Wondering why Golden didn't go with a set more similar to the *excellent* heavy body modern color theory set (i.e., more of a split primary plus white set [and perhaps add the black in place of the PGBS]). The purple possibilities here really suffer with only the warm red and no purple. Not meant as a criticism, but more of a question about why this choice of colors for a set, especially since vibrant purples are notoriously hard to achieve with no cool red or purple included. I'd definitely get the Diox Violet Deep or Red Violet in addition to this set. It is also just interesting that so many of the reds in the So Flat range are warm. Is it hard to make matte and/or opaque cool reds and violets? Are the Quins just too transparent? Would love to see an article about developing this line, including the challenges of getting matte, opaque colors, in Just Paint! (Because I am a pigment nerd and love your technical articles!)
I feel like you are correct about the opacity limiting their ability to make cool reds. The red violet includes quin magenta, but it is mixed with ultramarine blue and white and is still only semi-opaque.
Hello (Just) Heeler, sorry for the very delayed reply. The best answer/response I can offer is that we're not through yet. The palette of SoFlat colors is likely to grow, and we'll fill in some of the gaps you're finding in the color space (cool red, possibly) and we may be able to elaborate on the set selection when we have more colors to choose from. As you very astutely point out, we can't quite make an eight color mixing set with the same capabilities as our Heavy Body Modern Mixing set from the colors currently available in SoFlat. I am also sorry that I can't give you a timeline for that -- as is the case with most of our products right now, supply chain issues have thrown all forecasts and estimates out the window.
These look amazing but how can someone who works for Golden refer to red, blue and yellow as primary colours? The purple and green made by just mixing those look crap and this is why.....
Hello Nick, sorry you feel that way about the mixtures. We refer to red, blue and yellow as primary colors because you cannot mix colors to create them (conversely, you can mix them to create other - secondary or tertiary - colors). What would you call them?
@@GoldenPaints Yes but that just isn't true. You can make Red by mixing magenta and yellow so red is a secondary colour. Also, you can make blue by mixing Magenta and Cyan so it's also secondary. The only one you got right is yellow which yes, is a primary colour. If you think I'm wrong then look inside an average printer and tell me what colour the inks are. Id be very surprised if they are red, blue and yellow ;) Red, green and blue are the secondary colours; orange and purple are actually tertiary colours...
@@GoldenPaints Oh and to elaborate on why green and purple will always look bad compared to the orange... When mixing red and yellow to make orange you are actually mixing magenta and yellow (which is red) plus more yellow so only two primaries (just more yellow than magenta) so it looks great. With green however you are mixing magenta and cyan (which is blue) plus yellow, which makes all three primaries (so it looks mucky). And with purple you are mixing magenta and cyan (which is blue) plus magenta and yellow (which is red) so again, all three primaries. For a green that's as vivid as the orange you need to mix cyan and yellow and for a vivid purple mix magenta and cyan (but more magenta).
I love these. Basic colors that you can build from and play with.
Omg ! Love seeing all that beautiful paint !
Looks great, got my set on order to come in a few days, exciting! ❤️
Wondering why Golden didn't go with a set more similar to the *excellent* heavy body modern color theory set (i.e., more of a split primary plus white set [and perhaps add the black in place of the PGBS]). The purple possibilities here really suffer with only the warm red and no purple. Not meant as a criticism, but more of a question about why this choice of colors for a set, especially since vibrant purples are notoriously hard to achieve with no cool red or purple included. I'd definitely get the Diox Violet Deep or Red Violet in addition to this set.
It is also just interesting that so many of the reds in the So Flat range are warm. Is it hard to make matte and/or opaque cool reds and violets? Are the Quins just too transparent? Would love to see an article about developing this line, including the challenges of getting matte, opaque colors, in Just Paint! (Because I am a pigment nerd and love your technical articles!)
Agree, maybe they will see our comments and answer.
I feel like you are correct about the opacity limiting their ability to make cool reds. The red violet includes quin magenta, but it is mixed with ultramarine blue and white and is still only semi-opaque.
Hello (Just) Heeler, sorry for the very delayed reply. The best answer/response I can offer is that we're not through yet. The palette of SoFlat colors is likely to grow, and we'll fill in some of the gaps you're finding in the color space (cool red, possibly) and we may be able to elaborate on the set selection when we have more colors to choose from. As you very astutely point out, we can't quite make an eight color mixing set with the same capabilities as our Heavy Body Modern Mixing set from the colors currently available in SoFlat. I am also sorry that I can't give you a timeline for that -- as is the case with most of our products right now, supply chain issues have thrown all forecasts and estimates out the window.
Ooooo love these!!! From California North 💗💞
These intrigue me‼️
Why no Red with a blue bias like Alizarin or more preferably PR264. Yes I see the PR254 but that is a warmer red.
These look amazing but how can someone who works for Golden refer to red, blue and yellow as primary colours? The purple and green made by just mixing those look crap and this is why.....
Hello Nick, sorry you feel that way about the mixtures. We refer to red, blue and yellow as primary colors because you cannot mix colors to create them (conversely, you can mix them to create other - secondary or tertiary - colors). What would you call them?
There are multiple primary sets depending on whether you're working with: additive color, subtractive color, a CMYK palette, or a RYB palette.
@@GoldenPaints Yes but that just isn't true. You can make Red by mixing magenta and yellow so red is a secondary colour. Also, you can make blue by mixing Magenta and Cyan so it's also secondary. The only one you got right is yellow which yes, is a primary colour. If you think I'm wrong then look inside an average printer and tell me what colour the inks are. Id be very surprised if they are red, blue and yellow ;)
Red, green and blue are the secondary colours; orange and purple are actually tertiary colours...
@@GoldenPaints Oh and to elaborate on why green and purple will always look bad compared to the orange...
When mixing red and yellow to make orange you are actually mixing magenta and yellow (which is red) plus more yellow so only two primaries (just more yellow than magenta) so it looks great.
With green however you are mixing magenta and cyan (which is blue) plus yellow, which makes all three primaries (so it looks mucky).
And with purple you are mixing magenta and cyan (which is blue) plus magenta and yellow (which is red) so again, all three primaries.
For a green that's as vivid as the orange you need to mix cyan and yellow and for a vivid purple mix magenta and cyan (but more magenta).