This guy knows what he’s talking about. I agree with everything I heard and it didn’t seem foreign at all. What’s even better is he says he’s just an average Joe who loves studying the gospel. That’s what we can all do. And the insights are great. Going deeper than the surface outlined principles and really internalizing the doctrines is what it’s all about. Personal revelation and spiritual growth. Thanks for the video. We need more of these topics. 👍
I agree with what you said. It is heartwarming to me that you, as a priesthood holder grasps this message and sees things clearly. I also liked your gardening video on creating shade for your tomatoes. The video was 2:22 long!🤗
Wendy Nelson bore witness at the 2022 Alberta Canada devotional of the suffering servants sacrificial role by saying “ I wonder if you and I would study in a little different way, each truth we received from general conference if we had any idea the price our leaders paid to offer that truth.”
I love this. I've been thinking about how in the endowment we are administered the tokens and signs of the priesthood and that we are to share the priesthood with others through the same process. This is how we build Zion. This is how I believe we can share priesthood power, or magnify our office: We bear one another's burden, we mourn with those that mourn, we comfort those in need of comfort, and stand as a witness of God for the promises he has made and fulfilled. Giving priesthood blessings I feel is comforting those in need of comfort. There is so much that surrounds this phase in speaking the priesthood that we tend to ignore, mainly because we don't realize how tightly these other elements are connected together.
Brilliant. There is so much doctrinal depth in this interview. I have listened to it 3 times and feel like there is still more to understand. I don't know what price you have paid for the depth of understanding you have gained, but thank you for sharing.
I liked Todd's description of how an ordinance is an invitation to follow Christ, follow his pattern, his order AND by becoming more like Christ you start exhibiting his powers. This is for everyone I believe. That is why there are signs that follow the believers. (and if you don't see those signs or even know what they are, then perhaps there is something to learn about) It seems the scriptures say miracles happen by faith (an action word of walking in his pattern), not by just "getting" the priesthood because you aged into it. You don't just automatically start wielding power without ever aligning your life to his. A lot of people are talking about why so many are leaving the church and the Temple and it usually ends up insinuating that the person got tired or is a "lazy learner" or as you said, they have never done the sacrifice of self it takes to feel the power and strength from the gospel to where they feel that they could not survive without the Temple. But one thing I am noticing is that there is a growing number of the truly penitent and faithful who are leaving (not the gospel or the Book of Mormon, but the church). And it's not because of what you are guessing, but because God intervened. Some people are going towards Christ more than they ever had before and the sacrifice is very real.
I just noticed that your Jacob 1:19 reference is also part of a much larger Chiasmus. Spanning into chapter 2. Thank you! Truely appreciate hearing all of the things of my heart explained with words that I don’t have the skills to articulate.
This is fantastic. Love the idea. But please give some citations of prophets and apostles saying the endowment is the oath and covenant of the priesthood . Seriously love the idea, and it makes some sense. But please provide some citations -articles, scriptures, etc. Would be awesome and give this some legitimacy.
I don’t think there is any hard quote of that but it’s Todd’s own idea or revelation if you will. But where do we take oaths and make covenants? That are associated with signs and tokens? When we are ordained at church there are no such signs or tokens as baptism by water and by fire. Anytime a covenant is made there are signs and tokens that we made it. Besides think about the initiatory and what it is that we are being initiated into. It’s the priesthood!
Read D&C 107 and we learn that the word "priesthood" is a substitute label used for "the holy order...". An order is group of people with shared characteristics, knowledge, and beliefs. We make oaths in the temple, and the Lord makes covenants with us. I agree with Todd, it's all there. In my opinion, the Brethren in the church do not use the word "order" in describing the priesthood because it would draw a clear divide of those endowed and those who are not. And it's better to have these things spiritually discerned than to open up another attack vector where ex-members or current members are use difference in people to divide and diminish people's faith.
I like his things . I have watched a lot of his videos . They are mind blowing . Have to go back and rewatch to catch all things . A few things I heard him say I don’t agree with .
I did notice the prophets say before I go down to my death I know I have taught you so your blood and sins are not on my garments . So if this is on men all men with priesthood Gezz that’s a lot to put on anyone . I don’t really see men doing this much . But then what about when it says in as much as parents have children in Zion and teach them not the doctrines . The sin be on the parents head . So that would be on the woman the mother too . My PB says keep yourself clean and unspotted from the sins of the world by going to church and partaking of the sacrament . It is so hard to understand why women say you are clean and then men say you must become clean . I think I’m understanding it through their priesthood . That is a big responsibility . To help others come to Christ . I just don’t trust men that much unless you are a prophet or apostle . How about a father who does not lead his family in the right ways ?
I caution against the belief that if a bishop or any leader puts forth sacrifice to show others that commitment it will automatically lead to a softening of heart. Sometimes people take that showing forth of commitment as a sign that they are entitled. Please let's not lead anyone to believing that a bishop can change the hearts or minds of his Ward members through his own efforts or his own repentance/sacrifice. Jesus Christ was different. His sacrifice was able to bring something about for all of mankind that an individual Bishops sacrifice cannot. We do not live in a world where every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is the Christ. We are just simply not living in that ideological world.
I don't know if I understood your point clearly however, as someone who was profoundly influence by a Bishop when I was in YSA many years ago, he's sacrifices to me softened me to consider my ways. I understood that Jesus is the way to salvation, but having members/ecclesiastical leaders show me a Christlike example allowed me to consider what they said.
If a bishop is “sacrificing” in order to get gain/entitlement the he is really not sacrificing-he’s practicing priestcraft. In that case he is not exercising priesthood power, because he’s not following the order of the Son of God, which is to humble yourself and condescend below those who you serve. He has to do his sacrifice without hypocrisy and without guile in order for it to have any power.
This guy knows what he’s talking about. I agree with everything I heard and it didn’t seem foreign at all. What’s even better is he says he’s just an average Joe who loves studying the gospel. That’s what we can all do. And the insights are great.
Going deeper than the surface outlined principles and really internalizing the doctrines is what it’s all about. Personal revelation and spiritual growth.
Thanks for the video.
We need more of these topics. 👍
I agree with what you said. It is heartwarming to me that you, as a priesthood holder grasps this message and sees things clearly.
I also liked your gardening video on creating shade for your tomatoes. The video was 2:22 long!🤗
Wendy Nelson bore witness at the 2022 Alberta Canada devotional of the suffering servants sacrificial role by saying “ I wonder if you and I would study in a little different way, each truth we received from general conference if we had any idea the price our leaders paid to offer that truth.”
I love this. I've been thinking about how in the endowment we are administered the tokens and signs of the priesthood and that we are to share the priesthood with others through the same process. This is how we build Zion.
This is how I believe we can share priesthood power, or magnify our office: We bear one another's burden, we mourn with those that mourn, we comfort those in need of comfort, and stand as a witness of God for the promises he has made and fulfilled. Giving priesthood blessings I feel is comforting those in need of comfort. There is so much that surrounds this phase in speaking the priesthood that we tend to ignore, mainly because we don't realize how tightly these other elements are connected together.
Brilliant. There is so much doctrinal depth in this interview. I have listened to it 3 times and feel like there is still more to understand. I don't know what price you have paid for the depth of understanding you have gained, but thank you for sharing.
Hey Val! I agree, this is fantastic stuff.
I liked Todd's description of how an ordinance is an invitation to follow Christ, follow his pattern, his order AND by becoming more like Christ you start exhibiting his powers. This is for everyone I believe. That is why there are signs that follow the believers. (and if you don't see those signs or even know what they are, then perhaps there is something to learn about) It seems the scriptures say miracles happen by faith (an action word of walking in his pattern), not by just "getting" the priesthood because you aged into it. You don't just automatically start wielding power without ever aligning your life to his.
A lot of people are talking about why so many are leaving the church and the Temple and it usually ends up insinuating that the person got tired or is a "lazy learner" or as you said, they have never done the sacrifice of self it takes to feel the power and strength from the gospel to where they feel that they could not survive without the Temple. But one thing I am noticing is that there is a growing number of the truly penitent and faithful who are leaving (not the gospel or the Book of Mormon, but the church). And it's not because of what you are guessing, but because God intervened. Some people are going towards Christ more than they ever had before and the sacrifice is very real.
Thank you for a treasure trove of blessings!
I just noticed that your Jacob 1:19 reference is also part of a much larger Chiasmus. Spanning into chapter 2.
Thank you! Truely appreciate hearing all of the things of my heart explained with words that I don’t have the skills to articulate.
Really enjoyed this discussion! Thank you 😊
Fabulous powerfilled message.
This is fantastic. Love the idea. But please give some citations of prophets and apostles saying the endowment is the oath and covenant of the priesthood . Seriously love the idea, and it makes some sense. But please provide some citations -articles, scriptures, etc. Would be awesome and give this some legitimacy.
I don’t think there is any hard quote of that but it’s Todd’s own idea or revelation if you will. But where do we take oaths and make covenants? That are associated with signs and tokens? When we are ordained at church there are no such signs or tokens as baptism by water and by fire. Anytime a covenant is made there are signs and tokens that we made it. Besides think about the initiatory and what it is that we are being initiated into. It’s the priesthood!
Read D&C 107 and we learn that the word "priesthood" is a substitute label used for "the holy order...". An order is group of people with shared characteristics, knowledge, and beliefs.
We make oaths in the temple, and the Lord makes covenants with us. I agree with Todd, it's all there.
In my opinion, the Brethren in the church do not use the word "order" in describing the priesthood because it would draw a clear divide of those endowed and those who are not. And it's better to have these things spiritually discerned than to open up another attack vector where ex-members or current members are use difference in people to divide and diminish people's faith.
Our church leaders will not talk on these things . They just don’t . Unless you can look around and find a talk .
I like his things . I have watched a lot of his videos . They are mind blowing . Have to go back and rewatch to catch all things . A few things I heard him say I don’t agree with .
I did notice the prophets say before I go down to my death I know I have taught you so your blood and sins are not on my garments . So if this is on men all men with priesthood Gezz that’s a lot to put on anyone . I don’t really see men doing this much . But then what about when it says in as much as parents have children in Zion and teach them not the doctrines . The sin be on the parents head . So that would be on the woman the mother too . My PB says keep yourself clean and unspotted from the sins of the world by going to church and partaking of the sacrament . It is so hard to understand why women say you are clean and then men say you must become clean . I think I’m understanding it through their priesthood . That is a big responsibility . To help others come to Christ . I just don’t trust men that much unless you are a prophet or apostle . How about a father who does not lead his family in the right ways ?
I caution against the belief that if a bishop or any leader puts forth sacrifice to show others that commitment it will automatically lead to a softening of heart.
Sometimes people take that showing forth of commitment as a sign that they are entitled.
Please let's not lead anyone to believing that a bishop can change the hearts or minds of his Ward members through his own efforts or his own repentance/sacrifice.
Jesus Christ was different. His sacrifice was able to bring something about for all of mankind that an individual Bishops sacrifice cannot.
We do not live in a world where every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is the Christ. We are just simply not living in that ideological world.
I don't know if I understood your point clearly however, as someone who was profoundly influence by a Bishop when I was in YSA many years ago, he's sacrifices to me softened me to consider my ways.
I understood that Jesus is the way to salvation, but having members/ecclesiastical leaders show me a Christlike example allowed me to consider what they said.
The Bishop comes clean after sacrificing with sincerity, regardless if the members accept his sacrifice
If a bishop is “sacrificing” in order to get gain/entitlement the he is really not sacrificing-he’s practicing priestcraft. In that case he is not exercising priesthood power, because he’s not following the order of the Son of God, which is to humble yourself and condescend below those who you serve. He has to do his sacrifice without hypocrisy and without guile in order for it to have any power.