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Weird thing is, Cioran was extremely funny and charming. There's a documentary about him on TH-cam and the old guy is adorable. Even when he says terrible things he's saying them in a playful, fun-loving way. Really, truly strange man.
He's not the only one. A lot of Romanians share this trait. They also share his disdain for his own people.. As for the humorous affinity, I'd argue the reason is one of our core philosophies, mockery of misery or "haz de necaz".
@@Lonaticus Ah, interesting...traits of a national character, eh? My country's history is deeply dark and tragic and, likewise, shares some of these traits. Spicy food and pitch black humor, that's us.
@@Undiddley Fatalism and Nihilism are extremely present in Romanian culture nowadays. Yet they are a subversion of our core ideals, which we have inherited from our ancestors, the Dacians. The Dacians saw death as a celebration of one's transition from this world. Christianity changed that perception and now death is seen as a cause for anxiety instead of celebration. So in that matter, in his disdain for Romanian Christian beliefs, Cioran is right. Yet, for all this, he fell for the honeytrap that is nihilism, even when he displayed a trait of our ancestors, mockery over misery.
Realism is often mistaken for strength. My grandfather said on his death bed, "I didn't think dying would be like this". He anticipated pain, but found no more than when he was living
Emmerich August As a whole Romania at the time probably had less development than parts of Asia. Keep in mind millions still lived in poverty, and as the video states, for much of his life he lived in poverty. You should not assume, just because some parts of Europe were developed, all of Europe was developed
@Emmerich August Bro, Rumania isn´t rich, just because it´s in Europe and they are white it doesn´t mean they are rich. In fact they are more or less as rich as Mexico or Brazil, and that´s now. 20 years ago they were as poor as Honduras.
The term depressed is so overused in media where everyone immediately identifies themselves as a depressed individual despite only feeling a bit lonely. It's really hard to determine who is who at this time. A much better solution to identify those is to come and see a therapist or something, not diagnosing ones self.
God left us unfinished, on purpose. Not because he wants to see us suffer in our imperfection but because he himself is too stupid to see imperfection from perfection. We are to god what the burning bowl of milk and cereal is to Homer, if Homer had the ego and confidence as a chef of Gordon Ramsay.
I read On The Heights Of Despair a few months ago. When I was really sad I 'd pick it up. It was really comforting. I remember reading one of the aphorisms and being moved to tears from how beautifully he wrote about melancholy.
as a german-romanian i once found a book in my fathers library, it was a coection of letters by cioran. Some time after i started researching him and while i can say i am more optimistic than he is and see far more ways in kindness, his works often make me feel less alone in my suffering, cioran wrote a lot on death and suicide but actually never saw suicide as a valid option, more of a thought to comfort oneself. In an interview he once stated that his works don't acurately describe him as he only writes during moments of total dispair. This video was great! Learned something new
As a romanian who spent his adolescence reading the entire work of Emil Cioran, I find this video ... innapropriate for someone who wants to find joy in modern philosophy. First of all, Cioran was, most of the time, a joker. He was propably the funniest philosopher that ever lived. Of course, a dark serious-minded sage at the top of the mountains will find his work as a silly pessimistic joke, but you should read him cum grano salis. Also, he was a good friend with Mircea Eliade (the greatest historian of religions, a fouvorite of Jordan Peterson tho), Eugen Ionesco, Samuel Beckett, Michaux and so on.... He wasn't really a far-right guy, but he really detested the reign of Carol II, writting "The Transfiguartion of Romania" which criticized the romanian people, being slightly inferior or very inferior in comparison with other nations (e.g. Bulgaria and Serbians had empires, Romania not). Later on, Carol II established a dictatorship. He shortly moved in Berlin for his studies. He praised Hitler for a better treatment in Germany, but he wasn't an antisemite, his best friend was a jew, burned at Auszchwitz. He wrote mostly for him, his books were most likely some attractive thougts for his friends, he never imagined that he would ever gain succes. Just to be clear, I did't wrote this thing in order to defend Cioran and my adolescence, I think just that he can change your life for the better if you find a shelter in his words. Most of those informations were took from his interviews and a book called "Mon pays". I doubt that you can find a translation in english.
with the recc "him cum grano salis" did you mean the book by Randall Garret? Asking cause I'm interdust in reading but wanna make sure that's the correct writing
As a romanian, we learn little or never about Cioran in school. But what i truly think about Cioran and his life is that even tho he despised his existance and the mediocrity of people around him driven by tasteless music and sex, he still managed to be more full of life than the others. His opinions fueled his rage and his words and thus made him more of a human than others. He was born in the same cold world that both me and you were born into, but it always reflected into who he was, making him still a better person to spend time with than the faceless dolls we pass each day
Humour is the only thing that makes your existence enjoyable. Instead of weeping over it just laugh defiantly at it and so rebel against the hipocrisy and mediocrity of it all. It is just funny. Make yourself meaning. Become who your trully are. But accept your reality. In our cas existence defines essence. No. Nothingness is the essence of existence and we can mold it into what we want it to be.
Facelessness is on you. You re taking to broad a look. Just like if you were saying there s nothing in a puddle or no animal life in a forest. Everyone has a face, just like everything becomes meaningless at a larger scale.
What I always believed is that people who are more sad and shy often prove to be more of a blast to hang around with. If someone is crippled or has features that difference him. life will always push him to be more open to others while living a life of solitude before he finds the right people. I just want to be sure I would have been a good friend to Cioran in life
This. I hate when people call Nietzsche a nihilist or a pessimist (this is literaly what I was taught in school). Heck, you can't even call him a misanthrope. Yes, he hated most people but that's because they're herd, and they're "tired of men" as he says in Genealogy of Morals.
Nietzsche is easily the most misunderstood philosopher of all time. The irony is that he's so misunderstood, that even for people who understand him, it's simply easier to use people's misunderstanding of him to connect with people and make a point, even if Nietzsche himself would argue the point he was making was quite to the contrary of what most people think of his philosophy. It's one of the rare learning tools that is wrong but still useful in its wrongness that a lesson can be taught.
@@SpiderMan-gf1lc He did not hate people he "hated" humanity as a social construct and he was fair enough to include himself into that. He openly loved life and in most of his works he expressed this manically. One could make a psychoanalytical counter-argument that his extremely pathetic (as in full of pathos) love for life (eternal return) was a coping mechanism because he was a very physically sick man (there is some truth to that). Nietzsche wanted to overcome human limits which he saw as cultural and ingrained into language. This is actually his biggest strength- remember he was primarily a philologist. I dont even understand why so many people get nietzsche wrong. He is pretty straight forward and even hyperbolic and repetitive because he did not want to be misunderstood. His life philosophy is exactly opposed to being cynical and vain but kind and hospitable yet assertive and individualistic. Schopenhauer was more of a straight up misanthrope. Nietzsche was just very direct and polemic or "cheeky" when he made fun of the human condition. He is actually really funny, I laughed multiple times reading his work. I do get the gloomy view people have of nietzsche though. Sometimes I really did not buy his love of life and he appeared desperate to me. Still love the guy, he has had a big influence on my life.
I've read a few of Cioran books. He can express some of the most nihilistic/dark ideas one can imagine with very beautiful prose. In his own way he loved life.
My old man was a paramedic. He said many people just before death were calm, understood, and had peace with their demise; understandably disturbed, but without panic or terror. Usually had concern for their family but otherwise just went with the current. Perhaps he could've enjoyed his life if he had this vantage point as a child.
The malnourished, hurt children in war-torn countties... i womder what's their option to react... I feel so lucky to have a home, but when I think about them i Feel, rather...inherently meaningless bound by shackles of "Failure is not an option" sort of judgemental process of where I live.
But in fragile vessels prone to such programmed loathing and harsh environments, while being born into such a loathsome and harsh world, most don’t have a easy option of deciding to be positive
@@allisonsmith9343 in a realm devoid of any truth because the reality of post modernity forces you to find these truths for yourself. You are left devoid of reason. In a state of existential nihilism devoid of any power to adhere to, you become this power and create reason for yourself. You do not find goodness but find what you need to continue living. A search was never meant to be easy but a search for a subjective intangible value depends only on an individuals ability to recieve thier responsibility to design thier own destination. We search for what we lack, find what we must, and create what we should.
I don’t understand what this means, but I also don’t care to. I think it’s a reference to a movie or television program, but I don’t plan to watch it. However, if it brings you joy, I am sincerely glad for it. 🙂
I honestly find Cioran's work incredibly funny to read, for the most part. It maybe not have been what he wanted but to me there's obviously some really dark sense of humour that permeates his writing. I find a lot of the stuff he writes hard to take seriously, almost satirical of philosophy, but in some others he really nails it. An interesting man, nonetheless, even funnier that he lived 84 years, imagine his contempt.
I read Cioran's A Short History of Decay after watching The School Of Life's video on him, and I wonder whether that channel falls into the trap of romanticising depression. Alain De Botton always has to squeeze a positive out of everything but sometimes thinking isn't meant to be a feel good exercise
I mean tbf wanting to have someone to share your depressive and pessimistic ideas with does seem pretty enticing and that seems to be the positive that Alain de Botton wants us to take away. but tbf being in a community of pessimists (especially one that is full of the types of pessimists that would rather laugh at life's expense rather than wallow in their misery like Cioran) is definitely a slippery slope, but misery loves company, I guess.
im always so concerned about these mental prisons. makes it so hard to operate without exploding into tears of despair. whether its pursuing a metaphysical existence or finally resting its just hard. i just want peace.
I've read maybe 6 Cioran titles. I won't wax on about astounding brilliance of his insights into despair and worthlessness, however, I will say that the more I read him, the more he makes me smile :)
There's a definite spiritual tinge, besides buddhist influences, where suffering is seen as producing great metamorphoses and the most valuable metaphysical revelations.
Thank you for this, it’s eye opening since my ego was sensitive. I was in 10th grade making beats and starting up as a producer, your music won’t be so great most of the time till you find yourself as an artists, so the feedback id get would vary making music and for some reason everytime someone didn’t like the music, I could sense if they’re being genuine or not, and this would hurt my ego. I’d start thinking my music is bad, and I kept this state of mind till 2 years later. Growing as a producer I started to get better and many people told me some songs were really good, but still the ones who didn’t like my music would still hurt my ego and I’d stop music from time to time cuz of that. Idk I always felt like I needed society’s approval, and I tell myself I don’t but I still get sucked up in that state of mind, this video was very informative and thank you cuz it helped me see how to take things and to not put myself on to high expectations. I can’t please everyone and thank u for making me realize this
Oh my god, I’m so glad I just discovered your channel on accident! I love philosophy (especially the darker sides of it) but often I’m too lazy to read into it, because most books about the subject are written way too complicated for my intellect, but you found such a great balance between explaining everything in an understandable and interesting way. Keep it up man!
3:26 was he talking about the woman's soul bearing a corpse ready to die, or is he talking about the woman's womb bearing a "corpse" or we call them, babies.
Sometimes I wonder if guys like this ever had subjective fun in life. Philosophy is cool and thinking about the abyss is great and all when you're alone, but if you've ever had just a day around friends or people you enjoy being around then its hard, nearly impossible to keep this kind of mindset 24/7. Sure we may be temporary in the vast expanse of infinity, but I'd rather enjoy my short time on this planet then be a total bummer to everyone I'm around.
Maybe this man didn't have friends and spent the majority of his time reading/learning/and writing philosophy. I had a professor at my college like this, he spent all day just doing philosophy. But what sounds fun is if you have friends that also like philosophy and you can talk with them about it.
@@JonathanOvetskiy Cioran was actually described by his friends as a really funny guy, despite his pessimistic philosophy. He even saved one of his best friends (Eugene Ionesco) from suicide.
Toured Romania a couple years ago and loved it . The country is beautiful ,it's history is fascinating , the food was great , the friendly people are descendants of the many nations , original and invaders from all directions . It is certainly understandable how its social\political turmoil over the century's could cause an intelligent sensitive artist enough sturm und drang . I'm optimistic about the future of Dacia and have many treasured memories of the people , multi-culture ,historic sites and countryside .
I’m probably odd in that I found many of his thoughts supremely hilarious, but then again you did mention his humorous aspects. I think he’s right about much, but was missing some of the keys that Camus discovered about living it up despite the fact that it might not have permanent meaning or grand purpose. That, and curtailing one’s hedonism just enough not to cause misery to loved ones, is my answer to the problem of existence! Come what may, devil may care, see yourself as the heroic character who falls flat on his ass to humiliating waves of laughter, gets up, and joins right in with sincerity. It’s all just a dream, right? See you, space cowboy. You’re gonna carry that weight.
Awareness of suffering alone doesn't improve one's mentality. There is a diffrence between accepting one's suffering to move beyondi it, and seeing nothing but misery as the only possibility life has to offer.
If you want a bit more detailed introduction to Cioran, I'd recommend listening to the 2 episodes that my boy Stephen West from the "Philosophize this" podcast made on him. He makes quite a comforting argument as to how much of Cioran's writing can be underrstood as an affirmation of life - really liked it.
He wasn't the scariest philosopher he was he could just see the absurdity of the world we lived in and he called it out he basically embodied the terror management theory
@@thegrandnil764 kind of yes to any logical person I can explain how absurd this world is but not every sees things the same in short were all living just to die every thing in the universe will die including the universe itself so isn't it kinda crazy that we all still so much pointless blood shed war even morals and preservation of life is kinda pointless
@@paul-ye3ut Well I disagree whole heatedly, all these cinical phliosophies rely on nothing but internal intuituition. I'm a very happy person and my life is amazing, so not only do these phliosophies seem kinda just edgy doomer shit, its almost hard to take it as anything more then people stating "I am depressed" through phliosophy.
@@thegrandnil764, well it's not really internal intuition, it's more like a different perspective towards life. Like, if you look at it, life is absurd. What makes it that people have to suffer, and others have great lives like you? And just the meaningless of it all, that no matter what, someday, anything you ever did, accomplish, will be gone, not even memories of it will be left. This is how absurd life is, but that's only my perspective on it. Like this philosopher, who just saw life as a mistake instead of a gift for others. We have all our views on life, and that's the beauty of philosophy.
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Quit drinking 5years ago, and my life has found a new spirit, im glad I don't have children for this idea of life. I don't like people or how the world works. But I'm here and will endure this hell. I will make the best of what I have and be grateful I came to a understanding. I give my pets all my love and I get it back when I look into their eyes. Just because I don't like the world around me doesn't mean I have to be a monster or with out cause. Try to enjoy life and take each experience as a stepping stone to where you are going. Reality is Perspective.
what i wonder is what he was waiting for in order to give up. was the only the thing that kept from suicide the fear of a brief moment of pain? or what?
He was a fucking lame moron spouting "Life hard" "Life bad" "nuthin matters I'm just gonna die" like a fucking emo teenager. If he truly believed what he said he would have killed himself. He was an edge lord seeking attention.
"[...] expressing pessimism and misanthropy [...]" *shows picture of Nietzsche and Schopenhauer* Well, Schopenhauer for sure. But Nietzsche, most certainly not. Nietzsche was an optimist. Other than that, great video.
@@billybobarino So what most people commonly think of Nietzsche isn't what he himself wrote but what people took from his work or in a lot of cases - what his sister made of it after he died. She went to Argentinia to build a "new german people" there which probably tells you a lot. Most of what people connect from him to the facists of that time comes from that edit of his work, not his actual writings. Essentially Nietzsches early work recognized that Nihilism and especially its lack of answer is quite a bane and aside his many nervous breakdowns I'd say that his work denotes a opposition to it. Afterall he does support a pursue of passion in art, self ownership and ultimatically a struggle in life. To quote "Nihilism, any aim is lacking, any answer to the question why is lacking. What does nihilism mean? That the highest values devaluate themselfs" making it pointless to him, I'd argue. If you take a look at books published posthumous, like "Will to power" which many take to say Nietzsche was a nihilist was in fact edited by his facist sister. The earlier quote is also from said book, but if you put it more into line with his own work the takeaway is signficantly more positive than that. Obviously I'm also just someone that "takes" his work I hope this wasnt too hard to read, I'm german so quote translation may be a bit wonky. Kind regards!
What is failure if not the inability to live up to value, and so what is failure without that which values? Meaninglessness is at odds with failure, the ladder predicated on the falsity of the former. Failure is dead and we, our very existence, is it's corpse bearer.
What an excellent example of the horror of getting lost within one's own self-indulgent mindscape. If one's vision never takes one past our human self-centered egotist, it's no wonder he was lost his entire life. "When consciousness becomes independent of life." (6:47) That sentence reveals zero appreciation for life, consciousness, or Earth's pageant of evolution that we a fleeting part of. Just cause someone is called a "philosopher" doesn't mean their ideas are worth a damned.
This philosopher leads me to wonder, can you abuse depression as if it were a drug? Abusing it and or taken advantage of it to pursue knowledge of a different understanding? Miserable abuse maybe, but to each their own chemical. Pick your poison.
i got interested in philosophy during my highschool years and took up some of his books and started reading i started with on the heights of despair,one of my favourite books that ive ever read he wrote a lot about suicide and depression but always said that suicide is the cowards way out and it shouldnt be a valid option,or an option at all. i regret not marking my favourite quotes from his books because i wouldve shared them but reading his work felt unusually heartwarming,i felt like i wasnt alone in my misery,and oh what misery highschool brought. needless to say i quit reading philosophy soon after because i didnt have the mental capacity of understanding or reflecting on what was being said.
it almost made me cry that bit about him losing his cognitive ability but still being aware of it enough to tell someone that he wasn't who he appears to be anymore.
cheers to the man who realizes that everything is pointless but doesn't really care and keeps on doing his thing :) do what you like until you die, folks! that's my kind of nihilism. we all die one day. the secret is not to care.
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how is this comment 9 hours old if the video is only 10 minutes old, what is time, are we even real, does this even matter?
@@alexandredominish2249 private videos? Editing video before publication is pretty common
your starting to blow up my guy, well deserved! much love
Video posted 4 hours ago, but the comment was posted 13 hours ago?
@@JonkoJointson he was waiting for an ok from the sponser
"If I didn't write, I could have become an assassin. A book, is a suicide postponed."
- Cioran
Didn't even kill himself. As a romanian, I find this offensive.
RIP David Berman
Right? Mainländer was the real thing.
@Lee Ruan moron
He advocated failure, after all
@Lee Ruan aren't Lenin and Marx ethnically Jewish?
Weird thing is, Cioran was extremely funny and charming. There's a documentary about him on TH-cam and the old guy is adorable. Even when he says terrible things he's saying them in a playful, fun-loving way. Really, truly strange man.
a truly strange man after my own heart
Imma search now but if I don't find it, link
He's not the only one. A lot of Romanians share this trait. They also share his disdain for his own people..
As for the humorous affinity, I'd argue the reason is one of our core philosophies, mockery of misery or "haz de necaz".
@@Lonaticus Ah, interesting...traits of a national character, eh? My country's history is deeply dark and tragic and, likewise, shares some of these traits. Spicy food and pitch black humor, that's us.
@@Undiddley Fatalism and Nihilism are extremely present in Romanian culture nowadays. Yet they are a subversion of our core ideals, which we have inherited from our ancestors, the Dacians. The Dacians saw death as a celebration of one's transition from this world. Christianity changed that perception and now death is seen as a cause for anxiety instead of celebration.
So in that matter, in his disdain for Romanian Christian beliefs, Cioran is right. Yet, for all this, he fell for the honeytrap that is nihilism, even when he displayed a trait of our ancestors, mockery over misery.
ah yes, wanting to be anything but romanian, the universal romanian experience
all the romanians ive ever known wouldnt ever shut up about their heritage
@@rileyawesomsauce that doesn't mean they wanted to be romanians :))))
@@DdraigGoch84 Yeah, just like Argentina. We're a bunch of nationalists who despise our own country, ironically.
@Titus Monk "They hate their government and think of it as more of a criminal organisation..."
Why did you say "government" twice?
i've always wanted to create yt comment drama🥰
Realism is often mistaken for strength. My grandfather said on his death bed, "I didn't think dying would be like this". He anticipated pain, but found no more than when he was living
That's deep, holmes
🙏
kind of encouraging, actually.
🙏🏾🙏🏾
That’s actually pretty thought provoking. Thanks for sharing.
“Life is arbitrary and meaningless, but why do I have to be Romanian bro?? It’s not fair!”
Emmerich August As a whole Romania at the time probably had less development than parts of Asia. Keep in mind millions still lived in poverty, and as the video states, for much of his life he lived in poverty. You should not assume, just because some parts of Europe were developed, all of Europe was developed
Emmerich August No need to be uncivil
Emmerich August Plus it wasn’t immediately obvious. You assume I understand everything you meant
Emmerich August he probably would have rather been born in Africa to die of starvation
@Emmerich August Bro, Rumania isn´t rich, just because it´s in Europe and they are white it doesn´t mean they are rich. In fact they are more or less as rich as Mexico or Brazil, and that´s now. 20 years ago they were as poor as Honduras.
Cioran: "I wish I never was born"
Cioran's mum : "I agree"
@@QVUTDN he was fucking happy about it
People back in the day :wow what a depressing man hopefully he finds happiness
People now: what an edge lord lmao
Thats cause everybody is so called depressed that nobody takes it seriously anymore
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The term depressed is so overused in media where everyone immediately identifies themselves as a depressed individual despite only feeling a bit lonely. It's really hard to determine who is who at this time. A much better solution to identify those is to come and see a therapist or something, not diagnosing ones self.
@@TiffanyRay are people actually depressed or are they pretending to be
@@AntonConstanti some are some arent
"God is dead": boring, dumb, uncool
"God is an amateur craftsman": fresh, interesting, intellectual
next level play: God is an undead, unskilled idiot that doesn't even realize he created us.
@@TheSolitaryEye isn't that azathoth.
Even better: God is a corpse, as is being. And that's the explanation to entropy, as it is decomposing. Life is just a remnant. - Mainländer
God left us unfinished, on purpose. Not because he wants to see us suffer in our imperfection but because he himself is too stupid to see imperfection from perfection. We are to god what the burning bowl of milk and cereal is to Homer, if Homer had the ego and confidence as a chef of Gordon Ramsay.
What is god anyway?
It's sad how he was relieved when his mom told him that she should have aborted him. But I feel him too.
D K no, wtf.
She just hated that her son felt so bad. The statement had her love for him all over it.
@@Crazeyfor67 bruh no
I wish mine did. I'm not gonna kill myself at least not yet idk. But i wish i never existed
@@Gigachad-mc5qz Life will get better. Hang in there
This guys philosophy is that God got an F on his project he was making for life creation class.
I'd like to think god is just really proud of his little shitty creations
pretty much. But God keeps creating. May have gotten an F now, but id say we are at B- currently
@@childnoirr WHO SAID WE’RE BETTER NOW
@@hiphiphoogray me said 😭
*a F
But who is the thiccest philosopher of all time?
Ham Grenade that’s you
Cardi B, ofc
Hericlitus?
Easily Sartre
By "thiccest" do you mean physically large, philosophically deep, or intellectually inept?
You forgot the most spooky part: He was friends with the grave keeper, as a child he played football (soccer) with human skulls.
Goth icon
But did he play what UK says football means or what US says football means.
@@josefmuller86 UK football
@@josefmuller86 American Football, to the point I know, only exists in the USA, in other countries they play rugby.
@@josefmuller86 American Football, to the point I know, only exists in the USA, in other countries they play rugby.
I read On The Heights Of Despair a few months ago. When I was really sad I 'd pick it up. It was really comforting. I remember reading one of the aphorisms and being moved to tears from how beautifully he wrote about melancholy.
as a german-romanian i once found a book in my fathers library, it was a coection of letters by cioran. Some time after i started researching him and while i can say i am more optimistic than he is and see far more ways in kindness, his works often make me feel less alone in my suffering, cioran wrote a lot on death and suicide but actually never saw suicide as a valid option, more of a thought to comfort oneself. In an interview he once stated that his works don't acurately describe him as he only writes during moments of total dispair.
This video was great! Learned something new
"Life is a failure of taste which neither death nor poetry succeeds in correcting." MUAH!!! Thats beautiful
Lol Dude refuted his own sentence with the sentence he refuted.
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and expressvpn
Just use sponsorblock and you'll never see those shit sponsors ever again.
Forgot the manscaping stuff as well
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They gotta get paid, so what to be done
The scariest philosopher is that 19 year old edgy philosopher in everyone at one point.
I'm 19 and I've been thinking about these kinds of things a lot lately. Your comment resonates with me for some reason
Erik the God Eating Penguin
Because I am you *takes of the hood*
same
InfinitiSin I was that when I was 15
@@erikthegodeatingpenguin2335 the next step is ovecoming the nihilism, and oh boy is fucking great.
If the people who use edgy anime profile pics on twitter or anywhere else has a CEO / final boss
This guy is definetely it
@Iron Ward Welp, that was idiotic. Off to hang myself, *_watch and lea-_*
calling the CEO of edgy
as a johan liebet avi on twitter, i will come forward and accept it
Well, it sure looks like you work for him
@@ryanteey8333 I can't believe you just made me say that
Sisyphus is just lofi philosophy
Edit:only saw this now that I have 1.7 likes thanks for the likes! 😂
@Dziordan1 sir or madam I can assure you it is of the utmost of compliments!
It depends if you like lofi or not
@@marie20092010 If you don't like lofi, I'd argue there's something wrong with you.
@@DarkAngelEU yes
I read that as syphilis when I was scanning through comments lol
As a romanian who spent his adolescence reading the entire work of Emil Cioran, I find this video ... innapropriate for someone who wants to find joy in modern philosophy.
First of all, Cioran was, most of the time, a joker. He was propably the funniest philosopher that ever lived. Of course, a dark serious-minded sage at the top of the mountains will find his work as a silly pessimistic joke, but you should read him cum grano salis.
Also, he was a good friend with Mircea Eliade (the greatest historian of religions, a fouvorite of Jordan Peterson tho), Eugen Ionesco, Samuel Beckett, Michaux and so on....
He wasn't really a far-right guy, but he really detested the reign of Carol II, writting "The Transfiguartion of Romania" which criticized the romanian people, being slightly inferior or very inferior in comparison with other nations (e.g. Bulgaria and Serbians had empires, Romania not). Later on, Carol II established a dictatorship. He shortly moved in Berlin for his studies. He praised Hitler for a better treatment in Germany, but he wasn't an antisemite, his best friend was a jew, burned at Auszchwitz.
He wrote mostly for him, his books were most likely some attractive thougts for his friends, he never imagined that he would ever gain succes.
Just to be clear, I did't wrote this thing in order to defend Cioran and my adolescence, I think just that he can change your life for the better if you find a shelter in his words. Most of those informations were took from his interviews and a book called "Mon pays". I doubt that you can find a translation in english.
Shut up and go practis honorisem
Thanks for this
with the recc "him cum grano salis" did you mean the book by Randall Garret? Asking cause I'm interdust in reading but wanna make sure that's the correct writing
@Dziordan1 pretty heavy adolescence.
@@ThisGuitarPlayerGuy "cum grano salis" is latin for "with a grain of salt"
As a romanian, we learn little or never about Cioran in school. But what i truly think about Cioran and his life is that even tho he despised his existance and the mediocrity of people around him driven by tasteless music and sex, he still managed to be more full of life than the others. His opinions fueled his rage and his words and thus made him more of a human than others. He was born in the same cold world that both me and you were born into, but it always reflected into who he was, making him still a better person to spend time with than the faceless dolls we pass each day
Humour is the only thing that makes your existence enjoyable. Instead of weeping over it just laugh defiantly at it and so rebel against the hipocrisy and mediocrity of it all. It is just funny. Make yourself meaning. Become who your trully are. But accept your reality. In our cas existence defines essence. No. Nothingness is the essence of existence and we can mold it into what we want it to be.
I learned to not despise the so called "dolls we pass each day" because is not their fault no to be able to reflect about their existence.
Facelessness is on you.
You re taking to broad a look.
Just like if you were saying there s nothing in a puddle or no animal life in a forest.
Everyone has a face, just like everything becomes meaningless at a larger scale.
@@reedy_9619 your not comprehending what there saying
What I always believed is that people who are more sad and shy often prove to be more of a blast to hang around with. If someone is crippled or has features that difference him. life will always push him to be more open to others while living a life of solitude before he finds the right people. I just want to be sure I would have been a good friend to Cioran in life
the scariest thing about this video was that random ass sponsor
Agreed
I love hisoka
Well...on your way through your guaranteed failures and down to your inevitable death, you can probably really use a good wallet!
I really thank you for taking a look in Cioran's life , being one of my most beloved philosophers , you've made my day.
It's strange to hear about philosophy I could have written if I were born 80 years sooner, maybe I should try writing before I die.
I owe Cioran a lot. I love his books. I recommend it to anyone who is looking for consolation in the most difficult times.
>talking about pessimism and a desire to never have been born
>shows a picture of Nietzsche
C'mon man
This. I hate when people call Nietzsche a nihilist or a pessimist (this is literaly what I was taught in school). Heck, you can't even call him a misanthrope. Yes, he hated most people but that's because they're herd, and they're "tired of men" as he says in Genealogy of Morals.
Nietzsche is easily the most misunderstood philosopher of all time. The irony is that he's so misunderstood, that even for people who understand him, it's simply easier to use people's misunderstanding of him to connect with people and make a point, even if Nietzsche himself would argue the point he was making was quite to the contrary of what most people think of his philosophy.
It's one of the rare learning tools that is wrong but still useful in its wrongness that a lesson can be taught.
@@SpiderMan-gf1lc He did not hate people he "hated" humanity as a social construct and he was fair enough to include himself into that. He openly loved life and in most of his works he expressed this manically. One could make a psychoanalytical counter-argument that his extremely pathetic (as in full of pathos) love for life (eternal return) was a coping mechanism because he was a very physically sick man (there is some truth to that). Nietzsche wanted to overcome human limits which he saw as cultural and ingrained into language. This is actually his biggest strength- remember he was primarily a philologist. I dont even understand why so many people get nietzsche wrong. He is pretty straight forward and even hyperbolic and repetitive because he did not want to be misunderstood. His life philosophy is exactly opposed to being cynical and vain but kind and hospitable yet assertive and individualistic. Schopenhauer was more of a straight up misanthrope. Nietzsche was just very direct and polemic or "cheeky" when he made fun of the human condition. He is actually really funny, I laughed multiple times reading his work. I do get the gloomy view people have of nietzsche though. Sometimes I really did not buy his love of life and he appeared desperate to me. Still love the guy, he has had a big influence on my life.
@@NoName-qi7vx uuuh... Okay? Idk why you're talking like I called Nietzsche a misanthrope or a gloomy philosopher when I did the exact opposite lol
@@SpiderMan-gf1lc I wrote that for myself mostly. Did not mean to argue against you. Just wanted to see if I can put my thoughts into words
Life is like junior soccer, you didn’t sign up and were made to do it by your mother
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"Is life our exile? And nothingness our home?" Is such a terrifyingly beautiful line. I love ot dearly
Я тоже
I've read a few of Cioran books. He can express some of the most nihilistic/dark ideas one can imagine with very beautiful prose. In his own way he loved life.
The dark red text on black background is difficult to read.
Change the brightness to the max...at least that's what I did.
Tzughy Dogg inefficient, waste of potential battery life.
@@sorrychangedmyusername3594 dude what a fuckin robotic response
Im colourblind
it doesnt matter
we all die
My old man was a paramedic. He said many people just before death were calm, understood, and had peace with their demise; understandably disturbed, but without panic or terror. Usually had concern for their family but otherwise just went with the current. Perhaps he could've enjoyed his life if he had this vantage point as a child.
"it has seriously changed my whole pocket situation". finally talking about the real issues in life
This is just Dark Stoicism. Being born is something that just happens and I have the option to how I react to it.
Daniel Kilpatrick Oh?
A very surface level way to look at it
The malnourished, hurt children in war-torn countties... i womder what's their option to react... I feel so lucky to have a home, but when I think about them i Feel, rather...inherently meaningless bound by shackles of "Failure is not an option" sort of judgemental process of where I live.
But in fragile vessels prone to such programmed loathing and harsh environments, while being born into such a loathsome and harsh world, most don’t have a easy option of deciding to be positive
@@allisonsmith9343 in a realm devoid of any truth because the reality of post modernity forces you to find these truths for yourself. You are left devoid of reason. In a state of existential nihilism devoid of any power to adhere to, you become this power and create reason for yourself. You do not find goodness but find what you need to continue living. A search was never meant to be easy but a search for a subjective intangible value depends only on an individuals ability to recieve thier responsibility to design thier own destination. We search for what we lack, find what we must, and create what we should.
"It's Cio Cio rabbit!"
I hear this in Yorki's voice.
Hahaha
It's not a good year to be a nazi
I don’t understand what this means, but I also don’t care to. I think it’s a reference to a movie or television program, but I don’t plan to watch it.
However, if it brings you joy, I am sincerely glad for it. 🙂
I honestly find Cioran's work incredibly funny to read, for the most part. It maybe not have been what he wanted but to me there's obviously some really dark sense of humour that permeates his writing. I find a lot of the stuff he writes hard to take seriously, almost satirical of philosophy, but in some others he really nails it. An interesting man, nonetheless, even funnier that he lived 84 years, imagine his contempt.
I read Cioran's A Short History of Decay after watching The School Of Life's video on him, and I wonder whether that channel falls into the trap of romanticising depression. Alain De Botton always has to squeeze a positive out of everything but sometimes thinking isn't meant to be a feel good exercise
I mean tbf wanting to have someone to share your depressive and pessimistic ideas with does seem pretty enticing and that seems to be the positive that Alain de Botton wants us to take away. but tbf being in a community of pessimists (especially one that is full of the types of pessimists that would rather laugh at life's expense rather than wallow in their misery like Cioran) is definitely a slippery slope, but misery loves company, I guess.
im always so concerned about these mental prisons. makes it so hard to operate without exploding into tears of despair. whether its pursuing a metaphysical existence or finally resting its just hard. i just want peace.
Emil Cioran in case anyone doesn't understand or know how it's spelt
thanks purple scholar !! :D
I've read maybe 6 Cioran titles. I won't wax on about astounding brilliance of his insights into despair and worthlessness, however, I will say that the more I read him, the more he makes me smile :)
There's a definite spiritual tinge, besides buddhist influences, where suffering is seen as producing great metamorphoses and the most valuable metaphysical revelations.
Thank you for this, it’s eye opening since my ego was sensitive. I was in 10th grade making beats and starting up as a producer, your music won’t be so great most of the time till you find yourself as an artists, so the feedback id get would vary making music and for some reason everytime someone didn’t like the music, I could sense if they’re being genuine or not, and this would hurt my ego. I’d start thinking my music is bad, and I kept this state of mind till 2 years later. Growing as a producer I started to get better and many people told me some songs were really good, but still the ones who didn’t like my music would still hurt my ego and I’d stop music from time to time cuz of that. Idk I always felt like I needed society’s approval, and I tell myself I don’t but I still get sucked up in that state of mind, this video was very informative and thank you cuz it helped me see how to take things and to not put myself on to high expectations. I can’t please everyone and thank u for making me realize this
seeing a mid-roll Arby’s ad during the video seemed oddly fitting
Lmao.
Oh my god, I’m so glad I just discovered your channel on accident! I love philosophy (especially the darker sides of it) but often I’m too lazy to read into it, because most books about the subject are written way too complicated for my intellect, but you found such a great balance between explaining everything in an understandable and interesting way. Keep it up man!
Do a profile of de Beauvoir!
wait is that one of those philosophers that signed to make pedophilia legal?
@@deepstariaenigmatica2601although this is a late response, yes she is. Among most of the French philosophers who lived at that time.
He's was just born Goth.
3:26 was he talking about the woman's soul bearing a corpse ready to die, or is he talking about the woman's womb bearing a "corpse" or we call them, babies.
I think the latter, but maybe both
..... I was born dead then resuscitated. XD
It's about how all humans are doomed to die eventually, and therefore the baby she carries is already a "corpse"
Yes
He is talking about the uncertainty part of a pregnancy. No idea, boy or girl/ dead or alive.
Sometimes I wonder if guys like this ever had subjective fun in life. Philosophy is cool and thinking about the abyss is great and all when you're alone, but if you've ever had just a day around friends or people you enjoy being around then its hard, nearly impossible to keep this kind of mindset 24/7. Sure we may be temporary in the vast expanse of infinity, but I'd rather enjoy my short time on this planet then be a total bummer to everyone I'm around.
Maybe this man didn't have friends and spent the majority of his time reading/learning/and writing philosophy. I had a professor at my college like this, he spent all day just doing philosophy. But what sounds fun is if you have friends that also like philosophy and you can talk with them about it.
@@JonathanOvetskiy Cioran was actually described by his friends as a really funny guy, despite his pessimistic philosophy. He even saved one of his best friends (Eugene Ionesco) from suicide.
Phliosophy is cringe, if your a phliosopher youve already failed
@@thegrandnil764 Like you failed English?
@@memitim171 chad live in a cabin in the woods
I used to be Cioran. I still am, but I used to, too
rip hedberg
Lol
You used to be Cioran. Now you are Cioran with Alzheimer's
Toured Romania a couple years ago and loved it . The country is beautiful ,it's history is fascinating , the food was great , the friendly people are descendants of the many nations , original and invaders from all directions . It is certainly understandable how its social\political turmoil over the century's could cause an intelligent sensitive artist enough sturm und drang . I'm optimistic about the future of Dacia and have many treasured memories of the people , multi-culture ,historic sites and countryside .
The future of Dacia became brighter at the point that it was bought by Renault.
@@alexverdigris9939
Those evil evil Renaultians
This kind of way of thinking is fantastic. This is probably the most motivational video I have ever seen on TH-cam.
I’m probably odd in that I found many of his thoughts supremely hilarious, but then again you did mention his humorous aspects. I think he’s right about much, but was missing some of the keys that Camus discovered about living it up despite the fact that it might not have permanent meaning or grand purpose. That, and curtailing one’s hedonism just enough not to cause misery to loved ones, is my answer to the problem of existence! Come what may, devil may care, see yourself as the heroic character who falls flat on his ass to humiliating waves of laughter, gets up, and joins right in with sincerity.
It’s all just a dream, right? See you, space cowboy. You’re gonna carry that weight.
My favorite passage from Cioran is the one where he talks about fighting seagulls.
Sad and sleepless, uncomfortably familiar
Do one on Arthur Schopenhauer please :)
Ngl the idea of being an invincible victim is pretty damn inspirational
Most happy Balkan resident
never been this early , or anywhere near fast in my life . lol
*sings* Like a virgin!!!
@Precious Abang how did you know I was born dead? XP
You're not early you're on time
I want one of these to be posted 2 years after the original post date
I’ve came this fast a few times
This actually made me feel better about me and my failures
Being pessimistic only distracts you from your suffering for so long.
Awareness of suffering alone doesn't improve one's mentality. There is a diffrence between accepting one's suffering to move beyondi it, and seeing nothing but misery as the only possibility life has to offer.
Death is too good for some people.
If you want a bit more detailed introduction to Cioran, I'd recommend listening to the 2 episodes that my boy Stephen West from the "Philosophize this" podcast made on him. He makes quite a comforting argument as to how much of Cioran's writing can be underrstood as an affirmation of life - really liked it.
Major depressive here. This makes me feel happy. I like this.
Feels like he accepted this and moved on, findind what he was searching throughout his lifetime. Thanks for the video.
Well, it looks like I've finally found a philosopher who came to the exact same conclusions I have about life.
ayyyy
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Hey I've seen you in a favorite movie of mine! Just wanted to say I really enjoyed your performance!
He wasn't the scariest philosopher he was he could just see the absurdity of the world we lived in and he called it out he basically embodied the terror management theory
Uh huh, and is this absurdity something objective you can prove, or does it just live in your intuitive experence?
@@thegrandnil764 kind of yes to any logical person I can explain how absurd this world is but not every sees things the same in short were all living just to die every thing in the universe will die including the universe itself so isn't it kinda crazy that we all still so much pointless blood shed war even morals and preservation of life is kinda pointless
@@paul-ye3ut Well I disagree whole heatedly, all these cinical phliosophies rely on nothing but internal intuituition. I'm a very happy person and my life is amazing, so not only do these phliosophies seem kinda just edgy doomer shit, its almost hard to take it as anything more then people stating "I am depressed" through phliosophy.
@@thegrandnil764, well it's not really internal intuition, it's more like a different perspective towards life. Like, if you look at it, life is absurd. What makes it that people have to suffer, and others have great lives like you? And just the meaningless of it all, that no matter what, someday, anything you ever did, accomplish, will be gone, not even memories of it will be left. This is how absurd life is, but that's only my perspective on it. Like this philosopher, who just saw life as a mistake instead of a gift for others. We have all our views on life, and that's the beauty of philosophy.
True, Cioran's work is like a funny version of terror management theory. Still haven't read The Denial of Death though, too busy...
Love you Sisypuhus, what is the painting at 06:35 called?
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Painting Horses in the Studio, A Self Portrait by Gustav Adolph Friedrich
Quit drinking 5years ago, and my life has found a new spirit, im glad I don't have children for this idea of life. I don't like people or how the world works. But I'm here and will endure this hell. I will make the best of what I have and be grateful I came to a understanding. I give my pets all my love and I get it back when I look into their eyes. Just because I don't like the world around me doesn't mean I have to be a monster or with out cause. Try to enjoy life and take each experience as a stepping stone to where you are going. Reality is Perspective.
Удачи, вы молодец😊
You should talk about Alfred Jarry and Samuel Beckett
I've had insomnia for about five years now and I find skulls aesthetically pleasing
4:11 THIS MAN WAS THE JOKER BEFORE IT WAS COOL
Wonderful presentation. This is my favorite video on TH-cam right now. I’ve listened to it quite a few times.
Cioran is my favorite author in the entire world
what i wonder is what he was waiting for in order to give up. was the only the thing that kept from suicide the fear of a brief moment of pain? or what?
He was a fucking lame moron spouting "Life hard" "Life bad" "nuthin matters I'm just gonna die" like a fucking emo teenager. If he truly believed what he said he would have killed himself. He was an edge lord seeking attention.
@@Timmyval123 you've heard of the survival instinct?
"[...] expressing pessimism and misanthropy [...]" *shows picture of Nietzsche and Schopenhauer*
Well, Schopenhauer for sure. But Nietzsche, most certainly not. Nietzsche was an optimist.
Other than that, great video.
But above all, Nietzsche was an incel.
@@Brian-sh5ne Nah, the incels rumination further degenerates their potential, Nietzsche's ruminating qualities on the other hand..
His own works are not very kind to nihilists, what they made out of his works is
@@TheSubso I'm interested, explain further please.
@@billybobarino So what most people commonly think of Nietzsche isn't what he himself wrote but what people took from his work or in a lot of cases - what his sister made of it after he died. She went to Argentinia to build a "new german people" there which probably tells you a lot. Most of what people connect from him to the facists of that time comes from that edit of his work, not his actual writings.
Essentially Nietzsches early work recognized that Nihilism and especially its lack of answer is quite a bane and aside his many nervous breakdowns I'd say that his work denotes a opposition to it. Afterall he does support a pursue of passion in art, self ownership and ultimatically a struggle in life.
To quote "Nihilism, any aim is lacking, any answer to the question why is lacking. What does nihilism mean? That the highest values devaluate themselfs" making it pointless to him, I'd argue.
If you take a look at books published posthumous, like "Will to power" which many take to say Nietzsche was a nihilist was in fact edited by his facist sister.
The earlier quote is also from said book, but if you put it more into line with his own work the takeaway is signficantly more positive than that.
Obviously I'm also just someone that "takes" his work
I hope this wasnt too hard to read, I'm german so quote translation may be a bit wonky. Kind regards!
Read 25 pages of ‘A Short History of Decay’ in 2019. I’m still recuperating.
This was really interesting and a tad bit depressing too, good stuff as usual!
the moment I saw the absolute insanity in the thumbnail's face I just knew it had to be about Cioran.
If this dude would've been around in the time of tumblr he'd go viral
What is failure if not the inability to live up to value, and so what is failure without that which values?
Meaninglessness is at odds with failure, the ladder predicated on the falsity of the former.
Failure is dead and we, our very existence, is it's corpse bearer.
How can I make an animation last 10 min, and keep it interesting. So far my videos last 2 min max.
don't tell anyone this secret but make ur characters eyes look like boobs (works every time)
@@Sisyphus55 I'll try, but how graphic of a boob drawing are we talking
Mo Magaleo as detailed a rendering of boobs that you are capable of making every time lmao -pics or it didn’t happen-
@@roosterlol8099 haha
Simple. Really good writing.
This channel is so amazing! I am glad I finally found it
9:20
Humorus afiniry towards failrure?
Damm boyyy I AM in.
What an excellent example of the horror of getting lost within one's own self-indulgent mindscape. If one's vision never takes one past our human self-centered egotist, it's no wonder he was lost his entire life.
"When consciousness becomes independent of life." (6:47) That sentence reveals zero appreciation for life, consciousness, or Earth's pageant of evolution that we a fleeting part of. Just cause someone is called a "philosopher" doesn't mean their ideas are worth a damned.
Don't call yourself a pessimist unless you are at least this sad 😤😤😤
When sadness becomes self indulgence... I really don’t have much time for such people.
Last time I was this early, "The Bridge" was an acceptable thing to say to PewDiePie
Fuck off
Why isn't it acceptable to say "the bridge" to pewdiepie anymore?
@@thegrammarcrusader4085 coz of the n-word
@@____-pb1lg what does that have to do with "The Bridge?", would you mind to elaborate?
@@Noah-wv4td oh, ok. Thanks.
Great video man I was going thru some deep depressions and this video helped me understand a bit of my pain
This philosopher leads me to wonder, can you abuse depression as if it were a drug? Abusing it and or taken advantage of it to pursue knowledge of a different understanding? Miserable abuse maybe, but to each their own chemical. Pick your poison.
Oh yes. Absolutely it can be, "Oh woe is me" can be a powerful drug and using and abusing is easy.
How was he so depressing and yet one of the few philosophers that were successful in their time alive
Unfortunately, I couldn't stop paying attention to your vocal fry to actually pay attention to your words. Like your visual style tho.
i got interested in philosophy during my highschool years and took up some of his books and started reading
i started with on the heights of despair,one of my favourite books that ive ever read
he wrote a lot about suicide and depression but always said that suicide is the cowards way out and it shouldnt be a valid option,or an option at all.
i regret not marking my favourite quotes from his books because i wouldve shared them
but reading his work felt unusually heartwarming,i felt like i wasnt alone in my misery,and oh what misery highschool brought.
needless to say i quit reading philosophy soon after because i didnt have the mental capacity of understanding or reflecting on what was being said.
it almost made me cry that bit about him losing his cognitive ability but still being aware of it enough to tell someone that he wasn't who he appears to be anymore.
Ridge wallet ad narrayed in a youtube video essay voice is one of the funniest things I've heard this month XD
Didn't even kill romanian. As a offensive, I find this himself
I cant express the joy that comes from people discussing cioran
cheers to the man who realizes that everything is pointless but doesn't really care and keeps on doing his thing :)
do what you like until you die, folks! that's my kind of nihilism.
we all die one day. the secret is not to care.
I had this exact ideologue at one point, and then I just kinda forgot about it. This video reminded me of it.
That's me and I love it. They're not wrong tho
Happiest man in romania
I am not familiar with this character, really interesting and well put together, thanks!