This Tuning = Automatically Beautiful Chords
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Hey there. Steve here. In this video, you'll learn a bunch of easy chord shape in the beautiful tuning of DAEAC#E. Enjoy!
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man.... 5 minutes playing and i'm loving it... so much space.. so much ideas coming to mind... beautiful... thank's ! from the heart!
Its a great tuning for sure. What I struggled with is that I found myself writing the same (or at least very similar) sounding riffs over and over again. I wasnt really able to find different "moods" with this tuning. I always ended up with TMP-style themes. After a year I went back to Eb-standard and Drop Db which I found more versatile in the long run.
Exactly where I got to as well now I’m back in standard
I feel this. Every time I see a Midwest emo band, they're always messing around with tunings. There is usually a break or two in the set where they retune their guitar. Probably because you can only get so much out of this kind of tuning.
It's great for what it does though!
@@chrismaghintayyeah you either have to bring a lot of guitars or retune which can really take some time and not every type of guitar string likes this. Breaking strings and being out of tune all the time are fatal in a live setup.
We need a better version of the Gibson Robo tuner Back which is able to switch alternate tunings in no time😅
For sure! I would see these tunings as setting a particular mood and if you want to change that feeling then use another tuning or do it all in standard haha
Sometimes I worry that all the riffs that I write sound too similar. But it’s kind of wild how basically all (if not all) of Dylan’s songs are in this tuning and yet each on stands by itself
Open tunings can be a little frustrating. All the muscle memory you've built up just goes out the window. But it forces you to think about it differently, and then it can be inspiring.
Something I love to do with alternate/open tunings is playing standard chord shapes. you can get some gnarly sounding stuff that way. Some is dissonant of course (which I personally like) but you can also get some really big, harmonic chords if you move it to the right spot
Imagine been Joni Mitchell and keeping track of 57(!!) different tunings..
But with alt tunings you use the same shapes or idea of to create a new chord or arrangement of chords to unlock a new or certain playing style for ex if you like sus2 play in add4 tuning and they goes from there
Making guitar easier to play and quicker isn't cheating, it's awesome! Thank you.
Keef used open G (and sometimes D or E) for almost his whole career
@@sloppy_handhence his sound
It depends on what you want to do. If strumming quick and easy beautiful chords is the goal then you've nailed it! If versatility and growth as a musician over time is the goal then you might want to reconsider standard tuning.
No, it's fucking cheating. Having fun with it is fine(same and drop D), but if a band were to use this tuning for ALL of their songs I would not respect them.
It's like using a Chorus petal, ALL the time. The sounds of the octaves hide your mistakes.
@@YodatheHobbit I don't think any band would use this ALL the time, like a band that uses drop D ALL the time, well, it's noticeable. Any alternate tuning is simply another color brush in the toolbox, it is fun to stimulate creativity. It is not cheating.
I've been using this same tuning but one whole step down (CGDGBD) since the late 90s, it's so much fun. I stole it from Sonic Youth, they used it a lot on A Thousand Leaves and the albums before and after. Another cool variant (that SY also use) is to drop the high E so that it's in unison with the next string (CGDGBB / DAEAC#C#).
Yes! Great comment, @mynameisjonas80. My guitar’s currently in CGDGBD, and I thought I’d learned this from SY.
snapped my string :(((
@@user-vr1rc3pm3hannoying? Wow you think your hotshiiiiiit don’t you hero
@@cvlro. same lol
Great class here!!!
i've been using CGDGBD for years, basically the same tuning - really nice to play in :)
I gotta try that tuning
Same originally didn't want to break my strings when learning playing possum for a peek by Owen - then just go into that and capo lol
Inspiring for sure. There is no cheating, there is no right or wrong. Just play what sounds good to you. That’s how I started years ago.
You convinced me. I immediately thought of a song we wrote years ago and revamping it. Thank you!
When I saw Jackson Browne’s solo tour many years ago he had a grand piano, electric piano and 15 acoustic guitars onstage. He told us to just yell out our requests (very cool) and he would select a specific guitar to play. As a guitarist myself, I could tell he was using a variety of tunings, some of the same tunings in a variety of different keys. 15 AG’s on one long custom built wooden rack on wheels. It was so cool. It was like we were at his house and he was pulling favorite wines from his cellar for us to try. Only ever saw that once in my 50+ years of concert going. Awesome.
15 guitars! Must've been an experience that. Haha
Joni Mitchell used no less than 57(!!) different tunings.
Imagine keeping track of them...
Joni is the Queen of tunings! Now I have a GR 55 guitar synth and a Godin electric that can digitally change the pitch of my strings through MIDI. No floppy strings even in baritone mode! It actually sounds really great. I love to play songs using a regular tuning for the verse and then instantly changing to a broad modal tuning for the chorus. It’s subtle but it sounds awesome.
@@musicboy2003 Joni Mitchell is just "The Queen" IMHO..
Been listening to her since "Hejira" was released when I was 11, and tried to learn some of the songs "off the record".
Quickly realised she was using alternate tunings, but couldn't figure out what they where,
it was before the internet..
After she switched to a Parker Fly, she used a Roland VG 8 to change the tunings, and it sounds absolutely amazing, like on the "Painting with Words and Music" concert available here on utube..
Whatever you can do for inspiration is always the best thing for your creativity. A Capo... Different tuning... mixing up key changes. It's all good. Rock on.
"A" chord on the lightest 3 strings, fifths on the bottom 3 strings. Makes a lot of sense!
Instant easy mode, to make you instantly sound like American Football, Mock Orange, etc.. gotta try it out!
Beautiful! I immediately paused the video and tuned my guitar to this and found it very useful and fun. 🤘
This exactly what I wanted! Movable shapes for cool tunings. Please do this for other tunings too 🙏🏿
Something tells me you are a certified guitarist. I just realized that I’m a intuitive guitarist with some formal lessons. I wish I had realized that sooner.
For me, having a guitar with a clear, undistorted sound would have given a better representation of what the chords themselves sounded like.
This is great for one or two songs in a set list, having one guitar tuned to this tuning for those songs.
As mentioned by others, everything can start coming out very similar sounding with alternative tunings and if you dont want to dedicate a guitar to each tuning a la Sonic Youth then it can be a hassle retuning all the time. I suggest the spider capo which is a partial and customizable capo. My song As I Lay Dying on Soundclick uses a spider capo for the entire song set as a droning Em. Em and A are the most obvious applications of the spider capo but there are a lot of other things you can do with a little imagination. Plus, once you are done experimenting you pop off the capo and you are back to standard tuning. The spider capo also has the ability to mute certain strings which opens up a lot of other possibilities. BTW I dont work for spider capos. My first capo like this was actually by another brand called Third Hand Capo which is pretty similar, used to be a bit cheaper and might suit some people better.
Thanks to guitarist snobbery, the AT-200 wasn't taken seriously and it flopped. I predicted this and so I grabbed _four_ of them. This guy does a pretty good demo:
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Ever since I discovered open tunings years ago while trying to figure out Jimmy Page, I've kind of associated them to acoustic guitar playing more for some reason. But you've inspired me to try something new on electric. And not always on a super clean sound but with a little gain also. I'm curious what might come of it. It's like taking a break from regular guitar and exploring a new instrument. But one you can already play. lol
I figured out in my time of dying and a few other zep tracks use a drop e tuning
The rain song is the one that started me on alternate tunings for sure.
Once I realized it's Open G but with a dropped 6th string, then with everything raised up a step, It helped me get around on the top 5 string a bit easier.
Yeah that's one way to think of it for sure. I think of it as open Am with a D in the bass
@@gdawgs101it's Am in the thumbnail, but Amaj in the video
@@mitch0990 Whoops, you're right, thanks!
The high 3 strings (A C# E) are the notes of A major. The 6th is D and the 4th is A (fifth of D). 5th is E and 4th is A (could consider this a small inversion of A major(?)). Great idea, great playing, great video…..
thanks! yeah, I'd say it's A/D tuning
I love tunings like this. Open Dmaj9(no3).
If you want a 3rd, you can drop the G string (tuned to A3 in the video) down to F# or F. This would change the tuning to Dmaj9 or Dm/maj9 respectively.
What I love about this channel, even though I don't play math rock (or even really want to do so), is that it gives me ideas. I play a lot of metal, with a progressive flair. And nothing says, "Interesting chord progression" like an alternate (math rock) tuning.
I’ve been looking for something to break the rut I’ve been in. Thank you Thank you THANK YOU!! I’ve been just riffing and noodling with this all afternoon! I will definitely be writing something with this!
STD tuning can sound really dull , I hardly use it anymore unless I've written something on piano/keys. Open G is a good starter (stones etc.) Joni Mitchell has some amazing tunings to get creative with.
I agree!!!
see also: open Em tuning. From E-std, A -> B, D -> E
Open Em: EBEGBE
I stumbled across this tuning and its so relaxing to mess around
Watch this video next to learn how to easily write ideas in DAEAC#E tuning: th-cam.com/video/Yw8-uTg2MDA/w-d-xo.html
@Let'sTalkAboutMathRock is there a way to get your Essentials e-book without using PayPal? I dropped them years ago.
My magical tuning for effortless beautiful chords is G-D-d-f-g#-b (fifth string is lowest). If one places fingers according to the recipe "Place index finger across 5 strings; cover 0-3 strings with the middle finger on the next fret, 0-3 strings with the ring finger on the fret above that, and 0-2 with the pinky on the fret above that, most arrangements will be usable chords. For some chords, extending the index finger to the sixth string would add a useful note, and for some it wouldn't, but simply strumming the top 5 strings is easier than having to use the left hand to mute a string that's strummed.
I'm partial to my Flat Finger Tuning in particular, but the idea of swapping the bottom two strings would probably open up a lot of possibilities for other tunings as well. I'd be interested in knowing what you think.
I have a variation of this one… DAE is very good to work with because it is a drone tuning and it allows for individual strings to be used with the top string played open allot and goes great with some fuzz and stuff like that. I don’t see it as a replacement for standard tuning. I really enjoy it though and allows for some interesting things that just are t possible in standard
Bro , putting out so much inspiration and education at the same time ! Thank you very much , I have discovered your channel recently and it reignited my love for the guitar . Definitely going to try out those things !
Thank you thank you. That's what I love to hear! 🥰
I arrived by accident about 25 minutes ago. I've got to tell you that his opening statement is only "NEARLY true". You can hit great stuff 8 times in a row, and THEN you try something that WOULD work on a standard tuning and then there's HORROR! and because you've never been here before you don't know how to recover ! ONLY hurriedly barring the whole set of open strings will allow you to bail in a way that appears competent. It's a mine field, where 24 of the squares you could stand on are glorious and 8 of them will out you instantly as a morally corrupt, and CONTEMPTIBLE human being.
There is much light to be found here, but the extreme opposite lurks nearby in unknown places . Don't be fooled by his confident smile, DANGER LURKS! BEWARRRRRRE
Thanks this was fun.
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ive only been playing and learning songs in this tuning recently. songs from 7th Jet Balloon, soccer., as a sketch pad, and ANORAK!
all japan based bands now that i think about it lol amazing tuning and amazing music
I love this. I wrote a song using the open chord GFC but in a configuration that where I played them leaving more open notes that gave a basic chord progression a similar tonal sound as DAEAC#E that also worked further down the neck at C. That book looks very inticing
I use open A a lot EAEAC#E. Just for slide at first but it's also great for discovering new chords and writing with a fresh approach.
Man, I was in a kinda very bad mood.. but your video draw me a huuuuuge smile on my face. Thanks for the info!!! Suuuper interesting. Super nice!
Tuning the low D up to E, making it EAEAC#E (I typically go a half or full step down with it for sake of my strings) can keep it from sounding samey, and makes power chord shapes super versatile and fun to explore. Really massive sounding stuff!
You're playing in open G
@@mitch0990 A C# E = Amaj
I suppose I am, if technically open A. I’ve been playing in open G for years as well and it shocks me that I haven’t noticed the tunings are the exact same relative to one another. Lol, thank you for pointing that out, I seriously didn’t notice.
Thank you for sharing ! interesting tunning and sounds great. Will try . I noticed something , I often use open chords , and this tunning seems to work well in that situation as well. Take care!
I’ve been using a similar one for a while, DADACE. I’ve never had a tuning that almost demanded tapping from me before that one.
I’ve based my entire failed career off of this tuning and FACGCE
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I had this tuning years ago but I forgot it..... now that you refresh my mind about it I would say to have one designated guitar for this tuning while you have other guitars in standard or open G or D with four guitars you could do a complete concert
I will try this one. I have loved a good drone with slideable shapes since the Seventies and open E.
OK, now I need this but for dark-and-minor-scale focused music!
i felt it when he started playing sundress by TMP
one of the best daeace song ever
I've been stuck in this tuning for several years--lots of good stuff in there!
Yup, cool. Thank you for one more in my alternative tuning library. Cheers!
As you were playing the first song I immediately thought it sounds like tiny moving parts.
Sounds beautiful, I will definitely give it a try. Nice guitar as well 👌 😊
This channel, single handedly, made me want a telecaster so bad!!!
sorry 😅
Your picture show a C natural instead of C#. Your original tuning with C and D made me think of Amin and Dmin9 but, the C# changes everything!
🙃🎸☮️💕
I mean it’s a sus4 chord stacked on a major chord…so it’s always going to be brighter
I bet if one tuned to the C natural, it would darken the mood
Basically Open A major/D (the 11) or open Dmaj9 tuning. Suuuper cool way to get chord extensions and suspensions without thinking/stretching too much. Def good for some Dmaj/D Lydian/Amaj/A Lydian stuff
very playable & cool sounding chord shapes
Great presentation Steve. Love the tone your getting. Have never tried this tuning, thanks for the heads up. 👍
BEBF#BE
Bar for a 9th. Use one finger on an additional fret for a major or minor. Low B is available for metal. Drop to A if it suits you.
That's just such a tasty tone, too.
These new tunings are wonderful. Great ideas for anyone.
Beautiful fun changing tuning. Very relaxing 😌 Thank you ❤
I have experimented with many different tunings in the 50 years I have been playing but I always come back to standard because it is the most flexible. Unless you want to change the tuning for each song, I feel it’s best to just learn to play with the standard tuning. You get better and then it doesn’t seem so hard.
You can always have multiple guitars with diffrent tunings to grab one depending on the mood.
Good for you! Just maybe not good for everyone
New Standard? 😉
Remarkable ❤. Thx love the frets animations
Thanks for sharing! You just made want to work on a song with this as a foundation
I often use this tuning and DAEABE :)
So cool. I'll definitely be checking this out.
You're welcome. Thanks
this, but half step down. My go to alternative tuning
Nice . I have been a big fan of guitar and instrument tunings. Problems though can arise in small band guitar groups . Familiar tones to another person playing bass or guitar have to modify their ear and physical hand shapes from someone playing another guitar across from them in jamming area . Depending on music style eg- Blue Grass . Modified Dobro tunings , Mandolin, Fiddles etc. Country - Steel Guitars , Lap steels . All can be challenging and interesting at the same time.
Pretty sweet! I’m gonna try it.
math rock is so fucking beautiful
Tried dadfad it was kinda cool gonna try this one too im a noob and just started trying new tuning
The problem I have with this tuning is that I can't play music that sounds depressing (lol), and that's my go-to sound. Everything I come up with in D-A-E-A-C#-E sounds too happy! 🤣
Certainly fine if you want to make happy indie pop and pop punk sound _even_ happier.
My thoughts exactly: if it sounds automatically beautiful, does that make it harder to make stuff sound ugly? I need a bit of both, or I get bored.
@@Handles_are_garbage That's why I've always stuck with variations on standard tuning; just go flat a half or a whole step. Nothing else can really allow me the freedom to shape all of the chords I want to play - and change keys - as easily as standard tuning can.
A lot of these alternate tuning videos are aimed at beginners who are frustrated by not being able to make cool sounds yet, and that's fine.
try tuning the low E to F, so it makes it more minor. If you don't like that sound, then also tune the C# down to C or B.
That would work well with another guitar in standard tuning in certain situations, love it 👍🏼
This really cool. Time to come out of the standard tuning dark ages for sure !
tuning to this on the higher strings is like defusing a bomb lol
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I've so got to try this.
Inspiring💗 Thank you🙏
This will be very useful to me! Thank you🙂
Joni Mitchel used a Roland VG88 for switching tunings
This just sounds so damn pretty
I love tunings like this. I like FACGCE a lot, but I tend to tune it down to EG#BF#BD# (EMaj9 I think?) so my strings don't hate me, lol.
Oh wow....! It does sound amazing!
This tuning sounds like mid-2000’s emo or a shonen anime theme. Not a ton of variation, but it’s really nice on the ears.
For sure! It has a place
Profound & Beautiful.
THANK YOU! JUST WHAT I NEEDED! A new way to compose music. This also sounds like TOE's Goodbye.
I thought it was gonna be a video on D7sus2 and i got kinda confused cuz ive never seen anyone play that tuning 😩
Also i love that les paul emo riff you play on this tuning. It sounds so sweet 😍
Was looking for some cool guitar stuff and immediately was greeted with TMP. Not surprising but cool to see them getting a shout!
Edit: The channel name. Dead giveaway lol.
My greatest tuning, ACOUSTIC GUITAR- Remove D and high E, and tune F# C# C# F# . Do it with vocals for a month, you'll probably leave a spare guitar tuned this way forever.
Theres a reason standard tuning has stood the test of time. These tunings are always fun but eventually they get old imo. And another commentor is correct, they make riffs sound very samey if you overuse the tuning
totally get it. I play in standard most the time. these alternate tunings are great for creating a 'sound' and particular feel 👍
When I got into emo/math rock 5 years ago I used to play in D-A-D-A-C#-E, I should try this one aswell
I will try this, thanks
It's perfect for writing your own music for your TH-cam videos background music without getting copyright notice or paying for stock background music subscription.
Why’ve I only just found this? Great tone btw
Almost the same as what I was taught to be Robert Johnson's secret tuning where he would play facing the wall instead of the audience so his competing musicians wouldn't be able to backwards engineer the tuning. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it was e b e a c sharp d. Believe I learned it in guitar player magazine.
It's almost an open A major tuning, which I've messed around with before. Don't think I've messed with this tuning.
Looks interesting, I'm gonna try it out
Thanks, this was eye-openng.
That tuning sounds a little bit like it was used by the Goo Goo Dolls for „Iris“. But iirc John Rzeznik used just two different notes for his open tuning.
Came for the concept, stayed for the Fender 🤩 Is it a tele?
haha! Thanks. Yes, it's an American original telecaster in surf green. I switched the pickguard for an aged pearl one.
Sundress by Tmp is so fun to play
Totally agree
ofcourse he has the foam blue thinline tele :D
Beautiful Thinline!
Goo Goo tuning. I'm a fan.
If i may, and you can afford it, by the palm benders or the one for the g only, or third string. Yhe other tjong you csn do it take a capo and cut away points for your major notes. This would leave some strings in the upper pitch
3:24 That sounds really good!
First thought Is Honestly by American Football