The billionaire brawl, 10 years later: Carl Icahn versus Bill Ackman over Herbalife

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  • Ken Squire, 13-D Monitor founder and CNBC contributor, joins 'Closing Bell: Overtime' to discuss the billionaire brawl between Carl Icahn and Bill Ackman about 10 years later For access to live and exclusive video from CNBC subscribe to CNBC PRO: cnb.cx/2NGeIvi
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ความคิดเห็น • 92

  • @hardy2175
    @hardy2175 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Herbalife is still dodgy.

    • @MarcusAurelius7777
      @MarcusAurelius7777 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah it is going down, just slowly

  • @andysorensen1737
    @andysorensen1737 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I remember watching the replay of this getting back from class. One of the best things I’ve ever seen on CNBC.

    • @TPM188
      @TPM188 ปีที่แล้ว

      what school? Must be a great school.

    • @HomeAtLast501
      @HomeAtLast501 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwnnnnn.

  • @DoctorDoom69
    @DoctorDoom69 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Disney needs someone like Carl Icahn to throw some chairs around haha

    • @charlesjoseph730
      @charlesjoseph730 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nelson Peltz…you called it

  • @jsfnnyc
    @jsfnnyc ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Do they teach this now in business school? They should!

  • @rameshhansaravendra
    @rameshhansaravendra ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Herbalife stock price actually tanked before recovering. Ackman should have closed the trade then but he waited too long.

    • @hikeskool
      @hikeskool 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      14-year low yesterday (16-Feb-2024) 👌

    • @paulallen1939
      @paulallen1939 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah yes! Im sure Ackman needs someone like you to tell him what he should have done! You should also tell him that he shouldve bought Bitcoin in 2010!

    • @SurgeEquityResearch
      @SurgeEquityResearch 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paulallen1939well said

    • @Scarsofevil
      @Scarsofevil 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he expected herbalife to be shut down to 0

    • @ZombieLincoln666
      @ZombieLincoln666 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Timing is always the difficult part

  • @hikeskool
    @hikeskool 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    14-year low yesterday (16-Feb-2024) 👌

  • @michaelwilliams-nq6zg
    @michaelwilliams-nq6zg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ackman proved his case, his mistake was underestimating Herbalife and the resources Ican would throw to back it.

  • @SouL1Jacker
    @SouL1Jacker ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Ackman got wrecked in the end. Cost him something like half a billion. Icahn won big.

    • @Tee-e4i
      @Tee-e4i 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you honestly believe he didn't ensure that position and convert it into a bet using put options?

  • @JG-re2bb
    @JG-re2bb ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Regardless of how much money he has made, Icahn comes off as a thug and a bully. Ackman comes across much better in comparison even if he was on the losing side of their feud

    • @Dencass7293
      @Dencass7293 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Disagree

    • @JG-re2bb
      @JG-re2bb ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Dencass7293 congrats. You are entitled to your opinion

    • @williamkim9494
      @williamkim9494 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      agreed. completely disagree with this portrait of icahn as a bully@@Dencass7293

    • @hikeskool
      @hikeskool 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      For sure. About ten years after this happened, the puff-piece self-titled documentary came out on hbo. Please note I have no problem with Icahn's investment activity but I personally probably wouldn't get along with him. Not that he would care either way, and that's probably the problem👌

    • @acefromspace2727
      @acefromspace2727 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Icahn is old school. His force of personality tells you everything you need to know about his investment style. He bullied Ackman and won the battle on Herbalife. But I think Ackman will come out ahead in the game of life.

  • @omarabu1
    @omarabu1 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Herbalife is practically a scam though, no? I haven’t seen or heard of that company for yesrs

  • @kingkemet2527
    @kingkemet2527 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lol Carl was gangsta

  • @jackbills
    @jackbills ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please explain how we can benefit from this inflation! Between December 2007 and August 2008, I increased my reserve from $230k to over $791k but the market has changed since then.

    • @dannyscott1276
      @dannyscott1276 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are numerous ways to make money right now, but only real-time professionals can complete such high-volume, near-perfect transactions.

    • @palmersolga
      @palmersolga ปีที่แล้ว

      The stock won't be making significant increases due to inflation. It wouldn't be a terrible idea to BUY it now, but don't anticipate seeing significant returns for some time. When things start to turn around in all those difficulty spots, I'll buy. Until then, there's just too much upheaval for me.

  • @winstonwolfe2537
    @winstonwolfe2537 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Multi level marketing structures should be outlawed or regulated out of existence. The always same bunch on the top is exploiting their “downline”, typically desperate people who are deceived into pursuing the wring dream.

  • @Sirius_Blazing_Star
    @Sirius_Blazing_Star 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best way to lose an Enemy is by making a Friend 🤝; Always try to accept an olive-branch where extended and appropriate ❤ #ActivistInvestor #CarlIcahn #BillAckman #CNBC

  • @clementdecker9725
    @clementdecker9725 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    team Ackman

    • @imperiumofficerprivate
      @imperiumofficerprivate ปีที่แล้ว

      This guy drinking day and what did he's scheduled events and did not go home why

    • @bry892
      @bry892 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@imperiumofficerprivate speak english you autist

    • @SouL1Jacker
      @SouL1Jacker ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Enjoy the losing side, then

    • @MrLakshay19
      @MrLakshay19 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Team Ackman 🤘

  • @clb24
    @clb24 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    And the stock is less than $1 from where it was exactly 10 years ago, lol!

    • @ekop1778
      @ekop1778 ปีที่แล้ว

      YEP PROBABLY WILL FALL TO 50 CENTS

  • @wallacesouza2678
    @wallacesouza2678 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    TRADING HAS NOT BEEN GOING WELL WITH ME, I HAVE INVESTED A LOT OF TIME AND FAILED, I TRADED ON MY OWN BUT EACH TIME I KEEP LOOSING MONEY. I DON'T HAVE GOOD STRATEGIES TOWARDS THE MARKET.
    PLEASE CAN SOMEONE PUT ME THROUGH ON THE RIGHT PATH.

    • @antoniaprieto5390
      @antoniaprieto5390 ปีที่แล้ว

      People are scared of investment
      because of high rate of scammers on
      the market

    • @mosesalbert2260
      @mosesalbert2260 ปีที่แล้ว

      But of a truth they are scammers but brokers are out there too waiting for investors. So don't be scared of giving any one a try.

    • @antoinejean2608
      @antoinejean2608 ปีที่แล้ว

      talking of being successful! think that
      am blessed because if not I wouldn't
      have meet someone who is as
      spectacular as Olivera Jane khumalo

    • @brucehill6918
      @brucehill6918 ปีที่แล้ว

      I totally agree! Investment has also
      changed my life financially andI have
      heard a lot about investments with
      Olivera Jane khumalo and how good she is, please how safe are the profits?

    • @villadschristensen1322
      @villadschristensen1322 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! How's that possible please I'lII
      appreciate your assistance on how to
      go about it.

  • @thecountofmontecristo8280
    @thecountofmontecristo8280 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Joining us now...well surely it has to be Carl or Bill or both? Nope.

  • @lmc2664
    @lmc2664 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will say this CI is not so credible to me.

  • @iamteamthinkbig
    @iamteamthinkbig 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Icahn is the real Wolf of Wall Street! Love him!

    • @Web3Future333
      @Web3Future333 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Icahn is a sleezy scam artist. The lowest of the low.

    • @iamteamthinkbig
      @iamteamthinkbig 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Web3Future333😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jobbins008
    @jobbins008 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ackman is being a quiet activist now? Haha Goodbye Harvard President!

  • @breadwinner92
    @breadwinner92 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ding ding

  • @piscesfish4672
    @piscesfish4672 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We need more activist investment!

    • @EdenJoey
      @EdenJoey ปีที่แล้ว

      You must not know about GameStop

  • @walkingstick6655
    @walkingstick6655 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of course, Herbalife is a pyramid scheme, but it's always enjoyable to watch someone so actively trying to manipulate things in shorting that, in this case, bringing down Ackman trumped destroying a pyramid scheme. As we know, even the little people like doing such (GameStop).

  • @imperiumofficerprivate
    @imperiumofficerprivate ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BTC

    • @TuMalditaMadre
      @TuMalditaMadre ปีที่แล้ว

      Americans got burned on cryptocurrency twice, it's over with

  • @netstarr7758
    @netstarr7758 ปีที่แล้ว

    The democrats are bringing us the biggest crash depression in the history of the USA.

    • @TuMalditaMadre
      @TuMalditaMadre ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure they are 😂

    • @vecter
      @vecter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You don't know how the economy works... but keep spewing that brainless fox propaganda that was fed to you just 2 minutes ago

  • @mondizzle2965
    @mondizzle2965 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ackman most certainly learned his lesson. Ichan is the ultimate 🥸