Great for the school that can barely afford instruments but can afford to buy a wide range of replacement parts for them and the labor costs of people modifying them.
No. Wrong configuration helps no one. The whole point of education is so you can be able to take the information and move forward with it. If you're teaching youngsters the wrong way , they have to relearn when they get older and another program. Normal tenor drum setup is made for the range of motion for the average human body. That set up not too much.
In my experience with Trixon drums, they de-tune really fast. My theory's that the wood they use fluctuates with hot temperatures more than other brands, so the heads don't stay tight. Or maybe something's up with the lugs. They make ok practice drums, but maintaining a line of them would be exhausting.
These are not timpani, so temperature and humidity are of little concerned, as tenor drums are not pitched instruments. One solution would be getting some left handed knurled nuts on the same thread size as the lug bolts and put them in the lug bolts. And you have your own tuner locks for a fraction of the price.
I remember going into the 8th grade and we had to build our entire drumline setup apart from 4 snares that were already assembled. We had a new band director who wanted us to march to get experience for next year. We had Premier drums and it was so fun learning how they all worked.
Yeah I mean it just proves that anything can sound good if it has the right heads, tuned properly, and someone who know what they're doing is behind it.
I was actually surprised at trixons performance. I am interested to know how they would hold up over time especially in like a middle school or elementary school line. I haven't known middle or elementary school drummers to be easy on equipment. My old middle school used and still uses Yamahas that are ball park 20+ years old. At times, do to changes out of the director's control, those drums haven't always had the best storage conditions and maintenance records. Surprisingly, the drums still look and sound pretty good.
This was my question as well. Public schools will often use drums for literally decades; at my last school, my students were using 10-year-old Yamahas, but we also had a set of 25-year-old Pearls which were used for pep band. I suspect the Trixon drums would not last for decades.
Thanks EMC, we just got our son a used Method Blue Tenor from the Blue Devil’s and it was nice to see the comparison and review. We had looked at the cheap and new sets, but found a great deal on an awesome set with a bit of wear. I doubt these cheap sets will hold up to prolonged teenager abuse and time... Thanks for sharing!!!
I have a set, they actually sound pretty dang good but aren't super durable (typically the case with stock heads of any drums) they might be single-ply but they'll hold up until you can get some nicer heads
Eric I want you to know you’re not alone in the Xymox Situation. My parents ordered a tenor matching pad for my 16th birthday and I got it after marching season when I was freaking 17. Over a year for it 🤦🏻♂️
Yeah....I’m going on a year for my order.... Covid though...but I’ve heard timin* nightmares before all that. BUT.... I’ve been trying to cancel my order and they have ignored me....not happy abou5 that @xymox 😡
I read somewhere that Christopher Columbus once ordered a set and got fed-up waiting... When he decided to pick 'em up himself he discovered new uncharted territories!!
Trixon's marching drums are really good imo, I have a set and they're not bad they're just weirdly positioned, though I got the ones that are like actual tenors.
I remember years ago at PASIC a company was displaying their "quads." They were a bit put out that everyone (that I observed, at least) shook their head at their wonky carrier and drum geometry. (I cannot find who the company was - they were rim and head only-ish drums with a single point tuning system for each head that squeezed the head via a horizontally hinged rim.)
I’m not AT ALL a drum line guy, but play drums, and my completely unbiased opinion is that those Trixon drums do sound pretty darn good! It helps to have a qualified demonstrator demonstrating them though. I’m always impressed by the skills shown by you marching/drum line guys. Definitely above my average rock/fusion skill set!
I think the next test for the trixon tenors would be to keep them tuned up and play daily for a while to see what happens to the shells and the casings. Can they hold up or will they collapse. And for those of you who are younger, I was around when all the drum companies had to make changes. We would see casings shear off in the middle of practice or pull the screws through the shells and let’s not forget the exploding tension rods that would snap and go flying up and hit the ceiling. That’s why they had to go to 6mm tension rods. Just my thoughts
That is my question as well, i have a Middle School line with smaller kids. The System Blue drums are pretty light but expensive. We aren't a competitive band so those tenors sound is great. What about construction? do they seem durable? If NAMM ever comes back to life that will be one of my stops to investigate. thanks for this video!
Great content as usual. Informative/Educational but also funny. I play drum myself and getting into rudimental drumming and your videos are inspiring! Thank you.
I find that someone who has put lots of practice and passion into developing their skill can make any instrument sound great. I was a drummer in my younger day, but was never all that great. Oh man tho, was it fun. Hearing a drum line just takes me back. So many good memories. Great video, I appreciate your skill set for sure!
I ordered a tenor pad back a few years ago and customer service/shipping was still terrible. Just gotta threaten to do something about it if they don’t ship it. My pad took about a year and a half to get here due to being “lost” but after enough angry emails they finally sent it along with some free stuff
For $149 plus whatever you paid for the heads, that is SURPRISINGLY good sound quality. I would definitely buy that, even for high school level. Imagine how much money you save by buying these instead of Yamaha's. And most high schools honestly don't need the crazy hq drums at the level that they are anyways
As a trombone player with 0 percussion experience looking to learn the tenor drums, these really don't seem all that bad. I just want a cheap set I can learn to play on. This is pretty much what I was looking for.
my band director has trixon drums for every type of drum bc my school is a privateschool and my highschool band sucks so thats why i do dca so i can be good
The only thing about the “backwards tenors” (not the ones in a line), you can set them up in the correct order because Trixon has a wacky setup experience
En mi escuela compraron la bass line de esa marca y puedo decir que la calidad del instrumento y en cuanto a sonido suenan exelente y muy fuerte, muy recomendable si no quieres gastar mucho dinero🥁
I ordered a drum pad from xymox 16 months ago, and I have been emailing them every week and they haven't responded yet. Sooooooo, good luck on those rims.
20 years later & XYMOX still has manufacturing issues... that's insane. How do they survive? I had the EXACT SAME PROBLEM trying to practice with no school tenors for Corps... & they just were like,,, ooops... well you didn't actually need them to practice BEFORE you went on tour did you... "whymox"
But how's the durability? Is it going to crack a lug under high tension? Is the wood hard enough to handle higher tensions without warping? Will a lug screw decide it wants to fall out?
I personally own a set of trixon quads and I’m a tuba player and don’t much about drums but I play drum set and things like that on the side but I think trixon has some decent quality drums for beginners and the stock heads don’t sound that bad once you tune them
Yeah lol I ordered a Tenor 101 pad and it came 9 months later and I ended up selling it almost immediately. It was so poorly made. I also ordered tenor sticks that just NEVER came, and that was July 2019
Yeah I ended up just getting an Offworld Invader V3, and so far I have no complaints. I'm just testing to see how long it will take before they finally ship it to us lmao
The Pearl Dr. Frankenstein carrier mod is outstanding. 1st Foul ! A. Crank them up with the original Trixton heads and test. B. What type of heads did you put on the Trixies?
I am 4 months away from it being 2 years since I ordered my xymox pad and still nothing. gotta love that they also don't reply to any messages emails or calls
Trixon drums aren't as bad as I originally thought. I have a sixlet tenor (The last one in black 2:18 ) and although they are heavily out of tune, they are very light weight, playable, and don't need assembled (Carrier needs assembled though).
@@live2ride18 I also don’t have tenors at home so I’d have to go in after school to play around with crap and I don’t have time for that cuz of my sports
@@seanlloyd8136 I guess theirs levels to this after all. I was captain, tenors came natural. I could sight read or watch about three times and play it back. I didn’t have tenors at home either. 50th regiment Colquitt county high school. We did indoor drumline also. I’d teach you butttt I’m paralyzed now. 😂 Watch it in slow mo. Block out everything, play it on your bed. That’s what I used to do. You’ll build massive arm strength. He ain’t giving you sheet music lol.
Atlanta Drum Academy uses the Trixon Quads with a Pearl Harness. Now the questions stands how does their 13x11 Marching snare (Trixons) compare to the USMC's Pearl snares. Do that video next.Òr come to AZ and play my heavy ass Premier Marching Snare. -Cynthia "Wheelchair Snare Drummer"
I ordered the wrong drums once but I was able to get drums 1 and 2 swapped around and had to use a bit of drilling to swap 3 and 4 but they are great drums if money is tight and they sound good too, eventually I’m gonna sell my current set and then order the proper ones next time lol
NEW PROPOSAL:
I will make the gong hi-hat as soon as my xymox rims come in.
Welp guess we're never getting it now! Lol
Good one!!!! A perfect response!!! 😁
Heh heh...ooof
Man if you get yours b4 me imma be a lil upset. 1 year 3 months from October 2019 and still waiting but mine was just the custom tenor pad.
no. Now
These are nice for schools that want a drumline but can barely afford a few instruments. They definitely have their place.
Not that configuration though
Percussion sound labs or whatever it's called is abit better for similiar prices
Great for the school that can barely afford instruments but can afford to buy a wide range of replacement parts for them and the labor costs of people modifying them.
No. Wrong configuration helps no one. The whole point of education is so you can be able to take the information and move forward with it. If you're teaching youngsters the wrong way , they have to relearn when they get older and another program. Normal tenor drum setup is made for the range of motion for the average human body. That set up not too much.
@@richbrass12 They sell other models that are normal. That’s what I was referring too.
Not gonna lie, those would be kinda dope on a drum set. Just a like a big ridiculous line of high toms 70s style
That was my first thought. Cannibalize then and turn them into concert toms. Like, what's the cheapest one can out together a Neil Peart drumset for?
In my experience with Trixon drums, they de-tune really fast. My theory's that the wood they use fluctuates with hot temperatures more than other brands, so the heads don't stay tight. Or maybe something's up with the lugs. They make ok practice drums, but maintaining a line of them would be exhausting.
These are not timpani, so temperature and humidity are of little concerned, as tenor drums are not pitched instruments. One solution would be getting some left handed knurled nuts on the same thread size as the lug bolts and put them in the lug bolts. And you have your own tuner locks for a fraction of the price.
I think if you tune a line of them w stock heads they will be fine until you can get new heads. They don’t even sound half bad.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino not really that true lmao tenors heads get out of tune easily with temp changes
What I’ve noticed is that the shells tend to bend when tuned
@@soggybread5406 if you use wood drums and hide heads. Not that big of an issue with decent quality fiberglass shells and synthetic heads.
I remember going into the 8th grade and we had to build our entire drumline setup apart from 4 snares that were already assembled. We had a new band director who wanted us to march to get experience for next year.
We had Premier drums and it was so fun learning how they all worked.
I’ve been wanting a big channel to look at these for a while. Here we go.
Yeah I mean it just proves that anything can sound good if it has the right heads, tuned properly, and someone who know what they're doing is behind it.
Same man. For people who want something to play on but don't have money to blow on some yamahas, this content is perfect!
Day 20 of commenting till emc makes a gong hi-hat
I shall support that
Day 20 of saying I know you to Frz Akus
@@haydenreidling559 do i know you though
@@CoolKoKillzzz I believe so
Thanks for the drumsticks
He’s working on it.
6:40 i can't believe how good they sounded once you tuned them up. Great video! I love this type of content.
That package joke is never getting old
nor is the xymox joke.
@@misteralt3117 nah, it’ll get funny when the xymox rims come in. oh wait, we’re agreeing
they aren’t too bad actually 😅
get out
@@katielove4503 toxic for no reason
With new heads they're definitely worth their price. Not too far off from the Yamaha's for a tenth of the price
I was actually surprised at trixons performance. I am interested to know how they would hold up over time especially in like a middle school or elementary school line. I haven't known middle or elementary school drummers to be easy on equipment. My old middle school used and still uses Yamahas that are ball park 20+ years old. At times, do to changes out of the director's control, those drums haven't always had the best storage conditions and maintenance records. Surprisingly, the drums still look and sound pretty good.
This was my question as well. Public schools will often use drums for literally decades; at my last school, my students were using 10-year-old Yamahas, but we also had a set of 25-year-old Pearls which were used for pep band. I suspect the Trixon drums would not last for decades.
Drummer's, notorious for maintaining their equipment.
Saw these “tenors” a while back and have been waiting for someone to make a video about them. Nice vid man!!
Eating?
The licks sound magical with the echo
gotta love that reverb
Especially 10:07
I get mad Cavies 2000 vibes from the shallow cut of the Trixon drums.
"professional, unsponsored opinion" ... that's rare these days. :D
Allways fun to watch your content!
I thought you were doing the Phil Collins in the air tonight fill when you first played those drums. I was sad when you didn’t finish it.
Thanks EMC, we just got our son a used Method Blue Tenor from the Blue Devil’s and it was nice to see the comparison and review. We had looked at the cheap and new sets, but found a great deal on an awesome set with a bit of wear. I doubt these cheap sets will hold up to prolonged teenager abuse and time... Thanks for sharing!!!
You didn't even try tuning up the stock heads to hear what they sound like tuned up? Why Not?
I have a set, they actually sound pretty dang good but aren't super durable (typically the case with stock heads of any drums) they might be single-ply but they'll hold up until you can get some nicer heads
Eric I want you to know you’re not alone in the Xymox Situation. My parents ordered a tenor matching pad for my 16th birthday and I got it after marching season when I was freaking 17. Over a year for it 🤦🏻♂️
Yeah....I’m going on a year for my order.... Covid though...but I’ve heard timin* nightmares before all that. BUT.... I’ve been trying to cancel my order and they have ignored me....not happy abou5 that @xymox 😡
@@BEElaine1008 If you paid with a credit card charge back.
I read somewhere that Christopher Columbus once ordered a set and got fed-up waiting... When he decided to pick 'em up himself he discovered new uncharted territories!!
@@G60syncro 😂😂😂
I’ve always wanted to see someone review these professionally thank you Eric!!
I'm really impressed you were able to tune those. Usually, cheap drums are impossible to tune or have no range
Trixon's marching drums are really good imo, I have a set and they're not bad they're just weirdly positioned, though I got the ones that are like actual tenors.
I ordered 3 pads from xymox two years ago, still waiting, so stand in line! 😂
Damn demand must be up. I ordered 2 tenor pads from a BOGO they did nearly a decade ago now I think and they only took 9 months! Only!!
@@itz_premium no they are a scam company now.
Still waiting
I remember years ago at PASIC a company was displaying their "quads." They were a bit put out that everyone (that I observed, at least) shook their head at their wonky carrier and drum geometry. (I cannot find who the company was - they were rim and head only-ish drums with a single point tuning system for each head that squeezed the head via a horizontally hinged rim.)
I’m not AT ALL a drum line guy, but play drums, and my completely unbiased opinion is that those Trixon drums do sound pretty darn good! It helps to have a qualified demonstrator demonstrating them though. I’m always impressed by the skills shown by you marching/drum line guys. Definitely above my average rock/fusion skill set!
I bought the 6 pack white field series. For something to noodle on, and record drumline cadences with, they're great.
I have those same ones, the tension rod that holds the low spock onto the back bar is stripped or something but yeah they’re crazy good for the price
Middle school marching bands are heavily underestimated 😂
I think the next test for the trixon tenors would be to keep them tuned up and play daily for a while to see what happens to the shells and the casings. Can they hold up or will they collapse. And for those of you who are younger, I was around when all the drum companies had to make changes. We would see casings shear off in the middle of practice or pull the screws through the shells and let’s not forget the exploding tension rods that would snap and go flying up and hit the ceiling. That’s why they had to go to 6mm tension rods. Just my thoughts
That is my question as well, i have a Middle School line with smaller kids. The System Blue drums are pretty light but expensive. We aren't a competitive band so those tenors sound is great. What about construction? do they seem durable? If NAMM ever comes back to life that will be one of my stops to investigate. thanks for this video!
Dude you are so good. I wish my hands were 20% what yours are!
Even as a brass guy, I was like WTF when I saw that 5 drum layout!
It’s funny that both of em were directors for my marching band 😂
Honestly a lot better than I expected. Good sound for that cheap
I’m suprised the Trixon maintained a tune and actually projected that far
Now review the sound percussion labs high tension snare. It's the only logical outcome
This is a certified bruh moment
Bruh
Great content as usual. Informative/Educational but also funny. I play drum myself and getting into rudimental drumming and your videos are inspiring! Thank you.
EMC w/ Tony G just works rly well. love your stuff man!
I find that someone who has put lots of practice and passion into developing their skill can make any instrument sound great. I was a drummer in my younger day, but was never all that great. Oh man tho, was it fun. Hearing a drum line just takes me back. So many good memories. Great video, I appreciate your skill set for sure!
Day 1 of also asking EMC to make a Gong Hi-Hat
3:43 I can feel it in the air tonight.
THE ECHO FROM THE DRUMS SOUNDS COOL
i ordered a xymox snare pad July of 2019.... still haven't got it
If you used PayPal you can dispute it. I got my money back yesterday and the dispute took about a month to finish.
I ordered mine March 2019... still no of or free table pad :(
yeah i ordered one in august 2019 and still nothing
Same here, ordered the tenor pad July 2019-nothing. Been back and forth with them with no results-they keep blaming it on Covid.
I ordered a tenor pad back a few years ago and customer service/shipping was still terrible. Just gotta threaten to do something about it if they don’t ship it. My pad took about a year and a half to get here due to being “lost” but after enough angry emails they finally sent it along with some free stuff
Finally a decent tenor drum that actually look good... Got to cop.... Thanks dude!
Bro did he actually highlight my post... it’s happened many times but this is amazing
The xymox joke opened some healed over wounds for a lot of people, I'm dead.
How long does it take to ship the drums because im trying to get a pair of tenors for Christmas and I just want to know how long it takes
For $149 plus whatever you paid for the heads, that is SURPRISINGLY good sound quality. I would definitely buy that, even for high school level. Imagine how much money you save by buying these instead of Yamaha's. And most high schools honestly don't need the crazy hq drums at the level that they are anyways
Dude I had such low expectations
But the fact that they could handle the higher tunings alone blew my mind
You should make your own drum line group you look like you could be the best teacher
i ordered some tenor practice pads last Christmas and they still haven't arrived, its been over a year
As a trombone player with 0 percussion experience looking to learn the tenor drums, these really don't seem all that bad. I just want a cheap set I can learn to play on. This is pretty much what I was looking for.
Did anyone notice at 1:10 that the "normal" quads have the 3 and 4 drums swapped?
The logo is the same one they used on their drumkits in the 60s. Great drums made in Germany. I guess a Chinese company bought the name
my band director has trixon drums for every type of drum bc my school is a privateschool and my highschool band sucks so thats why i do dca so i can be good
Continue the calab...you two are a riot! Nice job.
How much was the shipping and how long did it take to get to ur house
When the wind was blowing towards the camera...the Trixon drums sounded pretty good.
You should review their $150 14” x 5.5” Marching snare, I’ve never heard of these, but now I’m really curious
The only thing about the “backwards tenors” (not the ones in a line), you can set them up in the correct order because Trixon has a wacky setup experience
Do sound percussion labs next! I want to see how their quads are
trixon and sound percussion labs are almost carbon copies. they both use the same birch shells between the brands. results will be extremely similar
You just reminded me that I ordered a pad in April................2019. Let's pray for everyone here.
I have a set of trixon drums (the correct ones) and they are really nice
I can't stop watching this!
En mi escuela compraron la bass line de esa marca y puedo decir que la calidad del instrumento y en cuanto a sonido suenan exelente y muy fuerte, muy recomendable si no quieres gastar mucho dinero🥁
The first Q-5 line for BD 1978 all the drums were in line highest to lowest. and they had resonant heads
Early that package will never come In u should of order the the pads when u were 7 years old
I order one in 2015, still waiting
@@buslengths wtf
still waiting? Lol 😂
I ordered a drum pad from xymox 16 months ago, and I have been emailing them every week and they haven't responded yet. Sooooooo, good luck on those rims.
Heads make the difference on all drums. Interesting video
9:33 thats literally in my school's 2021 2nd place state finals 86.5 run as a quad break at the end
I wish that will have atleast a sponsor to give us instrument like that. im a fan of yours
20 years later & XYMOX still has manufacturing issues... that's insane. How do they survive? I had the EXACT SAME PROBLEM trying to practice with no school tenors for Corps... & they just were like,,, ooops... well you didn't actually need them to practice BEFORE you went on tour did you... "whymox"
WATCHING YOU PLAY IS SO SATISFYING AND SMOOTH
Day 2 of asking EMC to make a gong hat or a gongespiel (glocknspiel made of gongs)
Early 80s Blue Devils. Paradox 1983 and Karn Evil 9 in 84 i think.
But how's the durability? Is it going to crack a lug under high tension? Is the wood hard enough to handle higher tensions without warping? Will a lug screw decide it wants to fall out?
Wow that’s really cool, I might want to get some drums now, because they’re cool. I’m a trumpet player and have very little percussion experience.
When a drum company is faster than a pad company - someone needs a wake up call.
Forgot to mention when drums are cheaper than the practice pad for the same instrument
@@jonahg6654 a very valid point
I ordered a xymox pad 2 years ago and I am still awaiting its delivery
Hey emc production I have a few personal question for myself and you do you think you can help me ? What is the best way to connect you
You should review the sound percussion labs tenors. I would love to see a battle of the lowest price tenors
For the price, those are 100% worth the money if you’re willing to do the work to make them look and sound right
I personally own a set of trixon quads and I’m a tuba player and don’t much about drums but I play drum set and things like that on the side but I think trixon has some decent quality drums for beginners and the stock heads don’t sound that bad once you tune them
I have an Alesis Command X Mesh at home for practicing quints. I just substitute a cymbals pad for the smallest drum.
Whwn you guys fixed them up to what a normal level, ngl, they sounds pretty damn good for $150
I ordered a Xymox reserve pad back in December 2019, still not here lol
It’s the anti practice pad, practice pad company!
I just got my money back yesterday lmao. If you used PayPal ypu can dispute it and say they didn't ship it and get ur money back
Yeah lol I ordered a Tenor 101 pad and it came 9 months later and I ended up selling it almost immediately. It was so poorly made. I also ordered tenor sticks that just NEVER came, and that was July 2019
Yeah I ended up just getting an Offworld Invader V3, and so far I have no complaints. I'm just testing to see how long it will take before they finally ship it to us lmao
Try June of 2019
Can you do sound percussion labs next?
The Pearl Dr. Frankenstein carrier mod is outstanding.
1st Foul !
A. Crank them up with the original Trixton heads and test.
B. What type of heads did you put on the Trixies?
He used Remo Pinstripes
I am 4 months away from it being 2 years since I ordered my xymox pad and still nothing. gotta love that they also don't reply to any messages emails or calls
I just realized that Tony is kinda not looking at the camera in the "GOOD MORNING"
lol
Thanks for doing this! Very informative, especially for practice as you said!
Trixon drums aren't as bad as I originally thought. I have a sixlet tenor (The last one in black 2:18 ) and although they are heavily out of tune, they are very light weight, playable, and don't need assembled (Carrier needs assembled though).
They sound pretty good. But they look weird with only 2 badges. Take the 2 off?
Don’t worry bro. It took my xymox like a year and a month to come in. You still go time 💀😂😂
How about hardware and shell quality and durability? That matters the most I would think.
Can you teach me how to play that little section at 4:01 it’s friggin dope
No offense, but you can’t just watch that and play it back? Or slow down the video.
@@live2ride18 nah dawg, it’s ten times easier if i can just glance at some music
@@live2ride18 I also don’t have tenors at home so I’d have to go in after school to play around with crap and I don’t have time for that cuz of my sports
@@seanlloyd8136 I guess theirs levels to this after all. I was captain, tenors came natural. I could sight read or watch about three times and play it back. I didn’t have tenors at home either. 50th regiment Colquitt county high school. We did indoor drumline also. I’d teach you butttt I’m paralyzed now. 😂 Watch it in slow mo. Block out everything, play it on your bed. That’s what I used to do. You’ll build massive arm strength. He ain’t giving you sheet music lol.
@@live2ride18 bro you’re paralyzed?! What happened
I have been waiting a year basically for my snare pad from xymox
Hey @EMCproductions I was wondering what heads you used to replace the Trixon ones because I am gonna buy a set.
Might come in handy for tribal beats in a band next to the drum kit.
Hold on can we just take a minute to appreciate Eric's Christmas sweater though...
When I was in high school I played on those exact red tenors…I did not realize they were 1500 dollars…lol
Atlanta Drum Academy uses the Trixon Quads with a Pearl Harness. Now the questions stands how does their 13x11 Marching snare (Trixons) compare to the USMC's Pearl snares. Do that video next.Òr come to AZ and play my heavy ass Premier Marching Snare. -Cynthia "Wheelchair Snare Drummer"
I ordered the wrong drums once but I was able to get drums 1 and 2 swapped around and had to use a bit of drilling to swap 3 and 4 but they are great drums if money is tight and they sound good too, eventually I’m gonna sell my current set and then order the proper ones next time lol