MTG Has Lost Its Mind - Modern Horizons 3 Is BROKEN

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  • @TheMagicHistorian
    @TheMagicHistorian  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thanks for stopping by my friends, I am livestreaming on my other channel today - th-cam.com/users/MikeHatcher
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    • @Doombl4de
      @Doombl4de 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice job putting the code in the description XD

  • @Jesse_The_Enchanter
    @Jesse_The_Enchanter 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +113

    Taking a hiatus from magic isn’t such a bad idea after all

    • @fiarusgaming3420
      @fiarusgaming3420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Yep, my partner and I are already doing that. I'm considering selling my collection because I think power creep might make my old cards useless in a few years.

    • @Gimlock221
      @Gimlock221 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      same

    • @RisottoNero-z1w
      @RisottoNero-z1w 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Count me in

    • @yubeluchiha
      @yubeluchiha 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Honestly when you have all your decks completed and you are winning at your games. I agree I see no point in buying new mtg projects unless you just want to flex on your in your group

    • @robertadams305
      @robertadams305 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BusinessSkrub "at the store"? Bro, Arena is barely bearable. In person is a hard No.

  • @claytoncarrollq5695
    @claytoncarrollq5695 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. “Our quarterly earnings are down we need a distraction!”….Wotc staff: “Let’s do what we always do and leak a set and they’ll absolutely believe it was a random person and def not us!”

    • @TheSickjits
      @TheSickjits 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      yeah i'm not buying any of this shit anymore. Every set has an insane amount of "leaks"

    • @AbystomaMexicanium
      @AbystomaMexicanium 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah this did not use to happen so much.

  • @yellow_jacket3260
    @yellow_jacket3260 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Magic has lost it's mind years ago, this is just Powercreep Hell at this point

    • @Izlr88
      @Izlr88 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Wotc's approach to Magic nowadays is double everything and make it free to cast!

    • @TabooX1984
      @TabooX1984 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lookin more like Powerstomp
      XD

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You know how a lot of cardgame channels on this platform are crossing over now, comparing each other's games? I'm sure at some point, they'll start playing "oppression olympics" over the power creep garbage they all seem to be suffering.

    • @Aaron-l3l6g
      @Aaron-l3l6g 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can thank Commander for it.

    • @kristiandahl1310
      @kristiandahl1310 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Izlr88 double...? we're hitting the tripple everything territory now.

  • @slimynaut
    @slimynaut 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Nobody is even surprised at this point. Cranking up the powerlevel to 11 forces people to buy unless they just want to lose all their matches.

    • @Flyboyminer
      @Flyboyminer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They wanted to compete with pay to play video games. Now they will lose their players.

  • @smack80
    @smack80 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    "Thief of Existence targeting The One Ring" is gonna get said a lot

    • @brendans1983
      @brendans1983 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      '4 or less' raised my eyebrow too

  • @skyhigh388
    @skyhigh388 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Why is it that all new magic cards seem to have a full novel in their text box? What a freaking joke MTG has become. Volatile Stormdrake is a mess of a card.

    • @nichan008
      @nichan008 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      MTG is now yugioh

    • @RoninRose541
      @RoninRose541 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It’s slowly becoming Yugioh and I honestly hate it

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@RoninRose541Hasn't yet gotten to Endymion levels, but with the likes of stickers and "the Ring"...it's getting there. Gods help us if we ever get planeswalker or battle tokens.

    • @nightelfuser
      @nightelfuser 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is how you can tell the design team has exhausted all of their ideas. Their strategy for new cards is to mesh a ton of previous mechanics together and call it a new card.

    • @MrMartinSchou
      @MrMartinSchou 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because Wizards have painted themselves into a corner. Every set needs to push the power level in every way, because otherwise the cards in the set are irrelevant and won't sell.
      Look what happens when they try to dial down the power level. You end up with sets like Fallen Empires and Homelands, which despite being almost 20 years old (November 1994 and October 1995) are cheap as hell (€550 and €480 for a sealed booster box). Compare that to Alliances, which released just after Homelands, where a sealed booster box is €1,400. Why? Because Alliances have cards that are still staples today, while Fallen Empires and Homelands have nothing.
      The only cards that people want to play with are cards that are more powerful than existing cards. And there are only so many ways you can do that before you need to add text to the cards. And once you're there, you need to add more text to make newer cards more powerful.
      E.g. Savannah Lions are 2/1 for W. That was a great creature back in the day. Today you get a 1/2 first strike, haste, prowess for R in Monastery Swiftspear. How do you out power that? 2/2? 2/3? Double Strike instead of first strike?
      How do you make a card that can replace Sheoldred, the Apocalypse? It needs to be 4 mana, it needs to be better at unbalancing the game, it needs to be better at punishing your opponent for simply playing the game and needs to reward you simply for playing the game. And it needs to do it with The One Ring in the meta. Power/toughness increase doesn't matter, because Sheoldred is very rarely there to be an attacker. You could make it cheaper, either 3B or 1BB. Or you can add more text to make it better. Give it hexproof and/or first strike. Allow you to plot it for 1BB.
      We're in a situation where there are likely cards on the ban-list for various formats that are weaker than cards that are not on the ban-list.

  • @atraustoller
    @atraustoller 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The Aura is gunna get you your first Tarmagoyf for 5 mana (6 if you count the land you have to tap for the effect) which is essentially 3x the cost of the actual card. it will take several activations to actually break even mana wise. I feel like its not too over powered.

    • @naruyashan
      @naruyashan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The fact that it has a mana value of 2 (and contributes to devotion) is actually significant for a few things, though.

    • @judaspriestchild
      @judaspriestchild 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes it looks like they are deparatley trying to make goyfs a thing in commander 😂

    • @naruyashan
      @naruyashan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@judaspriestchild Agreed.

    • @dejinn7765
      @dejinn7765 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. If you have this in your opening hand, you have to tap out on turn 2 or 3, and do absolutely nothing else that turn. Then next turn (turn 3 or 4) you can start to make 1 Gofy each turn, by using 3 of your mana each turn. You've now tapped out twice to have one gofy.
      That doesn't sound very good (let alone broken) in 1v1 competitive. Maybe it could make good sideboard tech in grindy+slow matchups. Or maybe a couple can find a home in a Stax style deck. But specific situations like those is all I see it being potentially playable in. If even

  • @darthkoo5000
    @darthkoo5000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    The Lhurgoyf aura card is from the commander decks only

    • @theaeskey2502
      @theaeskey2502 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Still broken as fuck tho.

    • @pakeshde7518
      @pakeshde7518 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And?. Broken jank is jank no matter what. I mean seriously shows no playtesting anymore it is just *print or DIE* to save the company.

    • @darthkoo5000
      @darthkoo5000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@pakeshde7518 I guess you never played commander. Commander is broken jank city. This is very low power in commander

    • @Farmers-Almanac
      @Farmers-Almanac 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      5 mana for a tarmogoyf is almost not worth it

    • @pakeshde7518
      @pakeshde7518 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@darthkoo5000 I am trying, but a queen of the bears deck is laughed at so I am learning fast alas.

  • @SamuraiMotoko
    @SamuraiMotoko 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Was wondering what does Kindred ment. And then remember that wotc changed Tribal

    • @magic_claw
      @magic_claw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Better than “typal” lmao

    • @enricomassignani
      @enricomassignani 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@@magic_claw Tribal > kindred > typal imho

    • @dreamsalongthepath7377
      @dreamsalongthepath7377 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      bUt ItS rAcIalLy iNsEnsItiVe.
      I’m literally a Native American.
      And I literally don’t give a fuck. Tribal just makes more sense, wizards. Stop pandering. Thank you

    • @laurentrobitaille2204
      @laurentrobitaille2204 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Still a weird decision to change tribal to kindred because tribal was never an insult in the first place.

    • @WoodWisp
      @WoodWisp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@laurentrobitaille2204 it was probably just a publicity move. They know no one cares about it being called tribal, they just had to manufacture something to get Magic trending for whatever reason

  • @nicholasdismukes6741
    @nicholasdismukes6741 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Flare of denial is going in both merfolk and spirits. It's like tribal Christmas

    • @stigmurder99
      @stigmurder99 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey you can't say tribal now it's KiNdReD 😂😂😂

    • @FluffySpikeM
      @FluffySpikeM 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stigmurder99 We'll still call it tribal, because screw busybodies.

    • @stigmurder99
      @stigmurder99 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FluffySpikeM I don't even play anymore because the game got fucking ruined but I still call it tribal 😆

  • @sdoren_9074
    @sdoren_9074 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Now we can all use our tarmogoyfs as tokens

  • @MBL22
    @MBL22 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Triggers start "when," "whenever," or "at."
    Replacement effects start with "if."

    • @dreamsalongthepath7377
      @dreamsalongthepath7377 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No, “if” is triggered. “Would,” or “if you would,” are examples of replacement effects.

    • @mawillix2018
      @mawillix2018 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dreamsalongthepath7377 "Skip" and "Regenerate" are replacement effects. Most replacement effects have "as" or "instead" in their text.
      "When", "Whenever" or "At" are at the beginning of every triggered ability I can find. Some triggered ability may have a self-replacement effect and could therefore use "instead".

    • @johnbibb2471
      @johnbibb2471 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dreamsalongthepath7377 603.1. Triggered abilities have a trigger condition and an effect. They are written as “[When/Whenever/At] [trigger condition or event], [effect]. [Instructions (if any).]”
      No “If” as an option. If tends to be used in replacement effects (though the word to look for there is “instead”)

    • @maggiek8616
      @maggiek8616 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@dreamsalongthepath7377If is absolutely a replacement effect. Just look at Leyline of the Void, Lich's Mirror, Ugin's Nexus

    • @Mishra1984
      @Mishra1984 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dreamsalongthepath7377 "If" is NEVER denoting a trigger. Triggered abilities start exclusively with "When/Whenever/At".

  • @smack80
    @smack80 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The UU1 cost of merfolk of the seas is relevant, because Blood Moon/Magus is often cast from an ancient tomb or city of traitors with a simion spirit guide on turn 1

    • @enricomassignani
      @enricomassignani 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      1UU is generally harder to splash than 2R

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also Master of Waves, I guess.

  • @SimKill
    @SimKill 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Necrodominance is legendary so Jodah the unifier can cascade into it and Sisay can search for it

    • @alexscott8799
      @alexscott8799 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Also stops mono B devotion from having a billion of them

    • @lightworker2956
      @lightworker2956 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe it's just to make it "feel cooler" to some people? Necropotence is "legendary" in the sense that it's so famous.

    • @christopherlundgren1700
      @christopherlundgren1700 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kill it with Bounty Agent?

  • @williamhayduk6865
    @williamhayduk6865 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Ill still call it tribal

  • @gyorgyor7765
    @gyorgyor7765 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I hate that they are adding this set to Arena, its going to wreck every format other then Alchemy and Standard.

    • @john81blaze
      @john81blaze 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Disagree strongly

    • @ELDevaux
      @ELDevaux 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      These wont be explorer legal.

    • @untitledphysicist3205
      @untitledphysicist3205 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      You can ruin alchemy because it’s already a garbage format.

    • @Obscuredinsight
      @Obscuredinsight 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Alchemy already ruined mtg arena lol

    • @jeremysmith4789
      @jeremysmith4789 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have a horrible secret. I like occasionally playing alchemy. My Boar deck is S tier and that brings me joy.

  • @Achievement_Slayer
    @Achievement_Slayer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Power creep is an understatement

    • @stigmurder99
      @stigmurder99 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's just YuGiOh now 😂

  • @erikwilliams1562
    @erikwilliams1562 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Players: "Voja is broken as hell!!"
    Modern Horizons 3: "Hold my mana"

  • @ralphthegnome
    @ralphthegnome 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Legendary can play off anything that works on/with "Historic" cards and things like Captain Sisay that will let you tutor for a Legendary card, or Delighted Halfling/Plaza of Heroes to help in the mana fixing to cast, You have Gandalf that would let you cast it as if it had flash, Kaya's Ult Emblem, Cicle of Loyalty to create knight tokens, Kenright's funeral reduced generic mana cost of legendary spells... Cabal Paladin will shock each opponent.
    I don't see it as an attempt to limit, since yeah, no need for multiples, just adds additional options for other card abilities etc.

  • @Ratstail91
    @Ratstail91 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wait... that eldrazi art doesnt match the existing titans?

  • @mjshaft
    @mjshaft 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fixing Necropotence... nice work. That'll be fine. Never been an issue before.
    Unrelated: how much MH3 do they have to sell before they ban cards?

  • @DamienLavizzo
    @DamienLavizzo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Maro's Edict 2UU
    Legendary Instant
    Choose one or more -
    - You win the game
    - Choose any number of opponents. Those opponents lose the game.
    - Choose any number of opponents in another game of Magic: The Gathering. Each of those opponents loses the game.
    - Each player shuffles their hand, graveyhard and all permements they control into their library. Then, starting with the player to your left, they give their library to you. You own them now. You just, like, own them."

    • @Cephalopopo
      @Cephalopopo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sounds good but 4 mana for these effects is kind of too weak. I think it should have mega-evoque 1U [exile a blue card from your hand and return it in your next game of magic back to your hand] on it so we can ban some harmless bystander cards to keep it around for a bit longer to pump the sales.

  • @herrvonhagen4139
    @herrvonhagen4139 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the goyf nest is gonna be a real problem in commander, because you are not allowed to interact with other players lands

    • @lightworker2956
      @lightworker2956 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It'll be pretty good, but I think there's far more broken stuff you can do in commander. So then it's just another one of those "don't play decks so powerful that other people aren't having fun" type of effects.
      After all, it's six mana for the first Tarmogoyf (not worth), nine mana for 2 Goys (meh), 12 mana for 3 Goys (reasonable) and 15 mana for 4 Goys (okay now it's starting to get good). But 15 mana and 4 turns is quite an investment. Not saying it's bad, I'm just saying there's far more broken stuff you can do.
      One way to answer it is to just do something better and outpower it. A Goyf per turn is good, but not unbeatable. This isn't 17 years ago, when Tarmogoyf was first released and was really good. Nowadays, big creatures with no special abilities aren't that spectacular anymore.

  • @ghuruzilla
    @ghuruzilla 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's crazy they stuck with Kindred, especially since Native Americans said it was demoralizing. A single person, who is likely 5% native, changed Tribal to Kindred. Flippin' wild.

  • @qubingjianshen8210
    @qubingjianshen8210 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    25:34 Regarding Necrodominance being legendary, it seems like a draw back for black devotion.
    Currently in timeless you sometimes cast multiple Necropotence just to get more devotion.
    Now i don't think it would be too strong for it to be non-legendary, but necropotence being non-legendary is definatly a small upside.
    It timeless, this is essentially your 5-8 copies of necropotence.

  • @TheEvilProfessorMonoCulture
    @TheEvilProfessorMonoCulture 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is Goyf Nest really any different from those white and blue cards that produce X/X Construct Tokens?

  • @helhal
    @helhal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How necrodominance and reliquary tower works in terms of max hand size?

    • @jacobbest398
      @jacobbest398 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Per WOTC, "If multiple effects modify your hand size, apply them in timestamp order. For example, if you put Null Profusion (an enchantment that says your maximum hand size is two) onto the battlefield and then put Reliquary Tower onto the battlefield, you'll have no maximum hand size. However, if those permanents enter the battlefield in the opposite order, your maximum hand size would be two."

  • @BeaglzRok1
    @BeaglzRok1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Volatile Stormdrake is really pushing the boundaries of what isn't a functional reprint of a Reserved List card.

    • @subzero308
      @subzero308 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who cares reprint everything on the reversed list... It shouldn't exist in the first place.

  • @punkypinko2965
    @punkypinko2965 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So a tribal enchantment would count as two card types when creating a Tarmogoyf?

    • @admiralcasperr
      @admiralcasperr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes. That's why Modern Jund used to play Tarfire over sometimes bolt.

    • @punkypinko2965
      @punkypinko2965 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@admiralcasperr Man that's crazy.

  • @handsonthewater5913
    @handsonthewater5913 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Call me stubborn, but I'm still calling it Tribal.
    Nobody was actually ever offended by the term, and trying to change it is just hollow virtue-signaling.

  • @Kagebushin01
    @Kagebushin01 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Artifacts are colorless as well so artifact decks will benefit from the Eldrazi enchantment too

  • @bencheevers6693
    @bencheevers6693 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only thing I can think of legendary is assuming you'll have multiple in your deck and instant speed removal will cause a skipped draw step and no payoff having multiple out would be a shield against removal on that last turn of a close game where you're going to dig for counters or removal

    • @joshuahowell4785
      @joshuahowell4785 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm wondering if it's to prevent getting two separate triggers. Imagine Sheoldred with 2 of these. Pay all but one life, draw that many, gain double. Then pay all but one again, draw that many, gain double again. With enough life, you can essentially pick the best 5 card in your deck and almost quadruple your life.

    • @bencheevers6693
      @bencheevers6693 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joshuahowell4785 I didn't even think about multiple instances of the effect, you're right in the case of sheoldred you could do something silly like that

  • @aflyingstarly5535
    @aflyingstarly5535 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sisay the weather light captain can fetch this card out of the deck and their are cards that reward you for playing legendaries.

  • @scrumpy8192
    @scrumpy8192 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Volatile storm drake looks like it was a bounce spell, they traditionally feature drakes.

  • @hardusdippenaar9557
    @hardusdippenaar9557 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What deck is the tarmagoyf land in?

  • @tinkerermelon6599
    @tinkerermelon6599 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pearl-Ear is fascinating to me since it looks like the first card that deals w/ modified PERMANENTS (rather than just creatures).
    The best way will probably still focus around using Auras on your creatures, but I absolutely wanna make a fun build slapping Auras on lands/artifacts.

  • @sithkhan
    @sithkhan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's the maximum number of card types in MtG?

  • @millenium1109
    @millenium1109 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Razorfield Rhino is straight from the Mirrodin block. They had Razorfield creatures and the floor was covered in those hexagonal metal plates. It hit me right in the feels 'cause I loved that block and I was rooting for the Mirrodins who eventually got overrun and subsumed by the Phyrexians.

  • @victorvaldez8869
    @victorvaldez8869 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thief Of Existence seems to be a play on Naturalize, but it throws in Planeswalkers too. I'm trying to think of any other Non-Land, Non-Creature permanents this will effect, but they can always put more in.

    • @zsewqaspider
      @zsewqaspider 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It could also snipe a battle, some of those have some pretty usefull backsides

  • @colonelschwartz3578
    @colonelschwartz3578 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So does that mean echoes and zhulodok basically give you 4 cascades each 7cmc cast???

  • @tcsmagicbox
    @tcsmagicbox 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It's suspected that there will be many cards in MH3 actually designed for commander and not Modern.

    • @capealio
      @capealio 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's crappy

    • @erikwilliams1562
      @erikwilliams1562 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's every set

  • @energy-turtle
    @energy-turtle 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best channel when theres a good leak ! Thanks man

  • @Megadoomer125
    @Megadoomer125 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Echos Of Eternity looks like hands and body parts coming out of Bismuth crystals

  • @CptnHowdy2475
    @CptnHowdy2475 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Flare of denial will be the new protection spell of choice for Thassa's Oracle. Play it then sac it to for the counter since the ability is already on the stack.

  • @rulushe85
    @rulushe85 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like how they are bringing the energy back because when it came out it didnt have a big impact until fallout

  • @Strike-w6k
    @Strike-w6k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nulldrifter's 7 manacost is what it makes it pop. Lots of Eldrazi permanents care about 7 mana cost casting. And you still do cast a 7cmc if you evoke it.

  • @crselj
    @crselj 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That Necrodominance is gonna be mine af 🔥🧟‍♂

  • @AkromaStrategy
    @AkromaStrategy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    [[Thief of Existence]], is like a [[Thought-Knot Seer]] but for the board.

  • @jeremysmith4789
    @jeremysmith4789 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When i expend my lifeforce it makes little water-like droplets everywhere too.

  • @earlgammad8846
    @earlgammad8846 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Necrodominence , I think it's kroxa in the picture right?

  • @enricomassignani
    @enricomassignani 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jist to be sure: is Kindred a replacement of Tribal or a completetly new type?
    If I have a Tribal Sorcery and a Kindred Instant in my grave, how big is the Tarmo?

    • @TheMagicHistorian
      @TheMagicHistorian  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Replacement. kindred = tribal.

  • @Garl_Vinland
    @Garl_Vinland 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “If we print enough ‘you win’ cards, people will forgive our other problems!”
    Who the fuck listened to the guy saying Tarmogoyf was trash??

  • @boosternoob
    @boosternoob 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Necrodominance is broken with Sheldred

  • @whydoesthisexistpod
    @whydoesthisexistpod 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m somewhat confused at how to build the vampire demon. Is it angel tribal with vampire lords or just go all in vampire and ignore the angel thing altogether? Or is this just aristocrats?

    • @rowankeltizar5961
      @rowankeltizar5961 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its for Kaalia imo, especially a deck that focuses on etbs and death triggers

    • @whydoesthisexistpod
      @whydoesthisexistpod 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rowankeltizar5961 thanks. The more I look at it the more I go “it’s in the 99”

  • @Timmy_tweaked
    @Timmy_tweaked 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    17:07 you cant play that in a colorless deck

    • @RaceBandit
      @RaceBandit 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good catch. The Evoke makes its color identity Blue.

    • @Timmy_tweaked
      @Timmy_tweaked 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RaceBandit thanks I learned a lot about color identity bc my main deck is a super powered up zhuladok precon

  • @paulbonilla1250
    @paulbonilla1250 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will Harbinger work against Deserts?

  • @NathanBullock-w9n
    @NathanBullock-w9n 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love me some power creep. They need a 2 green. 6/6 with haste and trample💯

  • @metalvisionsongcontest7055
    @metalvisionsongcontest7055 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay, I appreciate the flavour on Harbinger of the Seas - or, as it’s undoubtedly going to be called eventually, “Flood Moon” 😊.

    • @ODIRGO
      @ODIRGO 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Blue moon

    • @metalvisionsongcontest7055
      @metalvisionsongcontest7055 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ODIRGO No, Blue Moon is a separate card game of its own. 😉

  • @Vidzette
    @Vidzette 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's up with that set symbol tho?

  • @Tyranix97
    @Tyranix97 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonder if you can play Necro with Library of Leng now.

  • @the_devils_jester
    @the_devils_jester 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just created a new format. It's called oEDH (o for old) and it's basically EDH except that you can only play cards printed before 2024.

  • @unB10
    @unB10 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only reason I can think of for necrodominance being legendary is for cards like sisay weatherlight captain who has abilities that let you grab legendary permanents.

  • @EvanYoungMusic
    @EvanYoungMusic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    New creature for the chair, deck!

  • @GhostlyGhost333
    @GhostlyGhost333 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m a fan of horror. Eldlich horror as well. I’m loving the artwork for these new Eldrazi. If the commander deck wasn’t so expensive, I’d definitely buy it.

  • @Telpherion
    @Telpherion 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cloning my Gilded Drake is one of my fav situations in edh, the protection is fine for lil Stormdrake 👌🏾

  • @marcoottina654
    @marcoottina654 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:00 that Drak is WAY underpriced. It should cost 4 mana, UUU at least. Unrestricted creatre removal AND getting 4 energy by the cost of giving a 3/2 flyer and "1U" ? It's way too little
    21:35 same, should have costed 4-5 mana, not 3
    It's insane to balance
    "It costs a card" ... Well, EVERYTHING is a card! It's not an argument!

  • @Cy8erTron1x
    @Cy8erTron1x 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't like that the Tarmogoyf nest says "Its a 1G..." Like what is that, first we're just entering now this?

    • @coriandyr
      @coriandyr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The token has a converted mana cost of 1G that's all it was trying to say. It is important to mention for cards that care about cmc as most tokens have a cmc 0 but tokens of actual cards like copy tokens typically have cmc equal to the original card

  • @decisionparalysis7856
    @decisionparalysis7856 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is so crazy to think about now, but in the day I wanted a playset of Tarmogoyf so bad, but could never afford them, never got them. Today I just don't need them, still love the card though.

  • @hisdudeness724
    @hisdudeness724 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only reason i can imagine making necro-po a legendary enchantment is for sisay players to tutor up a necro now.

  • @savedroknapp1926
    @savedroknapp1926 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    11:38 Lands don't count - they are not considered to be spells.

    • @RaceBandit
      @RaceBandit 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had to reread the card after seeing this; didn't notice the first time that Echoes refers to spells in its first effect instead of permanents.

  • @MiltiadesSpyrou
    @MiltiadesSpyrou 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    sire of famine is a demon that turns creatures into vampires whereas Aclazots is a vampire that turns vampires into demons (technically it is his preist that does that but still)

  • @MisanthropicCurmudgeon
    @MisanthropicCurmudgeon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I understand that indignation sells and everyone wants to complain... But if you think the nest card is going to be broken, then you have clearly never played modern. That card ends up costing you six mana over two turns for one Goyf. It's a slower clock than literally one Murktide.

    • @lightworker2956
      @lightworker2956 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed, I couldn't believe my eyes at first, but when you actually think about it the card doesn't seem to be broken.
      Sure, if this was released back when Tarmogoyf was dominant, this card would have been unbelievable. But there's been so much powercreep that a Goyf factory probably isn't overpowered.

    • @MisanthropicCurmudgeon
      @MisanthropicCurmudgeon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lightworker2956 yeah, just way too slow. Could be an application somewhere, but unless someone can break it, it's pretty mid if used in a fair way

  • @DarkLordDrakara666
    @DarkLordDrakara666 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Echoes of eternity is either the rabbit from polymorph or the pink morophon

  • @kyleshewmaker3000
    @kyleshewmaker3000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    one of the commander decks is Lhurgoyf based

  • @bedwablackburn
    @bedwablackburn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stormdrake blink with aetherworks marvel? Seems kinda bonkers

  • @jornbrodthagen8607
    @jornbrodthagen8607 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Plagiarize wouldn't do anything about Necrodominance, because the amount of life is chosen when the ability resolves, not when it is put on the stack.

  • @MrBreakmind
    @MrBreakmind 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    25:25 it's because of Gary

  • @coryguidry8040
    @coryguidry8040 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Counterspells singlehandedly competing w the rest of the entirety of MTG cards with "screw casting cost" abilities. Other ignore casting cost abilities typically required a few pieces or number of counters or cards to do, or an original payment from another card.. Why are counterspells just simply free at the most minimal costs they could think of?.. I guess now they're just missing "sacrifice an artifact" to ignore costs, and we're there.

  • @Beckola44
    @Beckola44 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Players are going to need some Enchantment destruction. These are some pretty good cards, especially Flare of Denial. The only problem is this will be an expensive set. Thunder Junction has not been out that long and BloomBurrow will be here before you know it. Even if you want to pick up a couple of boxes from each set, it will run you a nice chunk of change. If you only buy singles, there will be too many to get. Thank you for the video Magic Historian.

  • @thegamingnerd274
    @thegamingnerd274 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "If" is not the start of a triggered ability

  • @WolxVal
    @WolxVal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Aura card could be good when making alot of Blood forges axes

  • @Strike-w6k
    @Strike-w6k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i'm so damn hyped for the Eldrazi

  • @rylanchampion5972
    @rylanchampion5972 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it just me or does it feel like harbinger of the seas and Tisha as tide binder artwork should have been switched

  • @hatertime
    @hatertime 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Blue did unironically need more cheap counterspells. They could have 200+ free counters, it's their only way to interact

  • @NorthBayCryo
    @NorthBayCryo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I could see a pre-emptive ban on Necrodominance in commander

    • @enricomassignani
      @enricomassignani 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is it stronger than Necropotence?

    • @tonysmith9905
      @tonysmith9905 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@enricomassignani Nope it's not.

    • @NorthBayCryo
      @NorthBayCryo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@enricomassignani Subjectivly it could be, i guess it would depend on the build.

    • @christopherlundgren1700
      @christopherlundgren1700 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NorthBayCryo The only potential benefit I could see over Necropotence is that it actually "draws" cards. In every other respect it's basically the same or worse. No way this is banned, let alone "pre-emptively" banned.

  • @NateTmi
    @NateTmi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that is counter spell for one blue, because u know people will only play that in decks that play 1/1 for 1 blue

  • @TheDarkElder
    @TheDarkElder 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I guess many of the Eldrazi and 'goyf cards are from the "let's slap Commander sets onto this Modern set" side product. But still, why is Necro legendary? My best guess: To trigger cards that care about legends, either "historic" or Mox Amber style.

  • @Kylora2112
    @Kylora2112 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yugioh players: "Oh, welcome to our 2012 power levels." I mean, for the longest time, Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning was considered the strongest single card that could be legal. It spent 6 years at forbidden (not allowed in your deck) and was never higher than limited (could only run 1) in its lifespan from 2004 to 2017. It is now off the F/L entirely and it hasn't seen competitive play since 2015.

  • @MysteriousSoulreaper
    @MysteriousSoulreaper 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Tarmagoyf cards look to be from one of the Commander decks, so that means they won't be legal in Modern. Makes sense because they wouldn't want to put Myriad on a Modern legal creature. Myriad is only useful in multiplayer formats.

  • @SamuraiMotoko
    @SamuraiMotoko 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Alwats funny seeing how we live in a world were 5 mana 6/6 fliers with a wall of text are mid low power bulk

    • @enricomassignani
      @enricomassignani 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Doom Whisperer has been around since late 2018

  • @Mrtfarrugia
    @Mrtfarrugia 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We need some flavour text from Hans on those lhurgoyf cards.

  • @shaunadams2026
    @shaunadams2026 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6th color … when’d you add that?!?!?!

    • @RaceBandit
      @RaceBandit 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I noticed it several videos ago... might've been there the whole time I've been subscribed, actually. I didn't really commit it to memory.

  • @NateTmi
    @NateTmi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Legendary means u can't have 2 out at the same time. Even if there is no benefit when having 2 vs just 1 there is still the benefit that 1 removal is needed for each copy if someone plans to blow it up. The benefit to having 2 of any card is now it is harder to remove the effect of that card. Well there is some removal that will target all cards with the same name, most removal is one target. So Letting u have 2 on the board would make me need 2 spells if I want to remove it unless I play that hard to find spell that targets both. Yet by making it Legendary we never get this benefit unless we break the Legendary rule...

  • @The_medicine_frog
    @The_medicine_frog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll bet the first one is called "Trigoyf".

  • @Kingnothing7x
    @Kingnothing7x 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I guess tribal card types were a triggering ability
    Lmao
    Hasbro is getting weird

  • @Justjoey17
    @Justjoey17 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The red force of will art is the best card art in all of magic. A blue mage that knows he must master his body, not only his mind

    • @rowankeltizar5961
      @rowankeltizar5961 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which card are you talking about?

  • @celticjordan1
    @celticjordan1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where’s the new slivers wizards!!!!???

  • @DeadMasterMusic
    @DeadMasterMusic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So what your saying is the nest with earthcraft I can get infinite amount of creatures that are big boys gotcha

  • @helmkekitsune813
    @helmkekitsune813 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally a kitsune that doesn't suck. Also, bringing Necro back. I feel like an ill-fated bowl of petunias. "Oh, no. Not again..."