Mezzanine Build Part 2. mounting post brackets & post ,building beams , sub floor & stairs
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- in this part I anchor all the post brackets I made , put the beams together , mount the post and beams , put on joist hangers and install the joist , install the advantech sub floor , and build the stair case
Hey Ken appreciate your videos I have the exact same shop and I've actually been copying some of the things you've done because they've been great ideas.... question your loft is 10 ft tall and does it come out 10 ft from the back wall because when I measure out to my first structural pillar that's 20 ft and that just seems too big for a loft and it takes up too much of the open area so also besides the height and depth of the Loft would you change the size of it for any reason it seems like 20 ft would just be too deep and take up too much of that big open space especially if you're going to put in a car lift and stuff like that and because of you I found out I could put the black insulation in the roof and I did that and I like it it's really neat looking now
Hey Joe, thanks ! My loft is actually 12' off the back wall, and the floor height is 10' . Yeah, I originally thought I'd want it 20' also, but I'm glad I went with the 12' . I'm actually really happy with the layout of mine as is . I had thought maybe I should have gone with 9' floor to give more height upstairs but as it is now the my toolbox open I still have room between the lid and ceiling fan above it so again glad I did stick to the 10' floor . It's awesome that you went with the black insulation. Everyone seems to like it in mine when they see it in person, too . Thanks again for watching, and it's awesome that I could inspire some ideas for yours, too ! I think I answered everything and feel free to reach out if I can answer anything else
I'll let you know thank you so much for the info I'm going to go measure it out right now and see how it looks
@JoesCountryGarage good deal! Good luck on deciding
I have yet to see someone post-supporting a loft/mezzanine in a steel building, and that is what im currently planning in our 30x50x16. Glad to see it works and how clean it is. Well done, and I'll stay tuned.
Thanks , I appreciate that ! Yeah, it seemed to work well, and it was the simplest/most cost-effective way I could think to do it without losing too much floor space down below. Thanks again, and good luck with yours !
Thanks. I feel the same way. Space is always limited. Havent decided if Im going to document our build, its been so long since I released a video haha. Cool if I drop you a line if I have any questions? Elec engineer was out today, cant wait to hear what the bill for a new pole is gonna be....
@sspadventures9374 yep it sure is . I know I wasn't the best at documenting mine but I tried to catch as much as I could but it definitely made it harder to get stuff done and my help definitely gave me confused or annoyed looks every time I held up progress because I wanted to move a camera or replace a battery or something lol but I'm still glad I did because even though I'm no expert I figured I could share what another average Joe went though to do it himself vrs just paying someone and showing a final product. Yeah for sure I'm happy to share info or help in anyway if I can . Nice , I was surprised mine wasn't more but it was still more then I was hoping for but I did get lucky the nearest pole was under 100' from the back corner of my building but they did have to upgrade that transformer so I'm sure I paid for some of that too lol. Well good luck and fell free to hit me up if there's anything I can help answer I gladly will . Thanks again for watching!
I'm a hobbyist wood worker. That titebind 3 is strong. The construction adhesive fills gaps better, but isn't nearly as strong. Just found your channel a couple weeks ago. Great stuff.
Nice , yeah, I see tons of wood workers using it to permanently bond wood together for furniture and other stuff, so I figured it would work well for this too . The 2x10s aren't as smooth as a freshly planned board but smooth enough, lol. Thanks again for watching. I appreciate it !
Unrelated to this video but what thickness insulation did you use for walls and roof? Also I appreciate the videos cause my building is being delivered this month and it's basically what your have. So any ideas I can get from you are great. But you know when you watch others videos and the people give more detailed HOW TO instructions or show you closer what they did, for example the second board needed for the stairs or the board nailed to the floor, somehow if you could show that stuff it would be great for visual reference. I know your not a master builder but I like seeing the way people do things more closely whether it be right or wrong. And because of your videos I was able to get my ceiling insulation in BLACK which I never new existed.
So the roof is r-19, and the walls are r-13 . Thanks ! Yeah I try to show as much as I can but being newer to recording things I'm doing I tend to forget to actually record stuff or to keep checking the battery to make sure it's still recording or like in those examples you said I had my dad helping me and he already doesn't like the idea of being recorded so it was just stuff I didn't think to stop and show that detail but it is all things I'm trying to be more concise of so in the future I can have that kind of detail captured. It's been a lot harder then I thought to keep focused on what's being recorded because I'm one of those people that when I get focused on the task I'm doing I forgot about other stuff like eating or recording haha but I'm trying it get better about it . But thanks again for the compliments and input I greatly appreciate it , I honestly enjoy getting feedback on this stuff as it helps me grow and try to hone in on correcting my faults to hopefully do better on the next . Doing these videos has actually helped keep me more motivated on projects even though it makes them take longer to complete, so again, I appreciate you watching and your feedback! And congrats on your new building coming. My buddy/electricians dad just ordered one of these buildings but 30x30x14 and wants me to help them put it up so if he allows me ill try and record some of his and maybe work on trying to capture more detail then . Anyway, thanks again!
Do you feel that the R19 6inch Roof insulation is that much better than the R13 4inch. I originally ordered 4inch R13 for roof and walls but I'm thinking I should upgrade the roof to R19 but they want another $2600. I'm already into this thing for alot of money. I'm just looking for your opinion. Obviously more insulation is always better but if you even remember what do you think?
@Joseph Halas so I can't say if there honestly would be a noticeable difference or not but I can say because the roof gets a direct sun load all day it's more likely to radiate more heat then the walls so I'd think the thicker might help that some . If I could have afforded or picked a thicker option or one that didn't get sandwiched between the sheetmetal and frame I would have opted for that but I couldn't afford or justify that cost difference to do more than what I did . We haven't had a full week of over 80° days yet but we had 2 in a row last week with no hvac yet in there the warmest it got was 69° ( my thermometer is on the roof of my green truck) so I'm sure the temp was warmer up near the ceiling and upstairs but I leve 2 fans on just to circulate air . My coldest temperature inside since the doors been up was 51° with no heat and getting below freezing or almost to freezing for like 4-5 nights straight and only low 50s during the day . So I feel like it's doing pretty well . In my area, r19 ceiling & r13 walls are the standard/minimum for homes so I figured that would be good enough for my shop to in hopes it wouldn't over work my heating and cooling and after seeing the Temps it maintains without any I'd say it should be fine and don't think my mini splits will run much or very hard when they do to keep it comfortable year round but I'll let you know in a few weeks when I finally install them lol. Hope some of that made sense and helped a little but I'd say if it's not too late to upgrade and you can afford to I'd go for it but if not and depending on your area you might not notice a difference but hard to say honestly
Ignorant question sorry I have many. Why are the beams on top of the bigger beams outward facing? i.e. why are the cut pieces on the outside and not inwards?
Not ignorant at all lol, so I put the notch in the post for the beams to sit on towards the front to keep the face of the post , beam and wall all flush . Where I messed up/was too lazy or didn't preplan was I should have gotten 20' long 2x10s to build my beams out of but no where within like an hour 20 min from me had any so I got I think 16s and that wasn't long enough to lace the beams together to make one long beam so I just split them up to land on each post and bolt them to the post with carriage bolts. If I were to have done it over I would have gotten the 20' 2xs to make the beams out of . Hope that makes sense and is helpful
@@kenschopshop 6x6 beams are how long then how deep are the notches you cut out of the big beams?
@miners_treasures on the 6x6 post I notched them 3" in and 9.5" down to keep the double 2x10 beams to sit flush in the notch
@@kenschopshop can't donate to you yet? Need to get you bunches more subs!!!
@miners_treasures yeah I'm not sure how any of that donation type stuff works . Yeah I'm trying to get them lol they are slowly coming up . Thanks again for watching and the support!
Hi Ken. Great vid. Just noticed your vid. What did you use to fasten the 2-2X10 to the posts? Did you use nuts and bolts or construction screws? I'd like to grab a metal building and doing the same. I once rebuilt a porch and had to hang the beam almost like you did. But I used a clamp and a block of wood to set one end of the beam on. Then the other end I lifted it up and set it in place. You did a great job man. Kudos.
Thanks I appreciate it ! I used 1/2" x 7" carriage bolts to anchor the beams to the post with just a washer and nut on the back of the post . For the post brackets to the post I used 1/2" x 7" bolts nuts and washers .
Watched every video you have posted, great job.
Did you reveal the company that sold you the building?
Thanks! I greatly appreciate it ! Yes, I got the building kit from Maverick Steel buildings in Georgia, and I dealt with Josh there at Maverick he was great to deal with .
how wide are the stars?
The stairs are 4' wide . Thanks for watching!
Would you change the width if you had to do it over again? I'm wondering if 3' would be too narrow.
@@kenschopshop
@coppertune9124 I thought about doing 3' just to save a little floor space but having them 4' to be able to carry bigger stuff up the steps was the better option for me that and the stair treads and risers I bought came in 4' already so I was just using all the material I paid for . And also with putting my compressor and stuff under the stairs the 4' is better for that too
Finally i found a barndominium type build that the structure is made of steel like how I want to build mine one day., been wondering about using wood internal walls on the metal structure and what happens when the weather gets warm. 👍👍👍
Thanks , I'll probably frame up the rest of the lower walls in the next few weeks so when I do I'll post a bit more detail this time .
Look up Texas barndominium, they do some steel frame structures with wood inernals
use a 2 gang plaster ring 1/2 or 5/8 and a over size cover should work on those receptacles.
Yeah that's what my electrician was telling me too but I was thinking about making a sheetmetal cover that screws to the wall over them and makes them look a little bigger and give it a little more of an industrial look . I designed a cover in fusion 360 just need to send it to a buddy to have them cut out . But if I end up not doing it I'll eventually do what you were saying
@@kenschopshop Good luck😀
Try use diamond plate decora 2 gang cover
@James R thanks lol yeah originally I was fine with the rs covers in the square hole like they are now but the more I got thinking about it and trying to be fancier or different I decided to try and reinvent the wheel haha
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Great video.. so the posts are 6X6, and the beams are 2 2x10s?
Thanks I appreciate it! Yes 6x6 post and 2- 2x10s for the beams and 2x10 floor joist also . I wanted to do the beams longer but couldn't find anywhere that had 2x10x20' in stock that was less then 100 miles from my house at the time
@@kenschopshop I bought a place a couple years ago with a 40x60 metal building, and i have been trying to figure out the best way to do exactly what you're doing.. room on stilts basically.. since you can't put any load on the metal building. I plan to copy this, intently :D Thank you so much!
@Travis Cooke awesome! Yeah, this was the best and most cost-effective way I could think of to make good use of the space . If you have any questions, hit me up. I'd be happy to answer whatever I can .