Cutting Open Makita Battery Cells to Prove they use Tabless Cells. Yes there was fire!

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ธ.ค. 2024

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  • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
    @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *The Makita 40v Multi-Tool is finally here!!! th-cam.com/video/9xkgk_HQvXo/w-d-xo.html*

  • @jayschuon8330
    @jayschuon8330 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Damn, that was exciting!!! Don’t try this at home kids !!! I thought to myself at the beginning,” why is he doing this inside?” . Thanks for doing this. Now I never have to

  • @whitechris720
    @whitechris720 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    You took one for the team, thanks. I learned a lot.

  • @gs188
    @gs188 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Your problem was you dismembered the first cell infront of its mates - this made the pixies extra angry and they wern’t gonna stand for it.

    • @BIGWIGGLE223
      @BIGWIGGLE223 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You're absolutely correct. He said that this unchecked aggression will not stand. Then he turned into a rocket.

  • @mattfowler4042
    @mattfowler4042 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    As a plumber watching this it looks like you're turning the pipeslice the wrong way. Typically you lead with the rollers on the cutter. And I would typically be adjusting 1/4 turn on the adjuster per revolution and doing more turns to prevent burring the ends

  • @harryd1664
    @harryd1664 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    This was actually pretty educational. Learnt alot about batteries. Amazing to think how much we pay for them...

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm glad it was useful for you.

    • @cynic256
      @cynic256 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      A standard 21700 isn't really that expensive. Like $4. We all know copper isn't cheap, and I assume a lot of the cost is simply the skill of the workers and the safety protocols when making these batteries. One mistake and the factory goes up in flames

    • @BaberJacks
      @BaberJacks 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@cynic256 dont forget profit margin

  • @wordplayful
    @wordplayful 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Thank you for a very valuable lesson. I will never take these batteries apart and never buy generic brand batteries.

    • @gf2e
      @gf2e 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I opened up a knockoff Ryobi battery. There was no insulation between the metal on the springs and the battery terminals. If the springs got out of position slightly, then you’d short out two cells. The springs were held in place with *masking tape*.

    • @Dude-xv4os
      @Dude-xv4os 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gf2ewow. Thats terrifying. And you got 5 or 10 of those bitches inside a plastic housing that is flammable instead of just one in a metal casing.

  • @harveycreekin
    @harveycreekin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Big Clive would be proud 👍

  • @shawnlachance4427
    @shawnlachance4427 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Now I understand what it looks like when a Chinese EV catches fire!!! Hahaha
    Tools and stuff should have 10 million subscribers!!!
    Great shit!

  • @FIN4L_BOSS
    @FIN4L_BOSS 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    after watching the fireball at quarter speed playback you sir have quick reflexes. as soon as the fire released from he cell you dropped that sucker like a hot potatoe!

  • @Modifier73
    @Modifier73 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Nice! Managed to get the same results trying to repair a ryobi battery. Angry little buggers!

  • @chimairanl9043
    @chimairanl9043 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    No wonder that prototype XGT blowtorch is not on the market yet. The safety leaves a lot to be desired. Interesting video!

  • @robertdascoli949
    @robertdascoli949 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    17:30 I have a feeling this will be the most replayed section of the video.

  • @jandudl74
    @jandudl74 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People who think that they can repair their batteries themselves should see this! I never buy fakes and never will repair these things by replacing cells. And i learned electronics and electric stuff. Maybe thats why so much electric bicycles are catching fire? Thanks for the demo!

  • @afikzach
    @afikzach 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The best video on your channel

  • @AlexKall
    @AlexKall 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thank you for risking your life for us!

  • @ericwolff6059
    @ericwolff6059 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    ElectroBOOM meets Big Clive, Kiwi style. ;-)

  • @nfi2nfi2
    @nfi2nfi2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    👍🏻 😂 risked burns for an internet I told you so.
    Anyway next have you thought about doing a few episodes on old cordless like stuff from previous decades vs newest cordless equivalents. I know pretty chalk and cheese type stuff, but could an old cordless drill juiced up on the lastest and greatest cells at least put it into acceptable range of power. 😂 what could go wrong feeding the motor all the pixies it can handle.

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well, that's exciting!

  • @thicomsauerland
    @thicomsauerland 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That was very interesting. Thanks for showing and explaining.
    Glad you survived. 😉
    Greetings from Germany.

  • @R2_D3
    @R2_D3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best ''money shot'' I've seen in ages! 😁

  • @shawnlachance4427
    @shawnlachance4427 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well that settles it!!!
    Well done!

  • @wrefk
    @wrefk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    if you do this again put the batteries in salt water first few a day or two, it'll drain to 0v and can no longer combust
    really impressive how the tabless design is finally spreading to marketed batteries, sold and in consumer hands. it seems like such a simple and basic advancement in battery design but it took tesla to get the idea out there for everyone to start using, giving a nice bump in capabilities to the batteries.

    • @cynic256
      @cynic256 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How much of an 'advancement' is it really? Is it significant?

    • @wrefk
      @wrefk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@cynic256 it probably allows for just a few more amps, not massive but noticable. The real benefit is it allows faster manufacturing, and should increase yield since it is more reliable, those tabs are a failure point

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      30% more powerful when in a Makita 4Ah battery. So pretty significant.

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It is massive, these chonker can do 50a or more no problem, while the regular one is at 30.

    • @cynic256
      @cynic256 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@riba2233 do you know if Dewalt uses any tabless cells? I'm in Dewalt ecosystem

  • @gaz1967
    @gaz1967 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    That was a pucker up moment.

    • @Dude-xv4os
      @Dude-xv4os 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fucker up moment

  • @riba2233
    @riba2233 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Perfect video, hope that some folks will take a look at it :)

  • @BIGWIGGLE223
    @BIGWIGGLE223 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I f'ing love this channel!! Where else are you gonna go from laughing your ass off to white knuckling the armchair and back to laughing your ass off in the 1st 5 mins of a video??
    I once got a wild hair up my ass and decided that I was gonna solder some watch batteries in series for a project I was working on and I just wasn't thinking it all the way through and I kept that soldering iron on that tiny battery just a couple of seconds too long and that little battery blew right up in my face. It got real hot, real swole, real fast and after it blew up and evaporated, I got peppered with debris. That damn thing was so loud when it went off its comparable to shooting a .45 Cal pistol without ear protection. My ears were ringing for the rest of the day after that.

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You NEVER solder these cells, ever. Only spot welding is allowed

    • @BIGWIGGLE223
      @BIGWIGGLE223 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@riba2233 Yeah yeah..... Tell that to my much younger self. He was an idiot. He had to learn things the hard way. He once had to learn that it's a terrible idea to think you can be fast enough to solder a nickel tab to a 21700 as well. At least that idiot drained the battery and did it outside. One of these days I'll get that idiot a spot welder and he'll quit trying to kill me and burn down my home. Lol!!

  • @dazaspc
    @dazaspc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Damn your fucking money shot. I just sprayed a mouthful of Coffee at the computer screen via my nose.
    But seriously I can see why the welded tab batteries cause issues. Just the current charge/discharge ability of the tabless would be so much better.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry

    • @reggiecoupe
      @reggiecoupe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That was fucking epic, love it.

    • @pete_lind
      @pete_lind 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Good idea cut it on top of water in steel bucket .
      The best way to deal with lithium ion battery fire by test , or dump salt on it , also takes lot of energy to melt.
      Powders and foams specially made for lithium ion fire fighting are less effective.

  • @bryang9158
    @bryang9158 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great vid , appreciate the effort,👍

  • @fdrskr
    @fdrskr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Большое спасибо, это очень интересно

  • @kristene2372
    @kristene2372 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dangerous, but o so cool!
    Thanks for the fun
    Enjoyed watching

  • @TheMschipp
    @TheMschipp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Money shot indeed

  • @mattio79
    @mattio79 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My friend and I felled a Dogwood that was ~12-13 meters tall with my XCU11 chainsaw. It's an amazing single-battery LXT chainsaw. I'd like to see your take on it.

  • @heavyspam1
    @heavyspam1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Fire cell was wicked 😳😏

  • @sassall4284
    @sassall4284 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That was exciting

  • @KalanYTRock
    @KalanYTRock 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I loved the reaction, great stuff! I wish you had a mask on, unlike during the pandemic. 😅

  • @ferbusch
    @ferbusch 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any clues if makita will come out with a new table saw anytime soon?

  • @wearetheremnants1615
    @wearetheremnants1615 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still no hi output in uk 😢

  • @DanielTesla74
    @DanielTesla74 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So hydrogen ignites. Hmm, go figure... Anyway, thank you for revealing how modern batteries are made and why the cost of quality, brand ones is justified.

  • @timmccall8318
    @timmccall8318 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If the second “tabbed cell” measured 0v it’s likely that the CID had popped and the cell was still partially charged.

  • @Not2480
    @Not2480 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4th of july,,,yeah! Lungs !!!! Be care,Dude

  • @dancearoundtheworld5360
    @dancearoundtheworld5360 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    not July yet, thanks for the firework show 😁

  • @Иван-ю8т9р
    @Иван-ю8т9р 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Честно был удивлен, что первая не загорелась, а только вторая)

  • @shanepipkin4041
    @shanepipkin4041 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wondering what husqvarna 36 volt is

  • @matthewadkins9810
    @matthewadkins9810 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Worth a watch just for the fireworks! Hahaha

  • @steve-lv9ly
    @steve-lv9ly 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sold in UK

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because Makita UK hasn't ordered any yet for some reason.

  • @minispud
    @minispud 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    when "She'll be right" meets "...shit"

    • @mikekahotea8148
      @mikekahotea8148 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂 and the end result is...shit happened 😅😊😊

  • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
    @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    *My original BL4040F Review* th-cam.com/video/btr6vj8OEiY/w-d-xo.html

  • @newt2010
    @newt2010 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wife just left. Good timing...............Wife returns. Where in the hell is our house?!?!

  • @Dude-xv4os
    @Dude-xv4os 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man I remember hearing about the BL4040F coming out back in October, we STILL DONT HAVE IT IN THE US

  • @georgedavall9449
    @georgedavall9449 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I. N. C. R. E. D. I. B. L. E. !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @cheechU38K
    @cheechU38K 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool 😎 next video putting it back together 😝

  • @wearsjorge55
    @wearsjorge55 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting to see it broken down like this. Do you have bite marks in your chair now?

  • @newt2010
    @newt2010 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What???? The earth isn't flat? Now, I have to check that out.
    Cheers, good day

  • @wayward-saint
    @wayward-saint 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone know if Makita plans to upgrade their 18v batteries?

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the eternal question :D we have seen some patents on 18v packs with lipo cells.

  • @danielreynolds6498
    @danielreynolds6498 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    X10 terrifying imagine an electric car. 1000 maybe !!!! Or more

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah it's pretty frightening when you see how much energy just one of them has.

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Tesla has almost 9000 in model S packs :)

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Scary stuff indeed.

    • @danielreynolds6498
      @danielreynolds6498 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@riba2233 Hectic …. Massive thermal runaway effect.

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@danielreynolds6498 luckily it happens extremely rarely :)

  • @tableshaper4076
    @tableshaper4076 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was fun for me!

  • @probsty13
    @probsty13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    you turned a battery into a rocket and took it like a champ. definitely earned my sub for that one. plus you are a funny fucker and took it in stride. good shit

  • @dogbreath6974
    @dogbreath6974 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish I hadn't seen this video, thinking of all the lithium batteries I have around my home, scary.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know. Imagine how I feel living above this th-cam.com/video/jyqyXIxzu2Y/w-d-xo.html

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm rethinking my Tool Battery Storage...

  • @martinmorris8862
    @martinmorris8862 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always enjoy the vids. Over here in the UK we are very often the last country to receive new tech. With ref to the “tabless” battery they have been around for many years and the web is full of information on them. Even Tesla unveiled plans back in 2020 to develop a “tabless” battery and they now hold 2 patents on a tabbed cathode and a tabless anode. In the patent, they mention several times that the actual implementation may have tabless on both the covers or the ends of the battery cell.
    Cutting open,(especially when you don’t check its drained first. Poo in the pants lol) a battery is never the best and as you will know full of toxic noxious substances hence why batteries & particularly new batteries are very bad for the environments and largely non recyclable. There is a good illustration of the tables in the Tesla patents.
    You are spot on the Internet, is only a mere fraction of information the overall global datasphere reached 64 zettabytes in 2020 not even a fraction of the worldwide data available offline.

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      these are the first commercially available packs with tabless cells, it definitely is a new tech and tesla only had an idea in 2020 and they are using them now only in one model probably (they def weren't around for "many" years). so this video is very important especially because many didn't believe that makita actually used this new tech.

    • @martinmorris8862
      @martinmorris8862 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@riba2233 They are not the first comercialy available by any means. It is well known tech.
      Tabless design was well noted by many battery industry observers when it came onto the market in 2009, Tesla have looked into the new battery design since it became public in 2009 maybe before then. They had the tech in research for a number of years before developing and now holding 2 patents on a tabbed cathode and a tabless anode they use on some car models since 2020. I don’t need to go into the list of companies that have and use tables but A few you may know Tesla, DeWalt, Ridgid , Makita , Bosch announced a new ProCore 18V+ cordless power tool battery that's engineered with tabless 21700 Li-ion cells back in Nov 2023. Some tool manufacturers have marketed tables late 2023 with many appearing on the market early 2024feb March. Trade shows in 2023 were sporting the new tech commercial.
      It may be new to some of the public but the technology is not new by any means.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you had watched the video you would have learnt that Makita did it well before Bosch. Makita announced them at least 2 years ago and they came to fruition in Mid 2023. My first, in hand, video of the 1st Makita tabless pack was early September 2023.

  • @nicoquattro3950
    @nicoquattro3950 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    carefulling.........carefulling............ PFEEEEEWW
    You need to work on your fire extinguisher reaction time 😂
    How did your wife react?

  • @frenchyroastify
    @frenchyroastify 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think kids would try this at home.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      But now that I've told them not to, surely they won't.

  • @ToolTimeToday
    @ToolTimeToday 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ha ha ha ha 17:31 where the 21700 explodes on you, well what can i say......your reaction was priceless!! i did exactly the same but outside because i knew what was going to happen. Good job you didn't set fire to anything as it could have been a lot worse for sure. A friend of mine passed me some 18650 a few yrs ago while traveling in his car down the motorway they were very hot after taking them out of his vape product, trust me they got launched out of the window in an instant ! luck for me there was no one behind.

  • @kent9090
    @kent9090 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    17:30 Now i know how im gonna save money on fireworks. Happy new year!

  • @anthonygsr98
    @anthonygsr98 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Xgt 40v bottle rocket!

  • @newt2010
    @newt2010 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    NASA, we have a problem

  • @whya2ndaccount
    @whya2ndaccount 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kiwi WHS video!

  • @bowesterlund3719
    @bowesterlund3719 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man! At the very least: Use proper chem gloves and a respirator!!! The electrolyte reacts with the moisture in the air and produces HF gas. No joke. Very poisonous and injuries may only be detected the day after (when it is too late). Take care! ❤

  • @deadduck4041
    @deadduck4041 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wikipedia_ Street sign theft occurs when street signs are stolen to be used as decorations or sold as scrap metal, or as show here as a sturdy work top .....😆😆😆Careful of those batteries Mate👍.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well it wasn't stolen. Someone crashed into it outside my house and when it was replaced they left this one laying on my front lawn.

    • @deadduck4041
      @deadduck4041 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL One man’s rubbish is another man’s Gold…Get it weighed in mate be worth’s fiver 😆👍🏻

  • @robertcasey3528
    @robertcasey3528 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And we have blast off

  • @samday6621
    @samday6621 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Does your wife know you’ve been doing this?!

  • @patbird9694
    @patbird9694 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Boom

  • @akujiwar
    @akujiwar หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd say a dremel etc would be more precise than the knife. Doesn't rely on a large poorly controlled force directed towards the battery, which can easily push the knife too deep, but rather lets you cut slowly with precision.

  • @isaaccaris9530
    @isaaccaris9530 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hear chaves lees
    Jeje yaiks

  • @marcellinden7305
    @marcellinden7305 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hmmm... Tools is getting into rocketry....Awesome.... Almost as exciting as a Chinese EV.

  • @ProToolsApproved
    @ProToolsApproved 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A ha ha ha. Good on you calling out those idiots. I know exactly which big mouth fools you're talking about.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've had a lot of them it the past few days. Every time I release a Makita vid before everyone else, some muppet will always call them fake because "they've" never heard of it and that they "Googled it and found nothing, so it isn't real". I'm glad I'm not that stupid.

  • @video_gabes
    @video_gabes 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude I'm squinting just watching this

  • @Not2480
    @Not2480 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are the tabs,,?? Like hair,,?

  • @dk2428
    @dk2428 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who needs HIT cardio, when you can just cut open batteries. 😄

  • @San-et5xh
    @San-et5xh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did U burn a hole in your pants

  • @incubatork
    @incubatork 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Now you know how Elon Musk at Tesla developed his booster rocket for SpaceX.🤣This is Probably the reason so many Chinese EV's go on fire, just takes one out of a few hundred to be badly made and away you go.

  • @HotForgeChaos
    @HotForgeChaos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AvE would respect the massive skidmark left on your healing bench

  • @CraigGrunenfelder
    @CraigGrunenfelder 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    and there is the next great ecological disaster rolled up into that little cylinder! Thanks for the dissection!