I’m still hoping that for New Years Lowko will give us a compilation of all of his Lowkoisms. The “smelling Blood in the Water”, “not quite like Serral”, “a banger of a game”, would be great
Maybe we should put the question the other way around: Would Maxpax crush other players if he plays Terran or Zerg ? I am not a player so I have no idea which race needs more MaMicro in general but Protoss isn't the most fav race when it comes to balance. Obviously, this is my opinion as I watch the games.
Raynor did a good job contaminating the psi storm upgrade in the third game, then hydraed down some templar with decent energy. If that storm was out earlier, those hydra may have gotten mind-cooked.
Protoss Players: Protoss is weaker than all the other races! Reality: Reynor plays Protoss at 600 APM while MaxPax plays at 400 APM, and completely wings all of his builds. If he spent all of his time on Protoss, he would be the best. Feedbacking spell-casters, microing disrupter shots, warp-prism micro, stalker micro, are all very APM intensive. If MaxPax all of a sudden discovered an extra 200 APM, and brought a little more variety that Hero has, he would be unstoppable.
If the probability of winning a best-of-3 match is 70%, then the probability of winning a best-of-7 match is a 77.8% approx, not 90% (63.7% win rate in every game). For the probability of winning a best-of-7 match to be 90%, then the probability of winning that same matchup in a best-of-3 would need to be 81.0% (with a 72.1% win rate in every game). That is, of course, assuming independence between successive outcomes, 0% drawing chance, and a fixed probability of winning every game. Nobody wanted this, but I loved doing it :)
RE balance: no Lowko, the core issue is that Protoss have been overnerfed. There are buffs needed or nerfs to terran and zerg. It's as simple as that. No other race was ever allowed to have a losing statistic for such a long time. But somehow it's fine when Protoss can't win a major tourney in like forever.
Also I’m wondering if Protoss should have some of their tools back? Maybe corrosive bile can no longer break force fields, or there is a twilight council upgrade called “Buffered Field Projector” that makes force fields immune to corrosive biles. Maybe extended thermal lance also makes the colossus not absolutely useless vs non light units. Maybe there can be an upgrade that gives immortals their hardened shields back
No. They wouldn't be better with Protoss instead of Zerg. They love their Spellcasters. They win most of their games with those. And the "easily replacable" army that maxes fast and reinforces faster. If they lose 2 full bases within the 1st 10 minutes they almost always tap out. They can't throw away their army if they can't replace it fast. Limiting their creep and destroying a few bases is the fastest way to get them to quit. If they get 6-7 bases up and running then they know they can win. All they need to do is throw their army every which way at their opponent to do as much damage as possible, replace what is lost to do the same again, while they get their Spellcasters up and running to pick their opponent's army apart. You CAN'T do the same with either of the other races.
That last game was kinda weird. I don't understand why some Protos players do this - they research Storm but wait until it's finished and then start warping in their first Templar. Imagine how much easier defending that attack would have been if he'd had even just 1 storm ready to go.
If you watch closer, when storm was almost finished, reynor used his overseer to cast Contaminate to delay storm right before the fight, game wouldve been much different if it werent for that
GOD I love MaxPax... I think its because hes the first Protoss plater that i feel plays the style i want to. The macro with a killer instinct, knowing when to assasinate someone.
Yo, Lowko is doing sigmarines. fucking awesome. i got in to it because of TB and Incontrol talking about on the co-optional podcast ages ago. but welcome!
I think Protoss is so trick to balance due to the warp in mechanic. Gateway units can’t be too strong, otherwise Protoss would be able to materialize a great many powerful units wherever there is a power field. Part of what they did is make Protoss units expensive, and they also (recently in the lifespan of SC2) made it so that you only get the fast warp in if a gateway is connected to the power field. No more fast warp ins on a lone pylon. The problem I feel this makes is Protoss seems very fragile in the early game because zealots and stalkers are very expensive compared to marines, zerglings, hellions, and roaches. Truly idk what the solution is but I’m curious to see if the third race in stormgate will have a warp in mechanic or not I also wonder if we don’t see as many Protoss wins in tournaments because the greats happen to not play Protoss. In other words, Dark, Serral, Maru, Clem, etc aren’t outstanding players because they are Zerg or Terran, they are just outstanding players but they don’t play Protoss. Idk man. I do really like how my iPad automatically capitalizes Zerg, Terran, and Protoss though
21:00 Are you Serral because you are strong at playing zerg? Or are you playing zerg because you are strong at being Serral? Or are you strong because you are Serral playing zerg? Or are you strong because you are zerg played by Serral? 😮
Protoss seems to suffer the most after the power spike of warp gate, but before more advanced tech goes online. Perhaps some cheaper/slower building tech structures are all they need? It would be maybe 50-100 extra resources on the table for that weak point.
Mandatory service "its not only military" is 1 year 6 months and a couple days. So if they arent back in almost 2 years, then they probably arent coming back.
I’ll tell you the issue with Protoss. Balance seems fine at times, because you have a p v z match that the Protoss 2-0’s, and ends up looking like a god. That Protoss player didn’t make any mistakes that game, I promise you that. I’ve been playing since beta wol (and brood before that) and this is the first time I have taken a break because of balance, which started last year. Tried the new patch, and it barely helped. So, if you have a toss player who is on their game, toss looks strong. Protoss is a naked man with a glass sword. Terran and Zerg can make mistakes, lose units, and be fine. So when two players are at their very best, it’s fair. That rarely happens though, and when both players skip up even a little, Protoss loses.
I was going to follow on instagram but once you said it would feed your ego I thought I’d be a true friend and not follow for your mental health… you’re welcome.
No Instagram, and I am disappointed you went with age of sigmar, 40k is better. But I reflexively smile when you mention your minis, there's a level of wholesome enjoyment people miss out on until they paint their first mini.
@@LowkoTVAOS does have some gorgeous minis, don't let this guy discourage you. Totally wouldn't mind you doing some warhammer related videos on your channel however 👀
I don't think protoss is very gimmicky compared to the other races. Think about the creative protoss players today. Astrea and herO. Think about the creative zergs. Dark, Meomaika and Bly. The creative terrans like Gumiho and Maru (though all terrans vary their builds and barracks placements often) I personally would use the term 'unstable', because standard protoss is just weaker than standard T and Z, at least weaker to cheeses and super susceptible to small variations in builds which are extremely easy to hide as terran, and easy to execute as zerg. In my experience in PvT for example, it seems that protoss cheese has a good chance vs terran cheeses or variations, though it depends on the matchup, but often simply sucks vs standard terran so we don't see it often whereas the terran variations, aggressive openings and cheeses are all quite strong vs standard protoss, and vs protoss aggression really just becomes coinflippy, like most cheese vs cheese games go.
Je pense surtout que serral et Maru ne joue pas les petits tournoi pour que chaque joueur est une chance de gagner de l argent ! Sinon ils écraserais la compétition
Creep tumors shouldn't be invisible unless there's a building nearby. Creep is too powerful defensively. The amount of Queens should be reduced to one per hatchery too. This would force the zerg into building more units, making it harder for them to control the entire map as often as they do. No doubt in my mind that zerg, at the top level, are currently too powerful. It's to the point that I don't even respect zerg wins. They're given everything. Even a supposedly bad unit like mutalisks is insanely powerful when it's Serral using them. Part of my believes that Maxpax has micro that is comparable to Serral, but he's gimped by protoss. They were nerfed so often, they're kinda pathetic.
One Queen per Hatch means Zerg loses every single game at Masters or higher. Creep only close to buildings mean Zergs would never make it into GM. You need to learn the absolute basics of the game & get to at least Masters with all races before making balance suggestions.
@@philh2932It's not just Serral. Most top-tier zergs are able to dominate games while playing extremely greedy, because it's very difficult to punish them. Meanwhile, if protoss or terrans make a mistake against them, it's over instantly.
It's getting harder every day to be an enthusiast of this game. There is clearly no parity of strength between the 3 races. Maybe there is between terran and zerg. We already watch the games knowing that the protoss will probably lose. I admire the protoss players; Playing knowing that your race is rubbish compared to others can't be easy. This explains a little why this game wasn't as successful as BW and is forgotten.
Wow, he lost the toss, what a novelty, no one would be the best Protoss on the planet, it is a race that is simply garbage, the guy only made Hydra and since what Protoss unit can you make 1 and win vs Zerg balance?
Just a reminder. There are actually good casters like winter and pig on youtube. Stop wasting your time on lowkos subpar casting and watch them instead. Zerg lovers can stay here. Noone else panders to zerg as much as lowko.
Carrier is not the answer. Just forget it.. They turn it into a worthless pathetic ballon over the years. In fact, I was shocked to see protoss after a decade. Carriers may still be good on a 2x2 and so on.. but if you were able to build 10 carriers on a 1x1 then you would win anyway. By the way, would be fun to see HerO and Maxy in the same team in a 2x2 😂. They need to make this happen lol. See.. there is hard counters. Not ideal but even against hard counters you may try to fight it and even win or flee. BUT THERE IS NO ESCAPE AGAINST VIPERS! It's even worse than a hard counter. Free kill is not a hard counter, it just turns the game ugly. Balance this unit against protoss omg.
@@polca4love well, protoss seems to be the weakest race here, then maybe vipers could be nerfed a little bit at the abduction hability, in my point of view. I wonder if they could implement different levels of energy required for abduction, for example. Abduct a colossus costing more than abducting a stalker. Same for expansive big ships, should cost more energy than abducting a tank. I think vipers are OK vs terran. And at least the mothership should be imune, cmom! Colossus would be a slight more viable option again, since protoss have not much, and relying more in yolo or surprising styles to win. You wont be surprising Serral in a best of 7, I agreed.
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Serral Dark and Reynor should also fuse becoming a new overmind.
If I took a shot every time lowko says 'for example' the bottle would be empty by the end of the first game 😂
That being said...
I’m still hoping that for New Years Lowko will give us a compilation of all of his Lowkoisms. The “smelling Blood in the Water”, “not quite like Serral”, “a banger of a game”, would be great
That's nothing to write home about
So much so that when you said it, I heard it in his voice 😅
But the follow-up is going to hit like a truck.
The fact that Protoss has to 'trick' the opponent as part of their win condition should say a lot about the state of Protoss in SC2...
They don’t have to do that though. But if they do, it gives them a huge advantage.
You Protoss balance babies are so dumb
Maybe we should put the question the other way around: Would Maxpax crush other players if he plays Terran or Zerg ? I am not a player so I have no idea which race needs more MaMicro in general but Protoss isn't the most fav race when it comes to balance. Obviously, this is my opinion as I watch the games.
I’ll admit I don’t Watch enough of these videos anymore. I really need to start binging this channel to catch up
Welcome back!
I wish there was a playlist of just every cast on the channel, the ultimate Lowko podcast
Raynor did a good job contaminating the psi storm upgrade in the third game, then hydraed down some templar with decent energy. If that storm was out earlier, those hydra may have gotten mind-cooked.
I was wondering why the Storm research paused. Thought at first he killed a Pylon. I loved the HT snipes though!
13:55 - "He-Max"
And I say heeey heeey heeey heeey... 😂
MaxPax and Hero?
Surely, MaxHero!
He-max does not have the power.
you should call maxpaxes blink his 'blinky' instead of his 'security blanket'
Protoss Players: Protoss is weaker than all the other races!
Reality: Reynor plays Protoss at 600 APM while MaxPax plays at 400 APM, and completely wings all of his builds. If he spent all of his time on Protoss, he would be the best. Feedbacking spell-casters, microing disrupter shots, warp-prism micro, stalker micro, are all very APM intensive. If MaxPax all of a sudden discovered an extra 200 APM, and brought a little more variety that Hero has, he would be unstoppable.
Can we get a video about your mini painting adventure?
Not sure about a dedicated TH-cam video but Ive been posting some on my Instagram story
Is he any good? I’d buy one if it’s 🔥🔥🔥
If the probability of winning a best-of-3 match is 70%, then the probability of winning a best-of-7 match is a 77.8% approx, not 90% (63.7% win rate in every game). For the probability of winning a best-of-7 match to be 90%, then the probability of winning that same matchup in a best-of-3 would need to be 81.0% (with a 72.1% win rate in every game). That is, of course, assuming independence between successive outcomes, 0% drawing chance, and a fixed probability of winning every game.
Nobody wanted this, but I loved doing it :)
Nice one. I started to verify that you were correct, but I have to go to bed and my combinatorics is rusty.
RE balance: no Lowko, the core issue is that Protoss have been overnerfed. There are buffs needed or nerfs to terran and zerg. It's as simple as that. No other race was ever allowed to have a losing statistic for such a long time. But somehow it's fine when Protoss can't win a major tourney in like forever.
And it's fine that zerg is so op for that long.
Did Reynor break the curse just now? Well earned tbh
I was like “let’s enjoy another Reynor’s defeat” when I started the video
22:37: It's his blinket
Taking your point about small sample sizes: If one of Serral or Maru went toss in a major tournament and won, the "Git Gud" memes would be spicy!
14:00 her0's winrate would probably jump up like 30% if he stopped all army hotkeying
Lots of MaxPax games making the SC2 commentator scene.
That Donnie Vermillion quote went hard af ❤
Also I’m wondering if Protoss should have some of their tools back? Maybe corrosive bile can no longer break force fields, or there is a twilight council upgrade called “Buffered Field Projector” that makes force fields immune to corrosive biles. Maybe extended thermal lance also makes the colossus not absolutely useless vs non light units. Maybe there can be an upgrade that gives immortals their hardened shields back
Ahahahah, Donny Vermillion! That got me good.
22:37 lowko is my weighted blanket
I miss the underwater map when units died they floated to the top.
The one map name I remember
"Straight to the top of 2000 Atmospheres!"
Honestly Lowko thous far I have actually never skipped a video, i have also watched all of the available episodes that came before i was subscribed
No. They wouldn't be better with Protoss instead of Zerg. They love their Spellcasters. They win most of their games with those. And the "easily replacable" army that maxes fast and reinforces faster. If they lose 2 full bases within the 1st 10 minutes they almost always tap out. They can't throw away their army if they can't replace it fast. Limiting their creep and destroying a few bases is the fastest way to get them to quit. If they get 6-7 bases up and running then they know they can win. All they need to do is throw their army every which way at their opponent to do as much damage as possible, replace what is lost to do the same again, while they get their Spellcasters up and running to pick their opponent's army apart. You CAN'T do the same with either of the other races.
I love to see the pros starting to take maxpax seriously
Reynor - MaxPax - Clem has amazing dynamic between three of them. Noone really best among 3 of them
Lowko complaining about Protoss balance 10 seconds before the Protoss wins the game is typical Protoss behavior.
That last game was kinda weird.
I don't understand why some Protos players do this - they research Storm but wait until it's finished and then start warping in their first Templar.
Imagine how much easier defending that attack would have been if he'd had even just 1 storm ready to go.
If you watch closer, when storm was almost finished, reynor used his overseer to cast Contaminate to delay storm right before the fight, game wouldve been much different if it werent for that
@@hiramrichmond3341 I missed that, dirty move
they should do a tornament playing different races to test ur theory
GOD I love MaxPax... I think its because hes the first Protoss plater that i feel plays the style i want to. The macro with a killer instinct, knowing when to assasinate someone.
Cool minis, Lowko.
Protoss main problem is Noone starts air weapons early enough other then reynor who's a zerg
Yo, Lowko is doing sigmarines. fucking awesome. i got in to it because of TB and Incontrol talking about on the co-optional podcast ages ago. but welcome!
MaxPax is the protoss spirit animal.
I think Protoss is so trick to balance due to the warp in mechanic. Gateway units can’t be too strong, otherwise Protoss would be able to materialize a great many powerful units wherever there is a power field. Part of what they did is make Protoss units expensive, and they also (recently in the lifespan of SC2) made it so that you only get the fast warp in if a gateway is connected to the power field. No more fast warp ins on a lone pylon. The problem I feel this makes is Protoss seems very fragile in the early game because zealots and stalkers are very expensive compared to marines, zerglings, hellions, and roaches.
Truly idk what the solution is but I’m curious to see if the third race in stormgate will have a warp in mechanic or not
I also wonder if we don’t see as many Protoss wins in tournaments because the greats happen to not play Protoss. In other words, Dark, Serral, Maru, Clem, etc aren’t outstanding players because they are Zerg or Terran, they are just outstanding players but they don’t play Protoss. Idk man. I do really like how my iPad automatically capitalizes Zerg, Terran, and Protoss though
No, all those players are VERY oustanding.
21:00
Are you Serral because you are strong at playing zerg?
Or are you playing zerg because you are strong at being Serral?
Or are you strong because you are Serral playing zerg?
Or are you strong because you are zerg played by Serral? 😮
22:39 a blinket...
Protoss seems to suffer the most after the power spike of warp gate, but before more advanced tech goes online. Perhaps some cheaper/slower building tech structures are all they need? It would be maybe 50-100 extra resources on the table for that weak point.
You Know Lowko "Maxi-Pax" sounds a lot like "Maxi-Pads"
I dont think he would be too happy about being called that lol
13:48 Their Archon name is most certainly “HaxPax”.
+1 engagement for the algorithm
13:54 Herax 😊
22:06 DU DU DU DU
MAXI PAXI
Mandatory service "its not only military" is 1 year 6 months and a couple days. So if they arent back in almost 2 years, then they probably arent coming back.
Is it the crowned prince of Denmark? Is it three kids in a trench coat? It is... MaxPax!
If I lost a shield for everytime I had an Archon, I'd have 10 health. Math! 🤣
Now I admit that Zerg so OP among the all races
great game!
Probably maxpac is life
I'm abit triggered when Loko talk about the list of best toss, he didn't mention about Boss Toss😅
For that MaxPax herO Archon name, I vote for either "MeerPO" or "HaxPax"
is storm not ready at game 3?
I’ll tell you the issue with Protoss. Balance seems fine at times, because you have a p v z match that the Protoss 2-0’s, and ends up looking like a god. That Protoss player didn’t make any mistakes that game, I promise you that. I’ve been playing since beta wol (and brood before that) and this is the first time I have taken a break because of balance, which started last year. Tried the new patch, and it barely helped. So, if you have a toss player who is on their game, toss looks strong. Protoss is a naked man with a glass sword. Terran and Zerg can make mistakes, lose units, and be fine. So when two players are at their very best, it’s fair. That rarely happens though, and when both players skip up even a little, Protoss loses.
I was going to follow on instagram but once you said it would feed your ego I thought I’d be a true friend and not follow for your mental health… you’re welcome.
No Instagram, and I am disappointed you went with age of sigmar, 40k is better. But I reflexively smile when you mention your minis, there's a level of wholesome enjoyment people miss out on until they paint their first mini.
I don't care about the game, just like painting minis
@@LowkoTVAOS does have some gorgeous minis, don't let this guy discourage you. Totally wouldn't mind you doing some warhammer related videos on your channel however 👀
24:12 imagine if the south corean military wasn’t subjected to an US general… Imperialism hurting SC2 for ages
I think a better one would be be nightpax or maxmare. a Max nightmare combo yiiick.
He-max you goober
I don't think protoss is very gimmicky compared to the other races.
Think about the creative protoss players today. Astrea and herO.
Think about the creative zergs. Dark, Meomaika and Bly.
The creative terrans like Gumiho and Maru (though all terrans vary their builds and barracks placements often)
I personally would use the term 'unstable', because standard protoss is just weaker than standard T and Z, at least weaker to cheeses and super susceptible to small variations in builds which are extremely easy to hide as terran, and easy to execute as zerg.
In my experience in PvT for example, it seems that protoss cheese has a good chance vs terran cheeses or variations, though it depends on the matchup, but often simply sucks vs standard terran so we don't see it often whereas the terran variations, aggressive openings and cheeses are all quite strong vs standard protoss, and vs protoss aggression really just becomes coinflippy, like most cheese vs cheese games go.
MarPax it has to be.
MaxHero
Hay man, ever though about playing an of the Command & conquer games? They’re on steam for like 9 bucks.
So did Reynor basically do the exact same thing to win both games 1 and 3?
Oh reynor won this game haha apologies for my previous comment on the other video 😂😂
Je pense surtout que serral et Maru ne joue pas les petits tournoi pour que chaque joueur est une chance de gagner de l argent ! Sinon ils écraserais la compétition
Brother ❤🤣🤣🤣
Feeding Lokows EGO with a comment.
This doesn't make sense. *spoilers below*
I'm watching a Lowko stream, but Reynor won.
Honestly what the hell's the point of carriers anymore? They were useless 10 years ago, they just shouldn't be even considered anymore.
what happen with reynor? hydra is the wrongly unit
What will Reynor complain about now?! 😛
Let's go!
Haxpax
Hello everyone
Wild how overpowered Zerg still is
Hey Lowko, you say "FOR EXAMPLE" a lot 😅 Pretty much every time you mention a player.
Like, rewatch the first 15m of this video and count how many for examples did you throw at us. 😂
WTF are talking Lowko? PvT is MaxPax worst matchup and he still has 64% winrate in it. VS Zerg he's at 70% and vs Toss he's at 76%,
All-time win/loss is irrelevant to current form. But yes, historically his PvZ is stronger than his PvT.
MaxPax himself complains about his PvZ being bad
We get it, you are a Reynor fanboy.
16:00 Protoss doesn’t HAVE to do that dude. They have like 10 other game winning strategies against Zerg and they usually win with macro games.
MērHaxo
Algorithm boost comment
Creep tumors shouldn't be invisible unless there's a building nearby. Creep is too powerful defensively. The amount of Queens should be reduced to one per hatchery too. This would force the zerg into building more units, making it harder for them to control the entire map as often as they do. No doubt in my mind that zerg, at the top level, are currently too powerful. It's to the point that I don't even respect zerg wins. They're given everything. Even a supposedly bad unit like mutalisks is insanely powerful when it's Serral using them.
Part of my believes that Maxpax has micro that is comparable to Serral, but he's gimped by protoss. They were nerfed so often, they're kinda pathetic.
One Queen per Hatch means Zerg loses every single game at Masters or higher. Creep only close to buildings mean Zergs would never make it into GM. You need to learn the absolute basics of the game & get to at least Masters with all races before making balance suggestions.
@@hivetech4903 It's just visible if it's not close to buildings. I don't have to be master to know that your race is overpowered.
@elomellow1623 Look at the balance stats on aligulac, you have no idea what you're talking about. I play random btw 😂
Serral’s game IQ is what makes him so good. He never takes fights that he shouldn’t and he always finds a way to win.
@@philh2932It's not just Serral. Most top-tier zergs are able to dominate games while playing extremely greedy, because it's very difficult to punish them.
Meanwhile, if protoss or terrans make a mistake against them, it's over instantly.
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It's getting harder every day to be an enthusiast of this game. There is clearly no parity of strength between the 3 races. Maybe there is between terran and zerg. We already watch the games knowing that the protoss will probably lose. I admire the protoss players; Playing knowing that your race is rubbish compared to others can't be easy. This explains a little why this game wasn't as successful as BW and is forgotten.
hydralisk imba ....
😶🌫
Wow, he lost the toss, what a novelty, no one would be the best Protoss on the planet, it is a race that is simply garbage, the guy only made Hydra and since what Protoss unit can you make 1 and win vs Zerg balance?
Spoiler Shield! Like this comment to make sure people aren’t spoiled by the top comment.
Can we have a version of this comment that protects us from Protoss players complaining about balance?
Yes it does make you sound like a Zerg fanboy. Because Toss is laughably underpowered compared to Zerg.
Just a reminder. There are actually good casters like winter and pig on youtube. Stop wasting your time on lowkos subpar casting and watch them instead. Zerg lovers can stay here. Noone else panders to zerg as much as lowko.
Well, we always can challange Serral or Clem to win any important tournament playing protoss. CAN YOU SERRAL? CLEM?? I DARE YOU!
Carrier is not the answer. Just forget it.. They turn it into a worthless pathetic ballon over the years. In fact, I was shocked to see protoss after a decade. Carriers may still be good on a 2x2 and so on.. but if you were able to build 10 carriers on a 1x1 then you would win anyway. By the way, would be fun to see HerO and Maxy in the same team in a 2x2 😂. They need to make this happen lol. See.. there is hard counters. Not ideal but even against hard counters you may try to fight it and even win or flee. BUT THERE IS NO ESCAPE AGAINST VIPERS! It's even worse than a hard counter. Free kill is not a hard counter, it just turns the game ugly. Balance this unit against protoss omg.
Honestly giant ships should be immune to getting hooked. Carriers mothership and Bc's come to mind.
Problem if you do that is then the viper become almost useless. That skill is either OP or useless. There is no middle point.
@@polca4love well, protoss seems to be the weakest race here, then maybe vipers could be nerfed a little bit at the abduction hability, in my point of view. I wonder if they could implement different levels of energy required for abduction, for example. Abduct a colossus costing more than abducting a stalker. Same for expansive big ships, should cost more energy than abducting a tank. I think vipers are OK vs terran. And at least the mothership should be imune, cmom! Colossus would be a slight more viable option again, since protoss have not much, and relying more in yolo or surprising styles to win. You wont be surprising Serral in a best of 7, I agreed.
Look how raynor uses carriers. Works for him when playing toss
@@sashasemennikov157 even mass adepts sometimes works