@@luciansteph I really can’t say if I was I would say the krimson princess is cause this is the second time I purchased it this first time I repotted it and it died lol so I got it again and just left it alone and it is now doing good lol. I also have a Australias Lisa, wayetii, and burtoniae, I just leave them alone and water them and so far they are thriving will not try to repot no time soon. They are all on the back porch and growing but no blooms. If they are happy so am I.
@roslynchandler7043 it’s funny you should say that. My Krimson Princess has been a little challenging for me. But I didn’t add it to the list since I think I need to adjust my care. But you’re right it’s not as straight forward as some other Hoya. Happy growing! 😆🪴
omg that's so funny my variegated heuschkeliana is such an easy grower. 😂 although I am thinking about repotting her soon and not gonna lie, pretty nervous lol. it's so interesting to see the different hoya people struggle with!
Hehe ikr. I agree. I was thinking the same when I was watching your video and you mentioned your Latifolia. Mine is one of my best growers. I guess it happens like that sometimes. It sure keeps things interesting. Hope your repotting goes well. Happy growing!😆🪴
It’s SO interesting that the first three are the same ones I am struggling with (also in Canada) . Tequila Sunrise is still a one leaf cutting 7 months later
I’m sooo glad I’m not the only one having a hard time time with the heuschkeliana. I killed two of those plants already when I attempted to switch medium. The plants just ends up rotting and wouldn’t adapt. I have another one coming but I’ll have to leave it in whatever medium it comes in 😅 it’s a beautiful plant but it is tricky to root without rotting
@@lucianstephjust fyi, orchid bark or coco husks alone don’t provide the nutrients that Hoyas need. Neither bark or husks contain nutrients or hold them, and that’s why it’s important to look up how to blend your own soil for epiphytes 🪴. It’s totally worth it!
My Hoya Rebecca is a mealy bug magnet! It is a good bloomer. My favorite Hoyas are ‘Sunrise’, Shepherdii and Hoya heuschkeliana. They are fast growers.
My super silver and heuschkeliana are doing well but I live in hot and humid Texas and they are outside. The heuschkeliana did fine through the winter last year. She’s a slow grower though. My most difficult one is Royal Flush, loses leaves, won’t grow. I’ve moved it to a shadier spot and then I moved it inside. The rest of my 40 Hoya are outside and doing well even my Thomsonii which I’ve heard can be tricky.
Outside wow! I couldn't even dream of it. Sounds like you've got the most amazing conditions for Hoya. If that Royal Flush is giving you a hard time I will stay very far away from it hehe. Thanks for sharing. Happy growing!!
Have you tried just using Leca? I recommend watching some of The Leca Queen videos on Hoyas she's awesome! She has a huge Hoya Heuschkeliana Variegata! Also, if you are not using any nutrients in your water propagation they will take forever to grow. Some of my Hoyas got root rot because the soil was too soggy. I hope this information helps.
I’ve seen her videos. She’s amazing! I’ve tried Lecca but only my Alocasia seem to enjoy it. It’s also not my favourite medium to work with. 😓Thanks for the tips though. 🤗🪴
Orchid spray works wonders. It makes Hoya bloom. Even my Hoya Imperialis bloomed. I don’t keep any of my Hoya in any type of hydroponics method because Hoyas are semi succulents plants. Too much water will definitely root rot them . I’ve been growing them for years.
It’s true, they behave like succulents but I find them quite thirsty. My best growers are the ones that can help themselves to water either in sent hydro or a self watering pot. 🤷🏽♀️ Growing conditions are important though. Without enough light, they could fail under semi hydro and rot. Sounds like your technique works great for your care style and growing conditions. 👍🏽👍🏽🪴🪴
Hi! This is my first time watching your channel. I love the vibe and you have a great voice! For Hoya, the Unsolicited Plant Talks channel and The Sober Plant Guy both grow in coco chips. They absorb water and the chunks leave lots of air pockets for the roots, since they are epiphytes. I’m all for keeping it simple. If you’re having root rot problems, you might try that. Just make sure to buy buffered coco chips; I did not and buffering them myself has been a chore. The Sober Plant Guy also has a big, beautiful Rebecca. And his video on supply basics and pest prevention are great. I now use his spray recipe to keep pests away and wash the plants. I really like it! You mentioned you didn’t know if Hoya Michele should be with one “l” or two “l.” The Hoya Michele is named after an Italian botanist and Hoya hunter Michele Rodda. So Michele, is the Italian version of the male name Michael: MEE-kay-lay. I know I was surprised to learn it wasn’t the common feminine name Michelle!
👋🏽Hi! Welcome! 😊 Thank you 😆 Great tips! Yes I enjoy Sober Plant Guy’s videos too. So glad the tips are working for you. Thanks for sharing. Buffered chips sound interesting. I’ll look into them when my existing chips run out. I’ve seen his Rebecca too! #goals hehe. Happy growing! 😆🪴
@@luciansteph I ended up going down a rabbit hole when my Plantonix coco chips said they should be buffered as directed on the package… then provided no directions on how to buffer them. Coco coir and chips are processed near ocean coasts and often use salty sea water to do it. These salts remain in the material (possibly even if they are washed) and the negatively charge salt ions will attract the positively charges calcium and magnesium ions in fertilizers, thus keeping it from your plants. There is very little information on how big a problem this is and how to buffer them, despite just about every source telling you they need to be buffered before using them. The best info I could find was for every 1.5 kg of rehydrated coco coir/chips soak it in a solution of 100g of calcium nitrate and 15 L of water for 36 hours. So you have to buy an extra product, do extra work, and wait 36 hours before you can use it. I was not anticipating the extra work.
I’ve got through 3 krohniana or lacunosa silvers, (can’t tell the difference) and 2 sigilatus, no idea what the problem was, and 3 compactas before I figured out the watering, a wayettii variegated, etc etc etc I’m starting to transfer the Hoyas I absolutely love to semi hydro
Wow 😓 I’m sure you would’ve learned alot about Hoya from that experience. I just got a wayetii. Is there anything that you think I should know? Yes I agree. Semi hydro and self watering have worked the best for my Hoya.
Right my two penneth worth on the subject. 😂😂😂 Firstly I live in the UK in the South west with hot summers and very dim winters for light. I grow four hoyas all have the same treatment and all flower and grow happily. Never use semi hydro I only use soil mix. One cup of perlite, orchid bark, shredded sphagnum moss and tree fern fibre in equal measure with added slow release Fertiliser. Basically an aroid mix. All have maximum light at all times and have a holiday outside in the summerhouse through the summer when they can be subject to high temps and bright direct light. The silver leaved varieties particularly respond to this with masses of growth and almost non stop flowering. The one thing I wanted to say more than anything is I have found they need to dry out considerably in between watering. Mine all go bone dry in between hence why I don’t use semi hydro, pon or just perlite. I’ve never found these substrates work very well. Well…. For me anyway. This system works for me and they must be the easiest plants in my collection to. As a foot note they all grow alongside my forest cacti Rhipsalis, Epiphyllum/Disocactus, Selenicereus, Hylocereus, Pseudorhipsalis + Lepismium with the hoyas nearest the windows and the cacti behind. Anyway that’s what I’ve found if that helps at all.
Yay! That’s awesome! So glad you’re having success with your Hoya. Like you mentioned, growing conditions and care style differ. My Hoya LOATHE drying out, esp my thin leafed ones. The more succulent ones can tolerate it. Letting them dry out could be why yours bloom so frequently. 😅 I don’t think I have the bravery to let them get that far. Although I enjoy blooms, I prefer them for foliage anyways so I guess it works out. Thanks for watching. 🪴🪴
@ yes absolutely. It depends where you are in the world massively. I think keeping my hoyas dryer helps them deal with the cold in the winter and as you said probably does trigger them to flower so much as they are stressed a little. It’s fascinating to me how others grow these families of plants. That’s why it’s so addictive and great fun. I wish you all the best! 🪴🪴🪴
I ordered a Krinkle 8 one time, and it came in the pot with a bunch of cuttings, with tiny roots. one of the cuttings didn't fit right in the pot, so I put it in a smaller pot alll alone, and it was 2 leaves, it took 1.5 years before it started growing! I almost gave up on it so many times, but I just left it, watered it ever week, as the 2 leaves were green and firm, it now has 6 leaves! my main plant has been a prolific grower like most carnosas just that one took forever.
Your determination deserves a slow clap! 👏🏽 I think it also goes to show that sometimes the health of a cutting/plant could affect its growth. Thanks for sharing! Happy growing! 😆🪴
I agree with hoya Rebecca. I've tried three of these in the last 10 years. I've found they don't like to dry out and don't like to get cold. Both of which killed two of mine. I now grow it in a greenhouse. It's reddish color from the grow lights, but isn't growing. I can't figure it out. I have gotten it to bloom and it's spectacular.
Oh dear. That’s rough. It’s comforting that I’m not alone though. Just chopped mine up a few days ago and had to restart it. 😓 it’s quite dramatic that plant 😅
I have 2 hoya that have been struggling but I'm not sure if ID. They were given to me but I'm suspicious of flat mites and am considering sulfur treatments. I will say that I have good luck rooting my hoyas in sphagnum moss and transferring them to Molly's Aroid Mix or something chunky. I use grow lights. I do have some Hoya in leca but most are in chunky mix. I usually water about once a week. My variegated Heuschkeliana is my first, and only, hoya in my collection to ever bloom for me - all versions of the Heuschkeliana are my absolute faves. The flowers smell like butterscotch. ☺️ it sounds like some of your issues with rot might be from keeping the potting medium moist for too long. A lot of hoya are epiphytic and appreciate airflow. Hope that helps!
I love rooting in Sphag. It’s just getting it off the roots that’s annoying. That’s amazing that your Heuch is growing well for you. I think I’m over the hump with mine but it was by far the most trouble so it deserved #1 spot. 😅 Yes, I’ve heard flat mites can affect growth. Hope it’s not that but treatment couldn’t hurt. Thanks for watching and for the tips. Happy growing! 😆🪴
Thank you thank you i did gess the #1 most difficult hoya. I just got 2 very small plants and the little leaves are just dropping whether wet or dry and i only had them about 3 weeks now. The kronias silver i did had that same experience and lost a whole big mature plant but its true about the cuttings rooting easily so i still have it. Thanks for such an interesting and enlightened video. When we first start to collect hoyas we grab all the one that are different to add to the collection not knowing not all of them will thrive in our areas. Shouting you from Barbados keep up the good works.❤❤
Waymaniae needs high humidity and bright light. Mine is in my cabinet with about 75% humidity and 12hrs under 2 barina T5s and it’s growing super fast for me.
I killed several lacunosas before I got the hang of it! They are thirsty, but they like to drain and get air on their roots. I have found that self-watering pots will solve just about any problem for hard to grow hoyas except the ones that like mold inducing humidity!
Great video!! I believe you have a hoya krohniana silver (lacunosa has longer leaves with a less pronounced 'point', krohniana has more heart shaped leaves like yours! Also, hoyas, like orchids, have the ability to absorb nutrients through their leaves, so orchid food/spray is great for hoyas!!!
Hehe I listen just filmed a video a few days ago mentioning the difference between the two. I was saying the exact same thing. The orchid spray has been working amazingly so far. I appreciate your comment! 😊🪴
I have my Hoya Heuschkeliana Inner Variegated in a chunky aroid mix in no drainage with a lecca layer at the bottom so I can see the water level. She has done nothing but grow beautifully for me in the 8+ months I’ve had her. Everyone is always complaining about her but she’s been one of my least fussy Hoya…
My plants have learned that only the strong and draught tolerant survive with me as their ADHD caretaker. 😅 I've been quite neglectful of many of my plants for the past 6 months or so. My hoyas are all so forgiving, even when I forget to water them for like 2-3 weeks. My hoya heuschkeliana variegated is just in the little 4 inch hanging basket in the coco chips it came to me in, like a year and a half ago maybe? It's hangs by a south facing window, and it's not a super fast grower, but it's grown a good bit in the last year and a half. Especially considering that I often let that plant dry out completely and forget to water as often as I should. The leaves get a bit wrinkled and dehydrated, but they bounce back after a day or two once it gets a good watering. I wouldn't suggest these are pro tips, but I have found that sometimes when I start doing too much with my plants, they are more likely to struggle. 😆 I'm not an expert though, just a plant enthusiast the past few years, but slowed down dramatically on new purchases over the past year due to having too many plants. My most annoying hoya is my variegated kerrii. I've had that for like a year and a half, and that bish hardly grows. She pops out a new leaf or two every now and then, but after they grow for 2-3 weeks, most of the new leaves have fallen off. I think it needs a smaller pot and I've been too lazy to give it one. I also think it may not thrive on neglect of watering as much as my others tolerate. 😅 she's not that attractive, to be honest, so I haven't been super motivated to make changes. I did get a little Bluetooth/wife microscope a year or so ago to inspect all my hoyas for flat mites, especially that one, to see if that might be hindering the growing, but didn't see anything. 🤷🏻♀️
Hehe. I'm the same. It's actually one of the reason why I like Hoya. You're right. With many plants, less is more. Yeah I've heard about the Kerii's reputation of being really slow growing. I'm not at that level of patience yet. Hehe Happy growing!
I just got my first 4 this summer and I am scared. I have a krohniana silver, she had a little bit of aphids earlier that killed off new growth but now I’m keeping my eyes on it! 👀 ❤
I’m on my 4th Krohniana super silver 😂. It’s sooo pretty I really want to have it in my collection but they seem to hate me. I’m just grateful that it’s not one of those super rare expensive Hoyas 😅
Glad to know I’m not struggling alone. Khrohniana for you is like Heuchkeliana to me, except less expensive 😅Hope this is the one you get to grow beautifully. You can do it! 👍🏽🪴😆
I have all of my Hoyas in Bushdoctor Coco Loco by Foxfarm while they are small, but as they get into a 4 inch and larger I mix that with a bit of Molly's Aroid Mix and the plants thrive so maybe try that with the difficult Hoyas and see how they do. I've not lost a Hoya yet with this system. I also straight up root them in that Fox Farm soil listed above.
I have a HoyaRebecca. I had it about 3 months-not problems. It is in the same medium and clear cup that I received it. It is outside on my deck. I do have problems with my It is dry difficult. I had lots of problems with my heuschkeliana. Hopefully your information will help me keep it alive. I a. Oh familiar with the other Hoyas in this video.
Not all Hoyas do well in pon, in my experience and lots of research. The ones that have larger & more succulent leaves with woody stems, do not perform well in pon because the plant already stores water in its leaves, and a pon/self-watering pot combo keeps the environment too wet, causing rot. Hoyas with smaller leaves, such as Hoya Serpens & Hoya (Lacunosa) Silver Mint Coin, do really well in pon. Those are the only 2 out of my 84 Hoyas that are in pon! Also, pon relies on adding nutrients, but an airy epiphytic soil mix has the organic matter for Hoyas to thrive. Once I was able to mix my own perfect blend of airy soil, I transferred so many of mine from pon to soil, and all of them grew like crazy and looked healthier/fuller. So, I feel like pon is “okay”, but it’s definitely not a long-term solution for me. Plus it’s more expensive than purchasing great components to make your own large bin of soil - more cost effective! Don’t be afraid of soil - use coco husks/coco chips, large perlite, small amount of an organic soil such as Fox Farm, horticultural charcoal (smaller pieces), & vermiculite. Or, you can research soil mixture ingredients for epiphytic plants 🌱. Good luck to you and thanks for sharing your video!
I agree. I’ve made the same observation. Most of my Hoya are in a chunky soil less mixture and I’ve recently started making my own soilless mix and my thinner leafed ones are in Pon. Excellent tips! Thank you for sharing
Ack...Hoya Rebecca is my #1 plant on my wishlist. I could care less about sun stressing. It will or it won't stress and that's fine. Still will get it though. Have had zero issues with any of my hoya's. Wait...except Patcharawalai (aks Icensis). It hasn't grown much so I'm always concerned it's dying....but no real issues.
Thank you for showing off your problem hoya. May I ask, do you check your water PH? I discovered that using distilled water on my tricky hoya helps. Also your thirsty hoya will benefit as low ph dose not cause root rot, so lightly water daily. Also, do you know about flat mites? They are tiny and only sulfur kills them, I paint it dry with a brush on the entire plant. It smells, but works. I saw all my non-growing Hoya take off after a few treatments 😎
Never checked my PH. I’ll keep that in mind though. 💡 Flat mites I know about and check my plants regularly. I also spray them once a week as a preventative measure. I use horticultural oil for pest control. Seems to be effective. Great tips! Thank you for watching and sharing tips! 😆🪴 Happy growing! 🪴🪴
@@lucianstephif your not using sulfur your not controlling flat mites. They can only be seen with a microscope 😊 and as I watched and listen to you, I see/hear flat mites 😉
@Miles_Hoffman could be. But I don’t see any flat mite damage. I’ve used the tips from this video as a preventative measure. I guess time will tell. 🤷🏽♀️ th-cam.com/users/shortsm96iKMQ3nw8?si=qza590eQ89F6HJ_g
I just got a Sigilatis and it immediately pushed out two new leaves so idk if it’s tough for just yet. The Kerri is one that I will not endeavour. 😅Hope they grow better for you soon. Thank you! 🤭
I also collect rain water for all my plants. It’s the best water for them … all the plants. Water from the faucet has harsh chemicals that eventually will kill your plants.
Hey love your channel. The waymaniea is hard one also grow very strange and ugly (when it decides to grow😂). I think if you gonna take the effort to grow it you can get a better claudy sky splash wise. Rb-dick can be a nice substituted to the Larisa, she's very slow. My difficult one is meridithii by far. I think there's no hard hoya, sometime it's the spefic cutting/starter plant that is bad and if you'll get another one from some plase else it may be better. The problem is that it's very expensive to buy a second plant so you struggle with what you have🤷♀️
Hi! Thanks for watching! 😆 hehe yes, a splashier Waymaniae specimen would make the process more interesting. I think I lost the splashy cuttings in its rebellion. 😅 You’re right, the RB-dick is similar to the Larisa. 💯👏🏽agree with you. You’re at the mercy of the health of the cutting you got. Of course our care and conditions play a factor too. But not all plants of the same variety will grow the same. Happy growing! 😆🪴
My hoya callistophylla is my worst. It has not grown at all since I got it. It put out a tiny leaf once and I thought it's finally growing. It must have sensed my happiness because that little leaf fell off. I have other hoya growing out of their pots and this one and the krohniana silver. I got both of these from the same place so I don't know. It's been at least a year and neither of them have grown.
😢oh no! Not the baby leaf. That’s the worst. 😢 Could be the plant itself too. But honestly I’ve heard many people talking about how challenging the Callistophylla is. Hope your other Hoya give you joy. Happy growing! 😊🪴
Awww callistophyllas are notoriously slow growers. If the new growth continuously falls off or if you notice any discoloration or knobby stems it could be flat mite related though. Mine just started blooming this past spring after 3 yrs! Good luck!!
I only have one Hoya, I bought it about a month ago, because I thought I was “ready” to try a Hoya. I'm a newbie plant person, I’m about a year into my journey. It's a linearis. It's struggling. It came with three baby leaves and they have all dropped off. I keep telling myself to keep the faith, that’s its stress from the shipping and reacclimation… but….
Oh dear. Sorry to hear about that. I’m not quite brave enough to try the linearis yet. It strikes me as one that has a bit of a learning curve. I have some pretty Hoya that I recommend to beginners and tips. You can find them here. Hope it helps: HOYA FOR BEGINNERS| TOP 5 (+1) COMMON & UNCOMMON HOYA & TOP 5 TIPS th-cam.com/video/rJHkVCzppAA/w-d-xo.html
@@luciansteph it’s definitely not you! And also one of the reasons why I try to purchase cuttings in perlite or water it’s so much easier to get them to stay alive.
I feel vindicated I have killed so many heuschkeliana. At first I thought it was because I was buying tiny plants so I spent big money on a big one. I have a few straggly pieces left. People say it's so easy but it has not been for me.
Yes! 🙌🏽 you are not alone. I stand with you! Propagating is the hardest. If you can get past that, chunky mix, in self watering pot and never touch it again 😅. I’m rooting for you!! 🪴🪴
Why would you be using self watering pots with soil? They are more useful when using semi hydro. I have about 40 Hoyas all growing in Leca, most stared with 1 or 2 leaves. All are under 2 years, doing fantastic, lots of peduncles and many blooms. Have #10, #7, and #1, and they are thriving in Leca! Have many rarer ones also fine.
That’s wonderful! I have 1 Hoya in soil in. SWP takes the guessing out of the watering. It struggled because I let it dry out. Almost all my other Hoya are in semi hydro. This is my experience, with my conditions, in my first year of growing Hoya. Just sharing my journey. Thanks for watching. Happy growing.
I’m sooo glad I’m not the only one having a hard time time with the heuschkeliana. I killed two of those plants already when I attempted to switch medium. The plants just ends up rotting and wouldn’t adapt. I have another one coming but I’ll have to leave it in whatever medium it comes in 😅 it’s a beautiful plant but it is tricky to root without rotting
What are your most challenging Hoya? Also, any tips for me? Please share!
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I really can’t say if I was I would say the krimson princess is cause this is the second time I purchased it this first time I repotted it and it died lol so I got it again and just left it alone and it is now doing good lol. I also have a Australias Lisa, wayetii, and burtoniae, I just leave them alone and water them and so far they are thriving will not try to repot no time soon. They are all on the back porch and growing but no blooms. If they are happy so am I.
@roslynchandler7043 it’s funny you should say that. My Krimson Princess has been a little challenging for me. But I didn’t add it to the list since I think I need to adjust my care. But you’re right it’s not as straight forward as some other Hoya. Happy growing! 😆🪴
Thanks for this video!! So far, Hoya Curtisii
Oh dear 😅 I’ve heard that about it
omg that's so funny my variegated heuschkeliana is such an easy grower. 😂 although I am thinking about repotting her soon and not gonna lie, pretty nervous lol. it's so interesting to see the different hoya people struggle with!
Hehe ikr. I agree. I was thinking the same when I was watching your video and you mentioned your Latifolia. Mine is one of my best growers. I guess it happens like that sometimes. It sure keeps things interesting. Hope your repotting goes well. Happy growing!😆🪴
It’s SO interesting that the first three are the same ones I am struggling with (also in Canada) . Tequila Sunrise is still a one leaf cutting 7 months later
😅 Hopefully it’s comforting to know you’re not alone. 🪴
I’m sooo glad I’m not the only one having a hard time time with the heuschkeliana. I killed two of those plants already when I attempted to switch medium. The plants just ends up rotting and wouldn’t adapt. I have another one coming but I’ll have to leave it in whatever medium it comes in 😅 it’s a beautiful plant but it is tricky to root without rotting
I have another one coming too and I plan to leave it in the pot it's in.
I have many Hoya. In the beginning l had a problem with root rot. I switched to orchid bark and they are all thriving.
I might try it for the next set of Hoya that I pot up. Or I may try husk. Happy growing 🪴
@@lucianstephjust fyi, orchid bark or coco husks alone don’t provide the nutrients that Hoyas need. Neither bark or husks contain nutrients or hold them, and that’s why it’s important to look up how to blend your own soil for epiphytes 🪴. It’s totally worth it!
My Hoya Rebecca is a mealy bug magnet! It is a good bloomer. My favorite Hoyas are ‘Sunrise’, Shepherdii and Hoya heuschkeliana. They are fast growers.
Oooo! I’ll definitely keep that in about the Rebecca. Great picks! 😆🪴Happy growing!
Yea my Super Silver is wrinkly. Will try the orchid spray. Thx
Hope it works for you. 😊🪴
My super silver and heuschkeliana are doing well but I live in hot and humid Texas and they are outside. The heuschkeliana did fine through the winter last year. She’s a slow grower though. My most difficult one is Royal Flush, loses leaves, won’t grow. I’ve moved it to a shadier spot and then I moved it inside. The rest of my 40 Hoya are outside and doing well even my Thomsonii which I’ve heard can be tricky.
Outside wow! I couldn't even dream of it. Sounds like you've got the most amazing conditions for Hoya. If that Royal Flush is giving you a hard time I will stay very far away from it hehe. Thanks for sharing. Happy growing!!
Have you tried just using Leca? I recommend watching some of The Leca Queen videos on Hoyas she's awesome! She has a huge Hoya Heuschkeliana Variegata! Also, if you are not using any nutrients in your water propagation they will take forever to grow. Some of my Hoyas got root rot because the soil was too soggy. I hope this information helps.
I’ve seen her videos. She’s amazing! I’ve tried Lecca but only my Alocasia seem to enjoy it. It’s also not my favourite medium to work with. 😓Thanks for the tips though. 🤗🪴
Orchid spray works wonders. It makes Hoya bloom. Even my Hoya Imperialis bloomed. I don’t keep any of my Hoya in any type of hydroponics method because Hoyas are semi succulents plants. Too much water will definitely root rot them . I’ve been growing them for years.
It’s true, they behave like succulents but I find them quite thirsty. My best growers are the ones that can help themselves to water either in sent hydro or a self watering pot. 🤷🏽♀️ Growing conditions are important though. Without enough light, they could fail under semi hydro and rot.
Sounds like your technique works great for your care style and growing conditions. 👍🏽👍🏽🪴🪴
Hi! This is my first time watching your channel. I love the vibe and you have a great voice!
For Hoya, the Unsolicited Plant Talks channel and The Sober Plant Guy both grow in coco chips. They absorb water and the chunks leave lots of air pockets for the roots, since they are epiphytes. I’m all for keeping it simple. If you’re having root rot problems, you might try that. Just make sure to buy buffered coco chips; I did not and buffering them myself has been a chore. The Sober Plant Guy also has a big, beautiful Rebecca. And his video on supply basics and pest prevention are great. I now use his spray recipe to keep pests away and wash the plants. I really like it!
You mentioned you didn’t know if Hoya Michele should be with one “l” or two “l.” The Hoya Michele is named after an Italian botanist and Hoya hunter Michele Rodda. So Michele, is the Italian version of the male name Michael: MEE-kay-lay. I know I was surprised to learn it wasn’t the common feminine name Michelle!
👋🏽Hi! Welcome! 😊 Thank you 😆 Great tips! Yes I enjoy Sober Plant Guy’s videos too. So glad the tips are working for you. Thanks for sharing. Buffered chips sound interesting. I’ll look into them when my existing chips run out. I’ve seen his Rebecca too! #goals hehe. Happy growing! 😆🪴
@@luciansteph I ended up going down a rabbit hole when my Plantonix coco chips said they should be buffered as directed on the package… then provided no directions on how to buffer them. Coco coir and chips are processed near ocean coasts and often use salty sea water to do it. These salts remain in the material (possibly even if they are washed) and the negatively charge salt ions will attract the positively charges calcium and magnesium ions in fertilizers, thus keeping it from your plants. There is very little information on how big a problem this is and how to buffer them, despite just about every source telling you they need to be buffered before using them. The best info I could find was for every 1.5 kg of rehydrated coco coir/chips soak it in a solution of 100g of calcium nitrate and 15 L of water for 36 hours. So you have to buy an extra product, do extra work, and wait 36 hours before you can use it. I was not anticipating the extra work.
I’ve got through 3 krohniana or lacunosa silvers, (can’t tell the difference) and 2 sigilatus, no idea what the problem was, and 3 compactas before I figured out the watering, a wayettii variegated, etc etc etc
I’m starting to transfer the Hoyas I absolutely love to semi hydro
Wow 😓 I’m sure you would’ve learned alot about Hoya from that experience.
I just got a wayetii. Is there anything that you think I should know?
Yes I agree. Semi hydro and self watering have worked the best for my Hoya.
Yes. I use something like a shot glass size to prop hoyas
I can’t seem to find the perfect size in my area. I’ve been reusing cups from Hoya that I’ve bought. Where do you get yours?
@@luciansteph Amazon. They are the kind my dentist would have, or a bathroom for tooth brushing.
@@dianesheehan8225 gotcha. I can only find the red solo cup kind at my dollar store. Amazon it is. Thank you. 😊🪴
Right my two penneth worth on the subject. 😂😂😂 Firstly I live in the UK in the South west with hot summers and very dim winters for light. I grow four hoyas all have the same treatment and all flower and grow happily. Never use semi hydro I only use soil mix. One cup of perlite, orchid bark, shredded sphagnum moss and tree fern fibre in equal measure with added slow release Fertiliser. Basically an aroid mix. All have maximum light at all times and have a holiday outside in the summerhouse through the summer when they can be subject to high temps and bright direct light. The silver leaved varieties particularly respond to this with masses of growth and almost non stop flowering. The one thing I wanted to say more than anything is I have found they need to dry out considerably in between watering. Mine all go bone dry in between hence why I don’t use semi hydro, pon or just perlite. I’ve never found these substrates work very well. Well…. For me anyway. This system works for me and they must be the easiest plants in my collection to. As a foot note they all grow alongside my forest cacti Rhipsalis, Epiphyllum/Disocactus, Selenicereus, Hylocereus, Pseudorhipsalis + Lepismium with the hoyas nearest the windows and the cacti behind. Anyway that’s what I’ve found if that helps at all.
Yay! That’s awesome! So glad you’re having success with your Hoya.
Like you mentioned, growing conditions and care style differ. My Hoya LOATHE drying out, esp my thin leafed ones. The more succulent ones can tolerate it. Letting them dry out could be why yours bloom so frequently. 😅 I don’t think I have the bravery to let them get that far. Although I enjoy blooms, I prefer them for foliage anyways so I guess it works out.
Thanks for watching. 🪴🪴
@ yes absolutely. It depends where you are in the world massively. I think keeping my hoyas dryer helps them deal with the cold in the winter and as you said probably does trigger them to flower so much as they are stressed a little. It’s fascinating to me how others grow these families of plants. That’s why it’s so addictive and great fun. I wish you all the best! 🪴🪴🪴
100% and they’re so adaptable that many of us can enjoy them despite our different conditions! 😆 happy growing! 🪴🪴
I ordered a Krinkle 8 one time, and it came in the pot with a bunch of cuttings, with tiny roots. one of the cuttings didn't fit right in the pot, so I put it in a smaller pot alll alone, and it was 2 leaves, it took 1.5 years before it started growing! I almost gave up on it so many times, but I just left it, watered it ever week, as the 2 leaves were green and firm, it now has 6 leaves! my main plant has been a prolific grower like most carnosas just that one took forever.
Your determination deserves a slow clap! 👏🏽 I think it also goes to show that sometimes the health of a cutting/plant could affect its growth. Thanks for sharing! Happy growing! 😆🪴
I agree with hoya Rebecca. I've tried three of these in the last 10 years. I've found they don't like to dry out and don't like to get cold. Both of which killed two of mine. I now grow it in a greenhouse. It's reddish color from the grow lights, but isn't growing. I can't figure it out. I have gotten it to bloom and it's spectacular.
Oh dear. That’s rough. It’s comforting that I’m not alone though. Just chopped mine up a few days ago and had to restart it. 😓 it’s quite dramatic that plant 😅
I have 2 hoya that have been struggling but I'm not sure if ID. They were given to me but I'm suspicious of flat mites and am considering sulfur treatments. I will say that I have good luck rooting my hoyas in sphagnum moss and transferring them to Molly's Aroid Mix or something chunky. I use grow lights. I do have some Hoya in leca but most are in chunky mix. I usually water about once a week. My variegated Heuschkeliana is my first, and only, hoya in my collection to ever bloom for me - all versions of the Heuschkeliana are my absolute faves. The flowers smell like butterscotch. ☺️ it sounds like some of your issues with rot might be from keeping the potting medium moist for too long. A lot of hoya are epiphytic and appreciate airflow. Hope that helps!
I love rooting in Sphag. It’s just getting it off the roots that’s annoying. That’s amazing that your Heuch is growing well for you. I think I’m over the hump with mine but it was by far the most trouble so it deserved #1 spot. 😅
Yes, I’ve heard flat mites can affect growth. Hope it’s not that but treatment couldn’t hurt.
Thanks for watching and for the tips. Happy growing! 😆🪴
NOOOOOO!! The Heuschkeliana has been on my wish list for a long time!!
😆Hang around my channel. You’ll find some surprises about the Heuchkeliana 😉
Thank you thank you i did gess the #1 most difficult hoya. I just got 2 very small plants and the little leaves are just dropping whether wet or dry and i only had them about 3 weeks now. The kronias silver i did had that same experience and lost a whole big mature plant but its true about the cuttings rooting easily so i still have it. Thanks for such an interesting and enlightened video. When we first start to collect hoyas we grab all the one that are different to add to the collection not knowing not all of them will thrive in our areas. Shouting you from Barbados keep up the good works.❤❤
🤭 good guess! You’re right. We collect first then learn along the way. That’s part of the fun I guess! Thanks for watching!! 😆🪴
Waymaniae needs high humidity and bright light. Mine is in my cabinet with about 75% humidity and 12hrs under 2 barina T5s and it’s growing super fast for me.
I think you might be right. I need to go set up a humid area for it. 😩
You have beautiful plants
Thank you 😊🪴
I killed several lacunosas before I got the hang of it! They are thirsty, but they like to drain and get air on their roots. I have found that self-watering pots will solve just about any problem for hard to grow hoyas except the ones that like mold inducing humidity!
I totally agree. Self watering pots have saved my Hoya. 🪴
Loving your braids! 🥰
😆 thank you. 😊🪴
Great video!! I believe you have a hoya krohniana silver (lacunosa has longer leaves with a less pronounced 'point', krohniana has more heart shaped leaves like yours! Also, hoyas, like orchids, have the ability to absorb nutrients through their leaves, so orchid food/spray is great for hoyas!!!
Hehe I listen just filmed a video a few days ago mentioning the difference between the two. I was saying the exact same thing.
The orchid spray has been working amazingly so far. I appreciate your comment! 😊🪴
also, you have so many beautiful hoyas! I've been collecting hoyas for 5+ years and haven't been able to get my hands on a lot of these!!
I have my Hoya Heuschkeliana Inner Variegated in a chunky aroid mix in no drainage with a lecca layer at the bottom so I can see the water level. She has done nothing but grow beautifully for me in the 8+ months I’ve had her. Everyone is always complaining about her but she’s been one of my least fussy Hoya…
That’s fantastic. Sounds like you’ve got great conditions and care! 👍🏽👍🏽
Do you water again when the leca dries out or when the water reaches the leca? Im thinking about trying the no drainage way for mine too.
My plants have learned that only the strong and draught tolerant survive with me as their ADHD caretaker. 😅 I've been quite neglectful of many of my plants for the past 6 months or so. My hoyas are all so forgiving, even when I forget to water them for like 2-3 weeks.
My hoya heuschkeliana variegated is just in the little 4 inch hanging basket in the coco chips it came to me in, like a year and a half ago maybe? It's hangs by a south facing window, and it's not a super fast grower, but it's grown a good bit in the last year and a half. Especially considering that I often let that plant dry out completely and forget to water as often as I should. The leaves get a bit wrinkled and dehydrated, but they bounce back after a day or two once it gets a good watering.
I wouldn't suggest these are pro tips, but I have found that sometimes when I start doing too much with my plants, they are more likely to struggle. 😆 I'm not an expert though, just a plant enthusiast the past few years, but slowed down dramatically on new purchases over the past year due to having too many plants.
My most annoying hoya is my variegated kerrii. I've had that for like a year and a half, and that bish hardly grows. She pops out a new leaf or two every now and then, but after they grow for 2-3 weeks, most of the new leaves have fallen off. I think it needs a smaller pot and I've been too lazy to give it one. I also think it may not thrive on neglect of watering as much as my others tolerate. 😅 she's not that attractive, to be honest, so I haven't been super motivated to make changes. I did get a little Bluetooth/wife microscope a year or so ago to inspect all my hoyas for flat mites, especially that one, to see if that might be hindering the growing, but didn't see anything. 🤷🏻♀️
Hehe. I'm the same. It's actually one of the reason why I like Hoya.
You're right. With many plants, less is more. Yeah I've heard about the Kerii's reputation of being really slow growing. I'm not at that level of patience yet. Hehe
Happy growing!
I just got my first 4 this summer and I am scared. I have a krohniana silver, she had a little bit of aphids earlier that killed off new growth but now I’m keeping my eyes on it! 👀 ❤
Aww. Pests really slow things down. Hope it grows beautifully soon.
I’m on my 4th Krohniana super silver 😂. It’s sooo pretty I really want to have it in my collection but they seem to hate me. I’m just grateful that it’s not one of those super rare expensive Hoyas 😅
Glad to know I’m not struggling alone. Khrohniana for you is like Heuchkeliana to me, except less expensive 😅Hope this is the one you get to grow beautifully. You can do it! 👍🏽🪴😆
I have all of my Hoyas in Bushdoctor Coco Loco by Foxfarm while they are small, but as they get into a 4 inch and larger I mix that with a bit of Molly's Aroid Mix and the plants thrive so maybe try that with the difficult Hoyas and see how they do. I've not lost a Hoya yet with this system. I also straight up root them in that Fox Farm soil listed above.
I have 17 Hoya
@gingermunchkin6177 very nice!!! 👍🏽👍🏽🪴
Try propagating in perlite
Thanks got the tip! 😊🪴
I have a HoyaRebecca. I had it about 3 months-not problems. It is in the same medium and clear cup that I received it. It is outside on my deck. I do have problems with my It is dry difficult. I had lots of problems with my heuschkeliana. Hopefully your information will help me keep it alive. I a. Oh familiar with the other Hoyas in this video.
Thanks for sharing. Hope the tips are helpful. Happy growing! 😊🪴
Lol you crack me up. "it has just made that decision" 😖
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Hi Step have you heard of a Hoya benguetensis I just got this Hoya this week . I just started getting into Hoya’s this year too .
Ooo. How exciting! 😆I just looked it up. It’s pretty. Sunstresses nicely too. Happy growing! 🪴🤗
Not all Hoyas do well in pon, in my experience and lots of research. The ones that have larger & more succulent leaves with woody stems, do not perform well in pon because the plant already stores water in its leaves, and a pon/self-watering pot combo keeps the environment too wet, causing rot.
Hoyas with smaller leaves, such as Hoya Serpens & Hoya (Lacunosa) Silver Mint Coin, do really well in pon. Those are the only 2 out of my 84 Hoyas that are in pon!
Also, pon relies on adding nutrients, but an airy epiphytic soil mix has the organic matter for Hoyas to thrive. Once I was able to mix my own perfect blend of airy soil, I transferred so many of mine from pon to soil, and all of them grew like crazy and looked healthier/fuller.
So, I feel like pon is “okay”, but it’s definitely not a long-term solution for me. Plus it’s more expensive than purchasing great components to make your own large bin of soil - more cost effective!
Don’t be afraid of soil - use coco husks/coco chips, large perlite, small amount of an organic soil such as Fox Farm, horticultural charcoal (smaller pieces), & vermiculite. Or, you can research soil mixture ingredients for epiphytic plants 🌱. Good luck to you and thanks for sharing your video!
I agree. I’ve made the same observation. Most of my Hoya are in a chunky soil less mixture and I’ve recently started making my own soilless mix and my thinner leafed ones are in Pon.
Excellent tips! Thank you for sharing
Ack...Hoya Rebecca is my #1 plant on my wishlist. I could care less about sun stressing. It will or it won't stress and that's fine. Still will get it though. Have had zero issues with any of my hoya's. Wait...except Patcharawalai (aks Icensis). It hasn't grown much so I'm always concerned it's dying....but no real issues.
That's awesome. Mine is back on the struggle bus. Not sure if itll make it this time. :-(
Glad yours are growing wel lfor you.
What’s the secret of getting the pothos trailing and full? The lime ones behind you
☀️very bright light. Chopping and propping right back into the soil to keep get it fuller.
@@luciansteph thank you
Thank you for showing off your problem hoya. May I ask, do you check your water PH? I discovered that using distilled water on my tricky hoya helps. Also your thirsty hoya will benefit as low ph dose not cause root rot, so lightly water daily.
Also, do you know about flat mites? They are tiny and only sulfur kills them, I paint it dry with a brush on the entire plant. It smells, but works. I saw all my non-growing Hoya take off after a few treatments 😎
Never checked my PH. I’ll keep that in mind though. 💡
Flat mites I know about and check my plants regularly. I also spray them once a week as a preventative measure. I use horticultural oil for pest control. Seems to be effective.
Great tips! Thank you for watching and sharing tips! 😆🪴
Happy growing! 🪴🪴
@@lucianstephif your not using sulfur your not controlling flat mites. They can only be seen with a microscope 😊 and as I watched and listen to you, I see/hear flat mites 😉
@Miles_Hoffman could be. But I don’t see any flat mite damage. I’ve used the tips from this video as a preventative measure. I guess time will tell. 🤷🏽♀️
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Sigilatis and V. Kerri for me are fussy. I want to trade them out. Your hair looks 🔥
I just got a Sigilatis and it immediately pushed out two new leaves so idk if it’s tough for just yet. The Kerri is one that I will not endeavour. 😅Hope they grow better for you soon. Thank you! 🤭
@@luciansteph I think having a full plant would make a difference. This is cuttings. And a bunch of false starts.
@@dianesheehan8225 I agree! I’ve said that. With some plants you’re better off getting an actual plant rather than cuttings.
I also collect rain water for all my plants. It’s the best water for them … all the plants. Water from the faucet has harsh chemicals that eventually will kill your plants.
It’s true, they love rain water. 🌧️🌧️
I'm ready to chop my krohniana super silver.
Hey love your channel. The waymaniea is hard one also grow very strange and ugly (when it decides to grow😂). I think if you gonna take the effort to grow it you can get a better claudy sky splash wise. Rb-dick can be a nice substituted to the Larisa, she's very slow. My difficult one is meridithii by far. I think there's no hard hoya, sometime it's the spefic cutting/starter plant that is bad and if you'll get another one from some plase else it may be better. The problem is that it's very expensive to buy a second plant so you struggle with what you have🤷♀️
Hi! Thanks for watching! 😆 hehe yes, a splashier Waymaniae specimen would make the process more interesting. I think I lost the splashy cuttings in its rebellion. 😅
You’re right, the RB-dick is similar to the Larisa.
💯👏🏽agree with you. You’re at the mercy of the health of the cutting you got. Of course our care and conditions play a factor too. But not all plants of the same variety will grow the same. Happy growing! 😆🪴
My hoya callistophylla is my worst. It has not grown at all since I got it. It put out a tiny leaf once and I thought it's finally growing. It must have sensed my happiness because that little leaf fell off. I have other hoya growing out of their pots and this one and the krohniana silver. I got both of these from the same place so I don't know. It's been at least a year and neither of them have grown.
😢oh no! Not the baby leaf. That’s the worst. 😢 Could be the plant itself too. But honestly I’ve heard many people talking about how challenging the Callistophylla is. Hope your other Hoya give you joy. Happy growing! 😊🪴
I’m sorry but you crack me up at “it must have sense my happiness” 🤣 nah but seriously relatable!!! 😭
@kateolvera2873 😅😅
Awww callistophyllas are notoriously slow growers. If the new growth continuously falls off or if you notice any discoloration or knobby stems it could be flat mite related though. Mine just started blooming this past spring after 3 yrs! Good luck!!
@samantita9588 great tips! Thanks for sharing! 😄
Is this the same as the Krohniana super silver?
They are so similar it's hard to tell the difference. Some leaves look like lacunosa and some look like Krohniana.
🪴Happy Planting🌿
Thanks. You too 😆🪴
I won't to know what kind of soil I need to use for my hoya
I don’t use soil on my Hoya. A few are in Pon but most are in a soil less potting mix. Here is the links to the one I use:
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I only have one Hoya, I bought it about a month ago, because I thought I was “ready” to try a Hoya. I'm a newbie plant person, I’m about a year into my journey. It's a linearis. It's struggling. It came with three baby leaves and they have all dropped off. I keep telling myself to keep the faith, that’s its stress from the shipping and reacclimation… but….
Oh dear. Sorry to hear about that. I’m not quite brave enough to try the linearis yet. It strikes me as one that has a bit of a learning curve. I have some pretty Hoya that I recommend to beginners and tips. You can find them here.
Hope it helps: HOYA FOR BEGINNERS| TOP 5 (+1) COMMON & UNCOMMON HOYA & TOP 5 TIPS
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Transfer from soil to pon or semi hydro always rots the roots, I hate soil 😂
This comment comforted me! Thank you 😅
@@luciansteph it’s definitely not you! And also one of the reasons why I try to purchase cuttings in perlite or water it’s so much easier to get them to stay alive.
@wootlesswocks good idea 👍🏽 💡
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I feel vindicated I have killed so many heuschkeliana. At first I thought it was because I was buying tiny plants so I spent big money on a big one. I have a few straggly pieces left. People say it's so easy but it has not been for me.
Yes! 🙌🏽 you are not alone. I stand with you! Propagating is the hardest. If you can get past that, chunky mix, in self watering pot and never touch it again 😅. I’m rooting for you!! 🪴🪴
@@luciansteph I'm starting to embrace self watering pots. Good to know that one does well in them.
Why would you be using self watering pots with soil? They are more useful when using semi hydro. I have about 40 Hoyas all growing in Leca, most stared with 1 or 2 leaves. All are under 2 years, doing fantastic, lots of peduncles and many blooms. Have #10, #7, and #1, and they are thriving in Leca! Have many rarer ones also fine.
That’s wonderful! I have 1 Hoya in soil in. SWP takes the guessing out of the watering. It struggled because I let it dry out. Almost all my other Hoya are in semi hydro. This is my experience, with my conditions, in my first year of growing Hoya. Just sharing my journey. Thanks for watching. Happy growing.
I'm surprised that your Rebecca is giving you a hard time. Mine has been easy peasy. Sun stressed and blooming. Sorry
Yeah. It could be me. I feel like it should be easier but mine is so slow. But I’m hopeful. 😊
@luciansteph it might be the plant . I wish you were in the States. I have 2 newly rooted plants. I would love to send it to you.
@planttherapy1860 that’s so kind. I appreciate the thought, thank you. 😊
@planttherapy1860 aww. I appreciate the thought! 🤗🪴
I'm done with new guinea ghost 👻
Ikr?! 😅 glad I’m not alone
I’m sooo glad I’m not the only one having a hard time time with the heuschkeliana. I killed two of those plants already when I attempted to switch medium. The plants just ends up rotting and wouldn’t adapt. I have another one coming but I’ll have to leave it in whatever medium it comes in 😅 it’s a beautiful plant but it is tricky to root without rotting
Don’t worry, you’re not alone! Tricky is the word 😅Hope this one works out well for you. Happy growing! 😆🪴
Hi Step have you heard of a Hoya benguetensis I just got this Hoya this week . I just started getting into Hoya’s this year too .
Hi! How exciting! 😆 I just looked it up! Looks lovely when sunstressed 😍. Happy growing! 🤗🪴