thanks.
Great video thank you!
Thank you.
nah man... the only way to do this comparison is using cursive.
He’s writing with his left hand, weird!