The hymn that they sing in the beginning is the Coptic hymn which announces the entrance of a bishop. It is a hymn reminiscent of Christ's entrance into Jerusalem, as the bishop is an icon of Christ.
Thank you!..I have been looking for a way to worship God and be with Jesus,at all times. I was brought up a Protestant,so this prayer didn't mean much to me,but now I see it's worth!
I think you're quite right, but would add that the Lord's Prayer itself, as it appears in the King James Bible or the New American Bible etc., is also somewhat 'made up' in that after many translations it does not strongly resemble concepts actually present in the Aramaic of Jesus' time. There was actually no word for 'prayer,' and the word for 'father' did not connote paternity so much as affection. To me the issue is how helpful using the prayer is to the pray-er, not how 'true' it is.
Heh, he said that humans can't go to sleep standing up. I've been through American Basic Training. That is quite untrue. I've no idea how my compatriots did it, but it IS possible! Made me chuckle.
Also, "Have mercy on me, O God, according to your steadfast love; according to your abundant mercy blot out my transgressions." Sounds a lot like the Jesus prayer. (Take out "O God" and put "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God" and instead of "my transgressions" put in "me a sinner."
If they are Coptic than how come they speak about the Jesus prayer, an orthodox practice appeared after the Synod from Calcedon (which was in the Vth century)?
sfappetrupavelandrei the Jesus Prayer was started in the Egyptian Desert by the Desert Fathers so they probably had this practice from the 4th to 5th century
@@Zeeks-vp7tfThis prayer,_St.Antony ABBOT the Great was revealed by The great Cobbler-The ABBOTT propagated it by Devine Providence.JESUS CHRIST son of GOD have mercy on me a sinner.first inhaling and repeated every breath.Brothers& Sisters pray for this sinner
The Lord's prayer (also commonly known as 'Our Father') is not the 'Jesus prayer'. The latter is a man made prayer that improvises from Luke 18. It is not identical to the gospel reading as you can see for yourself; "13And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as [his] eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner."
This is such a laugh. Greek Orthodox don't remove their shoes before public prayer at their Temples, and Ware completely skips over this fact at the beginning of this lecture when he stresses Moses taking off his shoes on holy ground. Oriental Orthodox remove their shoes at their Temples. What is the point of this hypocritical lecture, especially when the Jesus prayer began in Egypt? And why aren't Oriental Orthodox teaching Eastern Orthodox.....instead of Eastern Orthodox trying to bulldoze them with the old story about "our Tradition is best because the Jesus Prayer was dogmatically proven and refined on Mt. Athos long after all 7 Ecuumenical Councils took place"? Copts are so negligent, yet so gullible.
I would think that after Jesus's resurrection and His ownership of Hell because He is Crowned from prince to King would mean that the ground He shed His blood on and for is now Holy. So, to take off your shoes would be a good thing to practice but the ground where God walks is holy and nothing can be hidden in filth. He owns it. Just a thought
Jesus taught us ONE prayer and ONE prayer only, that is: 'Our Father in Heaven..." There is no problem with the man made 'Jesus Prayer' . Like any prayer that involves the name Jesus, I don't doubt it helps and brings spiritual renewal and elevation. That is surely a positive and welcome thing. However, to create a 'mix and match supermarket theology' and suggest that the 'Jesus Prayer' is more effective and has some superior esoteric properties (that by default other prayers lack) is suspect.
politicaltourist I don’t think anyone is suggesting that the Jesus prayer is a set of magic words with mystical powers. Rather, it’s an effective way to stay close to Christ throughout the course of the day and to obey the Apostle Paul’s command to “pray ceaselessly.”
Much connotation is lost in translation but there is an even deeper and more valid point that seems to have escaped your attention; Jesus Christ would never instruct his disciples, let alone the common man to say a prayer that sounds anything like "Lord jesus Christ, Son of God have mercy on me a sinner" during any point of his ministry (!)...
♥ ♣ +++ His Holiness Metropolitan Bishop Kallistos Ware Is A Divine Mystic ~ A Very Rare Holy Being Of Full Enlightenment, An Eastern Orthodox Mystical Wise Eastern Orthodox Author! ♣ The Person Sitting Behind {Which Is Rude & Disrespectful} Holy Metropolitan Bishop Kallistos Ware Is Missing Out On Gazing Upon His Radiant Compassionate Holy Face While He Speaks & Radiates Bountiful Divine Blessings! WHY Is He Sitting Behind Him? ♣ Also, Why Is That Row Of Distracting People Sitting Cramped Up Next To Metropolitan Bishop Kallistos Ware? They Sit There Fidgeting & Constantly Yawning & They Are A Distraction From His Talk! They Are Intruding Upon His Space! ♣ The Loud Chanting & Clanging At The Beginning Goes On Far Too Long, As His Holiness Has To Stand There Waiting To Begin His Divine Talk! ♣ These People Do Not Have The Wisdom, Nor Intuition, About How To Receive A Respected Being Properly, Humbly & With Respect & How To Give Him His Own Space While He Talks! +++ ♣ ♥
What you think is a loud chanting at the beginning is a hymn said only in palm Sunday celebrating jesus entrance to Jerusalem and sung when a bishop visits also ..the fact that he is not coptic or oriental and they sung the hymn so it is even so respectful
@Tanya It’s just a question. This is just another example of Met. Kallistos undermining the true faith. His position on Rome is false, his position on same sex relations is tenuous, etc. It’s not wrong for him to be in a Coptic church simply because they’re Copts. Most, if not all of them, are better Christians than myself. It’s wrong because Kallistos has already sown much confusion amongst his flock. And then he does something like this to further the confusion? Sorry, but it’s not being pharasaical to call that out. He’s a bishop and should know better. The mere fact that he’s receiving a bishops welcome from them is suspect enough.
I see you put quotation marks on the word ‘Orthodox’ in reference to us. Might I remind you that only we kept to the Orthodox faith of Ephesus and our theologians, upon meetings with yours, made it clear YOUR Church did not hold to the faith of Ephesus.
@@tjdronex1113 Forgive me for my previous venom and pride. This comment was shortly after I converted (maybe a year into it or something?) and I was completely focused on the wrong things. May God soften my heart more and give me the ability to repent more deeply every day.
@@IAMFISH92 all is forgiven. Godbless your humility, this is something that is extremely rare nowadays. And I totally understand, I am in the process of converting to OO, so I know what this venom is like. May God soften all our hearts. Godbless.
LORD JESUS CHRIST son of GOD have mercy on me a sinner.
Orthodox brothers greetings from Romania !!!
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the Jesus prayer is probably the only way one Can Pray without ceasing. this is what we are told to do in the New Testament.
That’s what I’ve been doing and having visions with Jesus also so beautifully
The hymn that they sing in the beginning is the Coptic hymn which announces the entrance of a bishop. It is a hymn reminiscent of Christ's entrance into Jerusalem, as the bishop is an icon of Christ.
Fr. Kallistos Ware is now in the final stages of his life. Lord have mercy.
Ive learnt so much more. A 1000 thanks for sharing. Memory Eternal Bishop Kallistos you have run the race.
I can listen to kallitos ware for hours.
Thank you!..I have been looking for a way to worship God and be with Jesus,at all times. I was brought up a Protestant,so this prayer didn't mean much to me,but now I see it's worth!
This is actually big. I like how our church is reaching out to great resources
God bless all Christian people amen 💒✅100%
Luke 18:38 the Blind man....''And he cried,saying, Jesus, thou son of David, have Mercy on me''
Such a beautiful & helpful teaching. Many Thanks!
thanks for posting. regards from România. Peace and joy.
The Lord's Prayer, the 'Our Father,' is a passage from the Gospels. The Jesus Prayer is based on another passage from the Gospels, Luke 18:13.
A prayer I enjoy.
Glory to God :)
I think you're quite right, but would add that the Lord's Prayer itself, as it appears in the King James Bible or the New American Bible etc., is also somewhat 'made up' in that after many translations it does not strongly resemble concepts actually present in the Aramaic of Jesus' time. There was actually no word for 'prayer,' and the word for 'father' did not connote paternity so much as affection. To me the issue is how helpful using the prayer is to the pray-er, not how 'true' it is.
Heh, he said that humans can't go to sleep standing up. I've been through American Basic Training. That is quite untrue. I've no idea how my compatriots did it, but it IS possible! Made me chuckle.
Really? What makes you think that, considering Christ said that if someone asks for something repeatedly, it will be given to him?
Also, "Have mercy on me, O God, according to your steadfast love; according to your abundant mercy blot out my transgressions." Sounds a lot like the Jesus prayer. (Take out "O God" and put "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God" and instead of "my transgressions" put in "me a sinner."
If they are Coptic than how come they speak about the Jesus prayer, an orthodox practice appeared after the Synod from Calcedon (which was in the Vth century)?
sfappetrupavelandrei the Jesus Prayer was started in the Egyptian Desert by the Desert Fathers so they probably had this practice from the 4th to 5th century
@@Zeeks-vp7tfThis prayer,_St.Antony ABBOT the Great was revealed by The great Cobbler-The ABBOTT propagated it by Devine Providence.JESUS CHRIST son of GOD have mercy on me a sinner.first inhaling and repeated every breath.Brothers& Sisters pray for this sinner
@@Zeeks-vp7tf He mentions this at 15:53
where is the adress of this church?
Ket Zergaw 11911 Braddock rd, fairfax, VA
I don't understand why do they use instruments?I thought orthodoxy generally only sings.
In the coptic Orthodox Church they use cymbals and instruments. Eastern Orthodox usually don't use instruments just choirs.
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It may be an issue on your end because the audio is playing clearly on our end on multiple devices.
what is this mans name?
Metropolitan Kallistos Ware
The Lord's prayer (also commonly known as 'Our Father') is not the 'Jesus prayer'. The latter is a man made prayer that improvises from Luke 18. It is not identical to the gospel reading as you can see for yourself; "13And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as [his] eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner."
(26:01 d. 28:33 d
This is such a laugh. Greek Orthodox don't remove their shoes before public prayer at their Temples, and Ware completely skips over this fact at the beginning of this lecture when he stresses Moses taking off his shoes on holy ground. Oriental Orthodox remove their shoes at their Temples. What is the point of this hypocritical lecture, especially when the Jesus prayer began in Egypt? And why aren't Oriental Orthodox teaching Eastern Orthodox.....instead of Eastern Orthodox trying to bulldoze them with the old story about "our Tradition is best because the Jesus Prayer was dogmatically proven and refined on Mt. Athos long after all 7 Ecuumenical Councils took place"? Copts are so negligent, yet so gullible.
I would think that after Jesus's resurrection and His ownership of Hell because He is Crowned from prince to King would mean that the ground He shed His blood on and for is now Holy. So, to take off your shoes would be a good thing to practice but the ground where God walks is holy and nothing can be hidden in filth. He owns it.
Just a thought
Jesus taught us ONE prayer and ONE prayer only, that is: 'Our Father in Heaven..."
There is no problem with the man made 'Jesus Prayer' .
Like any prayer that involves the name Jesus, I don't doubt it helps and brings spiritual renewal and elevation. That is surely a positive and welcome thing.
However, to create a 'mix and match supermarket theology' and suggest that the 'Jesus Prayer' is more effective and has some superior esoteric properties (that by default other prayers lack) is suspect.
politicaltourist I don’t think anyone is suggesting that the Jesus prayer is a set of magic words with mystical powers. Rather, it’s an effective way to stay close to Christ throughout the course of the day and to obey the Apostle Paul’s command to “pray ceaselessly.”
Much connotation is lost in translation but there is an even deeper and more valid point that seems to have escaped your attention; Jesus Christ would never instruct his disciples, let alone the common man to say a prayer that sounds anything like "Lord jesus Christ, Son of God have mercy on me a sinner" during any point of his ministry (!)...
♥ ♣ +++ His Holiness Metropolitan Bishop Kallistos Ware Is A Divine Mystic ~ A Very Rare Holy Being Of Full Enlightenment, An Eastern Orthodox Mystical Wise Eastern Orthodox Author! ♣ The Person Sitting Behind {Which Is Rude & Disrespectful} Holy Metropolitan Bishop Kallistos Ware Is Missing Out On Gazing Upon His Radiant Compassionate Holy Face While He Speaks & Radiates Bountiful Divine Blessings! WHY Is He Sitting Behind Him? ♣ Also, Why Is That Row Of Distracting People Sitting Cramped Up Next To Metropolitan Bishop Kallistos Ware? They Sit There Fidgeting & Constantly Yawning & They Are A Distraction From His Talk! They Are Intruding Upon His Space! ♣ The Loud Chanting & Clanging At The Beginning Goes On Far Too Long, As His Holiness Has To Stand There Waiting To Begin His Divine Talk! ♣ These People Do Not Have The Wisdom, Nor Intuition, About How To Receive A Respected Being Properly, Humbly & With Respect & How To Give Him His Own Space While He Talks! +++ ♣ ♥
What you think is a loud chanting at the beginning is a hymn said only in palm Sunday celebrating jesus entrance to Jerusalem and sung when a bishop visits also ..the fact that he is not coptic or oriental and they sung the hymn so it is even so respectful
Uh…why is he in an oriental “orthodox” church?
@Tanya It’s just a question. This is just another example of Met. Kallistos undermining the true faith. His position on Rome is false, his position on same sex relations is tenuous, etc.
It’s not wrong for him to be in a Coptic church simply because they’re Copts. Most, if not all of them, are better Christians than myself. It’s wrong because Kallistos has already sown much confusion amongst his flock. And then he does something like this to further the confusion? Sorry, but it’s not being pharasaical to call that out. He’s a bishop and should know better. The mere fact that he’s receiving a bishops welcome from them is suspect enough.
I see you put quotation marks on the word ‘Orthodox’ in reference to us. Might I remind you that only we kept to the Orthodox faith of Ephesus and our theologians, upon meetings with yours, made it clear YOUR Church did not hold to the faith of Ephesus.
@@tjdronex1113 Forgive me for my previous venom and pride. This comment was shortly after I converted (maybe a year into it or something?) and I was completely focused on the wrong things. May God soften my heart more and give me the ability to repent more deeply every day.
@@IAMFISH92 all is forgiven. Godbless your humility, this is something that is extremely rare nowadays.
And I totally understand, I am in the process of converting to OO, so I know what this venom is like. May God soften all our hearts.
Godbless.
@@tjdronex1113 Thank you for your mercy ❤️☦️ God bless you
why is he is in a temple of apostate heretics?
he is not a protestant nor among them. You are in error.
night time hermit * Emperor Palpatine voice * good, let the hate flow through you
Another internet bishop. Hooray.
the Jesus prayer is probably the only way one Can Pray without ceasing. this is what we are told to do in the New Testament.