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- 👉 My full beginner bass course: yeah.bassbuzz....
Welcome to the first ever BassBuzz livestream! I'll answer all your questions, share some behind-the-scenes on recent videos, and play some bass.
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I'm slapping my boss instead of my bass for making me work late and missing the livestream
I started playing bass as a 48 year old a few months ago. I had never picked up a bass before but I'd watched a few of Josh's videos and signed up to his Beginner to Badass (B2B) course right away. This course is brilliant and you learn so much at a beginner level, playing your bass the whole way through. No boring scale drills, no music theory being thrown at you in huge overwhelming chunks that you have to memorise-- it's laid back, fun, and Josh's approach makes the lessons both enjoyable and informative. For the cost of the lifetime-access B2B course, I would get about six in-person lessons with a teacher and I would not cover anywhere near the amount of detail that Josh gives you in B2B. In fact, I went to a teacher after I finished the B2B course (I did the one month plan, but you can move at your own pace), and the teacher was surprised at how much I knew after only 30 days doing a course. I am a very happy customer and I highly recommend B2B to anyone. I have finally found 'my' instrument after a lifetime of feeling like a complete failure at anything musical, but Josh gave me a great foundation to build on.
well I might consider this too then, have to set my bass teacher on pause for a while because I lost my student job, inflation etc. and just cant afford it anymore to spend 100 euros a month. thanks for sharing :)
Congrats
I started playing bass in February 2021. Within the first few months I found Bass Buzz on YT and decided to go through the Beginner To Badass Course. It was absolutely invaluable! It gave me such a solid foundation for playing and understanding music, and was so much fun. As proud of myself as I was when I completed the course, I was also sad that it was over. I miss having you as a teacher! But I'm still loving my bass and doing very well :) I know I wouldn't be where I am without you, Josh. I just wanted to say thank you, and tell you that what you do matters! ♡
Thank you so much! Appreciate that. ❤️
It doesn't matter what instrument someone plays, if it's done masterfully it's fantastic. You are a bad-ass bassist.
You obviously never had a pipebag-player next to your window.
@@SxSxG666 LOL!! True.
Aw, thanks!
I'm a 67 year old guy, used to play a Ukulele. I've decided to fulfill a lifelong dream of finally mastering the Fender P-Bass. I bought direct from Fender, a 1960 American Vintage 11 Series, 3- color Sunburst P- Bass. I've Subscribed to your Channel, and play along to all your Videos. Keep posting because I'm definitely learning. I'm from Boston Massachusetts, and retired from the Federal Government , so I have the rest of my life to become a good Bass player. Thanks!
Wow... wanna trade bass with me hahaha. Just kidding. Welcome to the club of beginners ;-)
@@jeanmichelboudreau681 -Thank-you Sir!
Josh, I really appreciated your answer to my question, whether you would Bass Battle Flea. Even though it was a light humored question, the answer was actually pretty significant, especially for beginners to hear, if you think about it. All too often we see people getting wooed and wowed with how good someone is and comparing talent. I agree that music isn't about competition, and maybe the only person to compete and battle against is oneself in the pursuit of becoming the best one can.
I loved his answer too but I also think most bass TH-camrs do a battle mostly for collaboration purposes and to introduce people to other channels. If Davie504 didn't make a battle video versus Charles Berthoud me and many others might've not found his channel.
I watched part of it live and the rest this morning. One of the best Q&As I've seen.
As a first live, you knocked it out of the park.
Thanks for all you do for the bass community, and me as an older person learning bass.
Yes, G.A.S. guy needs to return.
Thanks so much David! I appreciate the kind words, as you know I was a bit tentative at the start. I had fun though! More to come for sure.
Thanks for the stream! Your channel is such a help to beginner and advanced bass players alike!
That Geezer Butler style solo you played during at 57:30 point of the video is excellent. Definitely captured essence of Geezer's approach. Tons of chromatic runs mixed in with the blues and natural minor scale (well to my ears that's what I'm hearing).
Really impressed with your chops! You've put some time in the shed!
I'm glad you're bringing so much joy and knowledge to the world my dude. Regards 🍻
Thanks Daniel!
I love your energy, humor and editing skills. It was nice to see you stream
Thank you! 😊
Hey there Josh. I'm a little late to the party on this one but I'm stoked you're adding live streams to your channel. If you're still watching this comment thread for questions I'd like your thoughts on how much time I should be forcing myself to set aside each week to practice in order to progress in a way that makes me feel like I'm getting something out of the experience. I got my first bass a couple years ago and then I finally purchased your B2B course many months ago. But I'm only on module 4 or something like that because I'll go weeks, sometimes months without practicing. I have a full time office job, 2 small kids who are very active and a wife who never has a shortage of things to add to my honey do list. So my practice sessions become these impromptu, unscheduled binges that are spaced very far apart. If I were to sit down and schedule a more disciplined practice routine, how many times per week and how long per session should I be targeting? I love the bass as an instrument and when I do play I have a lot of fun with it. I'd like to get good enough to seek out other musicians that I can jam with. Thanks for what you do. Your channel / videos are a large reason why I haven't completely abandoned my bass yet. Peace.
I am an old bass player, and I have enjoyed your content-both playing, and humor. And since I like you, I’ve recommended your channel recently to a couple of people that asked me how to get started.
Oh, and thank you for your answer on the bass battle question. I’ve said for decades: “Music-for me-is not competition, it’s cooperation.”
Thanks Patrick!
Hi Josh!!! I don't know how to express how much your Beginner to Badass course has motivated me to learn how to play bass. I just started this year, in march (I think), and I have improved so much and enjoyed every minute of it!
Your style, your personality, the structure of the course... I just love it!! You really rock!
You are by far one of my favorite people that I know, but doesn't know me (ha!)
Thanks Paulina, I appreciate that 😊
Watching it a year later, I´ve just started learn Bass at 37 years old and learning a lot from your videos, thank you!
Thanks for the stream Josh. Really well done.
Beautiful point about why you use the Squier in these videos. I think you're spot on about the implicit messaging of always using expensive gear - I definitely get that voice in the back of my head telling me I need a new fancy bass when I see people playing them.
Thank you Josh for all the great content and massive work in general! I follow the BassBuzz channel almost from the beginning and your videos are so educational in a very unformal way and really suit my slow learning "skills". The humor, the jokes and the easy going way of presenting the information is what keeps me following you and I speak probably from the majority of the people here. In short - just keep on rockin', because you make so many bassists around the world happy.
Greetings from Bulgaria and looking forward to your next video🎥
I thoroughly enjoyed your first live stream. Please do more in the future. Namaste.
Thanks Aditya, will do! Thanks for coming. :)
@@BassBuzz Sure. I had an idea for you. You can call your follow-up course "From Badass to Super Badass" or something similar. It'd be a hit! You heard it here first. lol.
Looks like it was a success Josh. Well done, look forward to the next one. 👍
Thanks mate!
Great teacher! Thanks for all the fantastic videos and instruction.
Thanks Bernie!
Just wanted to have a little rave about your beginner to badass course, which I bought on DVD a couple of years ago. I got half way through but broke my left thumb!!! Had to leave it for a while and have recently picked up my bass again to do the course from the start again. It's a great course and it's increased my confindence x 10. So, thank you 🤩🤩🤩😍👍
Sorry about your thumb, glad you're on the mend!
Man I just started playing again.I enjoy watching your videos and you have taught me alot.Just wanted to say thank you brother.
Thanks Mike!
So sad I couldn't watch it on stream, but it makes me really happy to see you!
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Hey Josh! Love the course so far, and I'm almost done with it! My favorite aspect of the course, and I'm not too sure what the case might be, but there have been several weekends where I've gone without doing the lessons because life is busy, but I can always come back and not feel like I do when I go weeks or months without drawing; when I abandon drawing I come back and have to refresh myself (figure drawing looks awful if I don't constantly work on it) but I don't get that kind of experience with the lessons. Anyways, I think I'm okay at coming up with melodies on my own (like in my head I'd hear a piano-ish type of melody and later try to recreate the ryhthms and notes, usually with great success) and playing along with drum loops, but I feel like I could be doing more with a similar course to B2B. More often than not I'm still jumping on my Songster app to learn a song I liked- mostly because of a lack of time to really learn the notes/rhythms by ear, but I'm not hopelessly reliant on tabs. Most of my joy comes from doing covers of my own beats and meddling with my multi effects processor 😅 if there's any artist I for sure feel strongly inspired by it's Muzz Skillings formerly of Living Colour. No matter how insanely fast or incoherent the grooves of their songs get, he's always laying it down with a killer tone! For reference, title track for "Time's Up" it's nuts!
My first axe was old 60s bass, that was a compleate wreck, and had flatound strings... well at some point those strings were normal strings that became flatwound from playing. At some point I was convinced that they were bronze strings, but turned out they were just rusty. Few years later I bought an old p-base that I used a lot. Later gathered some money and went on generic Silvertone bass, that I still own. It is about 15 years old, already. Past 2 years I went crazy and bought TRBX504, Solar 2.4BOP and Dingwall Combustion 5 strings... Well with my skills the 15 year old one works like a charm, but damn they look gorgeous on the wall, don't they?
Thanks from California,love your teaching style and fun you have doing it.
"you put yeh palm on the string and you mu' i'" is a better Michael Caine impression than I've ever managed in my LIFE.
Make a playlist on apple or Spotify, adding your favorite songs with killer bass. Just feel like I need to be cultured on a good bass line, especially in jazz and blues
Already done! open.spotify.com/playlist/2oJd19N9YIDBPPlUIDDy3W?si=5uJSKwMXSCSVG6yWr2_sBw&nd=1
@@BassBuzz well shit where have I been 🥲
@@BassBuzz I had a funny feeling that reading through the comments I’d find a gem. 👍
I'm 55 and am truly excited about learning from you (you're a Badass) it's been great watching you live ! How can I maximize my time while practicing?
Thanks Josh! Loving your course so far and this was a fun livestream
Thanks, glad you're digging the course!
Thank you, Josh! I bumped into this after the fact, but I have December 14 in my calendar!
Ah gutted I missed the live (2am in the UK), huge thanks for the amazing content, Josh. B2B course is fantastic, having a blast with it!
Thanks Sebnar!
You have a way of simplicity and understanding
Keep it going bro
Thanks Eddie!
I learned a LOT from the B2B course, and I haven't even gotten past slap yet. Recommended. The price alone was worth learning how to incorporate my pinky finger for fretting lol
Pensacola, Florida New Fam for sure and also very familiar with Nathan Savage in his guitar lessons and everything had quite a few with him and now I’m writing my own praise and worship music for church so now when I get back on the base that I haven’t played in 38 years and I’m looking to you for that
Man I wish I caught this live, this was awesome. It's insane how well-made all the stuff you make is
Aw thanks Oliver, I appreciate that! Hope you can catch the next one in December. :)
Thanks for the stream! I'm bummed I missed it live but will definitely be on the next one.
Thanks Matt!
This was a good listen. Thank you for doing this. Please do more live streams in the future.
Thanks Adam, will do!
Your channel is amazing! Thanks.
Thanks Stephanos!
Tag from Seattle. loved your course. play at church and some garage bands.
Excellent idea. Hilarious that you thought no one might tune in - the comments/ questions were rapid fire and you could barely read them before they scrolled away at warp speed. And thanks for answering a couple of my questions.
Haha, in retrospect it was a little silly to think nobody would come, I probably missed SO many questions. Thanks for coming Axel!
So pissed I missed this live stream. This was dope!!! Just watching u vibe on bass in the beggining was worth it.
Next one is next week, hope you can make it! th-cam.com/video/0oZv0VA-8So/w-d-xo.html
greetings from Poland! stream was at 3AM of my time 😅but it is so cool to watch recording, thank you for your dedication and kind attitude!
Thanks so much for doing this! Love your videos!
Finaly see you live. Thx 4 your vids and all the work you hv done. Helps a lot. Gr from germany
You’re awesome man!!
Love your style josh! Your instructions and lessons are great!
Thanks Rick, I appreciate that!
I recently bought a Sire P5 for €390 and it’s so good. I can’t believe the quality. I showed some friends at work and they guessed it was around $1000.
Thank you so much for this stream. I live in Germany so I couldn’t take part, ´cause I have two little kids… But I just watched it.
I just wanted to say that I super-highly recommend the BassBuzz Beginners Course.
I am only two days away from finishing the one month HARDCORE Plan! And what can I say?
I came from „no f…clue - how to play the bass“, to „noodle-doodle“- bass improvisation in just one month!:D
GOD BASS YOU, Josh;D
Thanks Tina!
heyo josh! i just wanted to drop a quick thank you for all the videos to guide beginners (like me) on how to learn the bass!
( I've been uploading my progress throughout the year to keep track on my improvent!)
just started picking up the bass around 1 and a half year ago, and been enjoying learning the bass up until now!
your videos really helped me to get through learning the bass!
once again thank you!
Thanks Mayer, glad I could help!
I'm a very old beginner & your videos are vey helpful. thanks
Glad I can help Tom!
i got distracted earlier and missed the stream, just finished watching it now tho and you did great as a streamer, doesn't even look like it's your first time. ill try to tune into the next one, thanks for your videos
Thanks so much!
Love this channel, thank you for keeping it up 💓
Thank you! :)
Great channel! I’ve learned so much can’t wait to get the beginner to bad ass course
Thanks for all your hard work, love your videos. Would love to see the return of GAS guy.
I bought a Ibanez SR370EF fretless to learn on. love how it feels compared to a fretted bass.
I had never heard the RHCP version of Higher Ground. What a killer cover!!
Wow, that's impressive you'd managed to not hear it already! Props. :)
I learned so much from your lessons. Greetings from Holland
Man I’m sorry I missed this, I’m half way through B2B and it’s been great. Your videos are the best keep them coming!!!
I'll do more in the future!
Hi Josh! Is it possible to place the smaller picture-in-picture somewhere else, so it would not cover your hands and bass on the main picture? And the side camera was focused mainly on the headstock and I would really apreciate if it could focused more on the fretborad. Any way, I'm a big fan. Love your approach to bass playing and GAS guy :D Greetings from Poland!
Thanks Marcin, both great points, I will do those things better next time. :)
Hey Josh, missed the live feed, but as always, great vid buddy. Love watching you vids, always honest and constructive. 🙌🏼
th-cam.com/video/CvdkJoPQlq8/w-d-xo.html
So glad to see a bassist doing a livestream!💥 Our community so needs this!💫🤘+.
Also, next time would you please ride the A string?😝
"As soon as they start growling I just get scared and I run away" LOL!! You're not alone Josh!! Old school metal FTW!
Haha, up the irons!
I want more of these livestreams! There’s a void in the bass live creators space that you could fill!
I'm a bassist that primarily uses a PICK (the dreaded plectrum) who spent a year playing almost nothing but fingers but went back to the pick several months ago. For the facts 90 percent of one's favorite bass players use a pick and I prefer the sound. Also yes, much like you I've been a huge MATT FREEMAN FAN all the way back to 1994 when I was 13. A year later I bought And Out Come The Wolves on cassette at the local Blockbuster Music in Lancaster CA (yeah I know I'm really dating myself) . My question being I adjusted my finger style and angles of playing over that year so it wouldn't cause arthritic pain anymore, whilst utilizing the 2 finger technique. Is there any form of warm up or even songs you'd recommend working on to get more comfortable with the fingers? I watched your video on stretching and that helped but I still get pain using the fingers after about an hour. For some reason I can play very accurately and clean with a plectrum but with the fingers not even close. It may have to do with fact I use to play guitar over 14 years ago, who knows?! I appreciate your channel and videos regardless of whether or not you get to my question. You've definitely helped motivate me over the last 2 years and 2 months of playing bass. Looking forward to more of your content.
Hey Josh, just wondering what set of headphones would be best for practicing bass guitar. I'm thinking of picking up bass guitar, and buying your course. I am looking at the different options for headphones. I'm thinking of buying the Sennheiser Professional HD 280 PRO. $129.99 Canadian. Seems like a really good set with a decent price point. What are your thoughts on those ones, and what other ones would you recommend?
You live stream?!?! How am I just finding out about this?! I feel terrible AND excited! Thank you Josh!!!
That was the first one! Next one coming in December :)
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you for this!
I missed the live feed but maybe you can reply here, so here it goes: when playing fast octave-triplets, (usually found in Disco or Funk) like in "Disco Ulysses" by Vulfpeck or "YMCA" do you alternate middle and index fingers keeping the alternation strict between the triplets so they are played as I-M-I -- M-I-M -- I-M-I -- M-I-M and so on, OR do you play each triplet in the same fashion like I-M-I -- I-M-I -- I-M-I -- I-M-I?
I've found both challenging - the first messes with my brain and the coordination between fingers, the second messes with my speed limitation. I've been trying to go for the first, thinking that coordination can be learnt but speed will always be a challenge, especially as I'm 45 now and I won't be getting any younger in the years to come. But... what do YOU seggest??
I'd tend to do the latter, I actually find it better for speed because the coordination is simpler. Same way Steve Harris does Iron Maiden gallops, IMI all day baby. :)
@@BassBuzz Heh I get you. Maybe I would benefit trying to shift as there's no real adjustment needed. IMI is there already. Thanks a great, big shiny lot :)
I knew how to play but I figured out what a " triad" is on one of your you tube lessons
I am running the bass into the Pod Go. It sounds great, but when I play open strings I can hear a high pitched unwanted frequency in the recording. Do you think a fret wrap would help with that? I notice you have one on your bass.
i love the live streams. sad i missed this! hope you do more live streaming in the future
Will do!
And thank you for playing a Squire during your tutorials and videos... nothing is more intimidating that instructors playing basses that we plebs cannot afford - it makes us wonder if that's why we sound crap. You show the possibilities of affordable instruments.
Hello from Italy! Is there a video of yours about using the pick?
Really enjoyed watching/listening to the archive. Hope to catch the next one live.
You got that smoothie recipe you mentioned? :)
Haha, I can detail the smoothie recipe next time!
@@BassBuzz lol, locking down that engagement
There is a measure of string squeak on the concluding noodle , how do you view / feel about that ? By the way i am just beginning to learn the bass , but i am trying my best to avoid the dreaded squeak as much as i can.
Love your channel Josh ! Apreciate all that you share with us. If only i had your fingers lol
Haha yeah they're pretty massive. Plenty of bassists better than me have small fingers though. :)
To the person who asked about getting a Rickenbacker 4003 - do it! I have a Fender (USA) Geddy Lee signature Jazz Bass and the Ric - love them both. Both equally easy to play (for me)…With these two, I have a LOT of versatility in the sounds I can get from them. Both are smooth/fast to play…(again, in my experience…but others that are instructors have played them and enjoyed both.)
Josh - According to the company, it’s pronounced “rick-in-back-er” so as to distance themselves from their German origins during/post-WWII. The “correct” way to pronounce it in German is “rick-in-bock-er.” So technically, either is correct…I guess one might defer to the company’s wishes on how it’s pronounced though.
Put your gear info in the description!! Save a lot of time and energy , could even say (in the description, as always! Hehe)
That's a good idea Parker, somehow hadn't thought of that even though every other TH-camr does it. :P
Late to the party and I wasn't able to watch this live because it was in the middle of the night for me. I just wanted to say it was a lot of fun and I've learned so much about Josh's banana! ... Okay, jokes aside. I'm a bloody rookie who just got a bass not too long ago and I appreciate your channel a ton. It's a great help in terms of avoiding pitfalls and I'm gonna check out your course once I've found a way to throw money across the pond \o/
Thanks mate! I hear the internet has ways of getting money across the pond lol :P
There goes my dream of mailing you single dollar bills, tsss...
thanks Josh, that was awesome!!!
Q: "How do you sound like John Entwistle?" A: "You don't!" LMAO! I think he did floating thumb.
Rickenbacker in my opinion is very limited and flat. Myself have a BC Rich Eagle. It has a brite sound, I have changed the bridge (badass) lowered the action and changed the pickups. Now it is super brite with a fast action...I would love a Warwick.
I knew the banana was from the Velvet Underground album but the raw food thing was pretty interesting. Also, I vote for Matt Freeman of Rancid for your next player profile.
You should do some more live streams! I missed it!
There will be more. :)
having trouble hearing kick drum on many songs. how to correct?
Hi! Love your playing style! I am from Bangalore - India, and looking to learn Bass Guitar. Do you offer an online course for beginners sir?
I sure do! www.bassbuzz.com/lessons/beginner
I am struggling with Fills and riffs. I read notes and play songs in church. I watched your shapes video which is good but how do I practice with real songs?
Gran trabajo, saludos desde Costa Rica
I listen to a lot your videos! You Mark and Luke! Thank you they are very helpful videos! I like more hard rock and Metal music. I like Victor Wooten, and Cliff Burton and the greatest Bass player on planet earth Mr. Billy Sheehan himself! When I get some extra money I am going to sign up for your course, So keep up the good work! Lol I am so not into Slap Bass though! Hehehe
YOU WERE IN A SKA BAND, LET'S GOOOOO YES.
Great tone! What are your string gages?
I'm new to bass. Longtime guitarist.
One major frustration that's new is fretting noise. Seems like especially on the E string (but also the A string) my fingers on my fretting hand cause all kinds of terrible noises.
Like the clicking sound of the bottom of the string hitting the fret wire when I fret a note. Orrr the forty buzz sound that occurs when sometimes in the milliseconds as I'm pressing down or lifting off a fretted note. (I don't know if bass has a word for this).
How do I eliminate these noises? What am I doing wrong?
Hey Michael, most of that sound doesn't come out of the amp, just acoustic noise. But that scratchy/buzz/rattle sound at the end of notes comes from lifting off too slowly. The moment in between fretting (pressing all the way down) and muting (no pressure resting on the string) is where buzz happens, because you’re apply enough pressure to make the string rattle on the frets, but not enough to actually fret a note.
The trick is to try to approach it more like an on/off switch, and spend less time switching from one state (fretting) to the other (muting). That’ll get rid of the buzz, once you get the hang of it - it takes focus at first but eventually becomes second nature.
@@BassBuzz You absolutely rock. Thank you so much. This is why i've been binging your channel like it's going out of style. You make things so simple. Well, simple until I see you play something awesome that is ;)
Hi, I will be curious of what you think of Dougie Thomson, bassist of Supertramp. Btw, thank you for your vdo. They are very good
You are a really cool guy, and put your grain of salt in the whole bass comunity. No VS mode, only fun of play music and teach someone else what you already now.
Thanks Diego! Yeah, I had fun ranting about that. ;)
Hi! What is your setup for the stream, how do you make both the bass and voice sound so good? And if you wanted to play along to a song, what would be the best way to channel the song into the stream as well, and still have everything else synced well on stream and in the recording of the stream?
It'll take a couple more streams for me to be confident my clever setup actually works consistently, but since you asked:
- bass and vocal mic run into audio interface into Logic with some EQ/compressor processing
- I use an internal audio routing app for Mac called Loopback and created a custom device to pull from Logic and send it to my streaming software
Seemed to work well except for the one weird moment!
@@BassBuzz Wow, thank you so much for the answer! Aw, this sounds very complicated to me though.
The reason I'm asking is because I often play bass with my friend over Discord/Skype with a video chat. We live in different countries, so obviously we can't jam together during these calls because of the internet delay, so we simply take turns and show each other songs we learn and teach each other different things. Over years we couldn't come up with anything better than simply playing bass into amp that is being captured by webcam microphone (along with the video), which sounds...mediocre at best.
I tried different setups (I'm on Windows): plugging my bass through my audio interface into my computer, making bass signal/voice go through the software called VoiceMeeter (it allows to unite and adjust different audio channels), sharing songs I play to through the screen share option in Discord/Skype...A lot of these options worked alright live, but I faced so many issues when trying to record some of our bass sessions with Bandicam, the screen recording software I use. Either I couldn't hear him speaking in the final recording, or my bass sound was missing in the final recording, or the worst: I could hear everything but somehow in the recording it layered with a delay from the song I played to, so even though it was perfectly in-time during the call, it would be horribly desynced with a 1-2 second delay in my final recording. And in general, voice and video from these recordings were often off-sync too.
This all was so frustrating that I simply stopped trying and opted to just playing everything into the web camera microphone, including putting a song I play to through a portable speaker (which often sounds horrible in the final recording if I mess up the volume levels). I wish I could get a setup even sliiiightly closer to the perfect sound you get without buying too much new gear or becoming a software/audio guru. Like, I'd be ok with investing into a new good mike but probably not into another audio interface or amp (I have Line6UX1 for audio interface and my amp is Fender Rumble 40). Would you recommend anything for a relative beginner/intermediate (I play bass for three years, he's been playing for over a decade) to improve the setup in a situation like this, or should we just not bother?
dude from Godflesh plays a jazz bass. they're pretty metal.
Did you reference movie Used Cars? Love that movie.