@@jesusoftheapes joe burrow is literally the opposite of jamarcus russell. he works as hard or harder than anybody else in cfb. jamarcus russell was a bum that didnt study film or anything.
@@lsuhq9051 the idea is a QB with one great season getting a push up scouting boards to only find failure at the next level . Nothing to do with the personal styles each player had just the obvious fact he probably is not going to be the star QB at the next level like Russell was .
jesusoftheapes Russel was not really a star QB. He was a bust because he never watched film and didn’t prepare. Burrow watches as much if not more film than the coordinators do. And anybody that knows anything about Quarterbacks will tell you that burrow is one of the most NFL ready QBs to come out of the draft. If he is a bust, it will be because the bengals organization ruins him. The bengals are one of those teams that has the worst ownership in the league and they ruin careers. I think joe burrow has the ability to rise above that because he still hasn’t reached his ceiling after all of this. He still can get better. Joe burrow is not jamarcus Russel. He is the opposite of jamarcus Russel
These videos need more Austin! I love everything he does with PFF. Very humble dude who really knows his stuff. He and Mike compliment each other well!
I may not always agree with Mike, but I very much respect that he's always willing to present his full opinion, rather than hedge like 99% of the draft analysts out there. Also, whether he's in favor of a particular player or not, just having him breakdown their skillset gives me something tangible to watch for when trying to come to my own conclusion. Like any entity, PFF has room to grow. Sometimes they do miss the obvious -- like having JJ Arcega-Whitseside and Andy Isabella above Hollywood Brown and Deebo Samuel -- but if you look at the big picture, their final pre-draft rankings are as good (or better) as anybody's. And Mike is a big reason why!
Seems like every year once the runningbacks have declared for the draft, most of the fans/analysts grade/judge/evaluate rb prospects by eventually focusing mostly on a players speed/athleticism/college stats and overlook how important ball carrier vision/smart decisions being patient reading blocks/quick hitting holes is.
Cd Lamb is my new wr 1. I love Judy but Lamb is carrying a top 5 college offense as a receiver. Judy is great but he doesn’t get doubled enough due to the Alabama depth. Lamb is so damn good
Awesome seeing Shenault getting some love, last season he got me in my seat and excited for Colorado games, hasn’t looked quite the same this year but I’m almost certain he’ll succeed on the next level.
I Don’t know yeah he has potential, nick foles is old and doesn’t have many peak years left. I think they should build around minshew unless they find another young star
Does anyone know where I can find raw film for the biggest prospects in the 2020 draft? The website I used to use closed down and I haven’t found a replacement. Thanks
Look. The qb position has changed in the NFL. If you can't see a qb being competitive with Mahommes, Jackson, Watson, Wilson, and Kyler, don't bother picking them at the #1 position. Pick the best player available and if you must pick a qb pick them later. Is Baker any better than Lamar? Is Darnold any better than Allen? How did Rosen work out? If a qb is not in the same league as those top 5 then just gamble on a lower pick.
Y'all take on Justin Jefferson is just pathetic that Kid is special. He was great before Burrow transferred to Lsu. Why y'all so damn jealous of Todd Mcshay? Smdh
Ok so here’s why you’re wrong about Etienne over Swift Etienne has 70 broken tackles against ACC opponents and Swift has 34 against SEC opponents the defenses they play against are completely different and honestly Clemson in my mind should not even be in the playoff this year. They have not played a ranked opponent yet almost lost to an unranked NC team with a first year head coach (obviously not coach Browns first year coaching but first year at NC) I believe if you put Swift in the ACC he’d have better stats better broken tackles and all around better film. Clemson cheats the system year in and year out and do not get punished for it. There players only play half a season due to them beating unranked opponents by 40 in the first half. Just my opinion though if anyone disagrees I’d love to hear the argument.
I think the statistics would obviously show that Etienne is a better player than Swift, and one of the reasons for that may be the difference in opponent strength, but I think if you watch the film that it's pretty clear that Swift shows more of the ability that is valuable for NFL backs. Both backs have great vision, but Swift is a far superior receiver, is more effective in being elusive, and finishes runs. You can talk about broken tackles all you want, but watching Etienne, he's not great at making people miss and is often taken down by a single defender. This isn't to say that Etienne isn't a great back, but he's not going to be the special player that Swift will in the NFL
I listened for 30 minutes to hear what y'all say about Calvin Throckmorton and all you say is his name then talk about a guy you graded behind him. Film on Throckmorton shows him pushing defensive lineman back damn near to the safety level. He doesn't just block, he dominates every matchup.
Clelin Ferrell has been getting PFF 85+ ratings week after week and you couldn't get a 3 for him? He has the same # os sacks Kahlil Mack had as a rookie....would love to here your Kahlil Mack remarks Nov 2015
Burrow verses Chase Young. Both good athletes and 1st rounders. More opportunity to make great plays at the quarterback position, less so at defensive end. This is a no-brainer folks. Burrow is the next generation of Tom Brady, faster, stronger, maybe even more accurate with a brain like a computer that can break things down. He's the best quarterback coming out of college I've ever seen since I've been alive.
They must be east coast and dont stay up late to watch Pac 12 games. Herbert was garbage vs ASU. I really dont think this guy watched the game, because everything he said is wrong. "Hes been trending up, avoiding those bad games lately"? Oh really? He had a REALLY bad game 48 hours ago.
So here’s the thing - Etienne broke way more tackles than Swift yes. Etienne also played in a MUCH softer conference. These pff guys look a bit too much into their own stats and don’t apply enough context with it imo. Swift is far superior to Etienne imo. On film and on the stat sheet with what he provides as a receiver and how much more elusive he is going against SEC defenders. Don’t get confused - It’s Swift as the top dawg at rb and it’s not particularly close. I’d take Taylor and Dobbins over Etienne too.
Jacob Eason will never be an NFL starter. When the play breaks down, he panics. When this happens, sometimes he throws into double coverage, sometimes he starts running backwards. And it appears that de doesn't process information very quick. He has a live arm, some mobility, can throw guys open, but needs a clean pocket and a run game.
Y'all are still overrating Tua Tagavailoa. He is way too injury prone, and players take harder hits in the NFL. Prospects like Jake Fromm and Justin Herbert are way better, and safer choices
‘We love receiving ability in a running back’ Clyde Edwards helaire- 1,000+ yard rusher and 300+ yards receiving, averaging 8 yds/catch....cmon man. And no dobbins in the top 5? Thats wild
I have no understanding how Etiene is not everyone’s top back. He averaged a score every 9.8 touches in his career coming into the season and the dude scores 90 yard tds every other week.
Man an average qb is in no way equal to an elite edge rusher in the draft. there are average QBs every year on the waiver wire, but good luck picking up Aaron Donald or jj watt in free agency I guess. All these analyst are basically saying all u need is a qb which is false
Agreed. The 2018 draft class of qbs was a disaster except for Lamar (boderline Allen). Take the can't miss player since the qbs have been less than a coin toss.
Miami or Bengals, whoever picks #1 should pick Chase Young. It's not even debatable. Fitzmagic and Dalton are good enough to take you to post season play. Miami has so many picks they can get Young and a top rated qb. Bengals get Young and load up on OL. This draft class of qbs except for Burrows is not that great. Wait for 2021.
I think u guys need to focus more on evaluating the talent around the players you guys are grading and their opposition. Yes some players have all the right measurements and stats, but the amount and lack of talent on their team along with the players on the other side of the field has a tremendous impact too. If you guys don’t do this, then you’re grading and opinions look biased and just down right favoritism. Overall solid stuff.
why can't MIA draft a QB and Young? They have 3 first round picks... admittedly I don't think they will be able to get Young, because they are almost certainly beating the Bengals and the Giants/Fins game will be matchup for the next spot, but lets say they end up with #2. I see their Steelers pick (currently #22) moving up a few spots, as I see the Steelers losing at least 3 of their next 5 (at best ending 8-8, but they could falter to a worse record). As for the Texans pick (#25) I also see them losing at least 2 games (10-6, though they could also falter). Which will likely put at least 1 other first round pick in the 8-14 range, and then their final 1st pick goes in the 16-22 range. That's more than enough to grab Young #2 overall, and grab your choice of the next QB's maybe excluding Tua, but maybe not, depending on how teams want to gamble with his injury, and if they need a QB to perform now, vs sitting a year. Have your cake and eat it too Miami, that's what you get for going full rebuild mode (PS, a QB won't help your offence all that much with your terrible OL, maybe fix that, and not trade away a franchise tackle, huh?)
@Kevin R Not with their first of 3 1st round picks. Maybe, doubtful but maybe with Pitt's pick in the mid first round they take Tua if he is there still. Most likely Miami drafts DE/LT with their first pick, RB with their next pick and at the end of the first round either a DE or LT depending on whether they got Chase Young or Andrew Thomas with the top pick.
PFF is almost always wrong. Subjective rankings and grading system. Total bias. They never can account for players drive, heart, will, determination etc etc which is what helps makes players special.
Tua and Fromm will be busts. Lawrence should stay another year. Burrow is the most sure pick. Eason should be drafted as a 'future' QB, so maybe a team like the Chargers should pick him. If I am the Dolphins or Redskins(assuming Bengals are first and pick Burrow) I am trading back or taking the 'best available' player, not just the most valuable position. So if I am the Redskins at 2, I am taking Chase Young - same goes if I am the Dolphins at 2. Imo, pick 2 should pick Chase Young if Burrow goes first. Pick 3 should try to trade out of their spot. If it's the Dolphins, I say trade out for more picks.
That Heisman Trophy is blinding everyone & everyone will see very soon. And that Heisman Trophy is blinding the Cinninnati Bengals the most ; " Don't pass on " CHASE YOUNG" !! Arizona let that Heisman blind them the same last year ; I know they are still kicking "Themselves" for passing on NICK BOSA !!!!!!!
D'andre Swift is the hardest worker and most disciplined out of all backs. His father is disciplinarian to the core and has instilled an insane work ethic in D'Andre. Etienne is the fastest hands down, Jonathan Taylor reminds me of a little faster version of Fournette .J.K Dobbins and Cam Akers very similar talent level both have the ability to successfull in the pros. Keyshawn Vaughn is a great dark horse as well.
Jonathan Taylor is no Fournette. Fournette is very fast especially at 230 lbs. he’s a freak, modern day Herschel Walker(just in a bad situation). I do like Taylor tho. The jaguars offensive line has been a joke since he got there. Dandre Swift and Clyde Edwards-Helaire are the most complete running backs right now by far (Najee Harris is coming along but we’ll see) .. running , pass protection, route running/catching , speed/power combo. Swift isn’t being utilized properly at UGA . He fits more of the LSU type offense. Would love to see him on the Chiefs . Saints are the perfect fit but Kamara is already there so.. the eagles are an interesting fit for Swift but idk if they’ll use him right and Miles Sandes has potential.
@@JohnnyBravo02 Dolphins may draft swift with the 25th pick...I think quite a few of these backs could be special. Etienne has all the potential in the world but has to learn to use his vision and blockers better. Taylor has too many carries on his body for my liking. Swift is the closest to being worth the 1st round pick. Just has to stay healthy and be used in a heavy passing attack offense. He can be a workhorse. A better version of knowsean moreno.
Geoff L. I strongly believe that Swift is a Saquon Barkley type talent , just less powerful and more of a finesse runner but still powerful if that makes sense. Lol I actually believe in the dolphins coaching staff and know they will not waste Swift’s career. That staff just needs more talent to work with , which they will next season. I really thought Tua and Swift would’ve been an ELITE backfield but Tuas hip situation makes it a sticky situation. You won’t find many players with Swift’s talent AND work ethic/leadership combo. He’s no where near his ceiling. Most people don’t realize what he’s gonna be at the next level in the right scheme .
Geoff L. This is by far the deepest draft Iv ever seen at every position. Draft picks are never locks to be hits but this draft is FULL of players that will be success baring injuries and bad coaching. The dolphins would have to be idiots to mess this draft up with all their picks .
@@JohnnyBravo02 unfortunately with the Dolphins front office, I'm left with a believe it when I see it situation. I would like to have Chase Young to add to that defensive line though. Also grab Tua with the second pick and Swift with that 3rd first round pick. Lineman and corners I the 2nd round. Then next year we can go back to getting more offensive lineman and the team should be in a position for success. We'll have to hit on those 2nd round picks and maybe 1 to 2 of the later picks to really turn this this team around in the next 3 years though. Chase Young is the type of player the phins have been missing since Jason Taylor though, he's a prospect we just can't pass up on. Hope we get the 2nd overall pick bc that's the only way we snag him. His pass rush on the outside with Wilkins and Godchaux in the middle would be a welcome addition and help the 2nd and 3rd levels of the defense.
Jordan love a top 5. Tua completely healthy is number 1. Joe burrow will not be able to handle speed of NFL. You seen it last year when the sec had way better defenses. Monday will make burrow lose his chance to be 1.
Mark Jefferson How are you justifing 15 TD, 19 INT? He’s just another Tyree jackson, who can sling it, but has no touch. In Russia we call it ,, He throws it to NAHHHUIII!!!’’
@Chandler Russell I love Falk! But he doesn't have the mocsy Gordon has. If you're smart; you'd run the system for him. You do that with any QB, Cater to their strengths.
Giants should take C. Young, trade back up in first round for K. Murray, use 7th rnd pick n defensive player Janoris Jenkins for 2rnd pick, 3rd rnd Safety
The Bengals better take Young. Last year there was an argument to take Bosa over Murray. Murray was a better quarterback than Burrow and Young is better than Bosa. Also, the Bengals will not be much better next year with Burrow or with Young, but the following year you can get Lawrence or Fields. I would much rather have two transformational players, 1 at qb and 1 at DE than a good quarterback and no one next year near as good as Young.
Mason Bodi I don't see him being better than Jonathan Taylor. I'm not particularly high on Dobbins though. He just doesn't have any real wiggle to him, but obviously I might be wrong. It's gonna be fun a year or two from now to look back and see.
Also - I agree you have to take positional value into consideration, but to say "I had Saquon Barkley in the 30s" shows how flawed your system is. Guys like Saquon, Kamara and Mcaffery are 90% of their teams offense. Is that not enough value for you? Some players transcend their position, and become the centerpoint of the entire team.
@@laynebrock Overall yes, but Saquon was the best pick they couldve possibly made. Hes the center of their entire offense. Who should they have taken instead of Barkley? Theres nobody whos more valuable than him, to them now.
Brodha Sattva They could’ve went many different ways with their number 2 pick that would’ve added more value than saquon did...Lamar Jackson, Sam Darnold, Bradley chubb, Quinton Nelson, Minkah Fitzpatrick, Derwin James, Jaire Alexander. They could’ve went Quinton Nelson and gotten Nick Chubb in the second round and that would’ve been better their original first 2 rounds of saquon and Hernandez.
@@laynebrock This is nothing but hindsight. Should they have also drafted Tom Brady? Cmon man. Knowing what you know at the time, they made good picks.
@@davidhall2197 I'm a phins fan as well and honestly after what I saw my thought process is if we can't get burrow go after a late round qb and get chase young
I knew he was cooked once Bow Nix out dueled him week one vs Auburn. How can you be a top ten pick and get out played by a true freshman. He’s a specimen but doesn’t have the sack to play QB at a high level in the NFL.
I just don't see it with Jacob Eason? I can name 2 quarterbacks that's better than him that's coming out in this year's draft. Anthony Gordon Jamie Newman
Not all their saying is true look at when Derek Carr was drafted at his draft class he was drafted in the 2nd round and all the 1st rounders QB from that draft were busts or had short careers
@@bringthenoyz they don't mention cos alot of time PFF is full of s**t look at what they are saying about Clelin Ferrell but they don't talk about the fact he has played all over the defensive line and some linebacker to help stop the run. They also don't mention that Maxx Crosby has almost the same sacks as Nick Bosa and more than Khalil Mack with far less snaps RN4L
Mark Jefferson he doesn’t have the prototypical RB build/speed and he’s just now popping off. If he played all season like he has recently he’d be up there
Mark Jefferson yeah they’ve been hiding him most of his career he was the number 1 recruit in the nation coming out because he was elite in every facet. He played receiver at 7 on 7s and was mossing people. Dudes a stud and hopefully returns next year
Constructive Criticism: these videos need more graphics/texts... Hard for someone to follow without listening to the whole video throughout...
Was gonna say the same thing
Yeah i agree
And some videos of who player are talking
Agree, they say the name so quick sometimes that it's hard to know who they are even talking about after.
Bengals ready to get the best long snapper of all time with the first draft pick
Ohio pass rusher or QB castaway . Joe Borrow is Jamarcus Russell
@@jesusoftheapes joe burrow is literally the opposite of jamarcus russell. he works as hard or harder than anybody else in cfb. jamarcus russell was a bum that didnt study film or anything.
@@lsuhq9051 the idea is a QB with one great season getting a push up scouting boards to only find failure at the next level . Nothing to do with the personal styles each player had just the obvious fact he probably is not going to be the star QB at the next level like Russell was .
jesusoftheapes Russel was not really a star QB. He was a bust because he never watched film and didn’t prepare. Burrow watches as much if not more film than the coordinators do. And anybody that knows anything about Quarterbacks will tell you that burrow is one of the most NFL ready QBs to come out of the draft. If he is a bust, it will be because the bengals organization ruins him. The bengals are one of those teams that has the worst ownership in the league and they ruin careers. I think joe burrow has the ability to rise above that because he still hasn’t reached his ceiling after all of this. He still can get better. Joe burrow is not jamarcus Russel. He is the opposite of jamarcus Russel
They already have the goat at long snapper. Clark Harris, mvp.
These videos need more Austin! I love everything he does with PFF. Very humble dude who really knows his stuff. He and Mike compliment each other well!
I may not always agree with Mike, but I very much respect that he's always willing to present his full opinion, rather than hedge like 99% of the draft analysts out there.
Also, whether he's in favor of a particular player or not, just having him breakdown their skillset gives me something tangible to watch for when trying to come to my own conclusion.
Like any entity, PFF has room to grow. Sometimes they do miss the obvious -- like having JJ Arcega-Whitseside and Andy Isabella above Hollywood Brown and Deebo Samuel -- but if you look at the big picture, their final pre-draft rankings are as good (or better) as anybody's. And Mike is a big reason why!
everybody hates on Jonathan Taylor but he is a work horse and runs with a generational combo of speed and power the combine will impact his pick
No love for JK Dobbins... Damn. Lol
You can usually tell whos gonna be bad based off that wack ass name💀
Angel G dobbin💀
TCM Bama just like ha ha Clinton-dix
Angel G ik i do and fuck you too my guy
Clinton-Dix should change his name to Lewinsky...🤔
Seems like every year once the runningbacks have declared for the draft, most of the fans/analysts grade/judge/evaluate rb prospects by eventually focusing mostly on a players speed/athleticism/college stats and overlook how important ball carrier vision/smart decisions being patient reading blocks/quick hitting holes is.
Cd Lamb is my new wr 1. I love Judy but Lamb is carrying a top 5 college offense as a receiver. Judy is great but he doesn’t get doubled enough due to the Alabama depth. Lamb is so damn good
PLus lamb is a beast in the openfield with juke in shakes. he is a yac monster but also a deep threat at the same time. Judy is also great.
VSauce 4 jeudy*
Awesome seeing Shenault getting some love, last season he got me in my seat and excited for Colorado games, hasn’t looked quite the same this year but I’m almost certain he’ll succeed on the next level.
Bro Cam Akers a beast don’t sleep.
Dalvin Cook effect
Running back class pretty loaded. Cam Akers is underrated
I have no respect for this dudes evaluations after just disrespecting JK Dobbins
I'm not the biggest fan of pff but I like these two guys, pff needs to keep these two together they bounce off each other really well
So based on what you're saying Browns should definitely be in the market for a qb, being ranked at the bottom of the league. Correct?
JK Dobbins is a top 5 back.
Fax
RoNīN GaījīN I would even say he’s the best back in football
It should be swift dobbins then etn
Taylor at #4????? I’m sorry but I personally do not get that
Erik Berg EXACTLY
Didn’t Minshew have a 70% completion percentage?
Chandler McBride he went to WSU who ran air raid, so many believed he was a system qb
He was the best the jags need to start him tbh with u
I Don’t know yeah he has potential, nick foles is old and doesn’t have many peak years left. I think they should build around minshew unless they find another young star
What I can tell you is that if Saquon Barkley was the 30th player on your big board, you don't have much credibility.
They really had 29 better players ahead of Saquon? wow
Yeah, because he added a ton of value to the Giants...not
@@BH-lj7jk are you saying that Daniel Jones has?
Swine-Flew that’s only relevant depending on what PFF said about drew lock
Yeah and he should’ve been lower
Does anyone know where I can find raw film for the biggest prospects in the 2020 draft? The website I used to use closed down and I haven’t found a replacement. Thanks
Mike and Austin where do you see olinemen Isaiah Wilson OT Georgia and Alex Taylor OT South Carolina State going in the draft?
Look. The qb position has changed in the NFL. If you can't see a qb being competitive with Mahommes, Jackson, Watson, Wilson, and Kyler, don't bother picking them at the #1 position. Pick the best player available and if you must pick a qb pick them later. Is Baker any better than Lamar? Is Darnold any better than Allen? How did Rosen work out? If a qb is not in the same league as those top 5 then just gamble on a lower pick.
I’m Sorry, Did I hear you Say Saquon Barkley was 30th on your Big Board Last Year? Is that Serious?
anthony gonsalves that’s FUCKING EMBARRASSING. 😂
I love Michael Pittman jr.
Wow you guys missed on Justin Jefferson bad...
Harrison Bryant wasn't in the top 5 TE?
Y'all take on Justin Jefferson is just pathetic that Kid is special. He was great before Burrow transferred to Lsu. Why y'all so damn jealous of Todd Mcshay? Smdh
PJ Clemons lol forreal the todd mcshay schtick was weird
The broken tackles is interesting But Clemsons ACC schedule definitely advantage over Swift playing SEC schedule
It doesn’t make half the broken tackles on 40 more carries reasonable. Etiene avengers a td every 10 carries and he isn’t the goal line back at all
VSauce 4 hell I would too playing ACC schools and Wofford. I’d score every damn play
How can yall sleep on Micheal Pittman Jr in your WR list?
Right
Jordan
Love?
Is WR John Hightower of Boise St in the 2020 draft ?. If so , where do you have him on your board ?.
Probably a 6th to undrafted guy
Ok so here’s why you’re wrong about Etienne over Swift Etienne has 70 broken tackles against ACC opponents and Swift has 34 against SEC opponents the defenses they play against are completely different and honestly Clemson in my mind should not even be in the playoff this year. They have not played a ranked opponent yet almost lost to an unranked NC team with a first year head coach (obviously not coach Browns first year coaching but first year at NC) I believe if you put Swift in the ACC he’d have better stats better broken tackles and all around better film. Clemson cheats the system year in and year out and do not get punished for it. There players only play half a season due to them beating unranked opponents by 40 in the first half. Just my opinion though if anyone disagrees I’d love to hear the argument.
Where is Justin Fields?
Do you guys have Pat Freiermuth (Penn State) outside the top 5 TEs or do you just think he won't enter the draft?
He's a sophomore. He will be eligible in the 2021 draft.
I think the statistics would obviously show that Etienne is a better player than Swift, and one of the reasons for that may be the difference in opponent strength, but I think if you watch the film that it's pretty clear that Swift shows more of the ability that is valuable for NFL backs. Both backs have great vision, but Swift is a far superior receiver, is more effective in being elusive, and finishes runs. You can talk about broken tackles all you want, but watching Etienne, he's not great at making people miss and is often taken down by a single defender. This isn't to say that Etienne isn't a great back, but he's not going to be the special player that Swift will in the NFL
I listened for 30 minutes to hear what y'all say about Calvin Throckmorton and all you say is his name then talk about a guy you graded behind him.
Film on Throckmorton shows him pushing defensive lineman back damn near to the safety level. He doesn't just block, he dominates every matchup.
Chuba Hubbard not even in the top 5 running backs?
Ian Hutchinson for real. China gets the ball a ton but still averages like 6 ypc
Ian Hutchinson He’s a Sophomore
Clelin Ferrell has been getting PFF 85+ ratings week after week and you couldn't get a 3 for him? He has the same # os sacks Kahlil Mack had as a rookie....would love to here your Kahlil Mack remarks Nov 2015
Lavert Hill
Lavert Hill round projection
I guess blocking doesn’t matter for TEs. You didn’t mention it as a strength for any of them
1st pick - OL
2nd pick - Fromm or Diggs
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Burrow verses Chase Young. Both good athletes and 1st rounders. More opportunity to make great plays at the quarterback position, less so at defensive end. This is a no-brainer folks. Burrow is the next generation of Tom Brady, faster, stronger, maybe even more accurate with a brain like a computer that can break things down. He's the best quarterback coming out of college I've ever seen since I've been alive.
You guys must've missed this past week Oregon vs Arizona State lol? Herbert was awful until the 4th Qtr which they still lost!
They must be east coast and dont stay up late to watch Pac 12 games. Herbert was garbage vs ASU. I really dont think this guy watched the game, because everything he said is wrong. "Hes been trending up, avoiding those bad games lately"? Oh really? He had a REALLY bad game 48 hours ago.
@Chandler Russell Aint my problem. Change the filming schedule. Otherwise you say stupid stuff like "hes playing great!" the day after he plays awful.
why are the rankings so different from the grades?
So here’s the thing - Etienne broke way more tackles than Swift yes. Etienne also played in a MUCH softer conference. These pff guys look a bit too much into their own stats and don’t apply enough context with it imo. Swift is far superior to Etienne imo. On film and on the stat sheet with what he provides as a receiver and how much more elusive he is going against SEC defenders. Don’t get confused - It’s Swift as the top dawg at rb and it’s not particularly close. I’d take Taylor and Dobbins over Etienne too.
Jacob Eason will never be an NFL starter. When the play breaks down, he panics. When this happens, sometimes he throws into double coverage, sometimes he starts running backwards. And it appears that de doesn't process information very quick. He has a live arm, some mobility, can throw guys open, but needs a clean pocket and a run game.
If Fromm is coming out this year and has a better grade why is Herbert ranked higher?????
Guess which best RB WILL NOT be in the 2020 draft? Chubba Hubbard from Oklahoma State.
Y'all are still overrating Tua Tagavailoa. He is way too injury prone, and players take harder hits in the NFL. Prospects like Jake Fromm and Justin Herbert are way better, and safer choices
DaddyLongHead If you think the NFL allows hard hits on QBs anymore you haven’t been paying attention
Lindon Horn facts
What happened to the QB for central florida that got injured last year.
I think it was a career ending injury
uhh you answered it, injured. Most likely career ending unfortunately, and UCF was never the same
‘We love receiving ability in a running back’
Clyde Edwards helaire- 1,000+ yard rusher and 300+ yards receiving, averaging 8 yds/catch....cmon man. And no dobbins in the top 5? Thats wild
I have no understanding how Etiene is not everyone’s top back. He averaged a score every 9.8 touches in his career coming into the season and the dude scores 90 yard tds every other week.
VSauce 4 and they play no defense in the Atlantic Cupcake Conference
Man an average qb is in no way equal to an elite edge rusher in the draft. there are average QBs every year on the waiver wire, but good luck picking up Aaron Donald or jj watt in free agency I guess. All these analyst are basically saying all u need is a qb which is false
Agreed. The 2018 draft class of qbs was a disaster except for Lamar (boderline Allen). Take the can't miss player since the qbs have been less than a coin toss.
Miami or Bengals, whoever picks #1 should pick Chase Young. It's not even debatable. Fitzmagic and Dalton are good enough to take you to post season play. Miami has so many picks they can get Young and a top rated qb. Bengals get Young and load up on OL. This draft class of qbs except for Burrows is not that great. Wait for 2021.
Mics are too close to the gray shirt dudes face. 👎🏻
MICHAEL PITTMAN
Hell yeah
will not matter if justin biebert beats utah he is big bust ,just ask coach sherman
I think u guys need to focus more on evaluating the talent around the players you guys are grading and their opposition. Yes some players have all the right measurements and stats, but the amount and lack of talent on their team along with the players on the other side of the field has a tremendous impact too. If you guys don’t do this, then you’re grading and opinions look biased and just down right favoritism. Overall solid stuff.
Miami is going to get a steal when they draft DE Chase Young at #2
Miami is definitely not drafting young
why can't MIA draft a QB and Young? They have 3 first round picks... admittedly I don't think they will be able to get Young, because they are almost certainly beating the Bengals and the Giants/Fins game will be matchup for the next spot, but lets say they end up with #2. I see their Steelers pick (currently #22) moving up a few spots, as I see the Steelers losing at least 3 of their next 5 (at best ending 8-8, but they could falter to a worse record). As for the Texans pick (#25) I also see them losing at least 2 games (10-6, though they could also falter). Which will likely put at least 1 other first round pick in the 8-14 range, and then their final 1st pick goes in the 16-22 range. That's more than enough to grab Young #2 overall, and grab your choice of the next QB's maybe excluding Tua, but maybe not, depending on how teams want to gamble with his injury, and if they need a QB to perform now, vs sitting a year.
Have your cake and eat it too Miami, that's what you get for going full rebuild mode (PS, a QB won't help your offence all that much with your terrible OL, maybe fix that, and not trade away a franchise tackle, huh?)
Giants have the 2nd pick right now. No way we pass on Chase Young.
@@TheCruzan26 idk you passed on josh allen last time
@Kevin R Not with their first of 3 1st round picks. Maybe, doubtful but maybe with Pitt's pick in the mid first round they take Tua if he is there still. Most likely Miami drafts DE/LT with their first pick, RB with their next pick and at the end of the first round either a DE or LT depending on whether they got Chase Young or Andrew Thomas with the top pick.
PFF is almost always wrong. Subjective rankings and grading system. Total bias. They never can account for players drive, heart, will, determination etc etc which is what helps makes players special.
Tua and Fromm will be busts. Lawrence should stay another year. Burrow is the most sure pick. Eason should be drafted as a 'future' QB, so maybe a team like the Chargers should pick him. If I am the Dolphins or Redskins(assuming Bengals are first and pick Burrow) I am trading back or taking the 'best available' player, not just the most valuable position. So if I am the Redskins at 2, I am taking Chase Young - same goes if I am the Dolphins at 2. Imo, pick 2 should pick Chase Young if Burrow goes first. Pick 3 should try to trade out of their spot. If it's the Dolphins, I say trade out for more picks.
Lawrence isn't eligible until 2021 bro
Who’s that generational long snapper? I wanna watch some film
That Heisman Trophy is blinding everyone & everyone will see very soon. And that Heisman Trophy is blinding the Cinninnati Bengals the most ; " Don't pass on " CHASE YOUNG" !! Arizona let that Heisman blind them the same last year ; I know they are still kicking "Themselves" for passing on NICK BOSA !!!!!!!
D'andre Swift is the hardest worker and most disciplined out of all backs. His father is disciplinarian to the core and has instilled an insane work ethic in D'Andre. Etienne is the fastest hands down, Jonathan Taylor reminds me of a little faster version of Fournette .J.K Dobbins and Cam Akers very similar talent level both have the ability to successfull in the pros. Keyshawn Vaughn is a great dark horse as well.
Jonathan Taylor is no Fournette. Fournette is very fast especially at 230 lbs. he’s a freak, modern day Herschel Walker(just in a bad situation). I do like Taylor tho. The jaguars offensive line has been a joke since he got there. Dandre Swift and Clyde Edwards-Helaire are the most complete running backs right now by far (Najee Harris is coming along but we’ll see) .. running , pass protection, route running/catching , speed/power combo. Swift isn’t being utilized properly at UGA . He fits more of the LSU type offense. Would love to see him on the Chiefs . Saints are the perfect fit but Kamara is already there so.. the eagles are an interesting fit for Swift but idk if they’ll use him right and Miles Sandes has potential.
@@JohnnyBravo02 Dolphins may draft swift with the 25th pick...I think quite a few of these backs could be special. Etienne has all the potential in the world but has to learn to use his vision and blockers better. Taylor has too many carries on his body for my liking. Swift is the closest to being worth the 1st round pick. Just has to stay healthy and be used in a heavy passing attack offense. He can be a workhorse. A better version of knowsean moreno.
Geoff L. I strongly believe that Swift is a Saquon Barkley type talent , just less powerful and more of a finesse runner but still powerful if that makes sense. Lol I actually believe in the dolphins coaching staff and know they will not waste Swift’s career. That staff just needs more talent to work with , which they will next season. I really thought Tua and Swift would’ve been an ELITE backfield but Tuas hip situation makes it a sticky situation. You won’t find many players with Swift’s talent AND work ethic/leadership combo. He’s no where near his ceiling. Most people don’t realize what he’s gonna be at the next level in the right scheme .
Geoff L. This is by far the deepest draft Iv ever seen at every position. Draft picks are never locks to be hits but this draft is FULL of players that will be success baring injuries and bad coaching. The dolphins would have to be idiots to mess this draft up with all their picks .
@@JohnnyBravo02 unfortunately with the Dolphins front office, I'm left with a believe it when I see it situation. I would like to have Chase Young to add to that defensive line though. Also grab Tua with the second pick and Swift with that 3rd first round pick. Lineman and corners I the 2nd round. Then next year we can go back to getting more offensive lineman and the team should be in a position for success. We'll have to hit on those 2nd round picks and maybe 1 to 2 of the later picks to really turn this this team around in the next 3 years though. Chase Young is the type of player the phins have been missing since Jason Taylor though, he's a prospect we just can't pass up on. Hope we get the 2nd overall pick bc that's the only way we snag him. His pass rush on the outside with Wilkins and Godchaux in the middle would be a welcome addition and help the 2nd and 3rd levels of the defense.
Jonathan Taylor at 4 wowowowow that’s rude
He 100% is but Jonathan Taylor should be at least #2
Sleepin on johnathan taylor gonna be this drafts nick chubb
fax
Justin Herbert at 14. Damn that’s cold
Should be 28 picked.
Etienne plays against crap competition. Swift plays SEC comp. Stats are overrated.
Jordan love a top 5. Tua completely healthy is number 1. Joe burrow will not be able to handle speed of NFL. You seen it last year when the sec had way better defenses. Monday will make burrow lose his chance to be 1.
These guys are stupid bro. The JK Dobbins jabs, talking about Etienne being better than Saquon at anything, get outta here.
No love for Anthony Gordon or Jordan Love?
Mark Jefferson How are you justifing 15 TD, 19 INT? He’s just another Tyree jackson, who can sling it, but has no touch. In Russia we call it ,, He throws it to NAHHHUIII!!!’’
@@kaarelkaarelson4509 🤣I did say Anthony Gordon first.
@Chandler Russell I love Falk! But he doesn't have the mocsy Gordon has. If you're smart; you'd run the system for him. You do that with any QB, Cater to their strengths.
@@kaarelkaarelson4509 love can make some amazing throws with touch
His problem is processor and reads
Giants should take C. Young, trade back up in first round for K. Murray, use 7th rnd pick n defensive player Janoris Jenkins for 2rnd pick, 3rd rnd Safety
Can Akers has no O-line
Chuba Hubbard is the best rb
Really interesting take on Travis. I love ir
Give me Devonta Smith Over everybody on this list except Jeudy Or Lamb ... 🤷🏽♂️ he will be the steal of the draft , mark my words
Agreed he’s so good
Totally agree, he is worth a second-rounder. Pro comparison - Juju Smith
Joel he will be better that juju because he’s faster & he’s just good as a route runner , hope my giants get him early 2nd round with our 35th pick
Lol he'd be number 2 after Lamb! Then Ruggs,Shinalt,Then Judy
Mark Jefferson Jeudy is hands down the best receiver lol your tripping
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The Bengals better take Young. Last year there was an argument to take Bosa over Murray. Murray was a better quarterback than Burrow and Young is better than Bosa. Also, the Bengals will not be much better next year with Burrow or with Young, but the following year you can get Lawrence or Fields. I would much rather have two transformational players, 1 at qb and 1 at DE than a good quarterback and no one next year near as good as Young.
No Trey Smith y'all are nuts
Tank for Sewell! 2021
-Miami Dolphins
Dobbins is the second maybe even first best back in this class
Mason Bodi I don't see him being better than Jonathan Taylor. I'm not particularly high on Dobbins though. He just doesn't have any real wiggle to him, but obviously I might be wrong. It's gonna be fun a year or two from now to look back and see.
Also - I agree you have to take positional value into consideration, but to say "I had Saquon Barkley in the 30s" shows how flawed your system is. Guys like Saquon, Kamara and Mcaffery are 90% of their teams offense. Is that not enough value for you? Some players transcend their position, and become the centerpoint of the entire team.
Brodha Sattva It’s about value over replacement. Giants and saquon are looking terrible rn because of their poor drafting
@@laynebrock Overall yes, but Saquon was the best pick they couldve possibly made. Hes the center of their entire offense. Who should they have taken instead of Barkley? Theres nobody whos more valuable than him, to them now.
Brodha Sattva They could’ve went many different ways with their number 2 pick that would’ve added more value than saquon did...Lamar Jackson, Sam Darnold, Bradley chubb, Quinton Nelson, Minkah Fitzpatrick, Derwin James, Jaire Alexander. They could’ve went Quinton Nelson and gotten Nick Chubb in the second round and that would’ve been better their original first 2 rounds of saquon and Hernandez.
@@brodhax6148 using hindsight Lamar Jackson would've been a better pick but nobody would use a top 2 pick on him. Hindsight is always 20/20
@@laynebrock This is nothing but hindsight. Should they have also drafted Tom Brady? Cmon man. Knowing what you know at the time, they made good picks.
Herbert looked like 🚮 Saturday night
draft bust
Agreed. I was high on him as a Phins fan thinking he may be our man. After that ASU debacle, his stock sank to real late first round.
@@davidhall2197 I'm a phins fan as well and honestly after what I saw my thought process is if we can't get burrow go after a late round qb and get chase young
David Hall as a fellow Phins fan I have never liked him as a pick...do we just want to suffer with another Tannehill for 7 years??
I knew he was cooked once Bow Nix out dueled him week one vs Auburn. How can you be a top ten pick and get out played by a true freshman. He’s a specimen but doesn’t have the sack to play QB at a high level in the NFL.
I just don't see it with Jacob Eason? I can name 2 quarterbacks that's better than him that's coming out in this year's draft. Anthony Gordon Jamie Newman
Has this guy not watched Dobbins 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I keep hearing ppl bring up Swift like he's been better than Dobbins, Taylor, or Etienne all year...smh
Dobbins is mercking defenses right now lol
the amount of mis-pronunciations is nuts
Edwards helaire is the product of that offense
These guy rated players base on their performance week to week not their ability and the team they on
How is Jonathan Taylor not the #1 RB? Wow
badgerryan 15 agreed he is a beast and carries Wisconsin
Because the yards he had against Ohio state
Pff please make a madden draft class
There is a PFF draft class
Use TFG’s very similiar
Justin Herbert is over rated as hell he threw back to back interceptions against asu, the score was close but the whole game was a cake walk for asu
Not all their saying is true look at when Derek Carr was drafted at his draft class he was drafted in the 2nd round and all the 1st rounders QB from that draft were busts or had short careers
@@bringthenoyz they don't mention cos alot of time PFF is full of s**t look at what they are saying about Clelin Ferrell but they don't talk about the fact he has played all over the defensive line and some linebacker to help stop the run. They also don't mention that Maxx Crosby has almost the same sacks as Nick Bosa and more than Khalil Mack with far less snaps RN4L
@@WaywardAussieRaider there is a reason he has less snaps like c'mon man
Teams with the #1 pick never have a great QB.
Raider fan I'll say this qb is number 1 y don't got that it doesn't matter what els u got
The disrespect for JK Dobbins
Defense!!!!!!!!
Where is Najee Harris in your top 5?
Mark Jefferson he doesn’t have the prototypical RB build/speed and he’s just now popping off. If he played all season like he has recently he’d be up there
@@laynebrock That's because he wasn't used that way! That's no fault of his. Lol I didn't know dude could make back shoulder catches and stuff
Mark Jefferson yeah they’ve been hiding him most of his career he was the number 1 recruit in the nation coming out because he was elite in every facet. He played receiver at 7 on 7s and was mossing people. Dudes a stud and hopefully returns next year
@@laynebrock naw,Miami need him right now lol
Fromm is average. 3rd round at best but someone will take him in late first early second. I like Jordan Love much better.
Jordan love is a one read quarterback I'd rather take the proven prospect
De’Andre Swift is the best player in this draft
Who digs the guys flannel tho ?
Very big fan of the flannel
I'm not buying into how burrow I'm a bangles fan and I want chase young and then you drafted a qb in round 2
These 2 talk too much get on with it
I would love to see the Raiders add Etienne to go with Jacobs.