@@kevinhill242 I've heard from Dad and a couple others that these little short-wing, short-coupled Pipers tend to really drop when the power is cut on landing approaches. Not much of a glider like their counterpart Cessnas.
I learned the basics in a Tri-Pacer. My Dad had one in the mid-50's. I missed it when he upgraded to a V-35B Bonanza. While in college in the '70's I had a friend with a Colt. Just a Tri-Pacer with a name change. He used to let me fly it. I was his A&P mechanic.
Southbridge MA! Nice video, brought back a lot of memories. Back in the nineties, I was taking lessons at Spencer Airport- Skyhawk 560Z. I will forever remember that time and my first solo (s).
Had 5 different tri pacers, converted 2 to 22/20s, good old planes. Eddie Trimmer is the super pacer man in Willow Alaska, 180hp, extended flaps, fuselage, and wings, 2 18 gal tanks each wing, cub tail feathers. They are a monster performer.
..Loved this short video! Excellent time for a nice puddle-jump flight! You are a lucky young man! Beautiful vintage airplane! My gifts time ever up in a small plane, or any plane, was in a '54 Tri-Pacer. in Oct '55. What an exhilarating experience!! Find for sharing!
Love the curved rear window of the earlier PA22's. I have three, but they're all 56 models and newer. Oh, yeah, they're not the slowest airplane around, but they're not exactly SR71s, either.
Yes, the one we flew down to here in from NYC also had that hyperbolic curved rear cabin window. Recall us cruising along at about 110-115mph, flying the airways down our Eastern Seaboard..What an exerience! The only other Piper aircraft I flew in as a r. seat passenger was an Apache, also out of LaGuardia, about 1962..
My dad had an identical Tri-Pacer he flew out of Michigan in the late 60's. It swallowed a valve over Sudbury Ontario, but got them to the airport safe.
First general aviation flight was in one of these. 1hr 15 minutes from Winnipeg to Grand Forks. What an experience for 14 year old many years ago. Just cemented in me i wanted to fly.
I also had a 55 tripacer. N2959P. back in 1972, 90 hrs SMOH, new cover and paint. Original interior. I love her. Paid $4000.00 but had to sell her one year later for $4500. I rented airplanes after that for another year. 5 years later I became a helicopter pilot, and retired with 10,000 hrs. never flew fixed wing again. However I missed that trypacer !!
I once rode "right seat" in a Tri-Pacer on a flight where we covered exactly 281 "air miles" in exactly 1 hour 55 minutes! Of course we had a bit of help from a tail wind ! So, not actually as "Slow" as you might think! Cheers 🍻 😊
Nice aircraft. Got hooked on flying in one long time ago. Used to fit 4 big guys in it and land on beaches, unprepared runways, virtually anywhere. Still lives on in Australia as serial 22-4510. Was never mine.
Remember these being imported to the UK through my local airfield when I was a youngster. If it still carries its original registration any Piper with a G-AP??? or G-AR??? registration through Kidlington. Happy days.
I remember my dad showing us that plane which when in a stall situation it could appear you were still climbing. Kind of a stable stall optical illusion.
Hi Kevin. I literally stumbled upon your video quite by accident. Awesome my friend, hope someday I see a video of you flying a nice old rotary in the Alaska bush country. See ya soon! Hank
Very nice job. Impressed with your taking advantage of the sunlight and great choices for the 360. Good work. One of the first planes I ever rode in was a TP. I was about 13. I now fly a 46 Ercoupe.
@@kevinhill242 It is awesome. Windows open. Cruise at 106 and 4 GPH. Mine has been totally restored with every STC available other than rudder which I refuse to do. I’ve flown every JP airplane out there when working, but this is JUST fun! I love it. Mine is in Army Air Corp colors, with custom noseart by the famous John Stahr. Can send a photo if you want. I think I share similar performance with the TP actually. We have some Tripacers on field here as well. A good dependable and solid airplane.
I had a friend with a tripacer and if I could buy a plane again that’s what it would be. 4 people into ungodly short strips and out again. Not fast but the fun of flying is the journey!
Not only was it slow but it had a glide ratio of a rock. I know because of being in one when the engine quit after a very short altitude gain. I guess not high enough to turn around, just straight forward into a ravine bank. I survived but the instructor did not.
MY parents owned a C-140, my dad a second one later in life, and neither was fond of the Tripacer for some reason, something about how it handled. It may simply have been a Ford versus Chevy thing, I don't know.
I am also a pilot of significant mass, how comfortable is the cabin solo? And with a pax or two? I've been interested in the short wing pipers for awhile now. Never got a chance to fly one tho.
I’m 6’2” and I’m a big guy all around. The cabin solo is very comfortable. I find I have a lot of leg room. I do have a hand brake instead of toe brakes so I’m sure this allows for more leg room. I’ve only ever carried 1 pax at a time as the back seats are quite small and uncomfortable. I’m sure I could replace the seats and it would make things better, but the leg room in the back is small. I’m sure if you had kids they would fit fine in the back, but for now it’s my go to storage area.
Kevin, I definitely enjoyed this video. I'd like to use a couple of screen in an upcoming video of mine. I will of course link to your channel. Is that cool with you?
..Ill keep this short..My very first time up in any airplane was in Oct 1955, when my dad, a corporate pilot flying Twin Beech 18s out of NYC/LaGuardia, borrowed a '54 Tri-Pacer w/ the 135hp 4-cyl Lycoming engine, to fly from N.Y. down here to Philadelphia, MS to visit his relatives on his badly needed vacation! We were pulled out of school for 2 wks. Was,one of the coolest, memorable, educational experiences I ever had! Recall him operating a metal crank in the head panel betw the front seats..he told me that was the elevator trim tab operating crank. Had no rudder pedal toe brakes, but a s-shaped stick lever under the l. side instrument panel, that actuated the little main gear brakes. I was 6 yrs old, bro was 5, Mom & Dad in late 30's.Slow, noisy airplane. Reeked of 87oct avgas! Never flew in one since. Flew, learned, piloted, did time in Cessna 152s, 172s till I quit flying in the 1980's. That's my long/short story!! Thnx!
I use the NFlight exterior ball head mount, which I attach into the light bracket on the wing! Works like a charm and you can play around with the angles. I use a GoPro hero 8 to film with, and with the camera turned sideways for that angle I have never had an issue with bugs getting on the lens. Hope that helps you!
I would take a pacer over a 172 any day of the week. Stop at the fuel pump. There will always be someone wanting to chat. Pull Up in a 172 and your asked what club you belong to?
Give me a tripacer over a 172 any day. Pull up to the fuel pump in the tripacer and all of a sudden you have some new friends. Pull up to the fuel pump in a 172 and your asked what club do you belong to?
It's really not all that slow. The aircraft manual true airspeed chart shows 132 Kts TAS at 7000 feet. I have found that is pretty accurate when flying my Tri Pacer.
Thanks for watching Raymond! I enjoyed my video with my music choice personally, but next time I’ll check in with you to see if it’s good enough music for you too ya boomer!! P.S. I’m not a millennial
Not sure what to tell you Melvin, but you need better taste in music my friend if you think that’s ‘crappy rock music’. Make your own flying video with your own music next time
It looks like the nose is slightly raised during straight and level flight. This will bleed off a lot of speed. Initial twsting revealed 77 MPH, Once I got things straightened out I got 107 MPH Nominal cruise. ...But I'm a Piddler!
That landing was pure butter 🧈
Thanks buddy!
@@kevinhill242 I've heard from Dad and a couple others that these little short-wing, short-coupled Pipers tend to really drop when the power is cut on landing approaches. Not much of a glider like their counterpart Cessnas.
Love it. Miss it. Maybe 25 yrs back already, had 5812d out of Grant Miichigan.
I learned the basics in a Tri-Pacer. My Dad had one in the mid-50's. I missed it when he upgraded to a V-35B Bonanza. While in college in the '70's I had a friend with a Colt. Just a Tri-Pacer with a name change. He used to let me fly it. I was his A&P mechanic.
The Tri-pacer sure is a dream to fly! The bonanza must have been a blast!
I had a Colt also. The colt had no flaps.
@@markstillwagon4601 correct me if I am wrong, but the colt only has 2 seats
@@kevinhill242 that is correct
Also no inter connect between ailerons and rudder
This brings back so, so, many, fond memories!!!!
Tripacers have a unique classic beauty to them.
Southbridge MA! Nice video, brought back a lot of memories. Back in the nineties, I was taking lessons at Spencer Airport- Skyhawk 560Z. I will forever remember that time and my first solo (s).
Wooow I made a model of one of these when I was a kid. It was bright yellow with red stripes, nice to see one still flying! 👍
Me too. My first model Airplane
@@jackallison7540 Yep, that's where all the trouble started. LOL
Had 5 different tri pacers, converted 2 to 22/20s, good old planes. Eddie Trimmer is the super pacer man in Willow Alaska, 180hp, extended flaps, fuselage, and wings, 2 18 gal tanks each wing, cub tail feathers. They are a monster performer.
That does sound like a monster performer. When I was living in alaska I saw a few on floats and I’ve always wanted to get this converted over!
Great memories learning to fly in the pa 22 with my dad from Allen Airport..now a GM plant! (1964)
Ahhh, one of my favorite maneuvers... turns around a boat 👍😎. Nice edit, thanks for sharing!!
Thanks!
..Loved this short video! Excellent time for a nice puddle-jump flight! You are a lucky young man! Beautiful vintage airplane! My gifts time ever up in a small plane, or any plane, was in a '54 Tri-Pacer. in Oct '55. What an exhilarating experience!! Find for sharing!
Love the curved rear window of the earlier PA22's. I have three, but they're all 56 models and newer. Oh, yeah, they're not the slowest airplane around, but they're not exactly SR71s, either.
Yes, the one we flew down to here in from NYC also had that hyperbolic curved rear cabin window. Recall us cruising along at about 110-115mph, flying the airways down our Eastern Seaboard..What an exerience! The only other Piper aircraft I flew in as a r. seat passenger was an Apache, also out of LaGuardia, about 1962..
But still achieve the joy of flight so nothing to complain about.
My dad had an identical Tri-Pacer he flew out of Michigan in the late 60's. It swallowed a valve over Sudbury Ontario, but got them to the airport safe.
glad they made it down safe, short wing pipers don't like to glide like a c172 does!
Brought me back to the late 60s when I use to fly around with dad in his tripper. Nice flight bro 👍😎✌
Great memories come from these planes!
First general aviation flight was in one of these. 1hr 15 minutes from Winnipeg to Grand Forks. What an experience for 14 year old many years ago. Just cemented in me i wanted to fly.
Nice edit! Perfect lighting... and landing. Greased it on.
Thanks!! Definitely try for them all to be that smooth!
I also had a 55 tripacer. N2959P. back in 1972, 90 hrs SMOH, new cover and paint. Original interior. I love her. Paid $4000.00 but had to sell her one year later for $4500. I rented airplanes after that for another year. 5 years later I became a helicopter pilot, and retired with 10,000 hrs. never flew fixed wing again. However I missed that trypacer !!
Nice, just found your channel and happy I did. I loved my tri pacer.
Glad you found it! More tripacer videos coming out real soon!!
I once rode "right seat" in a Tri-Pacer on a flight where we covered exactly 281 "air miles" in exactly 1 hour 55 minutes! Of course we had a bit of help from a tail wind !
So, not actually as "Slow" as you might think!
Cheers 🍻 😊
Thanks for the ride.
Sweet video and a lovely aircraft!
Nice aircraft. Got hooked on flying in one long time ago. Used to fit 4 big guys in it and land on beaches, unprepared runways, virtually anywhere. Still lives on in Australia as serial 22-4510. Was never mine.
4 big guys is pushing it to the limit, but sure is some fun!
Remember these being imported to the UK through my local airfield when I was a youngster. If it still carries its original registration any Piper with a G-AP??? or G-AR??? registration through Kidlington. Happy days.
My A&P/IA found a direct replacement for my overhead light dome lens this last annual.
Beautiful plane
I remember my dad showing us that plane which when in a stall situation it could appear you were still climbing. Kind of a stable stall optical illusion.
Definitely a different stall than what most people are used to in a 172!
Hi Kevin. I literally stumbled upon your video quite by accident. Awesome my friend, hope someday I see a video of you flying a nice old rotary in the Alaska bush country. See ya soon!
Hank
Hank, I'm glad you came across this! That's still the dream to be flying a beaver around Alaska!
Very nice job. Impressed with your taking advantage of the sunlight and great choices for the 360. Good work. One of the first planes I ever rode in was a TP. I was about 13. I now fly a 46 Ercoupe.
Thanks! Now an Ercoupe is a plane you don't see every day, that must be an awesome bird to fly
@@kevinhill242
It is awesome. Windows open. Cruise at 106 and 4 GPH. Mine has been totally restored with every STC available other than rudder which I refuse to do. I’ve flown every JP airplane out there when working, but this is JUST fun! I love it. Mine is in Army Air Corp colors, with custom noseart by the famous John Stahr. Can send a photo if you want. I think I share similar performance with the TP actually. We have some Tripacers on field here as well. A good dependable and solid airplane.
@@joewilliams5072 that’s one thing I would love is to have a window open while flying. That would be awesome to see the plane
Let me know where and I will send some pics.
@@joewilliams4142 you can add me on Facebook if you have it, and private message me there!
I got to fly in my uncle's Tripacer one time before he crashed it.
So gas ❗️✈️
I had a friend with a tripacer and if I could buy a plane again that’s what it would be. 4 people into ungodly short strips and out again. Not fast but the fun of flying is the journey!
I am glad you corrected that!
Very underated planes, the 160 will outperform the C-172
Love the simple paint job on your Tri-Pacer ... curiuos how you attached the wing-tip camera?
I use an exterior ball-head mount from nflightcam! it attaches to the landing light bracket on the wing.
You are living my dream
Not only was it slow but it had a glide ratio of a rock. I know because of being in one when the engine quit after a very short altitude gain. I guess not high enough to turn around, just straight forward into a ravine bank. I survived but the instructor did not.
You haven’t flown slow until you’ve flown an Aeronca Chief. 45 hp will barely get you aloft. After that, my dads Colt was Secretariat.
45hp chief ??
MY parents owned a C-140, my dad a second one later in life, and neither was fond of the Tripacer for some reason, something about how it handled. It may simply have been a Ford versus Chevy thing, I don't know.
I am also a pilot of significant mass, how comfortable is the cabin solo? And with a pax or two? I've been interested in the short wing pipers for awhile now. Never got a chance to fly one tho.
I’m 6’2” and I’m a big guy all around. The cabin solo is very comfortable. I find I have a lot of leg room. I do have a hand brake instead of toe brakes so I’m sure this allows for more leg room. I’ve only ever carried 1 pax at a time as the back seats are quite small and uncomfortable. I’m sure I could replace the seats and it would make things better, but the leg room in the back is small. I’m sure if you had kids they would fit fine in the back, but for now it’s my go to storage area.
Kevin, I definitely enjoyed this video. I'd like to use a couple of screen in an upcoming video of mine. I will of course link to your channel. Is that cool with you?
Hi Cory, I sent you an email!
..Ill keep this short..My very first time up in any airplane was in Oct 1955, when my dad, a corporate pilot flying Twin Beech 18s out of NYC/LaGuardia, borrowed a '54 Tri-Pacer w/ the 135hp 4-cyl Lycoming engine, to fly from N.Y. down here to Philadelphia, MS to visit his relatives on his badly needed vacation! We were pulled out of school for 2 wks. Was,one of the coolest, memorable, educational experiences I ever had! Recall him operating a metal crank in the head panel betw the front seats..he told me that was the elevator trim tab operating crank. Had no rudder pedal toe brakes, but a s-shaped stick lever under the l. side instrument panel, that actuated the little main gear brakes. I was 6 yrs old, bro was 5, Mom & Dad in late 30's.Slow, noisy airplane. Reeked of 87oct avgas! Never flew in one since. Flew, learned, piloted, did time in Cessna 152s, 172s till I quit flying in the 1980's. That's my long/short story!! Thnx!
The gliding brick. 😜
The most accurate way to explain its flight characteristics
This and the colt were the toughest student planes.
Back in the day one of these cost about 3 grand.
That was nice. You sure greased that landing. Thanks for the ride. Cool tune, what is it?
Thanks James! The song is Light Me Up by Bronze Radio Return
@@kevinhill242 Thank you Mr. Hill. New subscriber.
The Tri Pacer was the first model Airplane I ever made. First of many.
Bang on the centerline
Southbridge was a favorite of mine during training, out of Sfz..
north central is a fun one to fly into!
I’m blasting my pa-22 frame hopefully this weekend., do you have a local mechanic that is familiar with the short wings in this area..?
@@ryanhogan6509 I recommend mike DuPont with American aero services out of taunton airport KTAN. They are awesome with older aircraft!
What makes the nose wheel rotate in reverse while in flight...
Love to see how you have your camera attached to the wing outside of the strut?
It's a bracket that attaches to the landing light! Gives a better view of the plane than if I had it attached to the strut.
@@kevinhill242 would you mind sharing that bracket?
@@SheldonSemon its an exterior ball-head mount by Nflightcam. All the mounts I have by them are worth their weight in gold!
@@kevinhill242 thank you
Enjoyed the video, I have the same plane and i was wondering what camera yuo use and how do you mount it? i am wanting to record some of my flights
I use the NFlight exterior ball head mount, which I attach into the light bracket on the wing! Works like a charm and you can play around with the angles. I use a GoPro hero 8 to film with, and with the camera turned sideways for that angle I have never had an issue with bugs getting on the lens. Hope that helps you!
@@kevinhill242 Thank you, really appreciate the reply
Hos about some general specs of your plan and why you own it?
Great idea, I’ll try to make that in the coming weeks!
The starter on mine does that, too.
its a struggle sometimes
@@kevinhill242 Mine's in for its first annual under my stewardship; we'll see what the A&P has to say.
Had 2 both 150 hp, nothing slow about either one...my opinion is that it is an affordable airplane.
I would take a pacer over a 172 any day of the week. Stop at the fuel pump. There will always be someone wanting to chat. Pull
Up in a 172 and your asked what club you belong to?
How long have you owned your Tri-Pacer? I just got my 1953 Tri-Pacer flying. Greetings from Toronto, Canada.
I've owned it for almost a year now! Enjoy yours, they are a blast to fly!
It will do anything a Skyhawk will.
I want to buy one later on
Tripacers are a great plane to own
Give me a tripacer over a 172 any day.
Pull up to the fuel pump in the tripacer and all of a sudden you have some new friends. Pull up to the fuel pump in a 172 and your asked what club do you belong to?
(Sung to the tune of 'Ghost Riders in the Sky):
Volks-wa-gon of the skyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
Why do most pilots sound like they are literally bored to death or are getting into bed when they talk to the tower.
Got my ticket in a ‘55 TriPacer: N2623P
It's really not all that slow. The aircraft manual true airspeed chart shows 132 Kts TAS at 7000 feet. I have found that is pretty accurate when flying my Tri Pacer.
Certainly not slow at all. It’s just a title to grab your attention.
@@kevinhill242 Hey it worked ! LoL
i want to be a pilot
A 150 hp TriPacer will outrun a C172.
Different I could have done without that music
Don't know why new channels think music is necessary. Ruins the video. We much prefer engine noise and narration.
I know of slower planes around bud😉
Oh there definitely are plenty slower planes out there, but the title got you to click and watch the video😉
Why do Millennials always feel the need to garbage up a video with their music?
Thanks for watching Raymond! I enjoyed my video with my music choice personally, but next time I’ll check in with you to see if it’s good enough music for you too ya boomer!! P.S. I’m not a millennial
As a PA 22-108 owner, I disagree, mine is slower
Its a clickbait title to draw your attention to the video. By all means its not the slowest airplane around as mentioned in the description.
@@kevinhill242 this was understood
Thumbs down for the music.
Nice plane, well done video, stupid music.
Just the music I enjoy, thank you though!
I'm sorry about the music
@@kevinhill242 I liked it too :)
WHERE IS IT WRITTEN THAT YOU NEED TO RUIN A LOVELY FLYING VIDEO WITH CRAPPY ROCK 'Music'!
Not sure what to tell you Melvin, but you need better taste in music my friend if you think that’s ‘crappy rock music’. Make your own flying video with your own music next time
It looks like the nose is slightly raised during straight and level flight. This will bleed off a lot of speed. Initial twsting revealed 77 MPH, Once I got things straightened out I got 107 MPH Nominal cruise. ...But I'm a Piddler!