HOW TO MAKE AN EBIKE IN UNDER AN HOUR!!! | TREK MARLIN 5 EBIKE CONVERSION
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This has to be one of the best videos I have ever seen, informative and pleasurable with the laymans terms Andy puts across. Excellent and will be purchasing.
Great video! No hours of bulshitting, straight to the point! Cheers for that . Greetings from Germany
Great video .The world needs more guys like this.
Dang, what a great vid. I've been looking at getting back on my bike but I'm hampered by a back / hip condition which greatly limits the power in my leg. Looks like I might have found a solution. Thanks greatly Andy.
Good for u mate👍
Me: Buys expensive conversion kit thinking it will take an hour
Reality:Takes me me 1 hour to mount the battery alone
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@@ahmaddarking5386 Sure, ask away.
@@Salgandarin shut up
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@@Rodo182 - I just built a conversation on my mountain bike with the same kit he used.
There’s no way in hell it can be done less than an hour. I am extremely mechanical & very comfortable working on bikes & it took me over 2 hours to install everything, including changing out the brake system & ripping apart the crank arm assembly to install the pedal assist.
Then another hour for the wiring.
I was all in for $550 & he’s selling this kit for over $1,000 AND it’s shipped from China directly. If you dig around on eBay you’ll find the kit.
By the way, the torque value is more important than the motor wattage.
Thanks for this inspiring tutorial Andy! I'm 68 and live in a mountainous area...very tough to actually pedal uphill at my age and condition. But if I can add a kit like this to my bike and then ride the ridges by pedaling...a new world opens up. I can't really understand all the technical details...but I think our local bike shop could help me with the conversion. Thanks for sharing. I'm excited! :)
Love this hope you got riding!
@@Rob-ws2kh I did indeed, with a Bafang 1000W motor. Very powerful when needed.
Great video and set up. I appreciate you showing the process of putting it together and how simple it was. It's cool how you can take the battery off for charging. You got my sub! cheers from Spokane Washington USA!
please tell me
Nice System 1, I have one too :) Am also looking to do what you've done here with the e bike, so thanks for the great vid !
A safety note: The brake disc bolts should only be tightened to the specified torque, which isn't high, only around 6.2Nm, about as tight as you can get with a normal Torx key without hurting your fingers - it should be a fingers action, not hauling on them with whole hand. Alternatively, just spend £20 on a torque wrench and set the torque with that, it's the right tool for the job (a battery drill isn't). If you "do them up really tight" you risk stripping the threads out of the alloy hub, as they're only tiny little bolts. This could just cause damage to wiring, or could cause a crash.
The important bit is the thread locker (Loctite 243 or similar) - medium strength Loctite 243 would probably stop the bolts backing out even if you just did them up finger-tight. Do them up to the right torque with thread-locker and it will be fine. It doesn't have to be actual Loctite, there are other brands available from bike shops or Amazon, or you can buy bolts with it already in place. Most appropriate medium strength thread lockers are blue, don't be tempted to use the green "high strength" Loctite thinking it's "better" as it can stick the hub threads so well to the bolt that the aluminium strips out when you undo the bolts. Threadlockers are anaerobic glues, they set in the absence of air, so when you do the bolts up make sure you're ready to do them all up (star pattern) and complete the job reasonably quickly.
Can’t wait to see how many miles she can do buddy.. nice kit 👌🏼
I have the same setup on my mtnb but mounted the controller on the underside of the frame with a junction box for all the wires. Found the controller was overheating in the bag and it looks much better underneath. Great vids m8 😎
Really enjoyed this vid Andy I'll defo be building one can't wait
Hi Andy,
first off - bike looks great! I have similar hub motor, the wire going into the motor has a gap to fit through the axle so its on outside of frame rather than between frame and disc/motor, yours looked like it might get snagged? unless i've done mine incorrectly...either way awesome build !
Now we're talking!!
What a wicked bike!!
It's really weird coz I just bought a frame (hard tail carbon 29er) and wanted to rig up a motor on it.
Thank God you've been there and done it as I want to buy an electric motor for mine and I can come to you for it.
Keep up the great work.
Hi Andy, really fun video can I just offer up a couple of things, I know you mentioned the torque arms, make sure that people use them when they have aluminium frames and don't even go for a test ride before they fit them, steel frames should be fine but on aluminium you will crack them very easily if you don't use a torque arm, also if people want a front wheel motor on suspension forks you shouldn't even turn the wheel without a torque arm, someone I knew snapped his dropouts at standstill both sides when fitted to a suspension fork with no torque arms.
Look at the kits provided by luna cycles, they use similar kits to you but they get the suppliers to fit really nice quick disconnect connectors to the power and the hall wires, I thought the days of Chinese ebike suppliers supplying those naff connectors were long gone but it seems not, you want the disconnect wires near the rear axle otherwise changing out the wheel if someone gets a puncture will be a nightmare with that screw in block? in the short term you could use 30A Anderson powerpole connectors, I have been using them for 10 years on my 40,000 mile ebike, I use a simple cheap 5 pin din audio jack for the hall sensors, little things like that make all the difference I think the 5 pin din was 50p from Maplins.
This is a direct drive motor, can you test the hill climbing ability, I would be interested to know how it fares, I have been on the ebiking scene since 2000 and did dabble with supply all those years ago with Mark Higgon from Team Hybrid way back in 2006 and it was fun but it can be a PITA when stuff starts going wrong especially the batteries, dont go investing all your savings in to it mate, Im glad I kept it just as a hobby, i wish you the best of luck.
40,000 miles.. Damn is that on the same motor and hows the bike I feel after just 1000 miles mines kind of slowed down my brother has a newer motor and he seems to just take off from me. I built both bikes and as far as i know the settings am all the same
@@MegaNayton Yes the same motor, it is a geared motor though and has had 1 set of gears in which I changed myself, there is a video about it here. th-cam.com/video/e2vAlXq3fGA/w-d-xo.html
Nice
@@MegaNayton isnt the motor thats wearing out ,its the battery ,if u are thrashing a 48v battery at 1kw for example expect its voltage to sag by 30% over half a years use
I love the mullet look with that Ebike Conversion. You just sold me on this conversion for my mtb. WIth my dorpper post and horn (attached to the head light) and rear taillight remote, I think I'm going to have to swap my handlebars out or use shorter grips to fit everything in the cockpit.
almost finish paying my bike in layaway lol cant wait to get it!!
Hi, just got the battery in from FedEx. I did exactly what you did and put the head lcd upside down. Really nice and fast well impressed. I added rim tape before adding the tube. Apart from that nice kit.
How fast is the top speed in moh?
That "tube stuff" is called spiral bind, or as we joke about with it..... "Pig tail"....... You could also take the screen and throttle wires down around the underside of the bottom bracket and up around the set post upright and put the bag under the saddle if the wires are long enough or up to where the bag can be put in the frame...... Well done Andy looks good, next you need to mount the paddle sensor and take off the throttle to make it a "bit" more road legal......
Great video!
Seriously considering one of these kits. Are there wheel sizes options? Ie 700c or 27.5"
great video Andy, keep it coming... I'm subscribing
Thanks! And welcome😁
@@andykirby how much range do you get off the battery in your kit
@@andykirby
I just fitted your kit and it’s working all ok. What is the correct settings for full throttle in the parameters?
Have just completed a conversion of this exact bike, trek marlin 5, 29er,
Fitted a 1500w hubmotor, controller and display look the same,
48V 21ah triangle battery,
power is great,
65kph on flat fully charged,
40kph up an incline,
30km range without pedalling, 60km range or so depending how much I help it by pedalling,
And the bike handles great, although braking has been affected as it is now quite heavy,
Niall Martin thank you for the information!!
sounds amazing. Where did you buy the kit and battery?
I bought the kit from CSC bikes on eBay, the battery I purchased from Etario store on Aliexpress as it was cheaper,
if I was doing it again I would get maybe a 1000w or 750w as I think they would be powerful enough,
On full throttle with the 1500w motor the display shows over 2500w consumption, not good for range when you do that,
@@NM-zb2mo Thanks for the response and tips! I'm building my own soon :)
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Hi Andy, watched quite a few of your vids now, great stuff! Just wondering, I have a Raleigh Velo ebike at the moment, is it possible to use my battery (think its a 36V) with one of your kits? (wheel and controller)
Loving the videos mate keep it coming
Very interesting I will be following
Hi Andy.,great video, you have converted a hard core enduro mountain biker to thinking e-bikes have amazing possibilities to other people and my family. Your energy and enthusiasm for e-bikes is contagious. Why did you stop at that slow moving stream? In Canada that is invitation to go faster or is there something I don't know about e-bike safe? I appreciate your sharing. Many thanks. Shayne, Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada.
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Lorraine Friesen Bruh you’re in a TH-cam comment section, not an E-Mail 😂😂 Speak normally
@@ahdkfknsbcienfnsk Lool
@@ahdkfknsbcienfnsk let the dude speak freely
Teighan CB Why you defending it you pagan
When undoing bolts you know have loctite on the threads some gentle heat will make it easy and save breaking your torx set. Ask me how I know, I've used this trick for years and never fails
I just ordered your kit tonight from your website can’t wait to install it
Hi Andy, I just bought your kit and it's going well ~ Quick question, how do I activate regen braking with the thumb throttle?
Andy, tip for the cable going into the hub: make it approach from below so that rainwater drips from the bottom of the cable loop.
Get those torque arms on! I lost my previous frame because the dropouts sheared off completely and the wheel fell off - not fun!
Yes, very important.
Good tips, yes the torque arm was on for the test drive part I did the next day. Very important, I didn’t stress that enough in the video for safety. Thanks!
@@andykirby Hi ! Can you make a video riding on this bike uphill without pedaling ? I want to see how it will perform in such situation. Thanks !
Yh thats happend to me
Hi Andy. Great video. Looking to do a conversion myself. Want to ask a question that doesn't appear to have been covered anywhere else... How easy would it be to replace the rear inner-tube if you're out and about and get a puncture?
Just came by your comment, and as a fellow conversion kit rider myself, it sucks :) Ive had 500w in front for about two years now, and you need a wrench and Allen key to undo the nuts on the axle and the torque arm. It can be done by turning your bike upside down in the field, but you would always need the tools. For me, ive bought a fake bottle, like the toolbox ones, and keep the tools in there. Also invest in some durable tires like the 'glassproof' Schwalbe marathon plus type. They weigh slightly more, but since youre on an ebike, this is a non issue. My tire change PR is about 2 mins, but your mileage may vary.
Nice job Andy looks cool and goes well👍
Great setup I just got mine 48v 1000w 20ah but haven’t tried it yet but can’t wait 😊
Used this kit on a trek Marlin 6, few remarks:
-There's no way you can fit it in under an hour, just tying up the cables properly cost me over 20 minutes😂
-The triangle is a bit smaller, so it's a bit harder fitting the controller in there and some additional washers were needed to get the torque arm mounted.
-I do recommend a seat post with a spring, going off road on a hardtail at high speeds will crush your crown jewels at the slightest bump in the road.
I have a trek marlin 6 small frame do you think it would fit
@@jakekay3821which gen
Hey man you've got the bars upsidedown.😂😂
He rlly doesnt
@@kerrywhitehead2640 yes he does aha
@@kerrywhitehead2640 he really does
He’s setting them flat that’s why they look weird
The guy converts bikes ffs 😂
Kerrys right on this occasion 🤙🏼 your bars ent just for holding onto they have different settings for each individual rider
Look it up on TH-cam 👊🏼
@@tro552 No he has them on upside down!
Just because he converts bikes to electric ones does not make him a bike mechanic...
Awesome video and thanks for sharing your tips ,and a beautiful bike 👍💚
Made that look easy mate, nice job
It is easy mate
A really lean mean fast machine this E Bike MAKE AN E BIKE IN UNDER AN
HOUR, is amazing well done you.Just a bit bothered about the exposed electric cables by the pedals?
.... its called insulation
I ran one of those at 50a for months 56v just shunt modded the 35a kt controller. the motor gave out finally when I went to 80amp and was doing a lot of pulls on the field. I think 3 to 4k is the limit for that motor without heatsinks and ferrofluid. the looks on the kids faces when you blow them away on there mopeds, even had a 125 fourstroke struggle keeping up. top speed with 27.5 wheel was 44mph andy.
On a 1000w 48v battery I get 35 on a straight did have 38 but only a few times that's only with a fully charged battery though can't imagine going 44mph though especially on a push bike
MegaNayton 40kmh or 25mph at either side if 40v is fast enough. Downhill I can reach 50kmh or 31.25mph and with a 20” wheel folder well satisfactory. At 40mph or 70kmh I could probably fit wings.
@@e-bikerbulgaria in looking too hot rid my sondors fold sport what motor have you got and what amps you running
I just got my bike on the charger for the first time this year. I need to get my brake lights worked out soon, and I am considering changing the fork or rebuilding it along with the head tube cartridge and front brakes. The hope brakes don't seem to bite like I would like, but I haven't tried to tune them much.
I really am thinking I want to do a low power setup that is bikeable for work commute. I am leaning towards a middrive for that, and may use my gt zaskar frame or start from scratch.
Hi Andy, I've got a trek marlin 7. Do you think it would work in the same way yours did. Also what size bike is this so I can compare sizes (ie small medium large) my marlin 7 is the medium with long tube
I've never known of E-BIKE conversion kits..
So this is a way cool video.
I'd like to ask do they make *CHEAPER* FANS for work sites with that don't have electricity, or for family reunions, gatherings at parks or cabins..
Or cheaper conversion kits to turn a gas mower to push to start
I’m concerned about the import duty that’s in the small print. How much extra is it going to cost to get it to me?
About an arm, a leg and one of your testies.
I got stung for £38 on the motor and speedo, and nothing on the battery.
I thought exactly the same thing. Did you end up buying it? How much extra did it add?
Is it worth buying the conversion kit? How much can you save by converting a normal bike rather than buying an e-bike??
The performance and functionality of this is much more than you'll get from a ready made ebike.
Hi Andy good video mate, I was wondering how mutch do them Ebike conversion kits start from? (including the battery & motor, controler, charger ect basically everything in a kit i would need to convert a normal bike over to an ebike ready to ride & go) as I was thinking of buying a ebike or converting my 26" inch wheel mountain bike over to an ebike with out spending a fortune in the process. was just wondering thanks
Nice one very simple and informative video. You have loads of enthusiasm and knowledge.
How have you found this setup over time. I'm thinking of doing the same with the same bike or do you have a recommendation for another bike to convert in the same price range
It’s working great and is a joy to ride, I’ve changed the front forks to proper rockshox air shocks now as the standard ones are a bit like pogo sticks! check the video a few after this one where I show the mods I did.
@@andykirby you never said how much the kit was and where you bought it from that's amazing how you guys don't mention the things that people wanna know the most amazing!
@@grangergreenback7152 - Its in the description.
@@sumran_domguy I made that comment before the video ended, then right after I went back and looked at the video again to see the price
It's a lot of fun building an ebike...why the rush?
Fair point but if some people need a quick form of electric transport to commute this is showing it really isn’t difficult.
Excellent video! Very informative, gives me more confidence to go head and build myself an ebike with one of your kits.
Also, I LOVE your videos with Dude stuff, after my ebike project I'll be going ahead and modding a Funbike MXR1300, I'm a little more nervous about that one though..
Very nice build, simple and powerful with a clean look. I'm amazed at how well the mismatched wheel sizes worked out.
Definitely want to put some torque arms on there. I have 1500 watts to rear hub motor (with regen), and it wore the dropouts even on my steel frame, to the point where the axle spun out. It took a long time for it to happen, but I wish I had just put them on. Now I have a scrap frame.
Thanks! Yes I didn’t stress the importance of torque arms in my video, I did actually install it before the main test run as you are correct, due to the high forces from the rear hub it. An easily wreck the frame or worse it could fail with you on it!
16:54 you made a battery there
Awwww no, I fixed the display the wrong way round🤪🤪
Would a 27. 5 wheel trek marlin 5 work with the conversion kit
Bro I love this so much your skills and your jokes elite class👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
Best to leave controller out of bag especially in the summer
Hi all,
I'm in the process of converting my Cube Ltd sl 29er to an ebike with this kit, wheel is finally in, just waiting on the battery to arrive from Germany.
I will give my impressions of the bike when completed and list all the problems I've encountered whilst doing this conversion so it may help those of you who are thinking of purchasing one.👍
How long did it take to ship/ despatch? I ordered one a few days ago
Hi, The wheel kit came within 2 weeks but the battery took about a month.
@@jasonlocke154 Oh OK, did you receive any sort of Tracking information from them? It's been 2 weeks and I haven't been updated at all
@@shahahmed6255 mine came via ups expedited . Took a little over 2 weeks packed perfectly.
Yeh China mail sucks but its worth the wait to save money.
Great video Andy and yes come the spring will probably have a one they look good fun.Not sure if it's Locktite you put on the bolts think it might be Thread Lock comes in diff colours for each strengh
Great video doing exactly this can the conversion kit go on a medium or large frame trek 5? Height 5,6
12:25 that was dope
Under an hour my ass, just getting the rear wheel to fit right takes that long.
John Doe-plorable well then you don’t know what your doing
Then use a front wheel electric motor to simplify the process.
I noticed that he never disconnected the battery 🔋 while he was assembling all of the electrical systems. People don’t ever do that at your home this guy is way to confident
You can turn the battery off and its isolated. Its wise to check with a meter first to make sure voltage is not present.
great video mate,have a nice day !
God please let me live like Andy heh doing and love hobby or job his waching his spirit rememind me in my pray some ide how to buy first e bike.Keep going Andy and God blees you.sorry for bad english.E bikes Ruless who love and undersand.
Wtf man?
God doesnt exist, ....if you want to live like andy only you can make that happen. ....no imaginary man up in the sky required. .....have a nice day.
Nice one! So what was the top speed?
I clocked About 35mph
That's about what my 1500w on 26" does too. I'm in the process of upping to 72v so it'll be fun to see what the result of that will be.. Apart from BANG !! So if you read somewhere that Peterborough has an Urban Terrorist then you'll know I welded the connections wrong !!
@@0utcastAussie cool, will you update the controller? Some 48V controllers can take 72V it all depends on the voltage rating of the electrolytic capacitors and/or the voltage rails for the controller circuits.
wow. 35 mph is fast on a bike. borderline scary.
Thanks buddy you have been very helpful I really can’t thank you enough I was going to buy electric bike once I saw your video I’m going to turn my bike into e bike thanks
Nice and very good in explaining keep doing videos like that.Thank you.
1 hour if I had the money :(
The kits are nice but with bike thefts so hi now I'd rather buy a heavy motorcycle style electric one at least that's alot harder to steal.
What models are you talking about?
Will that display work on my carrera ebike much better than the stock one.
Nice build keep up the good work 👍
I have a custom e bike top speed up to 50 mhp and 70 mil hour so really so nice and fast bike
Guys have to be go custome ebike online uk
Where you get the stuff for that
I thought the intro was some kind of pimp my ride intro
Hi if i brought one of these conversion kits , im in uk . How long would it take for postage to arrive to me
I already have a e-bike but only with pedal help. Is there a way to modify my current bike to add a thumb trottle? and/or remove the limiter thats limiting my bike currently to 25 km/h
Hi Andy, but here in birningham if get stopped by police on an ev push bike you braking the law for no insurance
mot its bloody madness
They'd have to prove it first. Link any stories of that actually happening. I'll await the very short, even non existent list of links of convictions....
@radio tech Regret not going there years ago when I had the chance. This place is an Orwellian nightmare
Just checked gov website: "These electric bikes are known as ‘electrically assisted pedal cycles’ (EAPCs). You do not need a licence to ride one and it does not need to be registered, taxed or insured." see - www.gov.uk/electric-bike-rules
So if Brummie plods stop you, refer them to the above and tell 'em to do one
i think if you have pedals you are ok, if you have fixed foot peggs you will have problems with plod as it is not a EAPCs
As long as the maximum power output isn't above 250 watts.
Dang, that whole thing looks complicated, plus a lot of bike shops in my area don't service Ebikes.
its easier than it looks ,trust me ,just match the colour of wires mount the things provided
You need service for a bike? Man, you're a lost cause! The guy in the video is an amateur level mechanic,and he's doing pretty well! You have to start somewhere if you're interested!
Great video mate!
I have a 500w Voilamart kit and will be upgrading shortly.
Do you have a printed copy of the steps/directions/ instructions on paper? Like maybe a download or anything? This is quite interesting. Thanks andy
You’ve installed the handlebars the wrong way up, the shifters should be underslung and if you don’t flip the brake levers over you will loose your brakes!!!!!
Doh!!! I wondered why the brakes were the other way around so I switched them😂 let’s just say I’m more of an electrics guy😄
andy kirby glad you spotted it 👍 have you been doing much with the amateur radio stuff recently?
I wonder if you can translate the video to English?!
I'm thinking about rigging one of these up for my fishing trips which will be off road as well as main road, this looks the bee's knees for what I need.
I got a Cannondale mountain bike and want to turn it into electric and trying to find out what electric wheels sizes I can use esp the front 37-622(700x350-28x 1 5/8x wheels ? this is what it say on the tires min.50-max.85 psi (3.5.-5.9 bar350-590KPa) 37-622(700x350-28x1 5/8x1 3/8) k-192-003 drive ?
Your bars on the wrong way
His hat too !
Maybe he's a welder.
finally a video for us noobs lol
Awesome! Hope it helps!
@@andykirby Andy what's your thought on a 500w motor v 1500w. Would the 500w motor be better for cruising at speeds of say 25-30mph?
What kind of performance can i expect with a 48v 14ah battery
Hi Andy, nice vid. I built a 2WD ebike with 250w 36v motors in front and rear. I've also got a 1000w 48v rear hub motor ready to be fitted. What I'm thinking is fitting the 1000w rear motor and still keep the 250w front motor, leaving the 1000w disconnected till I go off road. Any ideas how a 250w front and 1000w rear running at the same time off road, might work out?
Excellent vid, my kit arrived today so I’ll be putting it on my 2017 specialized rockhopper tomorrow, but at a much more sedate pace with many tea and biscuit breaks .
how you getting on. I am about to order one. How long did delivery take?
Mike Pell hi, to be honest the kit arrived in a couple of days from modds ebike and had everything you needed other than the battery , which I had ordered separately from Germany and took just over a week to arrive. With a busy work schedule it’s been on the back burner for a bit ,but I’ve mounted the battery , fitted display and throttle and then realized that the connection between battery and controller were completely different . New connections arrived today ,along with a more heavy duty tyre from schwalbe,but unfortunately I’m feeling under the weather and had a coved test today at stansted and waiting on the results, so for now it’s just all sat there ready to be assembled,but I’m just too unwell to crack on. This is my first attempt at an ebike build so I’m expecting some issues but will let you know how it goes when completed. It’s a 1500w kit with a 48v battery so I’m expecting some serious speed.......we shall see.
Does everything you need come with the kit??
Hi Andy, do you know the motors top speed with no load? What are the windings? Thanks
Hi Andy I have a standard heavy commercially sold ebike with a German mid motor but I kept my Hybrid road bike. I like the idea of fitting a rear motor and you seem to have assembled a cherry picked bunch of decent parts. Have you tried this on a road hybrid bike?
Great video mate! Hi from Australia 🇦🇺
Thanks for another great video
hey dude! im very interested in buying your kit but i have a question how many miles can it go on a single charge? thanks a bunch.
great video! I have been debating converting my mountain bike into an e-bike and using it more instead of my car for trips to the store, buddies place for a beer etc...
Thanks, you need to, they are a great form of transport.
I wouldn’t mind you building one for me. Great informative video!
Just bought the kit I have the exact same bike thank you for making this video!!! So excited
Have u received the kit? Just wondering before buying
spencer shone yes took a month. Works great but I ordered 26 tire and should’ve got 29. Other than that it works great
Hey bro, you have any idea of a bike I could ride comfortably, I’m 6’8”... please help... worksman? X-treme e bike?
Incredibly useful video. Thanks mate.
Great video mate. I've got one really, really basic question I feel stupid for not knowing - when you use the thumb throttle, do you have to pedal? I also have a trek 5 I'm looking to convert, I was wondering whether you can just keep your feet still and it'll still fly using thumb throttle? Thanks
Hey Andy I have a Carrera vengeance that’s a 27.5 wheel and frame will a 26 inch wheel work with my bike
I am considering to buy this Kit. Is this kit good for Mountain bikes which use hydraulic disk brakes?
Looks dope. I've got a trek superfly 6, would this work on it? Also, how long/much is shipping to the USA?
Mine came to $950