A couple things stood out to me in this video: sin ruins us, people, and communities, sin is an offense to God. Also, it is clearly written in the bible should we consider in sin so that grace may abound... definitely Not!
"Without holiness, no one shall see God" Hebrews 12:14 Our goal should be, living our lives trying to sin-less and not looking to be cuddled in our sin. The Bible is our standard, that's what we all will be judged by not the words of anyone else spitting out what we want to hear. The more we seek after God by His Holy Spirit, the less we desire to sin. May God give us wisdom!
Jesus covering all sin isn't license to continue in sin and unfortunately even in the Body of Christ willful sin is still operating thus the need to address it.
That's basically the bottom line with people. They don't even wanna TRY to work on washing themselves. They'll go hard pleasing a man/woman before they do he that'll kill body and spirit.
That's 1 answer the main answer is because of our fallen world as mankind that's the real reason. Which is why we look to the perfect person Jesus as the cross.
2 Corinthians 7:10 (NIV) Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death. (NLT) For the kind of sorrow God wants us to experience leads us away from sin and results in salvation. There’s no regret for that kind of sorrow. But worldly sorrow, which lacks repentance, results in spiritual death. Godly sorrow (over our sins and in us acknowledging our need for Jesus) leaves no regret but leads us to God's salvation! Amen!
I feel that some pastors/preachers dwell on sin in order to make people turn away from sinful lifestyles, but that is a work of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the one that will help us turn from our sinful ways, not ourselves and not the preacher yelling from the pulpit.
I have enjoyed these conversations, I just want to add I think Hebrews 10:26 covers this question well. It’s like if you’re married and your spouse says they love you but continues to mistreat or cheat on you at some point you have to question their love for you, so If we continue to willfully sin it shows how we truly feel about God and our relationship with Him. Therefore I think that’s why preachers continue to harp on sin and obedience.
We need to ask the question of what do you mean by overemphasizing instead of laying it on what they think that is. The church should not be treated as we always get it wrong.
I'm not sure if dwelling on sin is the issue as much as the emphasis should be on the holiness of God and the payment for sin Romans 3:23, Roman's 6:23 1st Peter 1:13-15. We have left behind the basic tenets of faith: Repentance, sanctification, and holy living. To emphasize these things is to be accused of being legalistic. We need to understand both the holiness and the grace of God.😄❤.
Balance in every area, or at least most areas.. stability in mind, residence, a growing/changing career, health, mental clarity, friendships that are not just church based, a basic understanding of global topics, hobbies that have nothing to do with church or "churchy" things. This doesn't mean everything is good all the time but there is some peace (fruit of the Spirit) in their lives
Sexual sin is the only category of sin that we excuse because "we can't help who we love." Do some preachers speak more loudly and focus on sexual sin? Sure. But then that's largely because so many are excusing it. We don't really have to harp on murder or armed robbery or reckless driving because nobody is vehemently defending those.
i don't think this is true at all. also, you compared sexual sin to sins that are illegal and which most of the population doesn't engage in so it's a weird comparison.
The strength of the Gospel is greatly diminished when one does not realize the pervasiveness and the universality of the strength of sin. The strength of sin requires the power of God! The Gospel is that power! (Romans 1:16). And if one is to preach the Gospel, under the unction of the Holy Spirit, you will have a raised sensitivity toward sin because one of the Holy Spirit's prime jobs is to convict (not condemn) the world and the Church of sin (John 16:8).
This is also showing many people are being half taught on salvation doctorine. If you lead a person to chrisg, they must first repent and be baptized in the holy spirit
John 16:8 clearly says that the Holy Spirit will convict the world of sin. It does not say the church. Also, 1 Cor 15:56 says, "The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law."
So that means all these people who have cheated on their spouses weren't really "saved" right? Or does it really mean they don't fear God because fearing him isn't taught?
@@mosesscriptural1820 Hating sin doesn't equate to not committing sin. Sinning is human nature. As long as we are human... Born again or not, sin will be part of our life.
If you're going to a church that doesn't talk about sin and condemnation, find a new church. Sin and condemnation is why Christ had to come and live the life that He lived, die the way He did, and rise from the grave. We were stuck in sin and condemnation and couldn't get out on our own.
The whole counsel of God speaks of sin, it's originator, our sinful nature and it's remedy! You can't be a conveyor of the gospel and not speak about sin, it's an impossibility.
That's religion. Religion introduces fear but relationship introduces love and grace. There are a lot of religious people kinda like the pharisees when they brought the Lady caught in adultery to christ to condemn her.
@@drescorpio1114 .. hmmm..I'm not sure that the Pharisee's religiosity had much to do with condemning the woman. It had more to do with trapping Jesus. They only brought the woman to Jesus and not the man, hence if Jesus condemned her he would've been breaking the law. According to law back then, you needed both parties... So if Jesus came to fullfil all of the law, he couldn't be guilty of breaking it. Soo...see the contrast?
Is Christianity now teaching disobedience the new obedience? I'm hearing Greco-Roman spiritualization versus concrete understanding of an Eastern book. What is sin, biblically?
Confusion.... that's what happens when you have a book full of rules and a pastor says, "Weeell you really don't have to follow that....if your spirit is right, you'll just automatically live right." Really?? Well what if I want to sleep with my married co-worker cuz she fine and been coming at me? "Weeelll son you must not be full of the spirit." How bout this....."Thou shall not", means exactly that....God told us to fear him for a reason. You don't cross someone you fear..... "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man." Ecclesiastes 12:13 But why do that when you're saved no matter what after you say a few magic words? Doesn't make sense does it?
You're not saved into rules and regulations but into relationship. If you're in right relationship with Him through His Son, then as His Son said, "Do my commands/keep my commandments". We all have issues with the relationship and some have issues far greater in number and magnitude than others. To your point, confusion plays a very large and sometimes unnoticed role.
@@bobbydawkins3 Bro what you just said would be confusing to somebody new in the word. That's the problem. "Keep my commandments" period. The confusion stems from Roman Christianity's doctrine of law & grace. They twist people up in Paul's writings. It's not supposed to be complicated.
Because that’s not the “Good News” the Gospel of Christ should be our focus. The Blood of Christ covers all who confess Him as Lord & Savior. Why focus on defeated foes! Live for Christ!
You guys don't understand sin because you've abandoned the instructions and have spiritualized away the need for obedience. You think Messiah took away the need to obey for obedience. That's not biblical. Reread what he said in Matt 5:17-21 or Peter says Acts 3:18, James 2 and what John says about the saved in Rev 12:17,14:12, 22:13-18. Don't be an outsider.
So why not have folks focus on the fruits of the spirit and John 10:10? And not fire and brimstone (Gal 5:19-21) If ur focused on the fruits of the spirit, one won't have time to do evil
Also there will be mistakes that one makes in life. I had fun, and learned a TON in the movement I went to in my teen years and young adult years..I dated in that movement, HOWEVER, we all have to keep in mind if we are led by the Holy Spirit, sometimes we are moved to another place..
He covers them, if you repent and stop doing them,. If you have heart for God and his ways. He doesn't cover sins that you intentionally do and continue doing. Its difficult when people think they are saying something w/o any research of true knowledge.
If you live a consecrated lifestyle you won't dwell on sin because there will be no conviction, however if you are not living right your mind will dwell on it.
If you don’t preach sin, holiness then you are not preaching the Gospel…. We don’t need a savior if there is no sin… we won’t understand the gravity, the gift of salvation, we won’t worship our God the way He deserves to be worshipped if we don’t understand sin, if we are not called out about sin. we have to understand God is WITHOUT sin, God is Perfect, makes no mistakes, and can not wrong us, we have to understand that we are sinful, and that God is Holy and Just and a Holy God loves us enough to have made a way for us to have relationship with Him in having laid our punishment and judgment on His Son… that’s the basis of our Faith…If a church isNOT preaching about sin.. RUN
Very well said....The whole point is to stop sinning...but people don't like being called on how they're living... "My little children, these things write I unto you, 👉🏽that ye sin not.👈🏽 And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. 1 John 2:1
From all the death and destruction going on in the world, if one still has to preach "fire and brimstone" and how sin kills then they are fools..."Just hold onto Jesus" isn't comforting when your struggling with a family tht is dealing with generational addiction/malnutrition/poverty...In today's fast paced world I think everyone knows what sin looks like and it's effects
@@selenasimmons6653 I appreciate your comment 🙂 I will be honest I do not completely understand what you mean so if my reply misrepresents what you are saying forgive me……. If you don’t teach that sin separates us from our creator, that sin deceived us into believing a life apart from God is and can be good, that sin breaks families, that sin makes us selfish, let’s us dishonor our neighbors, that sin keeps us from loving ourselves rightly, that sin is why we don’t love each other well …. and that sin has us looking for peace and relief is drugs and any other created thing rather than God… if you don’t teach that what are you teaching in a church….. I have been addicted to substances, I have been addicted to sex, I have have been so disappointed and depressed with the condition of the world and my life that I cut myself with razors and glass everyday and honestly everything I looked to to make me feel better, to make life make sense, it was all insufficient…. Knowing that God is good, that God intended and created a world free of sin, perfect in every way with sickness and death and evil and frustration and restlessness… and that creation was deceived into believing that the best of things were not good enough, that God wasn’t good enough that God was withholding something good…that makes sense to me… then to know that creation messed up, were disciplined but given a promise by God that He would make things right again, that He would repair, reconcile, redeem…. That he would make a way to for a now sinful people unqualified to walk with God to one day in all their imperfection walk with a perfect God again…. That is the type of hope I needed…. I had so many identity issues, and knowing God, the creator of EVERYTHING loves me, more than anyone in this broken world …. And that He has a plan for my life… it gave me freedom…. Yes the world is full of horror , and we can be poor here and sick and addicted, but also God can and is a helper and a comforter and eventually this world will pass away and eternity will be a paradise where no sin or evil or bad will ever be
@@oldschool5 Humans did not create God, and sin isn’t some made up concept either, we see it, feel it, propagate it everyday… no one would say the world we live in is perfect, without problem, without deep pains, without violence and heartache and wickedness, and fear, and darkness…..
Calling sin out doesn't resolve the issue of sinning. Were humans created in flesh or did they become flesh? If flesh is sin, then why does the church not focus on getting rid of the flesh? How did Jesus get rid of his flesh since he became flesh as humans did?
Wow. Once again, the guest didn't answer the question. He quoted a bunch of scriptures. The host answered the question about sin very well; she made it plain. I understand it well. This is why the youth leave the church. Preachers always throwing scriptures that is Greek to most. That's why Jesus spoke in parables so they could understand. You have to speak to the youth in their language where they can understand; make it plain, and then use the scriptures to reference to their life.
I slightly agree...the Scriptures are Greek to those who don't study them..As one who has studied the scriptures he used he did answer the question...The host did give a better explanation...when bible study is taught and encouraged, then folks can explain using the scriptures
Read Matthew 13 again and you'll see Jesus didn't talk in parables bc it made sense to his audience. None of his parables made sense to even his apostles. He would have to talk to his apostles in private and explain the parables to them. Isaiah prophesied their eyes wouldn't be able to perceive even though they see and they wouldn't be able to hear even though they listened. Only those who actively seek the truth and accept it will be able to see and hear what God wants us to see and hear and it should change us for the better. We shouldn't continue in our sins. Even though it's in our nature to sin we should be actively trying to turn away from them.
Question what did the guy dressed in all black with dreads explain to the lady. She asked why do pastors over emphasize sins if Christ died for our sins. The answer is we are supposed to keep the laws, statutes, and commandments so we can get eternal life. That’s the reason Christ died for our sins so we can have grace to get our lives in order. That does not mean to keep sinning pastors have to keep bringing it up because people keep sinning. Rev. 22:14 that was a simple answer.
IN THE BOOK OF ACTS THEY KEPT SHABBATS LAWS STATUES AND COMMANDMENTS GOD SAYS IF YOU LOVE HIM OBSERVE OBEY KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS YET THE SO CALLED CHURCH SAYS DO AWAY WITH IT
John 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, Look, the lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! Jesus did not covered our sin, He took it away once and for all.
This pastor did not address this question well. People, please read the Bible for yourself and don't just depend on men. In Matthew 7:21-23, Jesus said “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Jesus and his apostles gave many other warnings like this. For example, in Matthew 24:42-51 he warns his servants that if they backslide he will come like a thief (when they least expect him) and assign them a place with the hypocrites where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth (talking about hell). So to answer the question of why some preachers tend to dwell more on sin, it is because they have a better understanding of the scriptures to know that Jesus didn't die for us to continue in sin, but for us to be forgiven when we repent (turn away from sin) and follow Jesus. The Bible is clear about this for those who don't ignore scriptures in order to please people. Hebrews 10:26-30 says "If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." All of these scriptures are talking to "so called" believers in Jesus, and there are plenty more of them. Preaching about sin is NOT about beating people down, but about raising God's standards and encouraging people to live the way God commands us to. People who only want to focus on "God's love" and avoid talking about sin purposely ignore the truth of "God's wrath" and hell as if God only loves everyone. If that were true then there would be no one going to hell. The real truth is that it is not "love" when we fail to warn our neighbors about the greatest danger they face (which is eternal damnation if they don't turn from their sins); all because we're trying to be cool with them or scared to offend them or scared they'll leave our churches. Jesus offended folks so much that they killed him on a cross with no one to intervene. People today make him seem like this timid character that's afraid to offend people and doesn't want his followers offending people. That's not the truth or the real Jesus who talked about sin and hell and told the adulterous woman "go now and leave your life of sin" (John 8:11).
Hello@@oldschool5. A key word in my statement is don't "just" (only) depend on men. I'm referring to those who don't go back and read for themselves, but only lean on pastors' or denominational interpretations instead. This is dangerous because it creates the scenario of the blind leading the blind. I'm not against people listening to others altogether, as God's servants are supposed to spread God's word to the ends of the earth. However, people are being harmed and misled by bad doctrine (misinterpretations of scripture) by both individuals and denominations. Yet, itwill still be one's own fault in the end when they stand before God at judgment, if they did not take the time to seek God for themselves for the truth and about what He desires (which is most important in life).
@@oldschool5 hi. To add to his statement, the Bereans didn't just take Paul's word to be as good as gold but searched the scriptures daily themselves to validate everything he said(Acts 17). Also, God instructs us in His Word to put all things to the test (1 Thess 5:21). Don't depend solely on man for reading the Bible or anything for that matter since man is an arm of flesh (Jeremiah 17:5) but trust in the Lord. You can have a modicum of confidence in certain people to assist you so that you don't make the error of studying in a vacuum but trusting in Him is the way.
@@bobbydawkins3 I see what you sayin but there has to be an absolute trust in man to get to where you talkin about. Man told you that his written words are the words of a god. You happen to trust and believe man when he has made those claims. If you dont give man total control, you would never know the god of the bible. You allow man to speak to you on behalf of god... that is one of the highest forms of trusting man... and the ONLY way to god of the bible is through man. There is no dealing with god without putting your full trust into the words of man There are millions of people all over the world who have never seen a bible and know nothing about bible god...and they never will until man tells them about bible god. They will be here on earth waiting for man to tell them about a god who will never go beyond man to introduce himself. You gotta trust man to get to god of the bible
ACTS 21:20 AND WHEN THEY HEARD IT THEY GLORIFIED THE MASTER AND SAID UNTO HIM THOU SEEST BROTHER HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF YAHUDIMS (JEWS) THERE ARE WHICH BELIEVE AND THEY ARE ALL ZEALOUS OF THE LAW
History repeating itself. The devil has the same tactics of condemnation to make people beat themselves up. The same way the scribes and Pharisees highlighted and shamed people for sin because they were considered chosen is the same things that are being done today. Hebrews 9:26-27 AMP makes it clear when Jesus comes back, He is not coming back for sin. The focus on sin is to place people in mental bondage and have the afraid to live life because of sin.
Have you considered that the Holy Spirit is the one convicting people about their sin (John 16:7-9)? You mention Hebrews 9:26-27, but what about Hebrews 10:26-31 warning us about continuing in sin? We should be afraid to sin, but that doesn't equate to being afraid to live our lives. Jesus tells us to fear God in Luke 12:4-5: “I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him." Please understand that sin is nothing to take lightly before God. If people are shamed because of sin, that is from God, and it should lead them to repentance and later righteousness (Ezekiel 18:20-32). Now, if they feel they can't be forgiven, perhaps that could be from the devil, but sometimes it is true (Judas for example) because God's forgiveness is not infinite as many people claim.
These comments lack compassion as love for our neighbors. You don’t slap people over the head with scripture when they are Not from or in the church. You teach!
How dare anyone tell you to quit doing wrong things! Good grief. This question comes from entirely outside reality! Is there any greater blasphemy than saying that because Jesus had to die for our sins then we can sin all we want?
@@jamesengland7461 she wanted someone to help her understand and grow. These people aren't claiming to be highly mature in Christ. They've said people drove me away from church. Here are the reason help me understand it. They with people who would respond saying that doesn't bother me verses helping them understand the questions they have.
NEHEMIAH 1:5 AND SAID I BESEECH THEE O YAHOSHUA POWER OF HEAVEN THE GREAT AND TERRIBLE POWER THAT KEEPETH COVENANT AND MERCY FOR THEM THAT LOVE HIM AND OBSERVE HIS COMMANDMENTS DANIEL 9:4 AND I PRAYED UNTO YAHOSHUA MY POWER AND MADE CONFESSION AND SAID O YAHOSHUA THE GREAT AND DREADFUL POWER KEEPING THE COVENANT AND MERCY TO THEM THAT LOVE HIM AND TO THEM THAT KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS JOHN 14:21 HE THAT HATH MY COMMANDMENTS A KEEPETH THEM HE IT IS THAT LOVETH ME AND HE THAT LOVETH ME SHALL BE LOVED OF MY FATHER AND I WILL LOVE HIM AND WILL MANIFEST( REVEAL) MYSELF TO HIM
Because The world operates by a divine order. Sin is disorderly behavior originating in disorderly beliefs. Forgiveness eliminates the past to provide a “clean slate” for Disciples (ones who obey the disciplines of the divine order). Some disciplines that are associated with “white supremacy” are orderly principles that render orderly outcomes. The orderly outcomes are available to all practitioners!
@@bailofhay978 what he is talking about is beyond the gospels. Divine order says that women give birth to children. Man wrote in a book that a full grown woman came from the rib of a sleeping man. Divine order is the authority over what man put in a book. Certain folks choose to be bound by the gospels but we are all under divine order
This convo is very problematic. They are speaking over these peoples heads. The answer is simple. Why does preacher keep preaching about sin? Cause he is supposed to......
How about STOP calling bad experiences and bad roads people go down, Sins!! Help them in their experiences. Calling people sinful is like calling black people the N- word. This is what these young people want the church to stop doing!🤔🙄
Let me say this to all of you here on this podcast, you all should be a shame of your wicked selves, coming on the internet talking all of those dark and dumb saying with out knowledge of the HOLY SCRIPTURE AS IT IS WRITTEN, let me say this to you all the MOST HIGH hate sin and sinner who do not want to change your wicked evil way of life, all religion are going to the lake of fire, the only people that will have life eternal is those who will read the CHEPER obey and do for your life to change get out of sin, and get born again the HOLY SCRIPTURE way, now this Question is for all of you here what is sin??? And who is sin??? You have to give three answers for each Questions that I put up here, so that the conversation to go on, make your choice it is all up to you all now I make sure that I tell you all I lie not, I will be waiting for your correct answers SHALUM.
A couple things stood out to me in this video: sin ruins us, people, and communities, sin is an offense to God.
Also, it is clearly written in the bible should we consider in sin so that grace may abound... definitely Not!
"Without holiness, no one shall see God"
Hebrews 12:14
Our goal should be, living our lives trying to sin-less and not looking to be cuddled in our sin.
The Bible is our standard, that's what we all will be judged by not the words of anyone else spitting out what we want to hear.
The more we seek after God by His Holy Spirit, the less we desire to sin.
May God give us wisdom!
Jesus covering all sin isn't license to continue in sin and unfortunately even in the Body of Christ willful sin is still operating thus the need to address it.
That's basically the bottom line with people. They don't even wanna TRY to work on washing themselves. They'll go hard pleasing a man/woman before they do he that'll kill body and spirit.
This forum is becoming irritating, because seems like they're coming from a place of immaturity and lack of study
What is obedience biblically?
@@Rodney-1972 you are not seriously asking this question are you? Before I answer your question do YOU know what obedience is.
Exactly Hebrews 10:26
We dwell on them because we haven't learned to forgive ourselves, Satan greatest weapon is shame ... Can't wait to see this podcast
Real talk
That's 1 answer the main answer is because of our fallen world as mankind that's the real reason. Which is why we look to the perfect person Jesus as the cross.
And grace extinguishes shame. Grace is the answer.
2 Corinthians 7:10
(NIV) Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.
(NLT) For the kind of sorrow God wants us to experience leads us away from sin and results in salvation. There’s no regret for that kind of sorrow. But worldly sorrow, which lacks repentance, results in spiritual death.
Godly sorrow (over our sins and in us acknowledging our need for Jesus) leaves no regret but leads us to God's salvation! Amen!
I feel that some pastors/preachers dwell on sin in order to make people turn away from sinful lifestyles, but that is a work of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the one that will help us turn from our sinful ways, not ourselves and not the preacher yelling from the pulpit.
The moderators did a FANTASTIC job of answering those questions.. on all the episodes.. .. great great conversation and information!
This provoked so much in me: Amens and Hallelujahs and uncomfortable wrestlings!!! I love this series!!!!!
Sin is discussed from Genesis to Revelation..........so what's the problem.......and WHY is there not an elder among them to guide this conversation.
I think that's part of the problem: There's no elders among them to teach the whole counsel of God.
I have enjoyed these conversations, I just want to add I think Hebrews 10:26 covers this question well. It’s like if you’re married and your spouse says they love you but continues to mistreat or cheat on you at some point you have to question their love for you, so If we continue to willfully sin it shows how we truly feel about God and our relationship with Him. Therefore I think that’s why preachers continue to harp on sin and obedience.
The two moderators were spittin in this episode! Well said and right on the money. Powerful segment
We need to ask the question of what do you mean by overemphasizing instead of laying it on what they think that is. The church should not be treated as we always get it wrong.
It doesn’t just harms people. Sin harms us!
Sin harms us, our families, our communities, the world, the environment every thing…. A church that doesn’t preach sin is unloving and dangerous
@@LenaBOOMBeana the church understands that if there was no sin, folks would have no purpose for the church. So they have to preach sin.
Excellent point! I asked the same question about the use of "overemphasizing".
@@oldschool5 that is untrue. The church is the body of Christ. It is always needed
I'm not sure if dwelling on sin is the issue as much as the emphasis should be on the holiness of God and the payment for sin
Romans 3:23, Roman's 6:23
1st Peter 1:13-15. We have left behind the basic tenets of faith: Repentance, sanctification, and holy living. To emphasize these things is to be accused of being legalistic. We need to understand both the holiness and the grace of God.😄❤.
Define healthy lives.
Balance in every area, or at least most areas.. stability in mind, residence, a growing/changing career, health, mental clarity, friendships that are not just church based, a basic understanding of global topics, hobbies that have nothing to do with church or "churchy" things. This doesn't mean everything is good all the time but there is some peace (fruit of the Spirit) in their lives
Sexual sin is the only category of sin that we excuse because "we can't help who we love." Do some preachers speak more loudly and focus on sexual sin? Sure. But then that's largely because so many are excusing it. We don't really have to harp on murder or armed robbery or reckless driving because nobody is vehemently defending those.
You can help who you love
@@BeWiseLegette absolutely! In fact, you'd better use all your wisdom and discernment and watch for red flags and be selfless
Speak fa yaseeelph. I can help who I love. Lol. Just kaint help who loves me
@@whatshatnin4572 lol
i don't think this is true at all. also, you compared sexual sin to sins that are illegal and which most of the population doesn't engage in so it's a weird comparison.
Upon this ROCK I build My church and the gates of hell shalt not prevail against it. Thank you
Sometimes people don’t allow you to forget and keep bringing it up to condemn you.
This was so helpful. Thank yall, I have been really enjoying this series and I think it is SO necessary 👏🏽👏🏽🙌🏽
The strength of the Gospel is greatly diminished when one does not realize the pervasiveness and the universality of the strength of sin. The strength of sin requires the power of God! The Gospel is that power! (Romans 1:16). And if one is to preach the Gospel, under the unction of the Holy Spirit, you will have a raised sensitivity toward sin because one of the Holy Spirit's prime jobs is to convict (not condemn) the world and the Church of sin (John 16:8).
Excellently stated and quite to the point
Awesome
This is also showing many people are being half taught on salvation doctorine. If you lead a person to chrisg, they must first repent and be baptized in the holy spirit
Amen!!!
John 16:8 clearly says that the Holy Spirit will convict the world of sin. It does not say the church. Also, 1 Cor 15:56 says, "The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law."
I love that he speaks on Romans chpt 8. If you are really born again, you are led by the Spirit and you will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh.
So that means all these people who have cheated on their spouses weren't really "saved" right? Or does it really mean they don't fear God because fearing him isn't taught?
Lead by the spirit or not... We all will struggle with sin for the rest of our days.
@@ElGEtheGreat speak for yourself. I would say tempted. To me that's not the same as "struggling". There's actually people out here that hate sin.
@@mosesscriptural1820 Hating sin doesn't equate to not committing sin. Sinning is human nature. As long as we are human... Born again or not, sin will be part of our life.
If you're going to a church that doesn't talk about sin and condemnation, find a new church.
Sin and condemnation is why Christ had to come and live the life that He lived, die the way He did, and rise from the grave. We were stuck in sin and condemnation and couldn't get out on our own.
The whole counsel of God speaks of sin, it's originator, our sinful nature and it's remedy! You can't be a conveyor of the gospel and not speak about sin, it's an impossibility.
It is the goodness of God that draws men n women to repentance.
5:59 Time Stamp (then keep listening)
8:29 Discusses the passage of being SET FREE.
Spiritually lead lifestyle could/should be the result.
Girl dis series good!
When focus more on what we should do and become and treat others sin decreases.
Great conversation.
The COGIC and Holiness Church lead the way in condemning people over sin.
That's religion. Religion introduces fear but relationship introduces love and grace. There are a lot of religious people
kinda like the pharisees when they brought the Lady caught in adultery to christ to condemn her.
@@drescorpio1114 .. hmmm..I'm not sure that the Pharisee's religiosity had much to do with condemning the woman. It had more to do with trapping Jesus. They only brought the woman to Jesus and not the man, hence if Jesus condemned her he would've been breaking the law. According to law back then, you needed both parties... So if Jesus came to fullfil all of the law, he couldn't be guilty of breaking it. Soo...see the contrast?
Most of these questions can and could be answer if you just read the scripture.
Great question
Another episode yayyyy!!
Is Christianity now teaching disobedience the new obedience? I'm hearing Greco-Roman spiritualization versus concrete understanding of an Eastern book. What is sin, biblically?
Confusion.... that's what happens when you have a book full of rules and a pastor says, "Weeell you really don't have to follow that....if your spirit is right, you'll just automatically live right." Really?? Well what if I want to sleep with my married co-worker cuz she fine and been coming at me? "Weeelll son you must not be full of the spirit." How bout this....."Thou shall not", means exactly that....God told us to fear him for a reason. You don't cross someone you fear.....
"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man." Ecclesiastes 12:13
But why do that when you're saved no matter what after you say a few magic words? Doesn't make sense does it?
You're not saved into rules and regulations but into relationship. If you're in right relationship with Him through His Son, then as His Son said, "Do my commands/keep my commandments". We all have issues with the relationship and some have issues far greater in number and magnitude than others. To your point, confusion plays a very large and sometimes unnoticed role.
@@bobbydawkins3 Bro what you just said would be confusing to somebody new in the word. That's the problem. "Keep my commandments" period. The confusion stems from Roman Christianity's doctrine of law & grace. They twist people up in Paul's writings. It's not supposed to be complicated.
Because that’s not the “Good News” the Gospel of Christ should be our focus. The Blood of Christ covers all who confess Him as Lord & Savior. Why focus on defeated foes! Live for Christ!
You guys don't understand sin because you've abandoned the instructions and have spiritualized away the need for obedience. You think Messiah took away the need to obey for obedience. That's not biblical. Reread what he said in Matt 5:17-21 or Peter says Acts 3:18, James 2 and what John says about the saved in Rev 12:17,14:12, 22:13-18. Don't be an outsider.
Great response
Lisa you are doing a great job
Awesome episode
So why not have folks focus on the fruits of the spirit and John 10:10? And not fire and brimstone (Gal 5:19-21) If ur focused on the fruits of the spirit, one won't have time to do evil
Also there will be mistakes that one makes in life. I had fun, and learned a TON in the movement I went to in my teen years and young adult years..I dated in that movement, HOWEVER, we all have to keep in mind if we are led by the Holy Spirit, sometimes we are moved to another place..
Where does this young man preach? Link? Website?
He covers them, if you repent and stop doing them,. If you have heart for God and his ways. He doesn't cover sins that you intentionally do and continue doing. Its difficult when people think they are saying something w/o any research of true knowledge.
If you live a consecrated lifestyle you won't dwell on sin because there will be no conviction, however if you are not living right your mind will dwell on it.
If you don’t preach sin, holiness then you are not preaching the Gospel…. We don’t need a savior if there is no sin… we won’t understand the gravity, the gift of salvation, we won’t worship our God the way He deserves to be worshipped if we don’t understand sin, if we are not called out about sin.
we have to understand God is WITHOUT sin, God is Perfect, makes no mistakes, and can not wrong us, we have to understand that we are sinful, and that God is Holy and Just and a Holy God loves us enough to have made a way for us to have relationship with Him in having laid our punishment and judgment on His Son… that’s the basis of our Faith…If a church isNOT preaching about sin.. RUN
Very well said....The whole point is to stop sinning...but people don't like being called on how they're living...
"My little children, these things write I unto you, 👉🏽that ye sin not.👈🏽 And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. 1 John 2:1
From all the death and destruction going on in the world, if one still has to preach "fire and brimstone" and how sin kills then they are fools..."Just hold onto Jesus" isn't comforting when your struggling with a family tht is dealing with generational addiction/malnutrition/poverty...In today's fast paced world I think everyone knows what sin looks like and it's effects
We wouldn't need the vaccine if there was no covid. Humans always produce problems so you can be controlled by their solutions
@@selenasimmons6653 I appreciate your comment 🙂 I will be honest I do not completely understand what you mean so if my reply misrepresents what you are saying forgive me…….
If you don’t teach that sin separates us from our creator, that sin deceived us into believing a life apart from God is and can be good, that sin breaks families, that sin makes us selfish, let’s us dishonor our neighbors, that sin keeps us from loving ourselves rightly, that sin is why we don’t love each other well …. and that sin has us looking for peace and relief is drugs and any other created thing rather than God… if you don’t teach that what are you teaching in a church….. I have been addicted to substances, I have been addicted to sex, I have have been so disappointed and depressed with the condition of the world and my life that I cut myself with razors and glass everyday and honestly everything I looked to to make me feel better, to make life make sense, it was all insufficient….
Knowing that God is good, that God intended and created a world free of sin, perfect in every way with sickness and death and evil and frustration and restlessness… and that creation was deceived into believing that the best of things were not good enough, that God wasn’t good enough that God was withholding something good…that makes sense to me… then to know that creation messed up, were disciplined but given a promise by God that He would make things right again, that He would repair, reconcile, redeem…. That he would make a way to for a now sinful people unqualified to walk with God to one day in all their imperfection walk with a perfect God again…. That is the type of hope I needed…. I had so many identity issues, and knowing God, the creator of EVERYTHING loves me, more than anyone in this broken world …. And that He has a plan for my life… it gave me freedom…. Yes the world is full of horror , and we can be poor here and sick and addicted, but also God can and is a helper and a comforter and eventually this world will pass away and eternity will be a paradise where no sin or evil or bad will ever be
@@oldschool5 Humans did not create God, and sin isn’t some made up concept either, we see it, feel it, propagate it everyday… no one would say the world we live in is perfect, without problem, without deep pains, without violence and heartache and wickedness, and fear, and darkness…..
Calling sin out doesn't resolve the issue of sinning. Were humans created in flesh or did they become flesh? If flesh is sin, then why does the church not focus on getting rid of the flesh? How did Jesus get rid of his flesh since he became flesh as humans did?
Omg who is this pastor?
Wow. Once again, the guest didn't answer the question. He quoted a bunch of scriptures. The host answered the question about sin very well; she made it plain. I understand it well. This is why the youth leave the church. Preachers always throwing scriptures that is Greek to most. That's why Jesus spoke in parables so they could understand. You have to speak to the youth in their language where they can understand; make it plain, and then use the scriptures to reference to their life.
I slightly agree...the Scriptures are Greek to those who don't study them..As one who has studied the scriptures he used he did answer the question...The host did give a better explanation...when bible study is taught and encouraged, then folks can explain using the scriptures
I agree. He lost me after his third sentence. I knew once he started he was a preacher. His words were preachy.
Read Matthew 13 again and you'll see Jesus didn't talk in parables bc it made sense to his audience. None of his parables made sense to even his apostles. He would have to talk to his apostles in private and explain the parables to them. Isaiah prophesied their eyes wouldn't be able to perceive even though they see and they wouldn't be able to hear even though they listened.
Only those who actively seek the truth and accept it will be able to see and hear what God wants us to see and hear and it should change us for the better. We shouldn't continue in our sins. Even though it's in our nature to sin we should be actively trying to turn away from them.
Question what did the guy dressed in all black with dreads explain to the lady. She asked why do pastors over emphasize sins if Christ died for our sins. The answer is we are supposed to keep the laws, statutes, and commandments so we can get eternal life. That’s the reason Christ died for our sins so we can have grace to get our lives in order. That does not mean to keep sinning pastors have to keep bringing it up because people keep sinning. Rev. 22:14 that was a simple answer.
IN THE BOOK OF ACTS THEY KEPT SHABBATS LAWS STATUES AND COMMANDMENTS GOD SAYS IF YOU LOVE HIM OBSERVE OBEY KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS YET THE SO CALLED CHURCH SAYS DO AWAY WITH IT
How many times can Jesus die for your sins
John 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, Look, the lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! Jesus did not covered our sin, He took it away once and for all.
You got to be in the new covenant for them to be forgiven.
This pastor did not address this question well. People, please read the Bible for yourself and don't just depend on men. In Matthew 7:21-23, Jesus said “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Jesus and his apostles gave many other warnings like this. For example, in Matthew 24:42-51 he warns his servants that if they backslide he will come like a thief (when they least expect him) and assign them a place with the hypocrites where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth (talking about hell). So to answer the question of why some preachers tend to dwell more on sin, it is because they have a better understanding of the scriptures to know that Jesus didn't die for us to continue in sin, but for us to be forgiven when we repent (turn away from sin) and follow Jesus. The Bible is clear about this for those who don't ignore scriptures in order to please people. Hebrews 10:26-30 says "If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." All of these scriptures are talking to "so called" believers in Jesus, and there are plenty more of them. Preaching about sin is NOT about beating people down, but about raising God's standards and encouraging people to live the way God commands us to. People who only want to focus on "God's love" and avoid talking about sin purposely ignore the truth of "God's wrath" and hell as if God only loves everyone. If that were true then there would be no one going to hell. The real truth is that it is not "love" when we fail to warn our neighbors about the greatest danger they face (which is eternal damnation if they don't turn from their sins); all because we're trying to be cool with them or scared to offend them or scared they'll leave our churches. Jesus offended folks so much that they killed him on a cross with no one to intervene. People today make him seem like this timid character that's afraid to offend people and doesn't want his followers offending people. That's not the truth or the real Jesus who talked about sin and hell and told the adulterous woman "go now and leave your life of sin" (John 8:11).
How can you read the bible and NOT depend on man
Hello@@oldschool5. A key word in my statement is don't "just" (only) depend on men. I'm referring to those who don't go back and read for themselves, but only lean on pastors' or denominational interpretations instead. This is dangerous because it creates the scenario of the blind leading the blind. I'm not against people listening to others altogether, as God's servants are supposed to spread God's word to the ends of the earth. However, people are being harmed and misled by bad doctrine (misinterpretations of scripture) by both individuals and denominations. Yet, itwill still be one's own fault in the end when they stand before God at judgment, if they did not take the time to seek God for themselves for the truth and about what He desires (which is most important in life).
Amén
@@oldschool5 hi. To add to his statement, the Bereans didn't just take Paul's word to be as good as gold but searched the scriptures daily themselves to validate everything he said(Acts 17). Also, God instructs us in His Word to put all things to the test (1 Thess 5:21). Don't depend solely on man for reading the Bible or anything for that matter since man is an arm of flesh (Jeremiah 17:5) but trust in the Lord. You can have a modicum of confidence in certain people to assist you so that you don't make the error of studying in a vacuum but trusting in Him is the way.
@@bobbydawkins3 I see what you sayin but there has to be an absolute trust in man to get to where you talkin about. Man told you that his written words are the words of a god. You happen to trust and believe man when he has made those claims.
If you dont give man total control, you would never know the god of the bible. You allow man to speak to you on behalf of god... that is one of the highest forms of trusting man... and the ONLY way to god of the bible is through man.
There is no dealing with god without putting your full trust into the words of man
There are millions of people all over the world who have never seen a bible and know nothing about bible god...and they never will until man tells them about bible god. They will be here on earth waiting for man to tell them about a god who will never go beyond man to introduce himself. You gotta trust man to get to god of the bible
As long as we are in this earth suit we will have issues. That's why Paul wrote 1 Corinthians 15. Read please!
ACTS 21:20 AND WHEN THEY HEARD IT THEY GLORIFIED THE MASTER AND SAID UNTO HIM THOU SEEST BROTHER HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF YAHUDIMS (JEWS) THERE ARE WHICH BELIEVE AND THEY ARE ALL ZEALOUS OF THE LAW
History repeating itself. The devil has the same tactics of condemnation to make people beat themselves up. The same way the scribes and Pharisees highlighted and shamed people for sin because they were considered chosen is the same things that are being done today. Hebrews 9:26-27 AMP makes it clear when Jesus comes back, He is not coming back for sin. The focus on sin is to place people in mental bondage and have the afraid to live life because of sin.
Have you considered that the Holy Spirit is the one convicting people about their sin (John 16:7-9)? You mention Hebrews 9:26-27, but what about Hebrews 10:26-31 warning us about continuing in sin? We should be afraid to sin, but that doesn't equate to being afraid to live our lives. Jesus tells us to fear God in Luke 12:4-5: “I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him." Please understand that sin is nothing to take lightly before God. If people are shamed because of sin, that is from God, and it should lead them to repentance and later righteousness (Ezekiel 18:20-32). Now, if they feel they can't be forgiven, perhaps that could be from the devil, but sometimes it is true (Judas for example) because God's forgiveness is not infinite as many people claim.
These comments lack compassion as love for our neighbors. You don’t slap people over the head with scripture when they are Not from or in the church. You teach!
How dare anyone tell you to quit doing wrong things! Good grief. This question comes from entirely outside reality! Is there any greater blasphemy than saying that because Jesus had to die for our sins then we can sin all we want?
Listen to it again. She didn't say to keep sinning. She said way do preachers beat people up with the Bible.
@@cbrooks880 it's clearly implied.
Unfortunately, you come across as the exact person they are talking about.
@@cbrooks880 that does not bother me. She does not want to hear about sin in general.
@@jamesengland7461 she wanted someone to help her understand and grow. These people aren't claiming to be highly mature in Christ. They've said people drove me away from church. Here are the reason help me understand it.
They with people who would respond saying that doesn't bother me verses helping them understand the questions they have.
NEHEMIAH 1:5 AND SAID I BESEECH THEE O YAHOSHUA POWER OF HEAVEN THE GREAT AND TERRIBLE POWER THAT KEEPETH COVENANT AND MERCY FOR THEM THAT LOVE HIM AND OBSERVE HIS COMMANDMENTS
DANIEL 9:4 AND I PRAYED UNTO YAHOSHUA MY POWER AND MADE CONFESSION AND SAID O YAHOSHUA THE GREAT AND DREADFUL POWER KEEPING THE COVENANT AND MERCY TO THEM THAT LOVE HIM AND TO THEM THAT KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS
JOHN 14:21 HE THAT HATH MY COMMANDMENTS A KEEPETH THEM HE IT IS THAT LOVETH ME AND HE THAT LOVETH ME SHALL BE LOVED OF MY FATHER AND I WILL LOVE HIM AND WILL MANIFEST( REVEAL) MYSELF TO HIM
Because The world operates by a divine order. Sin is disorderly behavior originating in disorderly beliefs. Forgiveness eliminates the past to provide a “clean slate” for Disciples (ones who obey the disciplines of the divine order). Some disciplines that are associated with “white supremacy” are orderly principles that render orderly outcomes. The orderly outcomes are available to all practitioners!
Lisa's answers were very good. People should also approach a church, considering what they can contribute.
Interesting
@@bailofhay978 what he is talking about is beyond the gospels. Divine order says that women give birth to children. Man wrote in a book that a full grown woman came from the rib of a sleeping man. Divine order is the authority over what man put in a book. Certain folks choose to be bound by the gospels but we are all under divine order
Need a more concise answer please
This convo is very problematic. They are speaking over these peoples heads. The answer is simple.
Why does preacher keep preaching about sin? Cause he is supposed to......
Exactly.
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How about STOP calling bad experiences and bad roads people go down, Sins!! Help them in their experiences. Calling people sinful is like calling black people the N- word. This is what these young people want the church to stop doing!🤔🙄
The bible calla people sinful. Cause humans are sinful
Lawd the young women is looking for perfection.
Let me say this to all of you here on this podcast, you all should be a shame of your wicked selves, coming on the internet talking all of those dark and dumb saying with out knowledge of the HOLY SCRIPTURE AS IT IS WRITTEN, let me say this to you all the MOST HIGH hate sin and sinner who do not want to change your wicked evil way of life, all religion are going to the lake of fire, the only people that will have life eternal is those who will read the CHEPER obey and do for your life to change get out of sin, and get born again the HOLY SCRIPTURE way, now this Question is for all of you here what is sin??? And who is sin??? You have to give three answers for each Questions that I put up here, so that the conversation to go on, make your choice it is all up to you all now I make sure that I tell you all I lie not, I will be waiting for your correct answers SHALUM.