An informative video. I purchased a 2009 1.25 Zetec Climate last year with 87,500 miles. One previous owner (from new) and although there were consistent service stamps for the first 6-7 years....the data began to "fade" (shall we say) as the car aged. The dear lady who previously owned it knew nothing about "timing belts" or replacement intervals. I asked the garage who'd been doing the car's early servicing if they had anything on file regarding a cam belt replacement? They did not....I therefore had to assume that it needed replacement. I got a new cam-belt-kit fitted.. (inc water pump etc) It cost £300 courtesy of a local, independent garage and the work was completed in one day. Peace of mind now fully restored. I like your "inspection" technique, but as a means of examining an existing timing belt for wear, stress and general condition, I don't think it would have placated my anxieties thoroughly enough. I also have to say that there's been (what feels like) a significant ramp up in horsepower since the new belt-kit was fitted. The brand-new, unworn "teeth" of the new belt combined with it's re-tensioning have made the engine feel (and sound) almost brand new and the car leaps forward much quicker under acceleration. The moral of the story? Fears of total engine ruination aside....why not just treat yourself to a NEW timing-belt kit. On a more "mature" vehicle with significant miles on it, you're not really getting the best out of the vehicle....even if the existing belt is well within it's replacement intervals. Your engine will also become more fuel efficient as a result. You may not have had the pleasure of owning the car from "new"....but for a very small (relative) outlay, you can enjoy a taste of what the car originally performed like when it originally left the dealership!! (All other mechanical considerations being equal that is...) 😀
Really useful cheers: just bought a '58 plate 1.25 Zetec with pretty much no service history with 97k so need to check the timing belt. Thankfully, easy little car/engine to work in & around 😊
very good and useful video. My Mondeo MK4 2007 has done about 130k, most likely the timing belt has never been changed. now i know how i can check it. thank you.
You are absolutely right. But take care while working on this stuff. Its a common problem with this Timing belts and Chains, not knowing if the have been changed, but don't forget that it is not only about the timing Belt, but also about the water pump and the tensioner. In my case I got Ford Fusion with the 1.4 TDCI engine which has 10 year o 250.000 km (150.000 miles) change interval.I hot the car for cheap with 200.000 km, and the prev. Owner said he changed it, but he has only an paper- offer from the mechanic, no invoice. I checked it like you did, and now I know that is has been changed, but not when. Car is from 2007, so I I figure I got 5 years left. If only everyone would write it on the damn engine: Miles and Date.
Thank you for the video. I have a 2006 Fiesta (identical to the one in the video) - bought it second hand in 2018 with just 39K miles on it - but no record of the belt ever being replaced. I have since driven it up to 80K miles and decided to take it to a garage to have the belt replaced regardless. It was all done in one day. The timing belt, the drive belt, water pump + coolant. Cost: £380 - so not cheap considering value of car - but had to be done as I intend to keep the car for another 2-3 years.
I did what you did exact same car, the writing was orange, and to be honest I can't tell, how long does the writing stay on their @@lambsmotorworld2599
It’s fine that the belt looks good. I had a car that the belt looked great, then the bottom pulley spun and left the cams out by 180°. If I’d had it done it would have been sorted.
thanks. just bought a fiesta. written in service book belt was changed 20k ago but no garage stamp or anything. mine was a gates belt same as yours so i assume this must have been changed. thanks for the tip on how to check
@8.17, looks a good belt, the writing hasn't worn off which it does as the top runs on a pulley & wears it off, personally i would have got a socket on the crank pulley & done it by hand, shouldn't start the engine or have anything propping the cover open that is asking for trouble, also Ford recommend a belt change at 100,000 or 10 years, the garage trade recommend a belt to be changed at 50,000
Nice one really well explained...my fiestas make a sligh dull moan from that area all of a sudden. I'm just trying to suss out what's happening... Cheers
Thanks for your comment. I hope you can get to the bottom of your problem. Something to bear in mind is that noise travels. What I mean is, for example, the bearing in the tensioner that runs off the auxiliary belt might be faulty, but as the belt spins under pressure, it can transfer the noise, thereby making it sound like it’s coming from a different area. A quick way to try and establish where a noise might be coming from is to use a “listening stick”. Basically, get a stick that’s quite rigid and place it on various components in the area the noise is coming from, while the engine is running. Then put your ear to the other end and listen for obvious grumbles. You might then be able to tell where it’s coming from and avoid unnecessary expense. I hope this explanation makes sense?
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Had mine from 78k 4 years ago.. on 102k now. Definitely doing this tomorrow. Was told on purchase it was done.. what will an original be stamped up as?
could you do a video on the essential tools an amateur needs to carry out basic checks? I've been cheated so many times now in my area. Don't trust mechanics anymore
When belt was changed? Was it a kit or just belt changed? What about water pump? Fully respected your work! There is many things that people can fix and check around the car by themselves. Cost of repair s after timing issues are way above 300.
I brought one too 😊 07 130 k .. ran like a bag of arse, there was full servuce history..! The air filter was og.. crumpled up like a dry lung..😮 and the fuel filter was OG as well ..! Put a k&n air filter in it and a new fuel filter now it sings Yeww.. but gotta check this bemt now😊
They might do now, but I think it would have been less common for them to fit a third-party branded part in 2004/5. Can't be certain though. It does suggest that Gates is a good brand. That belt looks in good condition.
Looking on line most places seem to suggest 10 years or 100000 miles, whichever comes first. But I’m a firm believer that the older a car gets the more frequently it should be serviced etc., so I would say reduce this interval to 75000 miles or 6 years
My 2006 1.25 fiesta is 17 years old only done 44.5k miles I've never changed the cambelt yet so just shows you don't need to change things as often as they say it's all a money making con 😁
What is the point of inspecting the cambelt .they are changed at time or milage intervals. If it has reached one of these intervals it needs changing regardless of what it looks like .
Wrong ! My fiesta is 17 years old, has done around 44k miles and I've not changed the cambelt yet! it's all a money making con really change this or that after so many miles or within a year just to get your 💰
There’s a number of manufacturers that make belts to fit most cars. Dunlop, Gates, Goodyear are just a few. Your local Motor Factor / Car Parts store would be able to advise
Sorry I don’t know the answer to that. I’m not a qualified mechanic. Just someone that has a degree of mechanical knowledge and isn’t afraid to have a go. What I do know, I share with fellow novices. If I were to hazard a guess, I’d say that if you have access to a strobe light and know what the timing should be, with the cam belt cover removed and the engine turning over, you may be able to measure the timing that way? But that really is a guess. I hope you find the answer you need
For anybody watching this, this is the incorrect way to check a timing belt. The backside of the belt makes contact with nothing other than a couple of pulleys. So doesn’t matter if it looks new. The important and integral part to check is the inside of the belt teeth, as they get worn and eventually slip on the cam pulleys. General rule of thumb is, replace a timing belt if your car is 100k miles. Most belts last thing long.
Nice info ! My fiesta 2006 studio only done around 44k miles so not much in 17 years never changed the cambelt yet just shows it's all a money making con change this or that every year or x amount of miles proper con ain't it lol
An informative video.
I purchased a 2009 1.25 Zetec Climate last year with 87,500 miles. One previous owner (from new) and although there were consistent service stamps for the first 6-7 years....the data began to "fade" (shall we say) as the car aged. The dear lady who previously owned it knew nothing about "timing belts" or replacement intervals. I asked the garage who'd been doing the car's early servicing if they had anything on file regarding a cam belt replacement? They did not....I therefore had to assume that it needed replacement. I got a new cam-belt-kit fitted.. (inc water pump etc) It cost £300 courtesy of a local, independent garage and the work was completed in one day.
Peace of mind now fully restored.
I like your "inspection" technique, but as a means of examining an existing timing belt for wear, stress and general condition, I don't think it would have placated my anxieties thoroughly enough. I also have to say that there's been (what feels like) a significant ramp up in horsepower since the new belt-kit was fitted. The brand-new, unworn "teeth" of the new belt combined with it's re-tensioning have made the engine feel (and sound) almost brand new and the car leaps forward much quicker under acceleration.
The moral of the story?
Fears of total engine ruination aside....why not just treat yourself to a NEW timing-belt kit. On a more "mature" vehicle with significant miles on it, you're not really getting the best out of the vehicle....even if the existing belt is well within it's replacement intervals. Your engine will also become more fuel efficient as a result. You may not have had the pleasure of owning the car from "new"....but for a very small (relative) outlay, you can enjoy a taste of what the car originally performed like when it originally left the dealership!!
(All other mechanical considerations being equal that is...)
😀
Really useful cheers: just bought a '58 plate 1.25 Zetec with pretty much no service history with 97k so need to check the timing belt. Thankfully, easy little car/engine to work in & around 😊
Very helpful! Just picked up a 2008 Fiesta Zetec 1.4 TDCi with 76k miles. No history of cambelt etc. Nice and easy way to see if needs doing. 😃👍🏾
A great video, I've just bought one of these, and wanted to know how to check, now I know with your help thanks
Just what I needed! Best video I’ve found!
Many thanks to you..I have a 2006 plate on 42000 miles..so useful to know.
very good and useful video. My Mondeo MK4 2007 has done about 130k, most likely the timing belt has never been changed. now i know how i can check it. thank you.
Thank you very much for your good explanation.
Nice one mate brilliant video
You are absolutely right. But take care while working on this stuff. Its a common problem with this Timing belts and Chains, not knowing if the have been changed, but don't forget that it is not only about the timing Belt, but also about the water pump and the tensioner. In my case I got Ford Fusion with the 1.4 TDCI engine which has 10 year o 250.000 km (150.000 miles) change interval.I hot the car for cheap with 200.000 km, and the prev. Owner said he changed it, but he has only an paper- offer from the mechanic, no invoice. I checked it like you did, and now I know that is has been changed, but not when. Car is from 2007, so I I figure I got 5 years left. If only everyone would write it on the damn engine: Miles and Date.
Thank you for the video. I have a 2006 Fiesta (identical to the one in the video) - bought it second hand in 2018 with just 39K miles on it - but no record of the belt ever being replaced. I have since driven it up to 80K miles and decided to take it to a garage to have the belt replaced regardless. It was all done in one day. The timing belt, the drive belt, water pump + coolant. Cost: £380 - so not cheap considering value of car - but had to be done as I intend to keep the car for another 2-3 years.
Very sensible. At least you’ve got peace of mind, and you can’t really put a price on that 👍
It's worth it for the piece of mind considering the cost of 2nd hand cars currently
I did what you did exact same car, the writing was orange, and to be honest I can't tell, how long does the writing stay on their @@lambsmotorworld2599
Great step by step guide for an idiot like me. Nicely presented with good tips👍
It’s fine that the belt looks good. I had a car that the belt looked great, then the bottom pulley spun and left the cams out by 180°. If I’d had it done it would have been sorted.
Great video. Your a life saver.
thanks. just bought a fiesta. written in service book belt was changed 20k ago but no garage stamp or anything. mine was a gates belt same as yours so i assume this must have been changed. thanks for the tip on how to check
Nice one pal, thanks a bunch.
@8.17, looks a good belt, the writing hasn't worn off which it does as the top runs on a pulley & wears it off, personally i would have got a socket on the crank pulley & done it by hand, shouldn't start the engine or have anything propping the cover open that is asking for trouble, also Ford recommend a belt change at 100,000 or 10 years, the garage trade recommend a belt to be changed at 50,000
Might another option have been to remove the fuel pump relay and crank the engine over until it won't start then take the cover off?
Well done!
Great video
Nice one really well explained...my fiestas make a sligh dull moan from that area all of a sudden. I'm just trying to suss out what's happening... Cheers
Thanks for your comment. I hope you can get to the bottom of your problem. Something to bear in mind is that noise travels. What I mean is, for example, the bearing in the tensioner that runs off the auxiliary belt might be faulty, but as the belt spins under pressure, it can transfer the noise, thereby making it sound like it’s coming from a different area. A quick way to try and establish where a noise might be coming from is to use a “listening stick”. Basically, get a stick that’s quite rigid and place it on various components in the area the noise is coming from, while the engine is running. Then put your ear to the other end and listen for obvious grumbles. You might then be able to tell where it’s coming from and avoid unnecessary expense. I hope this explanation makes sense?
Very nice video 👍 will check mine following your steps. Thanks.
Hope it works out for you in the way I intended. If you haven’t done so already, please also like 👍 the video and subscribe. I’m trying to develop the channel and these actions do make a difference to TH-cam. There are more videos to come
Had mine from 78k 4 years ago.. on 102k now. Definitely doing this tomorrow. Was told on purchase it was done.. what will an original be stamped up as?
could you do a video on the essential tools an amateur needs to carry out basic checks? I've been cheated so many times now in my area. Don't trust mechanics anymore
Good idear thanks
When belt was changed? Was it a kit or just belt changed? What about water pump? Fully respected your work! There is many things that people can fix and check around the car by themselves. Cost of repair s after timing issues are way above 300.
very useful
Have u got a video of how to change the Campbelt mate
I brought one too 😊 07 130 k .. ran like a bag of arse, there was full servuce history..! The air filter was og.. crumpled up like a dry lung..😮 and the fuel filter was OG as well ..! Put a k&n air filter in it and a new fuel filter now it sings Yeww.. but gotta check this bemt now😊
i got a 2006 2 door since new...never changed the belt...didnt know they had one
The advice here, although understandable, is wrong.
Ford themselves fit Gates Powergrip timing belts. They're listed on their official website.
They might do now, but I think it would have been less common for them to fit a third-party branded part in 2004/5. Can't be certain though. It does suggest that Gates is a good brand. That belt looks in good condition.
Hi, I'm looking for Catalytic converter for the same Ford Fiesta
Thanks for making the video, very useful! Do you know the service intervals for the cam belt?
Looking on line most places seem to suggest 10 years or 100000 miles, whichever comes first. But I’m a firm believer that the older a car gets the more frequently it should be serviced etc., so I would say reduce this interval to 75000 miles or 6 years
Thank you!
So if I understand cambelt on this engines (1.4 and 1.6 duratec) must ne change on 10years or 100Kkm?
My 2006 1.25 fiesta is 17 years old only done 44.5k miles I've never changed the cambelt yet so just shows you don't need to change things as often as they say it's all a money making con 😁
@@TheHell666yeahmiles not kilometres 100k miles that's around 160kms I think !!
What’s the usual mileage on these as to when it needs changing mate ?
When would you normally change these before 50k miles or nearer 80k or something?
I’m not entirely sure, but believe the interval is 5 years or 75k, whichever first
How does that prove anything? there is no proof of what mileage that belt has done
What is the point of inspecting the cambelt .they are changed at time or milage intervals. If it has reached one of these intervals it needs changing regardless of what it looks like .
Wrong ! My fiesta is 17 years old, has done around 44k miles and I've not changed the cambelt yet! it's all a money making con really change this or that after so many miles or within a year just to get your 💰
What Fiesta Timing Belt Would You Recommend?
There’s a number of manufacturers that make belts to fit most cars. Dunlop, Gates, Goodyear are just a few. Your local Motor Factor / Car Parts store would be able to advise
How do you check the timing on this engine?
Sorry I don’t know the answer to that. I’m not a qualified mechanic. Just someone that has a degree of mechanical knowledge and isn’t afraid to have a go. What I do know, I share with fellow novices. If I were to hazard a guess, I’d say that if you have access to a strobe light and know what the timing should be, with the cam belt cover removed and the engine turning over, you may be able to measure the timing that way? But that really is a guess. I hope you find the answer you need
How do I know if I still got the original belt? It says Ford or something similar?
An aftermarket belt will be branded with a name like Gates / Dunlop / Goodyear / or something like that
You know the tensioner is more likely to fail than the belt?
You really shouldn't be doing this, and by the way, as a mechanic of 20 years myself, you would never get a reputable mechanic to "Check" a Cambelt
Why shouldn't he be doing it?
@@quantuminfinity601 Advising other people to "check" a Cambelt, its ludicrously bad practice
I was thinking the same, also there is no idea of the mileage it's done
For anybody watching this, this is the incorrect way to check a timing belt. The backside of the belt makes contact with nothing other than a couple of pulleys. So doesn’t matter if it looks new.
The important and integral part to check is the inside of the belt teeth, as they get worn and eventually slip on the cam pulleys. General rule of thumb is, replace a timing belt if your car is 100k miles. Most belts last thing long.
Nice info ! My fiesta 2006 studio only done around 44k miles so not much in 17 years never changed the cambelt yet just shows it's all a money making con change this or that every year or x amount of miles proper con ain't it lol